General Debate 15 September 2011

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Ender

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September 15, 2011 8:06am
Elaycee

Buckle up – the placard wavers have a new ’cause’ to target….

So called ‘heritage fighters’ have been rocked by a court’s order to pay for a property owner’s defence of a proposed apartment development. The Environment Court says it is fair and reasonable for Devonport Heritage Inc and the Masonic Friendly Society to each pay $22,350 to Redback Develop. The Historic Places Trust, a party in the appeal case, must pay $14,900. The total award is a quarter of the $238,571 Redback sought to cover some legal and expert witness costs.

In a reserved decision, Judge Craig Thompson said one of the three court members, commissioner Heather McConachy, wanted no costs ordered. But all court members agreed with Redback’s complaint about tactics of deliberate delay and obfuscation.

Watch this space…. this could be fun.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=10751830
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September 15, 2011 8:13am
Don the Kiwi

Greece – going, going, gone?
The Euro in freefall?
The EU about to crack up?
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September 15, 2011 8:26am
Falafulu Fisi

Embedded in a pair of shoes, circuits composed of a train of conductive droplets can generate a few watts of power—enough to charge a cell phone during a casual stroll.

A microfluidics path to harvesting mechanical energy
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September 15, 2011 8:43am
Monty

Stupid Labour. Bowing to the pressure of their union masters and promising to get rid of National Standards should they be elected.

So when they lose the election, do they take the hint that the country supports NS, does not want CGT, doesn’t care about GST off Fruit and Veg, and understands that $15per hour minimum wage is only going to make unemployment worse?

Stuipid Labout – doing everything to ensure they dont get elected in 2011
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September 15, 2011 8:52am
Scott Chris

Scarlett Johansson Nude Photo Leak:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/5628185/Scarlett-Johansson-nude-photo-leak

Pretty tame really. Nice ass though. Think she might have leaked them accidently-on-purpose?

Gentlemen need not leer:

http://deadfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/enhanced-buzz-13840-1316001575-12-500×375.jpg
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September 15, 2011 8:59am
KiwiGreg

@ Elaycee note the Sandra Coney on our behalf elcted not to try and recover any ratepayers money from these folk.
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September 15, 2011 9:07am
Scott Chris

Nelson Aquarium Burns Down:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5628158/Fire-destroys-Nelson-aquarium

WTF?
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September 15, 2011 9:24am
Manolo

A citizen speaks: http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10751907&ref=rss
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September 15, 2011 9:27am
Scott Chris

Death Wish Man Who Killed 3 Remanded:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5628281/Road-death-wish-man-remanded

Give him his wish.
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September 15, 2011 9:28am
Rick Rowling

the national road policing manager, told Radio New Zealand the increase was due to the introduction of digital cameras, better deployment of resources and reducing speed tolerance during holiday periods.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5628148/Speed-camera-tickets-nearly-double

Nothing like putting on a 4km/hr tolerance and siting the camera at the bottom of a small dip in the road, eh?

Before the 4km/hr tolerance was introduced, I thought people with radar detectors were arrogant S.O.B.’s who flaunted the law and risked our safety.

Now it’s nearly a prerequisite for cruising at anywhere between 90 & 100 (given speedo tolerance & speed at which the driver or cruise control can adjust for changes in gradient).
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September 15, 2011 9:29am
Manolo

Unpalatable to some, but the Messiah’s undeniable past cannot be erased: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/even_republicans_rejected_info_about_obamas_past.html
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September 15, 2011 9:35am
jcuk

I seem to remember that once upon a time the presence of speed cameras was advertised to introduce them and make the idea acceptable. If they are hidden it is obviously revenue gathering but clearly warned is road safety. Not a member of the AA but support their call today for the trial and universal adoption of warning about the presence of speed cameras …. it is not a game as the police stress but road safety we are talking about.
Must say I am glad I have a vehicle which doesn’t encourage me to do more than the speed limit, open road or around town. I’d also be interested in knowing the proportion of the fines broken down to speed limit breaks … 100, 70, 50km etc.
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September 15, 2011 9:44am
gazzmaniac

I’ve just challenged Don Brash (on Facebook) to visit Australia to tell expat kiwis why they should vote for him.
I extend that challenge to all politicians and vote hungry parasites –
Come to Australia and tell us a) why should we even vote at all, and b) why should we vote for you and c) what are you going to do differently to encourage us to come back?
Ex-pat kiwis in Australia must be a large voting bloc that can’t be ignored, but traditionally have been (although I seem to remember Mallard came over here a few years ago before the 2005 election).
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September 15, 2011 9:46am
jcuk

This site is getting dreadfully slow these days …must be all the junk that helps David pay for running the site.
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September 15, 2011 9:46am
KiwiGreg

@ gazzmaniac I’m buggered if I know why our system even allows people who choose not to live in NZ have a vote at all.
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September 15, 2011 9:49am
gazzmaniac

jcuk – they have signs for speed cameras in NSW. They are billboard sized and have the speed limit posted on them. There have to be three before a fixed speed camera. You would think you would have to be pretty stupid to get caught by one, however somehow people still do. QLD has 10 fixed cameras and four of them are in one tunnel, and all of them are on motorways in the SE corner.
Mobile speed cameras are a lot less common in both QLD and NSW (and are in clearly marked cars unlike the scum in unmarked vans every 10km along SH1 on a public holiday in NZ) and they must have a portable sign 50m up the road. But I think I might have seen a dozen of them in four years.
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September 15, 2011 9:50am
gazzmaniac

KiwiGreg – I still pay tax in New Zealand, every time I visit and buy something. I also have strong family (and friends) connections and am usually visiting 3 or more times a year. The country means a good deal to me, and it is getting wrecked from within. Yes I would choose to move back, but it has to be worth my while.
As to why should I get a vote even though I live abroad? I challenge you to tell me why I shouldn’t. I’m a New Zealand citizen and it is my right to choose how the country of my birth and where the majority of my family live is run.
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September 15, 2011 9:55am
KiwiGreg

/Shrug Every tourist could say the same thing but we dont let them vote.

How do you work out what electorate you vote in? Maybe I should know this but I always assumed there was a 3 month residency requirement.
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September 15, 2011 10:01am
Pete George

c) what are you going to do differently to encourage us to come back?

What do you want done differently? Do you have realistic ideas on what should be done?

More of the right sort of jobs would help to get some to return. All three of my kids are overseas. One daughter qualified here and then went to Europe, had a great OE, quickly paid off her student loan, got married and now the family wants to return – a brain gain if a suitable position for her husband becomes available.
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September 15, 2011 10:28am
Mick Mac

Rick Rowling (326) Says:
September 15th, 2011 at 9:29 am

Got done twice this year on a downhill.
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September 15, 2011 10:35am
Mick Mac

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/un-allows-qaddafi-associates-attend-durban-iii_593543.html&reason=0

Yet another reason the UN should be dismantled.
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September 15, 2011 10:37am
Murray

Lot of accidents in that dip Mick, or was it pure revenue gathering?
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September 15, 2011 10:48am
gazzmaniac

KiwiGreg – you vote in the electorate of the dwelling that you last lived in for a month or more. Not that it matters since the only vote that matters is the party vote.
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September 15, 2011 11:05am
Murray

Not that it matters at all if you vote labour gazz.
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September 15, 2011 11:07am
gazzmaniac

Lucky I don’t vote Labour then isn’t it?
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September 15, 2011 11:13am
Murray

Good fortune or good management?
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September 15, 2011 11:17am
F E Smith

Via Guido Fawkes

Palestine, soon to be a new, if unofficial, State, wants to hang a big sign on its window saying "No Jews Allowed".

Hmm, Luc will surely approve.
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September 15, 2011 11:20am
mikenmild

F E Smith

I’m not sure theat USA Today is the most reliable news source. Even then, the quote from the ambassador was:
“After the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated.”
Not quite the same as the headline, or your comment.
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September 15, 2011 11:54am
Manolo

How absurd. Now it is all a matter of love, of course. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.73fa2bce50221a12ab98013337927324.411&show_article=1
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September 15, 2011 12:04pm
Lance

@mikenmild
So you saying it would be a bloody good thing if Israel expelled all the Arabs living there because they are Arabs?
Or does that only apply to the other way… looks a like stinking hypocrisy to me.
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September 15, 2011 12:19pm
F E Smith

That is one view, mm, but I see that comment as being follow up, an explanation for the view pointed out in the headline. Notwithstanding you attempt to downplay the comment, it still means no jews allowed in the state of Palestine.

And re the USA Today comment, I have to disagree. Every time I have gone to the States it is absolutely everywhere. Indeed, it is generally the biggest selling newspaper in the US. Your comment seems to be simply an attempt to minimise the source, and therefore the story.
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September 15, 2011 12:30pm
Lee01

“I’m not sure theat USA Today is the most reliable news source.”

Its fairly liberal, but its a helluva lot more reliable than John Pilger.

In your opinion what is a “reliable” source?
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September 15, 2011 12:35pm
Lee01

“Your comment seems to be simply an attempt to minimise the source, and therefore the story.”

Its his standard tactic. When presented with information he does not like he attacks the source rather than deal with the substance, and then he soft-soaps the substance to make left wing and Jew-hating nutters sound more reasonable. The next momet he’ll be trotting out a far left nutjob like Pilger or Chomsky as “reliable” sources.

Hypocrisy doesn’t even begin to describe it. He and Luc are the biggest hypocritical and self-serving debate-framers posting here.
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September 15, 2011 12:38pm
David Garrett

Back to speed cameras…and radar guns for that matter…

As practised in NZ presently it is naked revenue gathering and nothing to do with road safety. In the village near where I live, the favourite spot is not outside the school, or even outside the pub, which is inside the village limits…No, its on the outskirts of the village proper, about 50 m from the 100 K sign, where there is only one house up a long drive and the local garage (garage, not gas station). They do a roaring trade whenever they are there.

Howard Broad once virtually admitted in Select Committee that amalgamating the real police with the traffic cops was a mistake…only to “corect himself” in a press release the next day.
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September 15, 2011 12:56pm
Graeme Edgeler

Happy Anniversay, Mr Garrett!
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September 15, 2011 1:02pm
grumpyoldhori

No wonder Palin is so bloody wide eyed, heh, being bonked by a black 6′ 9″ NBA player.
That is her fucked with all her thick white old hard working bible bashers, could not happen to a better cow.

http://rt.com/usa/news/sarah-palin-basketball-rice-595/
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September 15, 2011 1:02pm
F E Smith

David G, Agree with you completely re traffic policing practices. Also, have a look at the moves the new NSW government have made to require the transit authority to justify their speed cameras on the basis of road safety. Seems a lot of them are going to be shut down.
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September 15, 2011 1:07pm
kiwisimplexity

Dutch politician comes with personal manifest
He is idolized in the Netherlands, well-known in Europe and even America has been introduced to his views about the danger the Islam poses.
http://kiwisimplexity.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/dutch-politician-comes-with-personal-manifest/

Blog: http://kiwisimplexity.wordpress.com
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September 15, 2011 1:14pm
Elaycee

kiwisimplexity (19) Says: September 15th, 2011 at 1:14 pm… Yada yada yada

Why do you use Kiwiblog to try and promote your own blog? Are you really Phil Ure? Link whoring was his tactic and he’s not here now…..
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September 15, 2011 1:20pm
cabbage

The Police have an operation like that in Shannon David G. Been done at that spot myself.

Also, despite all my complaints, not ONCE in 4 years did the police ever set up an operation outside my old property. Our stretch of road (50km/h) was seperated by a Bridge over the tracks to the south and a 35 degree left hander to the north (50km/h) about 100m north of this it became a 80km/h zone.

South bound trucks at night were by far the worst offenders here, the’yd round the corner @ 90 and nearly mount the curb/Take out my fence/cars/garage/power/etc We couldnt park on the street because at night, those spaces would be filled a B-Train that could not slow down, let alone stop. I’m amazed that my property survived during my time there.

I’m not so amazed the police were so apathetic.

A few k’s to the south is a long, straightdual carriageway with opposing lanes seperated by a solid median barrier, Where there is frequently a mobile speed camera tucked in behind a bush to nab unsuspecting northbound drivers.
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September 15, 2011 1:31pm
Rodders

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5629828/Sue-Bradford-to-stand-against-Paula-Bennett
Willie Jackson says he won’t be a Mana parliamentary candidate as staff at the Manakau Urban Maori Authority had asked him not to stand “because they didn’t want to lose him.”

A perfect song for Jackson – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07_2DWfEmQ
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September 15, 2011 2:21pm
backster

Well a somewhat different reaction from Race Relations Commissioner DeBres than his kindly tolerance of the Racist MUTU from Auckland University.http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10751983
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September 15, 2011 2:26pm
redeye

From the Herald Sun in Melbourne

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard was stopped from getting on a bus with other foreign leaders at a Pacific Islands forum in New Zealand – and told by the driver to get on the bus for spouses instead.

New Zealand’s Internal Affairs department revealed the incident happened at the Auckland forum last week and Ms Gillard was offered an apology as soon as officials found out, stuff.co.nz reports.

The driver was immediately told of the mix-up and Ms Gillard was allowed on the leaders’ bus, shuttling dignitaries from a hotel to the waterfront, a department spokesman said.

The driver was not used again during the forum.

Ms Gillard was not offended by the incident, according to an aide cited by TVNZ.

It was not the only mix-up during the forum. At the opening ceremony, the MC told leaders’ spouses to “come up and meet your husbands”.

Ms Gillard was heard joking with her partner Tim Mathieson about the slight and put her arm around him as they left.

The gaffes are perhaps even more surprising considering the predecessor to New Zealand’s current Prime Minister John Key was Helen Clark, who held the position for almost nine years.

Some wit commented:
“Poor driver. Hard to keep up with who the Prime Minister of Australia the moment because Labor Party tends to change them fairly reguarly.”
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September 15, 2011 2:26pm
Lee01

“No wonder Palin is so bloody wide eyed, heh, being bonked by a black 6′ 9″ NBA player.
That is her fucked with all her thick white old hard working bible bashers, could not happen to a better cow.”

What a nasty little person you are. Does your wife beat you? Or did your mother? I only ask because cowards who attack and spew hate and vile abuse at women from behind the safety of their computers are usually compensating for something.
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September 15, 2011 2:33pm
Scott Chris

I have no problem with ‘revenue gathering’ speed cameras.

Solution is in your hands.

Don’t speed.

This Message Brought To By The Holier Than Thou.
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September 15, 2011 2:46pm
Lee01

I never speed. I’m always going as fast as I need to.
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September 15, 2011 2:47pm
Pete George

When the old lady was pulled up for speeding she told the officer:
“I have to speed so I get there before I forget where I’m going”.
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September 15, 2011 2:50pm
Scott Chris

DG – “nothing to do with road safety”

So if people didn’t speed, there wouldn’t be fewer deaths?

If one habitually obeys the speed limit, then it becomes a learned behaviour. That is the reason for speed traps. Attempted behaviour modification. Handy to pick up a few bucks to pay for the monitoring too.

edit: If people feel the need to raise the speed limits, then lobby your local rep.
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September 15, 2011 2:51pm
Johnboy

I think you have hit it on the head with Grumpy Lee.

He is a nasty little inadequate tosser who actually accused me of beating up my wife.

I thought at the time that he was probably living out some fantasy where he got back at his missus for hen pecking him.

ps: The poor wee fellow has a fantasy involving Turkish bayonets also! 🙂
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September 15, 2011 2:56pm
RightNow

An elderly man was stopped by the police in the early hours of the morning and is asked where he was going at that time of night.

The man replied “I am going to a lecture about alcohol abuse and the effects it has on the human body.”

The police said “Really? Who is giving that lecture at this time of night?”

The man replied “My wife.”
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September 15, 2011 3:23pm
Nookin

This is now getting interesting. Too many people have been putting the boot in to the police and crown prosecutors knowing that they cannot respond. Maybe Messrs Minto and Locke can give us a dissertation on their reasons for supporting the sort of behaviour with which our esteemed compatriots are now charged.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5632182/More-Urewera-details-emerge
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September 15, 2011 4:26pm
plebe

RWC SIGH, folks wait another 4 years,then another 4 years, our pissant TOSSER blacks are all throwing the towel into the ring,all injured and hurt,WHIMPS your countries calling overpaid tossers.
They have all broken their finger nails and have wee pains around their butt holes, why having the latest tough bro tat done around their pathetic arse holes.Fucken whimpy overpaid under achievers against REAL opposition. FUCK ANOTHER 12 YEARS MAYBE more, richie the stunch captin a shave rashed him, pretty boy carter,his girl friend had a flower show she wanted them to attend on the day,every day and the rest had the pacific island church to attend all the time every day and the few maoris had a iwi treaty claim to attend to constantly.Maybe some big SOUTH AFRICANS, a few AUSTRALIANS and POMS and ASIANS might be a bit tougher, as new imirgrants, lets sweep out the overpaid whimps and import REAL rugby players like AUSTRALIA
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September 15, 2011 5:22pm
Nookin

Plebe
Is there something that you wanted to say but were struggling with the words?
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September 15, 2011 5:26pm
plebe

YER Nookin
another 4 years wait, these pathetic tossers,upset me
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September 15, 2011 5:31pm
Griff

Nice christian lad
A man has been found guilty of killing three people in a horrific crash near Christchurch last year.Redeemed is a born-again Christian and has the words “Praise God” tattooed on his throat.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/worthy-redeemed-guilty-crash-killings-4403415
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September 15, 2011 5:41pm
wreck1080

The last labour government spent crap loads of money on various campaigns to reduce obesity (see the pathetic push play thing) . Of course, they are also now completely non-accountable for results.

So, what were the results?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10752005

“New Zealand’s obesity rate surges

New Zealand’s obesity rate increased surged ahead in the 12 years to 2009, a major nutrition report released todady by the Ministry of Health shows.”

I predicted obesity campaigns would backfire.

The Population obesity level will keep rising for around another 20 years — at which time I believe a maximum obesity point will be reached- this is based on my feeling that we are now saturated in fast food joints – people being born now will add to obesity levels until they grow into adults by which point in time everyone who tend to get fat in this environment will be fat .

The main differences between when I was young , and now, are the huge number of fast food outlets, TV is now 24 hours a day and we also have sky , and cheap gaming consoles.

If these things were banned and/or limited by the government I reckon the obesity rate would drop. But, fat and weak willed people would rather be obese than lose these things to the nanny state.
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September 15, 2011 5:44pm
Scott Chris

Urewera 4 Accused Of Planning Murder Kidnapping Arson

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5632182/More-Urewera-details-emerge

“…..the objectives of the group were one or more of: murder, arson, intentional damage, endangering transport, wounding with intent, aggravated wounding, discharging a firearm, using a firearm against a law enforcement officer, or kidnapping.”

The plot thickens.
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September 15, 2011 6:28pm
nasska

A bloke sitting at a bar at Sydney Airport noticed a really beautiful woman sitting next to him.
He thought to himself: ‘Wow, she’s so gorgeous she must be an off duty flight attendant.
But which airline does she work for?’
Hoping to make her acquaintance, he leaned towards her and uttered the Delta slogan: ‘Love to fly and it shows?’
She gave him a blank, confused stare and he immediately thought to himself: Damn, she doesn’t work for Delta.’
A moment later, another slogan popped into his head.
He leaned towards her again ‘A great way to fly?’
She gave him the same confused look.
He mentally kicked himself, and scratched Singapore Airlines off the list.
Next he tried the Thai Airways slogan: ‘Smooth as Silk?.’
This time the woman turned on him, ‘What the f##k do you want?’
The man smiled, then slumped back in his chair, and said,
‘Ahhhhh, Jetstar…..
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September 15, 2011 7:00pm
Hurf Durf

DumbOldFuckwit, you joined the Turkish Army yet? You’ll be in for a hell of a surprise when you’re deployed to stamp out a Kurdish village.

Even then, the quote from the ambassador was:
“After the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated.”

Palestine: APARTHEID STATE!!!111!1

I assume we’ll see the BDS movement extended to include them as well, surely? Yes?
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September 15, 2011 7:39pm
nasska

An elderly man lay dying in his bed. While suffering the agonies of impending death, he suddenly smelled the aroma of his favourite Anzac bickies wafting up the stairs.
He gathered his remaining strength, and lifted himself from the bed. Leaning on the wall, he slowly made his way out of the bedroom, and with even greater effort, gripping the railing with both hands, he crawled downstairs. With laboured breath, he leaned against the door-frame, gazing into the kitchen. Were it not for death’s agony, he would have thought himself already in heaven, for there, spread out upon waxed paper on the kitchen table were literally hundreds of his favourite Anzac bickies!
Was it heaven? Or was it one final act of love from his devoted Aussie wife of sixty years, seeing to it that he left this world a happy man?
Mustering one great final effort, he threw himself towards the table, landing on his knees in rumpled posture. His aged and withered hand trembled towards a biscuit at the edge of the table, when it was suddenly smacked by his wife with a spatula……..
“F%*# off” she said, “they’re for the funeral.”
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September 15, 2011 8:00pm
Griff

Chris Rock:

I hope that Live Earth ends global warming the same way Live Aid ended world poverty.

Robin Williams:

Clean coal is a bit like wearing a porous condom – at least the intention was there.

Alan Carr:

You know who they’re blaming for global warming now, don’t ya? Single people. Because we’re in our house all on our on own using all that energy for ourselves. Sorry, everyone. Sorry, for being minging. I suppose they’ll want to attach a wind turbine to my wanking arm.

Larry David:

We [bald men] don’t spend all our time shampooing and rinsing our hair. It’s one of the many selfless acts we bald men perform every day to make our world a better place. The bald also don’t have use for plastic combs, or no hair dryers either so that’s gotta save on electricity. Come on. We have got to go bald – all of us. Walking around with a full head of hair is like driving an SUV or dumping toxic sludge into a river. It’s irresponsible. Hey, you hair people, shame on you!

Marcus Brigstocke:

So how many of you have low-energy light bulbs at home? Oh? So you’re all like me, when you go in a room you spend the first few minutes in the dark, wondering what room you’re in, then apologising ‘cos you’ve pissed all over the duvet.

Jay Leno:

Nasa just released their new report on global warming or, as President Bush, calls it – Spring.

Bill Maher:

If it solved global warming, would you give up the TV remote and go back to carting your fat ass over to the television set every time you wanted to change the channel. If that was the case in America, I think Americans would watch one channel forever.
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September 15, 2011 8:14pm
nasska

Two friends talking.
John, would you like to participate in group sex?”
“Who’s involved?”
“Me, you, and your wife.”
“NO!”
“Fine. Then I’ll take your name off the list.”
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September 15, 2011 8:28pm
Griff

A Few Handy Phrases for Traveling in the Middle East

AKBAR KHALI-KILI HAFTIR LOFTAN.= Thank you for showing me your marvelous gun.

FEKR GABUL CARDAN DAVAT RAEH GUSH DIVAR.= I am delighted to accept your kind invitation to lie down on the floor with my arms above my head and my legs apart.

SHOMAEH FIKR TAMOMEH GEH GOFTEK BANDE.= I agree with everything you have ever said or thought in your life.

AUTO ARRAREGH DVATEMAN MAMO SEPAHEH-HAST.= It is exceptionally kind of you to allow me to travel in the trunk of your car.

FASHAL-EH TUPEHMAN NA DEGAT MANO GOFTAM CHEESHAYEH MOHEMA RAJEBEH KESHAVAREHMAN.= If you will do me the kindness of not harming my genital appendages I will gladly reciprocate by betraying my country in public.
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September 15, 2011 8:40pm
Viking2

Traffic Police.
HMM.Appropriate time to say something.
Yesterday I came to end of our private toll road, (it belongs to the ratepayers of Tauranga), to see a man, obviously busy going about his work, pulled up by a cop in a mufti car, lights flashing as they do. He appeared to be giving the fellow a ticket.

Now here’s some issues that give me the shits about this.
One its a private road and built for the rapid transit from one end of Tauranga to the other. We pay for the privilege of
1. owning the fucking $50 million bill that paid for it.
2. The use each time of the road.

Question why the fuck are the police annoying us on our private road?

Question two. Why are these hopeless law enforcers that are paid so much as a salary simply posing as tax collectors. Well paid, expensive gear, expensive training and the best they can do with all that money spent on them is cop people for going too fast. Waste of my taxpayers money.

I have just had a rental house trashed. Trashed by a tenant who reputedly now has a $10k bill with the local Mongrel Mob for smack and shit. Do I see these same fucking tax collectors doing anything at all other than fuck all to close these shit heads down. Do they police the streets where they frequent, do they fuck. Home in bed asleep while the town is covered in graffiti by these Mongrels.
Ask them to do something a bit hard and they can’t won’t don’t.
BUT
Here is the irony.

A non violent person going about his/her lawful business goes 5kph over the speed limit. That person gets pinged, fined, held up from their work by soft cock police. The irony is that that person assists with paying the tax that pays the salary of that soft cock policeman.
A violent thug selling crack and shit, pays no tax, more than likely exists on the back of dole payments etc, is generally unlawful, drives straight on past with no repercussions cause he doesn’t care and anyway he is not afraid of the police anymore. They are frightened of him. Yep true.

Called a symbiotic relationship. Either which way the cop wins, the taxpayer loses.

Every Tax payer should have Get out of Jail cards. The rest go without.

Case 2.
Young man,given community service. OK so does his time as required all fine you would think. Hell no, he didn’t realise that once he finished his time that he needed to return once more to :clock out”. Apparently the system doesn’t just accept the reported time as completed.

Some weeks later pulled up by a cop as young fellows regularly are every day. Just cause they look young( and I saw this right in front of me in the last week cause there was no other reason. This cop actually made the road situation dangerous but that’s another issue.)
Hullo we have an outstanding warrant for your arrest. Really what for. Come with us. Down at the station the next morning after night in the clink.
It seems that because he didn’t clock out of the useless fucking system the dumb fucks at corrections that do these things issued a warrant for his arrest even though he had completed all his hours. No phone call to come and fix the problem (ah that would require initiative, ) no email to his email, (ah that would require someone to write a quick email),nothing, nada, zilch. Not even a txt.

So was required to turn up at court where he was given more time to serve.

We wonder why justice, corrections et al are such an expensive tax sucking monster.
That young man, who actually didn’t do much in the first place), lost three days pay, his employer lost three days productivity, the Justice system wasted God knows how much money because no one in there has enough brain power or the system is so automatically stuffed that it is unable to even send out a reminder txt , automated phone call or email to someone.

So the Govt didn’t collect tax on three days income and will likely collect even less now cause the cash economy will be attractive.
The country lost three days of productivity as did his employer.
The Courts wasted Lord knows how much on fucking stupidity
The Justice Dept. clearly is totally unproductive and incapable of any sort of people management.
The police, well what can you say, caught in a system that’s plainly bloody stupid because they could not look at the warrant, see the issue and let the fellow go so he could put the issue of signing off right.

So what does this young man think of adults and their systems? Given he is a systems programmer, not that much.
Given he is a taxpayer and plenty of it what does he think of taxpayer paid for systems. What can you say.

Now I know that plenty of the systems customers are trash and don’t respond but don’t forget that even innocent people are caught up in this behavoir, everyday.
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September 15, 2011 8:54pm
Brian Harmer

I seem to recall that for the purposes of the Land Transport Act (1998) a road is defined as “any place to which the public have access, whether or not as of right” so who notionally owns the road doesn’t get you off the hook.
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September 15, 2011 10:04pm
Viking2

In 2003, then Opposition police spokesman Tony Ryall questioned the merit of hidden cameras and lowering the speed tolerance level from 10km/h to 5km/h over the limit,

Yesterday he said his 2003 criticisms were about the way the cameras were being used. Asked if it was a case of saying one thing in opposition and another in government, he said “no, certainly not.”

– Additional reporting: APNZ
By Andrew Koubaridis and Claire Trevett | Email Andrew

So Tony Ryall is now into telling lies.
Do these people have no shame?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10752126
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September 16, 2011 6:36am
Viking2

As is Judith the NON Crusher Collins.
In 2009, the figure was 329,838; last year, it was 627,000.

Police minister Judith Collins put the increase down to the new cameras – which National condemned as a revenue-raising exercise when it was in Opposition.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10752126
She rejected a suggestion that warning signs be installed near speed cameras, saying drivers would slow down in that area then speed up again.

She said the new digital cameras did not break down as often as the old “wet film” cameras, and took clearer images of cars.

Do they suddenly get a disease against the truth when they get into power?
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September 16, 2011 6:39am
jcuk

You do not have to be a speedster to support labling of speed cameras. My single ticket so far for speeding was some fifty seven years ago. I have no sympathy for people who get caught and think it is a game but neither do I think hidden cameras are right and proper. The police emphasise it is not a game yet they behave like tricksters.
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September 16, 2011 6:59am
Rodders

V2 – here is another one to brighten your morning
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10752126
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