General Debate 27 July 2011

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DavidC

Morning!
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July 27, 2011 8:02am
nasska

Since ACT’s recent couple of policy releases they have gone to ground & have constantly refused requests for interviews. Fortunately we were able to bribe one of the cleaners at the Brian Edwards Home for the Old & Perpetually Bewildered where the latest monthly meeting was held. The following notes have been taken from a tape recorder hidden in a bed pan in the day room.

An apology was received from John Banks who had a prior meeting with National Party strategist Murray McCully. Dementia had taken its toll & no one could find the minutes of the previous meeting held in June. Most couldn’t remember the meeting either but all agreed that it must have happened & voted to approve them anyway.

It was considered that a major publicity campaign was necessary. Polling had indicated that the electorate was not impressed with revelations about Bob Clarkson’s left testicle despite the media training it had received so it was decided to run with Plan B. To this effect Dr Brash had made a list of previous affairs & love children & these would be leaked gradually during the lead up to the election. As a bonus the manufacturers of Viagra had promised a substantial donation to party funds.

Medical tests were to be undergone to pick members least affected by incontinence to act as media spokespeople.

Still to be finalised were a set of principles. A suggestion from the floor to approach NZ First & seek to borrow or purchase their unused 2005 manifesto was passed.

At this point the nurses wheeled in the meds trolley & the meeting was adjourned for another month.

To be continued……..
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July 27, 2011 8:03am
ciaron

Glorious sunrise in Christchurch!
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July 27, 2011 8:03am
DavidC

Pi**ing down in Palmy but its hard not smile looking at the latests poll results!
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July 27, 2011 8:15am
Inventory2

Quite so DavidC. Note too that this is the first poll that was wholly conducted AFTER Labour released its tax package. What happened to the “game-breaker” Phil?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/07/very-significant-poll.html

The message from this poll is clear; no-one cares what Labour says. In their present form, they are electorally toxic.
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July 27, 2011 8:17am
Scott Chris

Smoking whilst taking a dump can be harmful to your health. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/5337182/Man-seriously-burned-in-toilet-explosion
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July 27, 2011 8:30am
Pete George

Since the Noregian tragedy much has been said about right wing violence. There can be quite a bit of violent and abusive language on this blog – but violence in New Zealand politics and New Zealand society is not just a right wing problem.

Our political and social revile – we should do something about it.
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July 27, 2011 8:38am
Scott Chris

Wainuiomata High School first to recognize the danger of exploding toilets.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/5344333/Wainuiomata-High-School-set-on-toilet-cameras
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July 27, 2011 8:49am
wreck1080

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10741041

The currency is now at levels where the Reserve Bank has in the past intervened and sold kiwi dollars to drag down its value.

The reserve bank are dreaming if they believe they can do anything. In saying that, the last time the RB intervened I believe they made a lot of cash. Perhaps this is a good reason to intervene 🙂
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July 27, 2011 8:49am
Murray

Davidc lies, its actually quite pleasent in Palmy after early mornign showers.
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July 27, 2011 8:51am
Longknives

Exploding toilets are a major point of concern for me..
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July 27, 2011 8:51am
Murray

I’m just suprised Phil Goff hasn’t released his game changing explody toilets policy yet.
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July 27, 2011 8:55am
103PapPap

Some words of advice to Christchurch people – never eat yellow snow.
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July 27, 2011 8:56am
Sonny Blount

Extreme blogs and extreme comments on blogs are far more prevalent in right wing forums, there’s no doubt about that. This includes proposals of violence, some of it extreme violence, and also abusive and intimidating language. When it occurs it should be confronted and questioned – this is not trying to shut down free speech as some people claim, those who confront violence speech have as much right to speak as the abusers.

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The left don’t use obvious violence anywhere near as much

You are totally ignorant Pete.

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
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July 27, 2011 9:04am
Scott Chris

wreck1080 (1,693) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 8:49 am

“The reserve bank are dreaming if they believe they can do anything. In saying that, the last time the RB intervened I believe they made a lot of cash. Perhaps this is a good reason to intervene”

If you were a betting man, you might expect to see a bounce in the $USD after a last minute deal to avoid avoid a US debt default. So maybe the the RB should sell the Kiwi and buy the Greenback. Could make a killing.
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July 27, 2011 9:07am
Right of way is Way of Right

Why on earth are people staring myopically at the NZ dollar and beleiving it’s strong. It’s other currencies weakening. The US Debt Crisis, the Euro being hamstrung by Greece and Portugal, it’s all relative. It may well be that the dollar is finding it’s correct level, and any attempt to artifically manage this may only be damaging in the long run!
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July 27, 2011 9:13am
Pete George

Ok Sonny, I’ll qualify – in my experience on right and left blogs in New Zealand the level of violence and abuse, and the acceptance of it, is more prevalent on right wing forums.

The left weasel their way out of responsibility for many thinmgs, the right shouldn’t weasel their way out of responsibility for violent communication.
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July 27, 2011 9:17am
slightlyrighty

Pete.

It’s been my experience that violence and abuse on political blogs is more likely to be seen on right wing blogs, because left wing blogs are more likely to moderate it out of existence and pretend it never happened.
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July 27, 2011 9:20am
Pete George

Good point slightlyrighty, their moderation can be far from moderate, not just on violence and abuse.
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July 27, 2011 9:23am
Griff

Also the left are Quite comfortable harboring totally contradictory view points with out debating them. Bunch of sycophants (a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite. …)
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July 27, 2011 9:32am
Murray

Pete your expereinces are not evidence of anything but your experiences and perceptions. Why not undertake some form of systematic review then pitch your thesis.

You first issue is sorting out the political polarity of WHO is using such language, not just the polotics of the site they’re doing it.
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July 27, 2011 9:37am
Pete George

Murray, too much attention is given to supposed political polarity, and too little attention is given to what is reasonable and productive behaviour and what is destructive. I think that stoking polarity is one of the worst aspects of our politics.
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July 27, 2011 9:57am
redeye

From the Herald Sun:

“SHE was on a work trip, staying in a motel booked and paid for by her employer – but does a sex accident count as being injured on work time?

That is the question the Federal Court will today begin to consider, as a public servant argues for compensation after being injured during a night of passion.

The federal government employee, who cannot be identified, was injured when a glass light fitting came away from the wall above the bed as she was having sex with a man in 2007.

The light struck her in the face, leaving her with injuries to her nose, mouth and a tooth, as well as “a consequent psychiatric injury”.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/public-servants-motel-sex-compo-claim/comments-fn7x8me2-1226102406812
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July 27, 2011 9:59am
grumpyoldhori

Violence, terrorism, strange you ranting right wing types never bring up the bombing of the trade union hall that killed a bloke.
And no that bomb was not put in place by a lefty or a hori.
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July 27, 2011 10:05am
Sonny Blount

Pete,

It is my experience that the most mature discussion more serious consideration is given to differing views on right wing blogs in NZ.

What is destructive is characterising adherents of a centuries old philosophical persuasion with more evidence of success than any other as crazy, evil, and stupid and their audience as unstable.

But I think this polite political discourse you are describing already exists in the Tea Party in the US which is run by mainly women with no previous political involvement.
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July 27, 2011 10:06am
DavidC

Murray…

“Davidc lies, its actually quite pleasent in Palmy after early mornign showers.”

are you in the same Palmy as me coz I got back from walking the dog and its filthy out there!

I am sure my rather excelent , made in Levin, Swazi coat is was the only thing that kept hypothermia away.
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July 27, 2011 10:09am
Sonny Blount

Here’s some more reasonableness for you Pete:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/kilborn-cbs-target-bush-0
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July 27, 2011 10:12am
Mick Mac

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_how_the_greens_plan_to_silence_the_press/

Another reason never to vote Watermelon.
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July 27, 2011 10:13am
Put it away

Graffiti seen at bus stop: “John Key: traiter zionest lier”. Good to know you’re pissing off ignorant vandals. Keep up the good work John!
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July 27, 2011 10:20am
mikenmild

Mick Mac

People likely to vote Green are highly unlikely to look to Andrew Bolt for information.
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July 27, 2011 10:24am
Lance

@Put it away
I remember the line from Mike Moore (NZ politician Mike Moore)
“You haven’t really made it until you are burned in etherege”

A by-product of being a World Trade chairman.

John’s got a ways to go yet… unless that has already happened, like a union rally of something?
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July 27, 2011 10:28am
nasska

Mick Mac

I doubt that in in the history of Western democracy there has ever been a party where the agenda of the politicians differed so greatly from what their supporters think they are voting for. The Karori housewife backs the Greens thinking she is saving frogs & fluffy kiwi chicks…the Greens take her vote & pretend it was for a trip back in time to a socialist dictatorship.

The situation is schizophrenic.
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July 27, 2011 10:44am
Pete George

…the Greens take her vote & pretend it was for a trip back in time to a socialist dictatorship.

Current example – National are launching a Green Paper on children today to seek public input into how to address the major problems we have with vulnerable children, child abuse etc.

Metria Turei launches and says the way to fix everything is to give all poor people more money.

The green planet must be beyond the red planet.
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July 27, 2011 10:54am
RKBee

NO PRESSURE… Now that Labour are so low in the poles under Phil Goffs leadership.. Labour now desperatly need Andrew Little to win the New Plymouth constituent seat.. If they are to gain any credibility that they do have a valid future potential leader that can rebuild labours core values and working class support.. Labour will need to make a deal with NP Independent Rusty Kane not to stand in order to counter balance Act who are not standing a candidate in the NP seat to help Nationals local MP Jonathan Young gain more votes. BUT LABOUR DON”T DO DEALS..
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July 27, 2011 11:12am
mikenmild

Pete

The Green Paper – what a joke. Just another excuse not to do anything. As if any more reports were required.
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July 27, 2011 11:17am
Pete George

mikenmild – writing the Green Paper off is an excuse not to do anything. The more the public and community groups get involbved the better the chance of success. This is how democracy is supposed to work, advising, consulting. We have to make sure the do the listening bit.
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July 27, 2011 11:27am
wreck1080

The Bakels New Zealand Supreme Pie Awards are a sham.

They awarded the top award to a fruit pie.

pahhh!!! Vegetarians hijacked the pie awards.
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July 27, 2011 11:42am
Lance

@wreck
“Vegetarians hijacked the pie awards.”

That’s a bit of a stretch. Isn’t like it was a tofu and lentil pie that won. Just picture someone scoffing down a good old steak and cheese pie followed by dessert of a fruit pie.
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July 27, 2011 11:45am
Mick Mac

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_playing_with_the_blood_of_the_dead/

PeteG
I was working so didn’t reply to you on GD when you said you didn’t know what I was going on about.
Bolt covers the Oz scene and American thinker covered the US media/left/liberal set.
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July 27, 2011 12:00pm
slightlyrighty

I see labour are campaigning on Asset Sales saying that “if we sell them, we can’t get them back”

Really?

Who bought 78% of Air New Zealand in 2001?

Who bought Kiwirail in 2008?
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July 27, 2011 12:07pm
Pete George

Re Mick Mac:

Hear that cackling among the moans?

It’s Leftist polemicists, gleeful that the Norwegian murderer was a “far-Right Christian”.

I haven’t seen any glee over the Norway tragedy from the left. It’s been far more shock and horror.
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July 27, 2011 12:08pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5346474/Condemn-suicides-Maori-Party-MP

Jesus Fucking Christ have some compassion…
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July 27, 2011 12:12pm
Mick Mac

redeye (368) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 9:59 am

She may have a claim against the hotel and they against the fitters of the light fitting if negligence can be proven but not off of her employers.
How come this has got this far?
She needs identifying and sacking for the safety of other potential employers and people she may claim against in the future.
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July 27, 2011 12:14pm
KevinH

Sorry to dissappoint you grumpyolehori(1925)10.05am, that it was never proven that the bombing was a right wing conspiracy.http://peter-petterson.blogspot.com/2008/07/1984-wellington-trades-hall-bombing.html.
The speculation at the time had the left bombing the left, which considering the militancy of the unions at the time, sounds plausible.
As for alleged threats of violence on right wing blogs, there hasn’t been any.Sometimes the language can be graphic, but relatively the rhetoric is harmless.
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July 27, 2011 12:24pm
mikenmild

Mick Mac

Andrew Bolt hits a new low there. Must be having a competition with Glenn Beck to see who can be most offensive.
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July 27, 2011 12:25pm
Mick Mac

Yeah mikenmild
still good news for you and your household, Israel has seen what it is doing wrong!
http://melaniephillips.com/at-last-israel-starts-to-make-its-case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo&feature=channel_video_title
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July 27, 2011 12:41pm
Mick Mac

Pete George (10,605) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
yeah you’re so right.

Yeah the Norwegian ambassador to Israel Svein Sevje puts the party line.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-remains-utterly-hopelessly.html
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July 27, 2011 12:50pm
Scott Chris

“The identities of the jurors in the Casey Anthony trial can be made public but not for another three months, a Florida judge has ruled.”

Seems the media will have to wait another 3 months to put the jury on trial.
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July 27, 2011 1:27pm
Luc Hansen

Rudd raises concerns over North Korea’s nuclear threat

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10741018

Kim Jong-il to Rudd:

“Boo!”
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July 27, 2011 1:45pm
Elaycee

grumpyoldhori (1,925) Says: July 27th, 2011 at 10:05: “Violence, terrorism, strange you ranting right wing types never bring up the bombing of the trade union hall that killed a bloke. And no that bomb was not put in place by a lefty or a hori.”

Wow! Given that the person(s) responsible have never been found, perhaps you should approach the Police and pass on your theories. If you can eliminate sections of society in the manner above, then perhaps you can tell them who was responsible for killing Ernie Abbott because at this point in time, the killer remains free….
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July 27, 2011 1:57pm
mikenmild

As I recall, the Police speculated that the Trades Hall bomber was a middle-aged man (I think there were some witness reports) with a grudge against unions, but as they never identified a suspect then the motive must remain unknown.
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July 27, 2011 2:00pm
grumpyoldhori

mikenmild if I recall suspicion was with some farmer, back then they had the right to keep and use gelignite on farms.
Mercury switch, hmm, most of us who have ever set a charge know what they are and how they work.

But he was not a hori and why would a lefty attack a union hall ?
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July 27, 2011 2:26pm
Banana Llama

“Those in favor can vote yes and the scabs can vote no”

Democracy Union style, i wouldn’t be so dead sure it was a right winger Grumpy.
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July 27, 2011 2:33pm
Griff

Does any one know more about a bomb that went off that I seem to recall. it blew some guys hand off and there was a link to the Hare Krishna maybe Auckland Mt Eden 70s
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July 27, 2011 2:41pm
grumpyoldhori

Banana Llama middle aged at the time, he will be dead shortly then the cops can state who and what he was once he is in the ground and what evidence they had about him.
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July 27, 2011 2:45pm
Pete George

“The single most important debate this country can have” – Bennett

Green Paper for Vulnerable Children – http://www.childrensactionplan.govt.nz/home
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July 27, 2011 2:50pm
Rat

There was Neil Ian Roberts as well

Still cant figure out if he was a leftie or a rightie
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July 27, 2011 2:51pm
cha

#Griff

That’ll be the Ananda Marga loons who blew bits of themselves all over Grey Lynn but I cant remember whether it was before or after 1978 bombing of Sydney’s Hilton Hotel that killed a couple of rubbish bin men and a copper.
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July 27, 2011 3:04pm
Griff

such is memory
I apologize to any Hare Krishna who have been upset by my post
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July 27, 2011 3:07pm
Viking2

grumpyoldhori (1,928) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 10:05 am

Violence, terrorism, strange you ranting right wing types never bring up the bombing of the trade union hall that killed a bloke.
And no that bomb was not put in place by a lefty or a hori.

Hey grumpy chump. Why don’t you present concrete provable evidence instaed of your constant inuendo.
There were plenty of union ex members who were pretty pissed with the union movement in those days.
And some nasty buggers at that. I worked among them.
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July 27, 2011 3:16pm
Banana Llama

Neil Roberts tried to blow up Whanganui’s police database a while back and killed himself in the attempt, supposedly a political motive involved there as well.

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July 27, 2011 3:18pm
Mick Mac

Longknives (303) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
“if you can’t do any good, don’t do any harm”!
That’s a bit rich coming from Helen’s Left hand man isn’t it.

Whilst I can understand where Te Ururoa Flavell is coming from but it would seem the horse would’ve bolted already.
Surely he doesn’t think suicides are thinking rationally anyway.
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July 27, 2011 3:22pm
Elaycee

grumpyoldhori says: “suspicion was with some farmer, back then they had the right to keep and use gelignite on farms”….

Oh, bollocks. According to the NZPA at the time: “The light green suitcase had a small Rica banana label on it. The suitcase – booby-trapped to go off when moved – contained the equivalent of at least 1kg of gelignite. However, the actual explosive involved was never identified.”

No farmer mentioned. No gelignite identified. Just theories. No facts.

[Sigh…..]
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July 27, 2011 3:47pm
mikenmild

I seem to remember the Police had a description of someone they wanted to talk to – a man in a blue suit? But I don’t think they ever got close to identifying any suspect.
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July 27, 2011 3:51pm
side show bob

Yeah good one Grumpy, blame the farmer, had to be farmer of course, right wing bastards.
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July 27, 2011 4:06pm
Batman

Hahaha, ‘man in a blue suit’, well that certainly narrows it down! NOT.

I was under the impression that it was a disgruntled unionist who was upset with what the supposedly ‘left-wing’ Labour party was undertaking in government? I used to live across the road from that building, I could pop round and ask the current tennants who did it? I think there’s a design/seamstress studio and an office stamps shop there!
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July 27, 2011 4:50pm
wat dabney

NAACP PASSES HISTORIC RESOLUTION CALLING FOR END TO WAR ON DRUGS

“Today the NAACP has taken a major step towards equity, justice and effective law enforcement,” stated Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP. “These flawed drug policies that have been mostly enforced in African American communities must be stopped and replaced with evidenced-based practices that address the root causes of drug use and abuse in America.”

The resolution outlines the facts about the failed drug war, highlighting that the U.S. spends over $40 billion annually on the war on drugs, locking up low-level drug offenders – mostly from communities of color. African Americans are in fact 13 times more likely to go to jail for the same drug-related offense than their white counterparts.

“Studies show that all racial groups abuse drugs at similar rates, but the numbers also show that African Americans, Hispanics and other people of color are stopped, searched, arrested, charged, convicted, and sent to prison for drug-related charges at a much higher rate,” stated Alice Huffman, President of the California State Conference of the NAACP. “This dual system of drug law enforcement that serves to keep African-Americans and other minorities under lock and key and in prison must be exposed and eradiated.”

http://copssaylegalize.blogspot.com/2011/07/naacp-says-end-war-on-drugs.html
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July 27, 2011 6:07pm
RightNow

I hear Rupert Murdoch is very moved by all the messages of sympathy left on Amy Winehouse’s parents’ answerphone.
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July 27, 2011 6:24pm
nasska

RightNow

Very droll!
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July 27, 2011 6:27pm
plebe

I hear Rupert Murdoch is very moved by all the messages of sympathy left on Amy Winehouse’s parents’ answerphone.

Very good
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July 27, 2011 6:28pm
Griff

Kid gets home from school honky been teaching him all this crap sos he can get a job like dad
any way Rangi and Sid are are out side the tinny house playing with their remote controlled car and the kid gets to drive it round then uncle Solly turns up with some more tinnys and shouts them a feed

Kid knows were money comes from Who is hero dad and mum who fight over who gets to spend wot little they have or the bros down the Tinny house who have got all the toys

Go figure
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July 27, 2011 6:50pm
expat

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10741060

http://www.exploit-tech.com/cos/o.x?c=/etp_tec/pagetree&func=view&rid=5181

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iIPAdcRIb4EJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Barnett_(politician)+Jonathan+Kirkpatrick+new+zealand&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

labour rainbow connections?
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July 27, 2011 6:54pm
grumpyoldhori

Elaycee bollocks to gelignite on farms ? some of the dumb bastards had gelignite so fucking old it was weeping.
One stupid bastard wanted it carried out of the shed by others, typical Nat, we burnt the bloody shed down.
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July 27, 2011 6:58pm
nasska

A man lost both ears in an accident. No plastic surgeon could offer
him a solution. He heard of a very good one in Sweden, and went to him.
The new surgeon examined him, thought a while, and said:
“Yes, I can put you right.”

After the operation, bandages off, stitches out, he goes to his hotel.
The morning after, in a rage, he calls his surgeon, and yells:

“You bastard, you gave me a woman’s ears.”

“Well, an ear is an ear, it makes no difference whether it is a man’s
or a woman’s.”
“You’re wrong, I hear everything, but I don’t understand a thing!”
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July 27, 2011 7:02pm
Rodders

😀
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July 27, 2011 7:04pm
grumpyoldhori

side show bob well I would not he a strong as you in saying all farmers are right wing bastards 🙂
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July 27, 2011 7:06pm
Steve

nasska

???????????

🙂
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July 27, 2011 7:17pm
Steve

Since the death of Bin Laden, NZ police have arrested 4 Maori terrorists – Bin Bludgin, Bin Thieven, Bin Boozin and Bin Dealin – there is no sign of Bin Doin or Bin Workin
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July 27, 2011 7:24pm
nasska

A man, wishing to be ordained, is told he must give up alcohol and drugs and even go without sex for the foreseeable future. Two weeks later, he returns to the priests who challenged him to tell of his progress. He said, “well I’ve been clean of the booze and the weed for two weeks now, but the other day I saw my missus bend over and couldn’t resist giving her one.”
“I’m afraid that’s frowned upon by the Church.”
“I’m not too surprised, the people in New World weren’t that happy either.”
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July 27, 2011 7:29pm
Rodders

😀
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July 27, 2011 7:33pm
nasska

Two hunters were in a lodge, making small talk. One of them
asked the other “So, what do you hunt?” He answered “I hunt
unicorns.”
The first hunter was startled, but said “Really? How do
you do that?”

The other answered “I find a virgin and hire her to help me.
The virgin sits around in the woods until a unicorn comes
to her. They like posing with virgins. When it does, it sets
off a snare.”

The first hunter said “Boy, they must be hard to find.
I’ve heard of them, but I’ve never seen one.”

The second hunter said “Yeah, and there aren’t many
unicorns around, either!”
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July 27, 2011 7:44pm
Rodders

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July 27, 2011 7:52pm
Steve

Lot of people have never heard of them, or seen them, because they probably are one
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July 27, 2011 7:55pm
reid

A man stuck a butter knife into his belly in a failed bid at self-surgery to remove a painful hernia, California police said.

The wife of the 63-year-old Glendale man called paramedics on Sunday night and told the emergency operator her husband was using a knife to remove a protruding hernia, Sgt. Tom Lorenz said.

“She said he had impaled himself with a knife,” Lorenz said.

Officers found the man naked on a patio lounge chair outside his apartment with a 15-centimetre butter knife sticking out of his stomach.

The man’s wife told officers that her husband was upset about the hernia and wanted to take it out.

While waiting for paramedics, the sergeant said, the man pulled out the knife and stuffed a cigarette he was smoking into the bleeding, open wound…

See when you think California is ten years in advance of the rest of the world, you wonder about the future, sometimes.

Excellent, nasska
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July 27, 2011 8:01pm
joana

Mikenmild
As I understood it , the trades hall bomb was intended for Helen Kelly’s father , a big unionist at the time.
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July 27, 2011 8:02pm
Steve

Amy Whinehouse met princess Diana in heaven and asked Diana why she was
wearing a black halo. Diana replied you are still off your face you silly
tart, its not a halo its a steering wheel
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July 27, 2011 8:22pm
reid

As I understood it , the trades hall bomb was intended for Helen Kelly’s father , a big unionist at the time.

Crikey joanna, you do know a lot of interesting things. So then, why would anyone want to do that, at that time, to Pat Kelly? What was going on then?

Don’t feel you need to respond, I’m just musing on the possibilities.
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July 27, 2011 8:26pm
Elaycee

@grumpyoldhori (1,930) Says: “Elaycee bollocks to gelignite on farms?”

Not what I said – I pointed out that the Police could not identify the explosive used in the Trades Hall bombing. For you to say it was gelignite, can only be guesswork. Same with the idea that it was a farmer who did it – this isn’t known either. It could have been a disgruntled idiot pissed off with the bus strike the previous day. As for the “it wasn’t a lefty or a hori” – again, unless you know who really did it, then you are merely speculating. Not an unusual habit for a lefty.

But we can agree that it was bloody awful and not even a reward of $50,000 (the biggest reward offered at the time) has tempted someone ‘in the know’ to come forward. As mentioned earlier, the killer is still walking free…
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July 27, 2011 8:27pm
Elaycee

@nasska – very good. 🙂
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July 27, 2011 8:29pm
krazykiwi

@nasska – you have single handedly made kiwiblog a laugh-out-loud place. I know you source this stuff but who the hell cares. Thanks. I enjoy a good laugh. Best, kk
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July 27, 2011 8:35pm
Scott Chris

@reid (7,959) Says:
July 27th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

If you’re saying joana may have some ‘inside’ information, the thought did cross my mind as well.

@ nasska – yes, lol.
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July 27, 2011 9:05pm
reid

No Scott, was just musing.
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July 27, 2011 9:28pm
Viking2

Quite possible cause Kelly was an arsehole of the first dimension.
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July 27, 2011 9:44pm
Viking2

another Labour (oh and National Fail).

Government policy makers don’t understand family firms.

Christine Woods, a senior lecturer at the University of Auckland’s Business School, said Labour may not have talked to family businesses to gauge what impact its capital gains tax policy could have on such companies.

The head of BDO’s Family Business and Succession Sector Group, Jeff Roberts, said a major issue facing owner-managed businesses was the transition of leadership from one generation to the next.

“Over the next decade we’ll see the biggest ever inter-generational transfer of wealth in our history take place as the baby boomers retire,” he said.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10741261
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July 28, 2011 7:02am
Manolo

See when you think California is ten years in advance of the rest of the world..

Yes, in lunacy CA leads the way.
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July 28, 2011 7:06am
Manolo

The Messiah: a demagogue, an empty vessel: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/all-talk-no-walk_577603.html
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July 28, 2011 7:09am
big bruv

Another socialist who thinks that he can help himself to other peoples money.

Note the connection to the Labour party.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/5350737/AUT-resignation-amid-investigation
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July 28, 2011 7:47am
RKBee

How the U.S. Got $14 Trillion in Debt and Who Are the Creditors
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/28/us/charting-the-american-debt-crisis.html
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