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July 24, 2011 8:03am
Sofia

apropos comments army combat role on yesterday’s General Debate

Matt McCarten: In previous eras, I suppose we’d call us mercenaries…
“…Does anyone believe for a minute the official line that our SAS commandos are merely acting as mentors to the Afghan police force’s Crisis Response Unit?
I guess none of us are really meant to swallow it – but it does give fig leaf cover for what their real role is.
It looks to me like we’ve become de facto commanders and heavyweights for the serious work of taking out the Afghan Government’s enemies in a civil war.
In previous eras, I suppose we’d call us mercenaries.
Whenever our soldiers are caught on camera in any melee – our elites in this country start singing the praises for our boys killing the bad guys.
It’s all good fun as none of our boys get hurt.
There’s only one exception, when one soldier got shot by “friendly fire”.
But that doesn’t count.
Our SAS are the new pin-ups.
They have received uncritical and even adulation by our press – where women are even encouraged by pap photo pieces to consider the dating attributes of our SAS heroes.
More seriously, they get well-deserved respect from their international counterparts.
So I am not surprised they want to stay in Afghanistan.
What does concern me, though, is that they have lobbied Prime Minister John Key to stay and he says he is considering that option.
Taking into account whether soldiers want to go or stay in any war theatre should never be a factor when making decisions like this…”

– http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10740452
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July 24, 2011 8:22am
Peter

Amy Winehouse

RIP
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July 24, 2011 8:25am
Inventory2

The Standard hit a new low yesterday:

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/07/sickening-opportunism-goes-both-ways.html
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July 24, 2011 8:29am
Grant Michael McKenna

Labour has embarked on an attack on the PM for having displayed “sickening opportunism over [the] Norway attacks”, claiming that “he was quick to exploit Norway’s tragedy for political gain” by fabricating “an opportunity to justify continuing the military deployments in Afghanistan”.
The White House has posted a video of the ‘remarks to the press’ session [not a press conference- questions were not taken]: http://youtu.be/ikdHsoyoH14. They have also posted a transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/22/remarks-president-obama-and-prime-minister-key-new-zealand . The only people to have claimed responsibility by this morning at 6am were Ansar al-Islam, but both President Obama and PM Key refused to attribute blame.
Labour edited the PM’s remarks, disregarding his associating himself with President Obama’s sympathy to Norway and cutting off the conditional clause from the PM’s statement. The relevant part of the PM’s words were: ‎”Similarly, I echo your sympathies and concern for that situation in Norway. If it is an act of global terrorism, I think what it shows is no country, large or small, is immune from that risk. And that’s why New Zealand plays its part in Afghanistan as we try and join others like the United States in making the world a safer place.”

Now: my question- what are the odds that [a] mainstream media will report the attempted beat-up? [b] join in with Labour? [c] ignore the issue because Labour’s lies have already been exposed, and if they run the story they’d have to apologise later?
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July 24, 2011 8:36am
Grant Michael McKenna

Sorry- in my comment above I was meaning Saturday morning, not Sunday morning.
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July 24, 2011 8:40am
Inventory2

@ GMM – as I have noted in the most recent comment on the blog-post I linked to, two Labour MP’s have publicly endorsed The Standard’s scumbaggery; Darien Fenton and Trevor Mallard. Push this on Twitter, especially if among your followers you have members of the MSM; there are a heck of a lot of journos hanging out on Twitter now, and it is an effective means of getting a story out there.
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July 24, 2011 8:45am
MyNameIsJack

Of course the nutbarfruitcake Right Wing Reactionary Rethuglicans would never use such a tragedy to support their Jihad on the World, would they?

Moreover, there is a specific jihadist connection here: “Just nine days ago, Norwegian authorities filed charges against Mullah Krekar, an infamous al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist who, with help from Osama bin Laden, founded Ansar al Islam – a branch of al Qaeda in northern Iraq – in late 2001.”

This is a sobering reminder for those who think it’s too expensive to wage a war against jihadists. I spoke to Gary Schmitt of the American Enterprise Institute, who has been critical of proposed cuts in defense and of President Obama’s Afghanistan withdrawal plan. “There has been a lot of talk over the past few months on how we’ve got al-Qaeda on the run and, compared with what it once was, it’s become a rump organization. But as the attack in Oslo reminds us, there are plenty of al-Qaeda allies still operating. No doubt cutting the head off a snake is important; the problem is, we’re dealing with global nest of snakes.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/norway-bombing/2011/03/29/gIQAB4D3TI_blog.html

The Rethuglicans are using this as an excuse to keep the US embedded in Afghanistan as long as possible. Why? Because of the billions the Rethuglican supporters are making from this war. Whilst the Teabirthpartier branch of the Rethuglican Party screams about lowering the defecit, tney are happy to see $300 million a DAY pissed up against the wall because they’re the ones making hay whuile Afghanistan burns.

The “global nest of snakes” has made its nest in the USofA.
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July 24, 2011 9:06am
Inventory2

@ MNIJ; you lose any credibility (and readers) when within four words of a lengthy comment, you resort to abuse.

Just sayin’
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July 24, 2011 9:34am
Bobbie black

Did anyone else hear Penny ranting on Radio live talkback last night?

Sorry Penny, a bit like your posts here I fell asleep after about two minutes in.

Judgment suppression, corrupt judges and solicitor general, appeals…zzzz.
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July 24, 2011 9:35am
Tommo

I don’t even bother to read MNIJ’s bile. I just scroll past, because it’s the reading equivalent to eating kitty-litter. Used kitty-litter at that..
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July 24, 2011 9:40am
Nookin

GMM & IV2
I have not been able to open the links to the actual comments but have read the transcripts posted. It seems to me that some comment was required by both Obama and Key in the circumstances and, given the information available, the qualified reference to global terrorism was justified. Even if the culprit was acting on his own, reference to terrorism was justified.

Comments on the Standard are not only sickening, they are dishonest. When you deliberately edit quotes to give another meaning, you are dishonest. So, the answer to your question about MSM is that some will report the issue without clarification of the actual quote, some will join with Labour and both groups will displayed their dishonesty.

We are in for a really dirty election campaign. There will be very little integrity shown. We have had it with the Israelis and the “small mines” issues this week. Unashamed use of personal tragedies to advance a political cause. We even had Goff refusing to be briefed because if he knew the truth he would not be able to criticise the Government. The underlying attitude toward Goff’s approach is scary — he would much rather exploitt rumour, gossip, innuendo and deception than get to the truth.

Fuck them all — Standard, Fenton, Mallard and Goff. NZ has a major issue with ethics – work ethic, honesty , contributions to society etc. With people like these nothing will improve. It starts from the top down and when the top is already in the sewer we’ve got trouble
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July 24, 2011 10:03am
jcuk

Awhile back I stopped coming to Kiwiblog because of the strife here, Redbaiter etc, and went to the refreshingly good The Standard. But of late I have been sickened by the tone of The Standard. I wonder if the reason for this is the desperation of the Left as they see their hopes of getting back onto the Government benches slipping further and further away. They really are loosing the plot when they edit out pertinent qualifications in comments.
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July 24, 2011 10:35am
shady

“Pakeha kill just as many children as Maori, despite Maori being the “face of abuse” in the media, according to a researcher.”

Is this for real? How come we don’t hear about it? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5331753/Pakeha-child-abuse-ignored-researcher.

And as for the Horizon Poll – bring on the election and we’ll see just how accurate they are. There are no actual percentages quoted for Labour and the Greens – I suspect that their polling probably shows the Greens and Labour running neck and neck – now that would be funny!
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July 24, 2011 10:38am
Viking2

You went to the sewer??

Oh dear, Red may have been fairly forthright and not everyones cup of tea but at least he wanted freedom and release from the shackles of Labour and Communism disguised as socialism in NZ.

Perhaps you are beginning to see the difference.
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July 24, 2011 10:43am
Viking2

New Zealand is risking an American rebuke over one of this country’s pet aid projects, which brings hundreds of Pacific Islanders here to work for minimum wages picking fruit and grapes, warn high-level US sources.

Wellington sees the recognised seasonal employer scheme as charity, but Washington views it as verging on human trafficking and debt-bonded labour.

This comes as the US State Department’s latest international report on human trafficking condemned the use of forced labour on foreign charter fishing boats, exposed by the Sunday Star-Times.

Last week US Human Trafficking Ambassador Luis CdeBaca came with a delegation to talk with government officials, unions and lobby groups.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5331742/US-raises-red-flag-over-Pacific-Island-workers

Perhaps these stupid bloody yanks could look along their own Mexican borders and around California and see what happens there before they come on a South Sea’s junket(holiday) at the poor broken American Taxpayers expense.
The sooner the Repub’s get to trimming the budget the better.
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July 24, 2011 10:46am
starboard

“the refreshingly good The Standard.”

comedy gold..
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July 24, 2011 10:46am
Viking2

By age 16, 36 per cent of kids are bored all or some of the time and one quarter want to leave school as soon as possible. Other OECD countries protect youth from unemployment – and its associated ills such as pregnancy, crime, drug and alcohol abuse – by exciting them with education.

By age 16 some years ago we in that category went to work on youth rates. Did we turn out to be illerate and unsuccessful.
I didn’t and I doubt that many other good people did either.
What will happen to this generation is another question.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10740457
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July 24, 2011 11:01am
grumpyoldhori

Pakeha child abuse, does not happen ,just ask members of the raving white extreme right.
Hell, a pakeha can chop a woman into eight pieces and his race is not mentioned by the raving white right wing.
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July 24, 2011 11:01am
The Gantt Guy

Hori, surely even you’re not *that* retarded? How do you draw a line between child abuse and some nutjob cutting up a woman?

To the point at hand, I don’t think anyone is suggesting some Pakeha (or, if you prefer, “non-Maori”) don’t abuse children. But where a demographic representing 10% of the population is responsible for 50% of the reported abuse cases, surely even a racist like you must admit there’s a causative link?
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July 24, 2011 11:08am
big bruv

So…are we all Southland supporters now?
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July 24, 2011 11:17am
Manolo

The Standard hit a new low yesterday.

That’s impossible! The left’s den is already a cesspool, a urinal, and smelly swamp combined.
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July 24, 2011 11:46am
TripeWryter

“That’s impossible! The left’s den is already a cesspool, a urinal, and smelly swamp combined.’

In short, Manolo, shit, piss, and a bog.
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July 24, 2011 12:28pm
Viking2

Peters slams “mythical statements”

Sunday, 24, Jul, 2011 9:24AM

The government is being Criticised for making empty promises on New Zealand employment.

It follows comments by National cabinet minister Nick Smith about there being no quick fix to the unemployment situation.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters says the May budget clearly stated the creation of 170,000 jobs, but since, thousands of people have lost their jobs.

He says it shows political puffery, and a promise that wasn’t worth the air it passed on.

“A budget statement should not contain such mythical statements, particularly when it should have been prepared with supporting evidence from government departments,” says Mr Peters.

He says people need jobs now and a sensible plan to get the economy moving again is long overdue.
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July 24, 2011 12:43pm
DavidC

I enjoy the Standard, its fun to throw bait at the dipshits and see how big of a bite you can get.
A couple of them do actually have brains too! in a warped lefty kinda way…
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July 24, 2011 12:47pm
TimG_Oz

NEWSFLASH: Southland Times uncovers Mossad plot behind last years Ranfurly Shield loss!
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July 24, 2011 1:25pm
hj

Media Watch rubbishes reporting of Israelis caught in quake:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2494163/mediawatch-for-24-july-2011.asx

The Greens disagree
http://blog.greens.org.nz/2011/07/22/israeli-sar-leader-had-worked-in-intelligence/#comments
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July 24, 2011 2:04pm
plebe

The new workforce under ACT-rather boring
http://www.dump.com/2011/07/15/fascinating-1936-footage-of-car-assembly-line-video/
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July 24, 2011 2:39pm
Southern Raider

Does the Sunday Star Times get the Horizon Poll info for free. Surely you wouldn’t actually pay for this crap.

Has National only 10% ahead of Labour and that a Labour lead coalition (or axis of evil) would when the election.
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July 24, 2011 2:45pm
TimG_Oz

Southlanders have discovered that the Mossad were to blame for the defection of Israel (Dagg) from Highlanders to Crusaders. How else could it be explained other than a secret society brainwashing their own?

They’re glad now that they’ve proved the existance via their newspaper, and duly outed the culprits.

[OK Sorry. I couldn’t help myself]
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July 24, 2011 3:17pm
DJP6-25

Tommo 9:40 am. Yes, I just scroll past the trolls too. Trolls belong in LOTR, and Discworld.

cheers

David Prosser
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July 24, 2011 3:23pm
Rex Widerstrom

Viking2 notes:

“A budget statement should not contain such mythical statements, particularly when it should have been prepared with supporting evidence from government departments,” says Mr Peters.

No, the appropriate action for a Treasurer to take is hire someone with an entirely bogus CV to head your “economic advisory team”, take the advice of her and others in your office because you’re too lazy to process the information yourself, do a stunningly mediocre job as a result, then express wonderment when your patronage is at least partly responsible for landing her a job heading a government department, which she then proceeds to pervert to her own ends.

The greatest myth is Winston’s own reconstruction of his past, which is surely close to excusing one of the litany of disasters by claiming he was lied to by an evil leprechaun.
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July 24, 2011 3:26pm
DJP6-25

plebe 2:39 Not a place to work in if you’re inclined to day dream. A moments in attention in some of those jobs would render you armless.

cheers

David Prosser
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July 24, 2011 3:40pm
Viking2

Ah well Rex you see it that way but alas for you others don’t.

The point really is that he is correct and will gain traction with people because of what he is saying.
What is incorrect about this;
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters says the May budget clearly stated the creation of 170,000 jobs, but since, thousands of people have lost their jobs.

It was a joke when English wrote it three years ago and continues to be a joke. English and his dopey arsed little mate Smith are just that, a joke. Neither have any idea of what to do nor where to start other than believing in Fairy Tales like Global Warming and such shit.
While I would not vote for Winston I’m completely happy that he raises these issues and more if only to show up the shallowness of the highly paid Cabinet Ministers that once were his mates.
Of the brat pack the only one to make a difference has been Tony Ryall.
English and Smith need to join Shipley and Richardson on the benefits brigade.
Looking at Keys line up’s for the election, I’d say they are destined for that.
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July 24, 2011 4:52pm
Viking2

Here Rex is an example of the sort of stuff that Smith did. Now of course with an election coming its all getting reversed.
Not saying there wasn’t plenty to do but this wasn’t one of the items worth pursuing. All ACC did was blame everything other than a physical injury on people getting older. but a few court cases that they didn’t win and Smith is all sweetness and nice again. Fucking hypocritical wanker he is.

ACC and hearing loss
Posted by Chris Hipkins on July 24th, 2011

When National took office, they manufactured a financial crisis in ACC in order to cut entitlements and prepare it for privatisation. Nick Smith’s hysterical claims about the financial state of ACC have now been widely discredited, and even Smith himself is now trying to back away from them by claiming a miraculous financial turnaround in just 18 months.

Smith and the National government used the financial crisis to make a number of changes to ACC that undermine some of the central principles behind the scheme. The changes that they made to compensation for victims of work-related hearing loss illustrate it well.
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/07/24/acc-and-hearing-loss/

And by the way I rarely go to Red Blurt because its usually as bad a Smith and Blenglish with its bullshit.
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July 24, 2011 4:58pm
krazykiwi

From The Telegraph

Officers were interrogating Breivik, who was captured on Friday about three hours after planting a bomb in central Oslo before going on a shooting rampage on an island 25 miles away.

Acting Chief of Police Sveinung Sponheim said: “He has had a dialogue with the police the whole time, but he’s a very demanding suspect.“

If this were other countries I’d suggest the demands would have been for the police remove the electrodes because he’d tell all. Given that it’s Norway it’s more likely he’s demanding better quality room service. 🙂
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July 24, 2011 5:02pm
reid

Isn’t this is a shame…

Awwwwwwwwwwwww

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/netanyahu-may-be-forced-to-destroy-settlers-homes-2319062.html
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July 24, 2011 5:12pm
krazykiwi

Carbon offsets have already run out of credit
:::
On December 28, 2010, the European law enforcement agency EuroPol issued a media release about extensive defrauding of the European Union emissions trading system.

EuroPol reported that it had raided several hundred offices throughout Europe and had arrested more than 100 people.

In one operation in Italy, the police conducted raids on 150 companies in eight regions as part of an investigation into huge volumes of suspected fraudulent transactions on the Italian Power Exchange.

EuroPol reported that raids also occurred in Norway, Switzerland, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Latvia, the Netherlands, Slovak Republic and Portugal.

After these actions, trading volumes in Europe dropped by 90 per cent.

It appears that 90 per cent of trades in the European Union emissions trading system were fraudulent, resulting in a loss to European taxpayers of more than $6.6 billion.

:::

Prime Minister Gillard is proposing in her carbon tax policy that an estimated $57 billion of Australian taxpayer funds will be sent offshore to buy “carbon offsets” to enable this country to reach Labor’s new target of an 80 per cent reduction in emissions by 2050.

The logic of her proposal is that Australians should pay people overseas tens of billions of dollars for the right to burn our own coal and to meet her commitment that the coal industry has a “bright future”.

This is apparently to be achieved through a non-existent (at this stage) international trading system.

Absolute madness.
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July 24, 2011 5:17pm
reid

The Saudis are in an interesting position are the US have by their inaction over the Arab spring in allowing their old ME allies to fall, laid open the way for China to replace the US as Saudi’s closest big brother. How is this a good strategic move?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabias-new-law-would-make-political-dissent-a-crime-2319058.html
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July 24, 2011 5:18pm
reid

Absolute madness.

Absolutely.

Why the politicians think we don’t see straight through it is beyond me. You’d have to be about ten or younger not to. But yet, many adults, don’t. They really think it’s a good idea.

How do we rational “survivors” to use their vernacular, get it through to the otherwise sane cousins and aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, parents, children, that: THE FUCKING ENVIRONMENT IS NOT REPEAT NOT IN TROUBLE YOU COMPLETE FUCKING MENTAL!!!@

How does one do that, to all the people around the world who think an ETS is just a super thing?
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July 24, 2011 5:27pm
Viking2

The anti socialist times of Sweden.

“There is also high unemployment among the young and immigrants. This is surely partly because of an effective minimum wage imposed on the various industries by the still-powerful unions. Those who cannot command a good wage, are not allowed to work for a lower one. The consequence is a high unemployment rate among those with lower skills or less experience.”
Yes, we have some things to learn from Sweden. But it is not how to be a socialist paradise. It is, rather, how to react when the idea of a socialist paradise is shown to be fatally flawed.

http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/
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July 24, 2011 5:32pm
reid

Update on the US moves against NewsCorp.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/22/phone-hacking-authorities-subpoena-news-corp

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8656021/Democrats-calling-for-Murdoch-investigation-received-thousands-from-News-Corp.html
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July 24, 2011 5:36pm
Viking2

Krasy Kiwi.
Hop over here and read. Your last post in reply to the question “What happened to polluter pays?”
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/07/22/lignite-doesnt-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-187159

I can see george being banned.
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July 24, 2011 5:43pm
reid

This is well worth reading.

If you do, he’s not BTW talking about any lefties I’ve ever met. All of them are completely mental and would never have had any of the ideas he attributes to them…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8655106/Im-starting-to-think-that-the-Left-might-actually-be-right.html
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July 24, 2011 5:47pm
nasska

reid

….”the US have …….laid open the way for China to replace the US as Saudi’s closest big brother.”…..

Do you think we might be witnessing the beginning of the end of the USA’s interest in the Middle East? It could be that the sheer cost of the ME wars could force the USA back into a pre WW2 state of isolationism. China & maybe India will not be slow to step into any vacuum.

If the USA steps back from being the world’s policeman how to you see this impacting on global security?
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July 24, 2011 5:47pm
krazykiwi

Viking2 – That is an outstanding essay from James Bartholomew.

I’d love the dewy-eyed lefties around here to tell us we should be more like Sweden… I’d send them an Act membership form to help make it so.

Worth a read: Sweden is iconic like Marilyn Munroe or Karl Marx
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July 24, 2011 5:48pm
krazykiwi

Viking2 5:43. Heh! (I’m not george BTW. Just sayin’ given Trev’s efforts of late…)
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July 24, 2011 5:53pm
reid

This guy needs to recuse himself.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8656131/Phone-hacking-inquiry-judge-attended-parties-at-home-of-Rupert-Murdochs-son-in-law.html

Shows what power is and how operates, doesn’t it. Look mate, let’s not make a big deal about this, sure it has to be done in public but try to throw as many spanners in as will allow us to appeal and get this whole thing settled behind closed doors after no-one cares anymore in a few years time. Let’s do it like that, shall we.

Your obvious issue with this case, is all the parties at cesspit-central all have vested interests in making this go away as quickly as possible. Especially the politicians. Especially, the politicians.
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July 24, 2011 6:01pm
reid

nasska suggest you read this, then this.

It may or may not be, the case.
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July 24, 2011 6:06pm
reid

The explosive development means that the issue of whether the fatal crash in the Pont de l’Alma tunnel in Paris was an accident or murder is likely to be once more the subject of a controversial court case.

A source close to the Paris inquiry said: “Everyone assumed that with the end of the British inquest, the investigation into Diana and Dodi’s deaths was closed.

“But this has blown it wide open again. Judge Caddeo is determined to get to the bottom of what happened with the Mishcon note.

“The French courts will not allow this matter to rest and it is understood that if Lord Condon and Sir David refuse to attend Paris for an interview then Judge Caddeo will not hesitate to issue international warrants of arrest.”

Excellent…
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July 24, 2011 6:12pm
krazykiwi

Matt Cartoon: “I’m counterfeiting Euro’s. If I’m caught I’ll plead insanity”. 😀
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July 24, 2011 6:32pm
Steve

Something for a smile?

It takes 7 seconds for food to pass from mouth to stomach. A human hair can hold 3 kg. The length of a penis is 3 X the length of a thumb. The femur is as hard as concrete. A womans heart beats faster then a mans. Women blink 2 X as much as men. We use 300 muscles just to keep our balance when we stand. A woman has read this entire post. The man is still looking at his thumb.
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July 24, 2011 6:34pm
nasska

A fleeing Taliban, desperate for water, was plodding through
the Afghan desert when he saw something far off in the distance.

Hoping to find water, he hurried toward the oasis, only to find a
little old Jewish man at a small stand, selling ties..

The Taliban asked, “Do you have water?”

The Jewish man replied, “I have no water.
Would you like to buy a tie?
They are only £5.”

The Taliban shouted,

“Idiot! I do not need an over-priced tie. I need water!
I should kill you, but I must find water first!

“OK,” said the old Jewish man, “It does not matter
that you do not want to buy a tie and that you hate me.
I will show you that I am bigger than that.

If you continue over that hill to the east for about two miles,
you will find a lovely restaurant.
It has all the ice cold water you need.

Shalom.”

Cursing, the Taliban staggered away over the hill.

Several hours later he staggered back, almost dead & said

“Your bloody brother won’t let me in without a tie!”
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July 24, 2011 7:00pm
Steve

An attorney arrived home late, after a very tough day trying to get a stay
of execution.
His last minute plea for clemency to the governor had failed and he was
feeling worn out and depressed.

As soon as he walked through the door at home, his wife started on him
about, ‘What time of night to be getting home is this? Where have you
been?
Dinner is cold and I’m not reheating it’. And on and on and on.

Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he
poured himself a shot of whiskey and headed off for a long hot soak in the
bathtub, pursued by the predictable sarcastic remarks as he dragged
himself up the stairs.

While he was in the bath, the phone rang. The wife answered and was told
that her husband’s client, James Wright, had been granted a stay of
execution after all. Wright would not be hanged tonight.

Finally realizing what a terrible day he must have had, she decided to
go up stairs and give him the good news.

As she opened the bathroom door, she was greeted by the sight of her
husband, bent over naked, drying his legs and feet.

‘They’re not hanging Wright tonight,’ she said.

He whirled around and screamed, ‘FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOMAN, DON’T YOU
EVER STOP?!’
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July 24, 2011 7:14pm
side show bob

nasska 🙂 🙂
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July 24, 2011 7:20pm
nasska

MOVIE RATING SYSTEM EXPLAINED
G : Nobody gets the girl.
PG : The Good Guy Gets The Girl.
R : The Bad Guy Gets The Girl.
X : Everybody Gets The Girl.
XXX : Everybody gets the girl, her mother, her sister, her father, her father’s boyfriend and the long-haired dachshund.
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July 24, 2011 7:24pm
side show bob

In the July 22nd edition of The Australian a specialist has reported that tidal records have shown sea levels in NZ and Aussie were in a “consistent trend of weak deceleration” between 1940 to 2000. The assumption was levels would be accelerating, appears this is not so. Why are we paying ??????. Where’s the PM’s science adviser, has the heat swelled his tongue or his head stuck up his arse like the rest of the rip off merchants.
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July 24, 2011 7:59pm
krazykiwi

Oh this is priceless. Greenpeace rips into McKinsey about a lack of transparency in the production a single graph – so much so that they write a whole report to counter it.

Their objections? Lack of transparency of process and data, possible external influences etc etc. Basically, all the things they vigorously defended when Mann et al mannufactured the hockey stick.

Hypocrisy from an enviro-politico activist organization? Well, yes. Of course.

Extract:

In any game of make-believe, there is one basic rule. You just play along and dont ask logical questions. For instance, when Greenpeace and the European Renewable Energy Council stated that ’80% of the world’s energy can be supplied by renewable sources’, you just suspend your disbelief and nod along. That’s how it works.

Greenpeace however, forgot this basic rule. Therefore, please don’t blow your irony gasket when reading below.

McKinsey a consultancy company, has made this hockey-stick looking graph shown below, called the CO2 abatement cost curve. Apparently, in the carbon-reduction and REDD world it is very famous. As with fantasy solutions to imaginary problems, the McKinsey’s curve recommendations have real-world consequences. But governments are buying it, and Greenpeace’s become angry.

The world of the carbon-reduction policy market, is crowded, with its numerous specialists, strategies, wedges, masterplans, cap-and-trades, carbon taxes, feed-in-tariffs, and ecosystem payment schemes. Yet, Greenpeace was so upset that it released a whole special report – just to address this one graph from McKinsey.
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July 24, 2011 8:07pm
nasska

reid

…”suggest you read this, then this.”….

Interesting links. The USA obviously sees itself & China as the world leaders of the future. The expose on the likely circumstances behind Mubarak’s departure ring true. Less prophetic was intervention in the operation of the Suez Canal although that may be yet to come. The articles answered questions I have pondered over re the power set up in the Middle East.

The possible breaking up of many of the present Islamic countries makes a lot of sense from an Anglo/American point of view & may be relatively easy to accomplish given the largely tribal as opposed to nationalistic makeup of their societies.

Overall I have to concede that I know less of the situation than I did at 6pm.
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July 24, 2011 8:21pm
reid

Overall I have to concede that I know less of the situation than I did at 6pm.

It’s a shame neither of us apparently have a direct line into Echelon isn’t it. Why the hell not. After all we pay for the damn thing.

I think I’ll start a perception management campaign with Hone and Nicky as my allies, I rather think they’ll think it’s a really terrific idea.

Excellent.

It’s all coming together.

I feel much better now.
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July 24, 2011 9:13pm
Hurf Durf

Heh heh: Johann Hari set to lose his Orwell Prize for being a lying, plagiarising little scrote.

And the Herald’s coverage of this incident remains at precisely nil.
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July 24, 2011 9:44pm
Manolo

Stupid wowsers and zealots want to ruin it for everyone http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5333251/Booze-ban-plea-for-cup-games
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July 25, 2011 7:12am
Nookin

Patrick Gower on TV3 is a total cock!!!!!!
I also see that Goof, over on Stuff, doesn’t want facts to get in the way of another attack on Key.
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July 25, 2011 7:22am
starboard

shite its cold in chc…1-2 feet of snow in some places..bootiful..
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July 25, 2011 7:57am

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