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starboard

d’oh !
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August 18, 2011 8:01am
Griff

I am getting a t shirt with

I survived the Auckland earth quake and blizzard of 2011
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August 18, 2011 8:04am
Lance

And the award for the most hypocritical remark of the decade goes to …. (drum roll) LABOUR

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10745785

After the fake eviction notices before an election ploy, Labour are complaining about scare-mongering aimed at a specific group.

Bra ha ha ha ha
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August 18, 2011 8:12am
starboard

“New flashmob craze in the states…20 or 30 people turn up at a business eg dairy , supermarket , clothes shop etc and rob it blind..just saw a bit of it on the news…every single person involved was black”

This needs discussion. The cctv viewing does not lie…same with the English riots. Why are they so violent and ungrateful?
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August 18, 2011 8:15am
Brian Smaller

@Lance. So, according to labour Brash is not allowed to speculate who would form a government with Labour? What utter wankers.
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August 18, 2011 8:16am
Inventory2

Another beat-up from Annette King; she didn’t read the whole of Paula Bennett’s letter, obviously:

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/08/another-beat-up.html

And Labour is the last party who should be criticising flip-flops; sold any assets lately Phil or Annette?
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August 18, 2011 8:18am
Murray

I can sell you one that says: I used to be an Aucklander… but I’m better now! Griff.
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August 18, 2011 8:24am
Griff

will you swap for my
I used to be from chch but I never warmed to the place
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August 18, 2011 8:26am
Murray

Hey the government are supplying some very nice temporary accomadation now Griff. You can’t go past a good igloo!
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August 18, 2011 8:34am
Scott Chris

Footprints In Oamaru Snow Lead To Icecream Thieves:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5450873/Footprints-in-snow-lead-to-icecream-thieves

Adds new meaning to “cold case”
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August 18, 2011 8:34am
Longknives

Starboard- I am amazed that the PC left-leaning media even showed that piece….bearing in mind the ethnicity of the perpetrators..
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August 18, 2011 8:35am
hj

“The Act Party posted a newsletter in Chinese script on popular online site skykiwi.com last weekend in which Dr Brash, the party leader, warned voters that Winston Peters and Hone Harawira could be forming the Government if they did not vote Act.

Mr Peters is an outspoken critic of New Zealand’s immigration policies and many in the Chinese community perceive him as “anti-immigrant” and “anti-Asian”.
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“Chinese economy we all know about…
Chinese government says it’s time to grow offshore…..
Let’s take a good selection of New Zealands “products” [and] over….
“We’re all New Zealanders, we all love the country so I think it’s healthy for us to have the debate and make the right decisions for our country…. but hey!…. young people coming through see it as “our planet” rather than “our country”
http://static.radionz.net.nz/assets/audio_item/0011/2385074/mnr-20100824-0842-More_than_800-million_dollars_worth_of_property_on_display-m048.asx

Labours Third World Solution
Ireland’s economic miracle was driven by Germany. Under Labour, ours is being gifted by Communist China. The Germans sent money, the Chinese are sending people.
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/column.php?id=409

Government policies blamed for house prices
“Immigration and tax breaks for investment in residential property are being cited as the underlying causes of steep increases in the cost of housing over the past decade.

New Zealand now boasts one of the highest rates of home unaffordability in the world as a result of prices rising far faster than incomes, and the government’s Savings Working Group blames that squarely on the policies of successive governments.

Although “the favourable tax treatment of property investment” accounted for about 50% of house price increases between 2001 and 2007, the working group said, there was also strong evidence that rapid swings in immigration brought about price-rise “shocks”.

There was a sharp spike in immigration in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and, said working group committee member Dr Andrew Coleman, it appeared that property prices did not fall anywhere near as greatly when immigration fell again.

The report added that there was little evidence that immigration boosted local incomes. In fact, the need to build roads and schools meant that net migration contributed to the national deficit. “
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

“Obviously the developers couldn’t buy the local politicians and public officials off fast enough in Dallas Fort Worth to overcome the zoning impediment – but they have been trying as this article Fed Up: Texas Monthly November 2007 illustrates. It goes on pretty much everywhere of course – but only illustrates how zoning tends to assist in inflating prices and stalling supply responses.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0711/S00303.htm

Fast population growth over

the past decade has strained infrastructure, boosted house prices and reduced the

quality of life in the Auckland region.
http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/0705/RMA__Oram_Paper_May_2007.pdf

Property researcher Hugh Pavletich has good reason to feel pleased with his lobbying of political and industry players about housing affordability.
Only four years after his first annual Demographia survey many of the basic premises have now become an accepted part of the lexicon used by political leaders, property players and researchers.
http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=20225&cid=16&cname=Property

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Acts Philosophy: All looked over by machines of loving grace applies to population and climate change.

Lims warning: Beware property contains (buried) unearned capital gains.
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August 18, 2011 8:45am
starboard

Exactly. I mean shit , its there in black ( ‘cuse the pun ) and white..I saw several videos in different areas of town and different shops…ffs they were all black. My question is, what drives them to it? Is it in their genes or our they just outrite bad bastards.
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August 18, 2011 8:47am
Murray

hj own site, off you go.
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August 18, 2011 8:47am
hj

PS I once voted for Act thinking it stood foR : Association or Taxpayers (me) and Consumers (me) and was a way around the the narrow interests of political party aparaticks (or whatever you call them).
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August 18, 2011 8:49am
hj

A lot of people and businesses around the country struggling to pay for the unearned capital gains of richlisters (and other less well off beneficiaries of unearned capital gains). Case studies will astound you and are the reason rooves don’t get fixed and walls don’t get insulated.
National cares….. about landlords.
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August 18, 2011 8:53am
Sonny Blount

They’re quick off the mark.

Ed Schultz on MSNBC edits video to make Rick Perry appear racist:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/16/msnbcs_ed_schultz_selectively_edits_video_to_make_perry_look_racist.html

They have form on doing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwg-f3dqN4&feature=related
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August 18, 2011 8:55am
Griff

I used to vote act till Don told me I could “Bank” on it
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August 18, 2011 8:58am
hj

Murray (8,072) Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:47 am

hj own site, off you go.
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where is the conscience of the National Party Murray? i don’t mean the people who would sell their grandmother to the cat meat factory, I mean those who represent New Zealanders; not one class of well healed New Zealanders (like Harcourts agent quoted above).
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August 18, 2011 9:00am
Magenta

Here’s a Story: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5463665/Public-funding-spent-on-mates
How does this happen?
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August 18, 2011 9:04am
thedavincimode

starboard

“Why are they so violent and ungrateful? … My question is, what drives them to it?”

They have been abandoned by society starboard. They are the product of a failed capitalist society in which the rich grow richer and the poor feed off their crumbs if they are lucky. A society where out of season vegetables are too expensive and the marginalised and unemployed poor cannot afford the price of a fork and trowel to sow a vege garden. A society where Sky TV has nothing for them to watch and the price of petrol has gone through the roof, and yet they cannot afford to walk anywhere because of the additional wear and tear on their basketball trainers. Where they cannot afford caps with two peaks to protect both their necks and their faces from the sun. A socety that has not only spurned them, but actually discriminates against them because they forgot to learn anything at school. A society of such oppression it is akin to a yoke across their backs. A society that steals the sweat from their brows and the hope from their hearts.
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August 18, 2011 9:08am
Longknives

Sonny Blount- That is an absolute shocker. Will Obama supporters (supplicants?/cult members??) stop at nothing to discredit their opponents??
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August 18, 2011 9:11am
starboard

so what you are saying is that its my fault..dont buy it.
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August 18, 2011 9:17am
Griff

I don’t particularly like Brian Rudman. To often he puts his interests in front of society as a whole. How ever his piece on Maori fishery’s asks some interesting questions.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10745512
“As far as the $4 billion plus domestic fishing quota is concerned, Maori interests control around 37 per cent of it.
But instead of expanding the local fishing fleet, and creating new jobs onshore, the Maori quota owners are hiring ancient Asian and Ukrainian boats to do the fishing, and most of the processing is done overseas.”
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August 18, 2011 9:17am
tom hunter

Sonny

I actually like the following better because it demonstrates how stupidly predictable the US left are becoming. Just a couple of days ago a number of right-wing bloggers began to speculate when we would see the appearance, not only of the Fascist, Hitler, Extremist …. memes regarding Perry but the Perry Makes US Miss Bush contest.

As it happens it took just 24 hours from the time of the last prediction and the winner was CNN.
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August 18, 2011 9:22am
thedavincimode

“A lot of people and businesses around the country struggling to pay for the unearned capital gains of richlisters ”

hj

Sorry, who are we talking about here? The people that pay their own way and then a lot more that actually pays for this country to operate, or those that don’t? Including those getting WFF.

And would you just care to run those opportunity tax cost numbers on capital gains past us? Even the numbers provided by your sad-arse mates make it clear that CGT is not a a mega revenue earner. Its income tax and GST that pays the bills. Would it be fair to assume that you pay fuck all, if any?

So National cares about landlords. That’s why they canned depreciation deductions and LAQC regime. To benefit landlords right?

Nothing like sitting around with your finger up your nose and blaming someone else for your problems is there hj? Do you even understand the arguments around CGT, or is it just your genetically wired hatred of those who have more than you?
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August 18, 2011 9:24am
thedavincimode

Of course its your fault starboard. The contrary view would be just too inappropriate to contemplate.
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August 18, 2011 9:26am
tom hunter

I’m sure hj will have no problem in dealing with people who get rich on the unearned capital gains of horseflesh.
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August 18, 2011 9:28am
hj

“Nevertheless, because of its ‘racial and religious prejudice’ ~ I quote Chris Trotter again ~ ‘essentially, the entire Norwegian political class, aided by the news media, came together to mount an effective political boycott of the Progressive Party’.”
http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2011/08/david-round-tragic-lessons-from-norway.html
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I recall Mary Wilson on Radio NZ when Winston talked about a “tsunami of migrants”… saying “should we even be reporting it.

You would expect a “green ” Party to have an eye on immigration (unless it sees a disconnect between people and the environment). Alas Mr Locke (son of Jack Locke who was the perennial low polling communist Party candidate) says: “anti immigration sentiment has no place in the Green Party”

The Greens see no risks, despite the loss of quality of life etc all ready observed by Rod Oram (for example).
The Greens are the foxes minding the chickens.

“”We have no fear of migrants. The Green Party says ‘Welcome Home – this is your country now’. Our welcome extends to the families of new migrants. The Green Party policy is fundamentally humanitarian, not exclusionary like Mr Peters’.”
http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/greens-counter-peters-welcoming-immigration-policy
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August 18, 2011 9:31am
Griff

Magenta
Its because the lefty’s in the health sector confuse their jobs they seem to think that its all about racial equality not health. There are many more fails in the system due to a preoccupation with cultural safety these are Hidden because if you come out against this sort of thing you are labeled racist.
This infects so much of education and health thinking even science and Justice is being infected with this racist crap. There is very little information on the value of this sort of rubbish. Yet it continues to absorb money better spent elsewhere
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August 18, 2011 9:46am
hj

Nothing like sitting around with your finger up your nose and blaming someone else for your problems is there hj?
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I don’t think you can say that when people care about an issue they are necessarily: “sitting around with their finger up their nose and blaming someone else for their problems” … Could be a matter of empathy?
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Do you even understand the arguments around CGT, or is it just your genetically wired hatred of those who have more than you?
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What I understand is that asset inflation isn’t wealth creation; it simply creates a charge elsewhere in the economy. So the people (including landlords) who pay too much for a property don’t have funds available to improve their properties. Businesses in Queenstown struggle to pay their rentals (thereby lowering wages) to pay for the exhorbitant unearned capital gains of property investors.
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August 18, 2011 9:50am
slightlyrighty

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3753913/Sexy-pics-at-12-pregnant-at-15-and-her-proud-mums-delighted.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

Everything that is wrong with welfareism in one story.
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August 18, 2011 9:52am
backster

Texan Governor Perry has jumped to an 11% lead over 2nd placed Mick Romney..I wonder if this speech had any influence on the poll
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/5466016/Presidential-candidate-doesn-t-believe-in-global-warming
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August 18, 2011 10:02am
mikenmild

Perhaps Perry will add praying for a stable climate to his to-do list.
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August 18, 2011 10:06am
KiwiGreg

“They are the product of a failed capitalist society in which the rich grow richer and the poor feed off their crumbs if they are lucky. ”

What a load of horse shit. Capitalism has delivered unparralleled wealth to all levels of society. The “poor” in New Zealand are richer in so many ways than their historic contemporaries.
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August 18, 2011 10:13am
hj

“”I think we’re seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists that are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change,” the Texas governor said on the first stop of a two-day trip to the first-in-the-nation primary state. ”
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So what new information has come forth that rejects the AGW hypothesis? Provide links from reputable scientific journals only thanks (Nature, New Scientist, Science etc) not the fake lookalikes (such as Ann Raynd Institute).
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August 18, 2011 10:24am
tom hunter

Kiwigreg
I guess everybody has to learn that sarcasm does not often work on blogs.

Speaking of which:

Perhaps Perry will add praying for a stable climate to his to-do list.

Perhaps something like this?:

Heavenly Gaia
We beseech thee to hold back thy rising oceans
thy melting ice
and heated winds
We offer this ~~$6, $12, $50~~ $1000 per tonne carbon tax
to assuage thy anger
More shall we do
The crushing of SUV’s and other false idols
The smiting, impoverishment and banishment to hot regions
of those who do not believe
All this Gaia we offer up for you.
Stay your righteous fury
Amen
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August 18, 2011 10:27am
hj

Jon Huntsman, Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney – who all at one point supported steps to curb global warming pollution – have since tempered their stances. But unlike Perry*, both Romney and Huntsman acknowledge the scientific evidence.

*all looked over by machines of loving grace.
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August 18, 2011 10:30am
mikenmild

tom

That should be as effective as Perry’s other prayers. If he does make it though, will he be the first President to pack heat while in office?
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August 18, 2011 10:34am
hj

When people look back how will they see the AGW debate: perhaps like the church and Copernicus where the Church clung to an inconvenient truth? The AGW debate will be seen in a much more important light and may bring shame upon the family lineage of those who use the “not proven”; “only a theory” line.
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August 18, 2011 10:52am
tom hunter

That should be as effective as Perry’s other prayers
Glad you get the point.

If he does make it though, will he be the first President to pack heat while in office?

I can see it now, the Secret Service going down in a hail of gunfire, leaving only one man standing …. Air Force One: 2
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August 18, 2011 10:52am
mikenmild

Just makes the White House that much harder a target. Terrorists be warned.

Didn’t he already take out a coyote or something while jogging?
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August 18, 2011 10:56am
KiwiGreg

Yeah sorry Tom (and TDV mode). I should have read the whole thing before flying off the handle. Trying to multitask by working and reading didnt work so good.
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August 18, 2011 11:11am
Yvette

Abstinence campaign cancelled
Well, probably a good thing
As someone commented, on radio, otherwise the only way you could have got screwed was to buy an over-expensive Adidas jersey
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August 18, 2011 11:19am
hj

The Greens would deny this happens
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3753913/Sexy-pics-at-12-pregnant-at-15-and-her-proud-mums-delighted.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

Japan is considered more equal than Aotearoa but they don’t “pay people for having children” (they are bemused by our policies).

From Mind The Gaps Green Party>
“Greater equality would also help to strengthen whānau and family relationships, reducing the incidence of domestic violence and teen
pregnancy. There is strong evidence that more equal societies have fewer problems with drug and alcohol addiction, and overall better
levels of mental health. Other health measures would also improve, such as the incidence of obesity, heart disease, type-2 diabetes, and
smoking-related illnesses.”
http://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/Mind_the_Gap_2010.pdf
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August 18, 2011 11:21am
tom hunter

Kiwigreg
No need to apologise – I’ve tried the sarcasm gambit too: fails
most times in this medium.
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August 18, 2011 11:21am
hj

I think the Inequality and social ills relationship is misinterpreted. The basis of that good behaiviour is recognition of a social contract and that includes everyone at every station doing their bit and doesn’t include the professional breeder on the dpb.
Note the uniform of the people in Japan who clean the toilets and the pride they take in their work.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3753913/Sexy-pics-at-12-pregnant-at-15-and-her-proud-mums-delighted.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
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August 18, 2011 11:26am
redeye

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann offered a “happy birthday” message to the late singer Elvis Presley on Monday, even though August 16 is the anniversary of his death in 1977.

“Happy Birthday, Elvis!” Bachmann shouted from the stage at a campaign stop in the parking lot of The Beacon, a South Carolina drive-in restaurant famous for its fried food and sweet tea.

After her stump speech, the congresswoman from Minnesota told a group of reporters that she was happy to be in South Carolina “on the anniversary of Elvis Presley’s death.”

Another Palin by the sounds of it. Surely the US right must have a sheila with an IQ above her bra size somewhere.
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August 18, 2011 11:42am
Magenta

Griff

I think it’s probably political connections and/or a really poor tender process by the Department. I wonder if there was even a competitive process for the funding (I don’t have a problem with the money going to that cause, its how it was allocated to such a dodgy company/organisation)
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August 18, 2011 11:49am
Murray

Sorry I was too busy selling my grandmother for cat meat to answer.

Extemist rhetoric much?
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August 18, 2011 11:52am
joana

Starboard,
Are you sure you are allowed to say these things? Even the word ”riot” was being edited out of the Press comments section last week.
Did you read Mark Steyn’s artice? ”In Britain , everything is policed except crime.”
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August 18, 2011 12:00pm
KH

“The only way to get screwed with world cup rugby is to buy an Adidas jersey”
………Yvette at 11.19
I would say “I love it” but such talk allowed in this country with the cup imminent.
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August 18, 2011 12:00pm
joana

Starboard,
If you are interested , read , Winds of Jihad , UK: the riots are because the govt does ”f……….all” for children. And , Give a man a fish and he will riot for more free fish.
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August 18, 2011 12:21pm
hj

Economist Debate:
This house believes immigration is endangering European society:

http://www.economist.com/debate/days/view/732
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August 18, 2011 12:48pm
gravedodger

@ redeye 11 42 you may not like Bachman’s message but the relevance of the anniversary of the death of another drug addled pop star missed by one day is? not every one worshiped him you know.
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August 18, 2011 12:50pm
mikenmild

Are your sure he is dead though: “I saw Elvis Preseley walk out of a 7-11”
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August 18, 2011 1:00pm
kaya

Whoops, another bullet hole in the foot for the RWC people, turns out the cup that has been doing the rounds for people to get their picture taken with is a replica. The NZRU has released a statement saying “there are two trophies and but are of equal standing”. Pardon?????
So the one that did the rounds in NZ isn’t the real one but it’s the same as the real one so that makes it real???
Good grief, when are people going to dump the overpaid, PR spin doctors and try just telling the truth…….
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August 18, 2011 1:19pm
Longknives

Mikenmild-

http://www.elvis-is-alive.com/
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August 18, 2011 1:25pm
Lance

Ah
Death threats against Letterman for joking about a terrorist leader ‘getting what was coming’.

http://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/news/article/-/10062941/militant-makes-death-threat-against/

Seems to be a bit one sided where these murderous rantings come from.
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August 18, 2011 2:19pm
starboard

“Are you sure you are allowed to say these things”

I will say whatever I like. Its a sad day when the thought police etc ban me from speaking my mind. You may as well be dead. Get fucked to them and their pc crap I say.
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August 18, 2011 5:29pm
wreck1080

This world cup is turning into absolute crap.

First, the adidas ripoff.

Next, the Abstain campaign.

Now, we find a fake world cup has done the tour around NZ … hilarious listening to the spin today, how ‘both’ cups are equal stature….tosh!!! The original cup in 1906 is THE cup. The one made in 1986 is a copy.

Mind you , I wouldn’t trust the maori activists who would like to smash the cup , as they did with the americas cup a few years back.

Finally, where are the pre-world cup celebrations? The giveaways, competitions, shows, sword swallowers, fire dancers? The lead up has been soooo disappointing!!!
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August 18, 2011 6:19pm
mikenmild

Yes, the replica cup. I was tempted to have my photo taken with it and would have felt quite disappointed now if I had. What next, a cardboard cut-out of Richie McCaw to tour the country?

I am actually quite excited about the RWC, but we could do without bogus hype and trickery.
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August 18, 2011 6:30pm
starboard

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..RWC the most over hyped non event of all time. A big wankfest.
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August 18, 2011 6:55pm
Longknives

Wreck 1080- The Rugby World Cup is just one big fucking embarrassment…..But just wait until the Prima Donna “invincible” All Blacks get knocked out of the tournament- the howling and wailing and media-fuelled ‘conspiracy theories’ will go on for the next four years!! Christ I hope I can leave NZ soon….
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August 18, 2011 6:59pm
mikenmild

Ah starboard, where have you been? Out cruising the public toilets again?
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August 18, 2011 7:00pm
nasska

AGW EXPLAINED……

AUTUMN:

Climate change prediction:- Floods, devastation and death.

Actual weather:- Dry and miserable.

WINTER:

Climate change predictions:- Floods, devastation and death.

Actual weather: Icy and miserable.

SPRING:

Climate change predicition:- Floods, devastation and death.

Actual weather:- Dry and miserable.

SUMMER:

Climate change predictions:- Heatwave, blue sky and nice cool breeze.

Actual weather:- Floods, devastation and death.
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August 18, 2011 7:00pm
starboard

yeah milky I spotted ya boyfriend rodders lying in a cubical at macca’s..
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August 18, 2011 7:03pm
Viking2

wikiriwhis business (1,132) Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

This is the year of being ditched.

Abstinence ad gone

Sheep down Queen St gone

David Tua gone

Lairbour… soon to be gone

AB’s ??????

National gone?? you forgot to finish the list.
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August 18, 2011 7:08pm
Viking2

Now when cards were suggested on sunday all sorts of denials about further use gushed forth when some of us suggested that would be next,
But hullo, seems we were on the money once again.
Several months ago.
PAULA BENNETT: “Such oversight by the Crown would be highly intrusive and would rob individuals of their freedom of choice.

Monday
On Monday at his post Cabinet media conference, Prime Minister John Key suggested there was little interest in extending the payment card.

Today
Bennett won’t rule out extending benefit card
Last updated 09:05 18/08/2011
Social Development Minister Paula Bennett is refusing to rule out extending the Government’s newly proposed welfare payment card to adult beneficiaries.

Bennett has also denied flip-flopping on the payment cards which she described in a letter earlier this year as “highly intrusive”.

The National Party unveiled its youth welfare policy at its annual conference at the weekend which will give payment cards to about 2600 young beneficiaries to ensure their benefits are spent on essentials.

The cards will be given to 16 and 17-year-olds out of work and training and 18-year-olds on the domestic purposes benefit.

Who is running this war? This is about as inept as the Telecom abstinence thingy that got canceled today. Perhaps the Nats. should cancel this as well.
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August 18, 2011 7:14pm
Viking2

Oh dear,

New Zealanders are terrible at getting out of bed, according to ACC figures showing that each week 146 people injure themselves simply getting up in the morning.

As part of Safety Week, ACC today said that more than 7600 New Zealanders were last year injured falling out of bed.

“Falling out of bed may sound insignificant but 146 people are hurt every week as a result of these falls,” said ACC insurance and prevention services general manager Keith McLea.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10745855
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August 18, 2011 7:20pm
starboard

“As part of Safety Week, ACC today said that more than 7600 New Zealanders were last year injured falling out of bed”

Gawd..what next..” 100 people injured falling off the shithouse”…must make a safety video…tossers.
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August 18, 2011 7:25pm
mikenmild

ACC have just sent out some new posters with foolish messages about more people being injured cutting the hedge than fishing etc…
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August 18, 2011 7:29pm
nasska

A man, new in town, goes to the best brothel in the city. Choosing the best looking girl in the place, he retires to a large and well-appointed suite, where he has some of the best sex of his life. Satiated, the man asks the madam, “How much do I owe you?” The madam motions for him to put away his money. She then pulls two hundred dollars out of a purse and gives it to him. She fends off all his attempts for an explanation.
Naturally, the man returns the following evening. He gets the same treatment, and he is again given two hundred dollars.
The third night he does the same thing, but when he sees the madam, she asks him for three hundred dollars.
“Wait a minute,” he says. “The first night you gave me two hundred dollars. The second night you gave two hundred dollars. Now you want me to pay you three hundred? Why?”
The madam smiles and says, “Tonight you weren’t being filmed.”
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August 18, 2011 7:30pm
krazykiwi

nasska 7:00pm — 😀
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August 18, 2011 7:30pm
Steve

ACC comedian Keith McLea:
“An injury like this can seriously mess up your plans and we don’t want New Zealanders to miss playing for their team at the weekend or miss watching the rugby World Cup because they are laid up in a hospital bed with an injury.”

Good one Keith, some people are genuine.
Another name to add to the list of ACC iceholes
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August 18, 2011 7:30pm
starboard

God visits a man and tells him he must give up smoking, drinking and sex if he wants to make it into heaven…The man says he’ll try but cant guarantee it..God visits the man a week later to see how he’s getting on..”Not bad” says the guy, Ive given up smoking and drinking but when the wife bent over the lounge suite and I caught sight of her long slender legs, I couldnt help myself.. I pulled her skirt up , pulled her knickers to one side and f***** her hard and fast from behind”…” They dont like that in heaven ” replies God… The man says..” They’re not too fuckin happy about it in Harvey Normans either!”
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August 18, 2011 7:43pm
nasska

A blonde and her boyfriend were setting at home one night and became bored. “Hey, let’s play a game” she said.
“What game?” was his bored reply.
“Let’s play hide’n’seek. I’ll give you a blow-job if you can find me.”
“What if I can’t find you?”
“I’ll be behind the piano.”
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August 18, 2011 8:00pm
Elaycee

As a direct result of the actions of morons protesting at Max Brenners outlets in Melbourne, a colleague and I went to one of their outlets today for (what turned out to be) an extended meeting.

I’ve posted more about it under ‘Where is the line on boycotts’ (see link below).

But I can definitely recommend this place – whilst no protesters were to be seen, the food and drinks were superb!

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/08/where_is_the_line_on_boycotts.html#comment-866263
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August 18, 2011 8:09pm
Viking2

I am sure this is right. All the voter research I’ve ever done shows National voters are much more class conscious. To express it in an extreme form: National voters would rather be poor but better off than their neighbour, than rich but no richer than their neighbour. That’s why New Zealand is a low income country with vast inequality. It’s what we keep voting for.

Oh how so true.

do people vote against their interest because they prefer to keep ahead of their neighbour than make everyone better off?

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/54938/opinion-john-pagani-asks-do-people-vote-against-their-interest-because-they-prefer-kee
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August 18, 2011 8:16pm
Griff

St Peter’s stood at the gates of heaven and it’s about that time of the day when all the people entering have to have died tragic deaths. The first bloke steps up and when asked to tell his story he says:
‘I came home early from work and my wife was wearing a silky black neglige and there were two glasses of champagne on the coffee table in our flat. I then saw that there was a bloke hanging over the balcony and so I naturally lost my temper, went out there and started hammering his fingers until he eventually let go and fell 17 floors to the ground. Some bushes broke his fall though and he was still alive, so I saw red and went and grabbed the refridgerator from inside and dropped it on his head, killing him. Unfortunately the effort of carrying the refridgerator caused me to have a heart attack and die.’
St Peter says ‘Ok, that’s a tragic death, in you go.’ Second bloke steps up and says:
‘I was pruning my hardy perenials out on the balcony of my 18th floor flat when suddenly I tripped and fell off. Luckily I managed to catch hold of the 17th floor balcony and was about to climb in when suddenly this guy came out and started hammering on my fingers causing me to let go. Some shrubbery broke my fall by a million to one chance and just as I thought I was safe, I was cut off in the prime of my life by a falling fridge!’
St Peters says ‘That’s one of the most unfortunate tales i’ve ever heard, you can enter the kingdom of heaven.’ Next bloke steps up and says:
‘you’re never going to believe this, but I was hiding stark naked in a fridge when suddenly….’
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August 18, 2011 8:20pm
Steve

Opinion – Pagani – Shit
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August 18, 2011 8:20pm
Viking2

Hon John Boscawen: I seek leave of the House to ask a question of the honourable Leader of the Opposition.

Mr SPEAKER: I guess it is possible for members to ask questions of members. Leave of the House is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection?

Hon Member: No.

Mr SPEAKER: I trust it is in order, but let me just check with the Clerk to make sure there is no Standing Order against that. Normally a question to a member is to do with the member’s responsibilities, but leave has been granted to the member.

Hon John Boscawen: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Leader of the Opposition: given that he is so concerned about youth unemployment, what responsibility do he and his colleagues take for the dramatic rise in youth unemployment after youth rates were cancelled, making it illegal for a young person to take a job at less than $13 an hour?

Hon Phil Goff: It is just as well that the question was asked of the Leader of the Opposition, because the Prime Minister does not give answers. [Interruption]

Mr SPEAKER: Order! Now, I ask members why it was difficult to see me on my feet. There was absolutely no reason to give an answer like that at all, given the question was asked of the Leader of the Opposition. Actually, I should point out that things have changed a bit since the Leader of the Opposition was last a Minister.

Hon PHIL GOFF: The answer is that at the time that Labour left office, youth unemployment was a third of the level that it is now. It was at that level because a Labour Government actually invested in skill training for people. A Labour Government created 350,000 new jobs, and a Labour Government reduced the number of people on unemployment benefits to 17,000, and that is a track record I am really proud of. The Prime Minister would do better to halve that.
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August 18, 2011 8:23pm
Steve

‘Thanks Griff’ says Steve with beer coming out his nose!
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August 18, 2011 8:24pm
Viking2

Steve (1,738) Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

Opinion – Pagani – Shit

Had you read the article you would see that it was not his opinion but someone else’s research.
Research which IMHO is entirely accurate and is demonstrated daily by the likes of yourself. Flat broke broken arsed National trollop.
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August 18, 2011 8:26pm
Steve

Viking,
Pagani sucks all Liarbores arses and you know it. The guy is a trembling mess that needs his mum
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August 18, 2011 8:34pm
Griff

The red cross have just knocked at our door and ask if we could help towards the floods in aussie I said we would love to, but our hose only reaches the bottom of the garden.
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August 18, 2011 8:34pm
nasska

An eccentric billionaire wanted a mural painted on his library wall,
so he called in an artist. The man explained to the artist, “I’m a
history buff, and I’d like your interpretation of the last thing that went
through Custer’s mind before he died. I’m going out of town on
business for a week, and when I return I expect to see it completed.”

A week later, the man returned from his trip and entered the library
to examine the finished work. To his surprise, he found a painting of a
cow with a halo overhead. Surrounding this were hundreds of Indians in
various sexual positions.

The furious man called the artist in. “What the hell is this!” he
screamed.

“It’s exactly what you asked for,” said the smug artist.
“No! I didn’t ask for a mural of pornographic filth. I asked for an
interpretation of Custer’s last thoughts!”

“And there you have it,” explained the artist. “I call it, ‘Holy cow,
look at all those fucking Indians.'”
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August 18, 2011 8:34pm
Steve

A blonde decides to give back to society. She finally decides to paint an old man’s home for free. “So, what do I paint?” she asks the old man.

“The porch,” he laughs like there’s an inside joke. “Ok!” she says excitedly. The old man walks in his house and his wife looks upset at him.

“Did you tell her the porch goes all around the house?” she asks. The man shook his head.

“Hey!” the blonde calls, in half hour, “I’m done, and I even had paint left over so I put a second coat.” she explains.

The happy man waves as the blonde leaves. “And by the way,” the blonde says, “That’s not a porsche, that’s a ferrari.”
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August 18, 2011 8:45pm
nasska

A girl came home from a date. Her mother had waited up for her, and when the girl walked in the door, the mother noticed she had rice in her hair.
“Sally,” she said, “you didn’t tell me you were going to a wedding.”
“I didn’t mom,” Sally replied. “I was giving a blowjob to a Chinese guy and he threw up on me.”
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August 18, 2011 8:57pm
bhudson

What would it say of a die-hard ACT supporter that they would cozy up to Labour’s rants in an attempt to leech votes from National to bolster their party up to and beyond 2%?
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August 18, 2011 9:02pm
adze

One for the math geeks (definitely not me):

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/9065434289/1/tumblr_lpd6kuZ5K71qb5gkj
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August 18, 2011 9:47pm
wikiriwhis business

I knew Michael Jones wouldn’t go mainstream .
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August 18, 2011 9:51pm
Viking2

Be careful who you play games with or who you employ in top positions. (pun intended).

A blindfolded sex adventure with a mystery “woman” ended in shock for a young Wellington man – who removed his mask to find a tall man.

Charged with sexual violation under the name Dean Alehana Tefono, he was better known as Dean Alexander Stebbing, a young Ngati Tuwharetoa leader who died last week in Taupo. He was reported to have had a heart attack.

Although still in his 30s, Stebbing had already held influential iwi positions and at the time of his death he worked for Contact Energy with the title Kaawai Rautaki (Strategic Partnerships). He was the first person to have the position and had been appointed last August to help the company build partnerships with iwi. He had previously been chief executive of Ngati Tuwharetoa Fisheries Charitable Trust.
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