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JP1983

First…
Another day living the dream
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June 27, 2011 6:05am
Lee C

I may have recently inferred that I thought Hone was a spent force, ready to be consigned to the dustbin of history. But that’s bloging – forceful yet vapid and uninformed opinions passed off as the definitive last word.

I hereby apologise for my previous error and wuld like to suggest now that instead Hone Harawira is going to become a venerable elder-stateman of New Zealand politics.

Well done him for door-knocking his way back into the big whare.
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June 27, 2011 7:17am
Lipo

What does it tell you about New Zealand when an overt racist is returned to Parliament with not so much as a wimper from the main stream media.
Tells me that the media is two faced
Tells me that the majority of the Northland Maori are racist
Imagine if you like that a white supremacist stood to a seat in Christchurch. He would be rightly railroaded out of the event. For Hone – nothing
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June 27, 2011 7:49am
Manolo

The racists threaten to spread their message of hate around the country. It will be all in vain. No-hopers and losers will get nowhere. http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10734723
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June 27, 2011 7:51am
hj

Mana is described as “a left-wing indigenous”. Since when did the left celebrate a party that venerates one group as having a superior status based on birth rights while the remainder are “tauiwi” (foreigners in this land).
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June 27, 2011 7:54am
hj

” ‘Ed’s”

“The speeches of the orators were not very interesting, so I took a stroll to a little rising ground at about a hundred yards distance, where a company of natives, better dressed than common, were seated. They had the best sort of ornamented cloaks, and wore in their heads, feathers, which I already knew “commoners” could not afford to wear, as they were only to be procured some hundreds of miles to the south. I therefore concluded these were magnates or “personages” of some kind or other, and determined to introduce myself. As I approached, one of these splendid individuals nodded to me in a very familiar sort of manner, and I, not to appear rude, returned the salute. I stepped into the circle formed by my new friends, and had just commenced a tena koutou, when a breeze of wind came sighing along the hill-top; my friend nodded again, and his cloak blew to one side. What do I see?—or rather what do I not see? The head has nobody under it! A number of heads had been stuck on slender rods, a cross stick being tied on to represent the shoulders, and the cloaks thrown over all in such a natural manner as to deceive any one at a short distance; but a green pakeha, who was not expecting any such matter, to a certainty.
I fell back a yard or two, so as to take a full view of this silent circle, and felt that at last I had fallen into strange company. I began to look more closely at my companions, and to try to fancy what their characters in life had been. One had undoubtedly been a warrior; there was something bold and defiant about the look of the head. Another was the head of a very old man, grey, shrivelled, and wrinkled. I was going on with my observations when I was saluted by a voice from behind with, “Looking at the eds, sir?” It was one of the pakehas formerly mentioned. “Yes,” said I, turning round just the least possible thing quicker than ordinary. “Eds has been a getting scarce,” says he. “I should think so,” says I. “We an’t ad a ed this long time,” says he. “The devil!” says I. “One o’ them eds has been hurt bad,” says he. “I should think all were rather so,” says I. “Oh, no, only one on ’em,” says he; “the skull is split, and it won’t fetch nothin’,” says he. “Oh, murder! I see, now,” says I. “Eds was werry scarce,” says he, shaking his own “ed.” “Ah!” said I. “They had to tattoo a slave a bit ago,” says he, “and the villain ran away, tattooin’ and all!” says page 56 he. “What?” said I. “Bolted afore he was fit to kill,” says he. “Stole off with his own head?” says I. “That’s just it,” says he. “Capital felony!” says I. “You may say that, sir,” says he. “Good morning,” said I, and walked away pretty smartly. “Loose notions about heads in this country,” said I to myself; and involuntarily putting up my hand to my own, I thought somehow the bump of combativeness felt smaller, or indeed had vanished altogether. “It’s all very funny,” said I.
I walked down into the plain, and saw in one place a crowd of women, boys, and others. There was a great noise of lamentation going on. I went up to the crowd, and there beheld, lying on a clean mat, which was spread on the ground, another head. A number of women were standing in a row before it, screaming, wailing and quivering their hands about in a most extraordinary manner, and cutting themselves dreadfully with sharp flints and shells. One old woman, in the centre of the group, was one clot of blood from head to feet, and large clots of coagulated blood lay on the ground where she stood. The sight was absolutely horrible, I thought at the time. She was singing or howling a dirge-like wail. In her right hand she held a piece of tuhua, or volcanic glass, as sharp as a razor: this she placed deliberately page 57 to her left wrist, drawing it slowly upwards to her left shoulder, the spouting blood following as it went, and from the left shoulder downwards, across the breast to the short ribs on the right side; she then shifted the rude but keen knife from the right hand to the left, placed it to the right wrist, drawing it upwards to the right shoulder, and so down across the breast to the left side, thus making a bloody cross on the breast. And so the operation went on all the time I was there; the old creature all the time howling in time and measure, and keeping time, also with the knife, which at every cut was shifted from one hand to the other, as I have described. She had scored her forehead and cheeks before I came; her face and body were one mass of blood, and a little stream was dropping from every finger: a more hideous object could scarcely be conceived. I took notice that the younger women, though they screamed as loud, did not cut near so deep as the old woman; especially about the face.
This custom has been falling gradually out of use; and when practised now, in these degenerate times, the cutting and maiming is a mere form: slight scratching to draw enough blood to swear by; but, in “the good old times,” the thing used to be done properly. I often, of late years, have felt quite indignant to see some degenerate hussy page 58 making believe with a piece of flint in her hand, but who had no notion of cutting herself up properly as she ought to do. It shows a want of natural affection in the present generation, I think; they refuse to shed tears of blood for their friends as their mothers used to do.
This head, I found on inquiry, was not the head of an enemy. A small party of our friends had been surprised, and two brothers were flying for their lives down a hill-side; a shot broke the leg of one of them and he fell. The enemy were close at hand; already the exulting cry “Na! na! mate rawa!” was heard; and the wounded man cried to his brother, “Do not leave my head a plaything for the foe.” There was no time for deliberation. The brother did not deliberate; a few slashes with the tomahawk saved his brother’s head, and he escaped with it in his hand, dried it, and brought it home. The old woman was the mother, the young ones were cousins: there was no sister, as I heard, when I inquired. All the heads on the hill were heads of enemies, and several of them are now in museums in Europe.
With reference to the knowing remarks of the pakeha who accosted me on the hill on the state of the head market, I am bound to remark that my friend Mr. — never speculated in this “article;” but the skippers of many of the page 59 colonial trading schooners were always ready to deal with a man who had “a real good head,” and used to commission such men as my companion of the morning to “pick up heads” for them. It is a positive fact that some time after this the head of a live man was sold and paid for beforehand, and afterwards honestly delivered “as per agreement.”
The scoundrel slave who had the conscience to run away with his own head after the trouble and expense had been gone to to tattoo it to make it more valuable, is no fiction either. Even in “the good old times” people would sometimes be found to behave in the most dishonest manner. But there are good and bad to be found in all times and places.”
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-ManPake-c3.html
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June 27, 2011 7:58am
mikenmild

hj

Clearly you pasted this long extract for a reason. Care to enlighten us on your point?
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June 27, 2011 8:00am
tristanb

Since when did the left celebrate a party that venerates one group as having a superior status based on birth rights while the remainder are “tauiwi” (foreigners in this land).

Cambodia in 1975?
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June 27, 2011 8:02am
Inventory2

@ DPF – you must be humbled by all the publicity

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5195146/More-surgery-today-for-Happy-Feet
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June 27, 2011 8:07am
tristanb

If I had friends in the right places, I’m sure I could make tonnes of money as a consultant.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/5194933/GPS-tracking-for-offenders-shelved-again

Problem:
* They found anklet bracelets with built-in GPS transceivers were uncomfortable, large and cumbersome to wear.
Solution:
* If they’re that uncomfortable, back to prison – give them the choice.

Problem:
* A smaller ankle bracelet.. …was also impractical. The separate unit “presents a risk of frequently lost and/or damaged equipment. It relies on the offender to remember to take the GPS unit with them when they leave the house.”
Solution:
* If an offender loses or damages the unit – the offender pays for it. If he forgets it: back to jail.

Of course I wouldn’t make any money because these answers contain very few buzzwords. 🙁
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June 27, 2011 8:08am
ciaron

When John Campbell whas going on about an unlivable house that was rated green, did he mean it was in the green zone or it was green stickered?
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June 27, 2011 8:09am
Inventory2

Perhaps he thought it was something to do with Metiria Turei…
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June 27, 2011 8:14am
ciaron

Nah, seriously; he is completely misrepresenting the scope of both systems if he implies that either has anything to do with sanitation or livability.
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June 27, 2011 8:24am
hj

hj

Clearly you pasted this long extract for a reason. Care to enlighten us on your point?
…..
A. I made a mistake with the editing.
B. It’s funny.
C. It’s my endorsement of Mana’s “indigenous eco socialism”.
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June 27, 2011 8:32am
hj

How about special visability vests for offenders, with a code (eg s/l 500986 = shoplifter #ect. C/m = conman, r/p = rapist, f|/.. = flasher)?
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June 27, 2011 8:41am
Sonny Blount

hj,

You’re idea reminds me of this recent post:

Here’s a letter to the Washington Post:

Regarding the graphic pictures that, by government decree, will adorn all cigarette packs sold in America, Christopher Buckley writes: “I’m not against the new cigarette labels, but I’m not sure I’m for them. Cigarettes kill – no argument there. So does alcohol. If that pack of Marlboros is going to look like a page from a medical textbook, shouldn’t bottles of Bud carry pictures of car crashes, or cirrhotic livers, or beaten wives? Shouldn’t Big Macs come with photos of early contestants from ‘The Biggest Loser’?” (“Thank you for not warning me about smoking,” June 24).

True dat. But why not also require that graphic warning pictures be draped over government buildings? The Federal Reserve building, for example, might be covered with a huge picture of a graph showing that, since the Fed’s creation, the dollar has lost 96 percent of its value. Truth in advertising would be further promoted if the U.S. Capitol’s exterior featured a supersized photo of Rep. Barney Frank who, after applauding Fannie and Freddie for promoting more home-ownership than would be promoted by the market, proclaimed in 2003 “I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing.”

And from the roof of the White House to its lawn, let hang ginormous photographs of American troops returning home in body bags from Vietnam, Iraq, and other theaters of war in which Uncle Sam had no business acting.

Sincerely,
Donald J. Boudreaux
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June 27, 2011 8:55am
Murray

hj own site, off you go.
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June 27, 2011 9:00am
mikenmild

Sonny

Or the Capitol could be decorated with large images of dead Iraqi and Afghan children.
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June 27, 2011 9:02am
adze

IV2, thanks for the morning laugh.
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June 27, 2011 9:12am
nasska

From TVNZ 7.17am Today

…”On Saturday, The Press reported that some insurance companies had told red-zone residents they would not cover the replacement cost of a house if it was repairable, even if they had full replacement cover”…..

And here once again we have scummy insurance companies hellbent on ripping off their policy holders. These householders would have signed up for “peace of mind” type policies & gone through the exercise of paying their premiums content in the knowledge that their investment was safe. Safe that is until the other party has to blow the dust of its chequebook & pay out some of the money it has taken under false pretenses.

Not being a lawyer I have no idea of which of their devious clauses written in gobbledegook & hidden in fine print they will be using to escape paying. What can be guaranteed is that the payout will not represent anything resembling what was intimated when the policy was taken out.

Small wonder people take the chance & go without insurance cover.
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June 27, 2011 9:23am
ciaron

Small wonder people take the chance & go without insurance cover.

Indeed, they may well have been better off putting the money in the bank…
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June 27, 2011 9:26am
Rick Rowling

DPF – How about an auto truncate of say 15 or 20 lines?

With a link at the end.

I don’t know if it’s possible, but it would be nice.
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June 27, 2011 9:27am
Manolo

An interesting read: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/270484/our-sharia-compliant-afghan-war-andrew-c-mccarthy
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June 27, 2011 9:33am
Murray

The national anthem of Saudi is Onward Christian Soldiers Manolo.
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June 27, 2011 9:39am
mikenmild

Manolo

McCarthy notes an American soldier has successfullyavoid service in Afghanistan on the grounds that he should not be required to fight fellow Muslims. I wonder if all the other US Muslims serving there will ask to come home, or whether non-Muslims might convert to Islam to avoid service.
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June 27, 2011 9:50am
Chthoniid

I don’t often link back to my blog- but I’ve responded to the SST on the claim our wildlife is being pillaged by smugglers. There’s some economics and politics content.

http://sciblogs.co.nz/chthonic-wildlife-ramblings/2011/06/26/nz-wildlife-being-pillaged-by-smugglers-really/
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June 27, 2011 9:58am
3-coil

Lipo (7:49am) – “What does it tell you about New Zealand when an overt racist is returned to Parliament with not so much as a wimper from the main stream media….Tells me that the majority of the Northland Maori are racist”

No Lipo – not “the majority”, only the 5611 Mana voters who support the racist Hone (or about 48% of the voters) are racist.
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June 27, 2011 9:59am
reid

The party’s constitution was released and Mana took the opportunity to broadly sketch party policies.

Maori activist and Treaty lawyer Annette Sykes said that she, lawyer Moana Jackson, unionist Mike Treen, Auckland University law professor Jane Kelsey and social justice campaigner John Minto had been working on them together.

Five specific policies would be on the party’s website by the end of the week but a major one was the party’s cost of living policy, which mooted that GST should come off essential services such as power bills.

The policies wouldn’t be difficult to understand even though intellectuals had written them, Ms Sykes said. “It’s really, really simple. We want equality, we want the poor not to be marginalised.”

It’s good they’ll be easy to understand. That’s fairly important specially in their demo. Personally, I’m against equality and I do want the poor to be marginalised. I’d really like it if the poor and downtrodden would just go away and not be around anymore and I blame them for everything. This is the attitude those “intellectuals” really appear to think, some of we conservatives actually have.

Still munting on about the mental idea to remove universal GST I see, this time it’s power bills. What’s next. No GST on fishing licences and boat gear cuz that’s wot us bros like to do a lot?

If the idiots actually made a suggestion that would actually in the real world improve the lot of the people they claim to represent I’d support it in a flash but they won’t, you watch. Instead they’ll pretend the whole system is simply an inherently oppressive regime and freedom must be won through struggle and hardship.

Instead of the mentals for example addressing the appalling lack of education through multiple generations in their core demo for example. What’s their answer for example, to that? Bet it’s somefink like: no-body wants to teach our kids cuz they is poor and carnt afford to pay the teacher eh so that’s why we just let em wander round and do wut they like so we will fix this not by addressing the attitude in the families but by munting round the edges and increasing the number of teachers in the poor areas. This won’t do a fucking thing to help, but bet that’s what their education policy is, when it comes out in a few days…

P.S. Not to mention calling Minto an “intellectual.”
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June 27, 2011 10:10am
mikenmild

Chthnoiid

Like your post. Politicians love to take imaginary problems and promise tougher penalties.
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June 27, 2011 10:11am
Put it away

Hj that old book you cite is pure gold, thanks for posting that.
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June 27, 2011 10:25am
reid

London’s best home:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007919/Move-Buckingham-Palace-Furious-locals-massive-underground-extension-mystery-owner-Londons-incredible-home.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007978/Amazing-video-Jacob-Langston-captures-moment-shark-jumps-surfer-Florida-beach.html
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June 27, 2011 10:40am
Chthoniid

@mikenmild

Thanks, I fear Wilkinson has been captured by the ‘law enforcement is the only way’ crowd.
Smuggling is the inevitable consequence of banning the trade in this wildlife. We’re basically ‘paying’ poachers a bounty to take our wildlife for export. Call me silly, but maybe that’s the policy we should be debating?
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June 27, 2011 10:42am
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

Murray – The national anthem of Saudi is Onward Christian Soldiers

… titled as ‘Al Salam Al Malaki’. The words of this national song was written by Ibrahim Khafaji and music composed by Abdul Rahman Al-Khateeb. However, in 1950 this song was adopted as national anthem of Saudi Arabia.
– http://www.123independenceday.com/saudi-arabia/national-anthem.html
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June 27, 2011 10:45am
Murray

puzzled it is an ironic commentary of the fact the Saudi is very happy to let Christians defend despotism from tyranny for them but enforce strict Muslim observation on those troops.

Do try to think a little less literally.
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June 27, 2011 10:56am
reid

Intelligence operations in the US:

http://quantumpranx.wordpress.com/a-hidden-world-growing-beyond-control/
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June 27, 2011 11:06am
Banana Llama

Reid 10:40 am

Well … His name was jump, the shark.
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June 27, 2011 11:16am
reid

Just heard mental Sue Bradford allege on Monday Politics (RadioLeftWing) that in her considered opinion Thompson’s comments actually do reflect the ethos of those he represents.

Thus again proving the “intellectuals” within Mana are going to be really very funny as they proclaim their “wisdom” over the next few years…
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June 27, 2011 11:24am
Banana Llama

Do you have a clicky link for that Reid?
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June 27, 2011 11:27am
Put it away

Lol – Puzzled, you should start sending corrections to The Onion, they say a lot of things that might not be correct…
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June 27, 2011 11:33am
Banana Llama

Here i will share something interesting with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality

The silver bullet for the entertainment dinosaurs, good luck stopping “IP theft” when that is integrated into sunglasses.
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June 27, 2011 11:33am
nasska

reid @ 11.o6am

What is described in that article is a bureaucracy choking on its self. The reason for its existence has become obscure & it serves no purpose other than to generate reports for other people in the organisation to digest & regurgitate further reports.

A lot like the Ministry of Women’s Affairs.
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June 27, 2011 11:34am
Murray

He’s going to be a busy man PIA.

Who took irony out back and shot it anyway?
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June 27, 2011 11:44am
starboard

“On Saturday, The Press reported that some insurance companies had told red-zone residents they would not cover the replacement cost of a house if it was repairable, even if they had full replacement coverthis time around.”

Yes..bastards. Im not renewing my contents insurance this time around. Ive been paying for 30 years and have only ever made one claim from the e’quake…and they still havent paid me ! I’ll take the risk thanks very much.
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June 27, 2011 12:13pm
reid

Exactly nasska which is a bit of a worry considering its role and function within the US security apparatus, isn’t it…

Do you have a clicky link for that Reid?

Banana:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2492251/politics-from-the-left-and-from-the-right.asx
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June 27, 2011 12:18pm
Murray

Catch upi starboard not paying for inmsurence means you are the scum of society and should be thrown out on to the streets to die according to the morally superior people who pay premiums.

Apparently to make insurance companies rich.
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June 27, 2011 12:19pm
starboard

…yeah but the problem with insurance companies , as Nassak pointed out , they dont like paying out when its required. They put hoops in front of you when you try and claim , add fine print , fuck you around , make you pay ” an excess “.. ( what the fucks that anyway? )..at the end of the day instead of them taking on the risk…I will take on my own. Up ya bum AMI .
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June 27, 2011 12:24pm
Banana Llama

Thanks very much Reid.

Hopefully she doesn’t drive me to drink.
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June 27, 2011 12:30pm
reid

About 11:30m in it starts…
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June 27, 2011 12:36pm
reid

Sue Bradford this morning on radio:

I think that Thompson’s astonishing outburts last week reveal something that a lot of workers already know to their detriment that we actually do continue to have an epidemic of bullying in the workplace by people just like Mr Thompson: Big, bluff, domineering, red-faced Pakeha men throwing their weight around as we saw him doing so outrageously on TV the other night [you know, the Campbell Live edited segment that Brian Edwards says is outrageous disgraceful and journalistically unethical, that one…] and that’s actually going on all the time in the workplace, aimed at workers who aren’t journalists, who don’t have that kind of power, who don’t have any ability to fight back, um, and end up losing whatever they do. And I think Mr Thompson has actually revealed the true face, sadly of far too many New Zealand employers and in some ways why should the EMA sack him he’s actually doing us a favour, by portraying the true face of some employers.

Then she says:

He [Thomspon] states over and over again that he is simply reflecting the ethos of his members.

I wonder if there’s anything actionable in there. Sadly doesn’t look like it, but truly reflective of a towering failure to sort reality from all the other stuff that must be going on inside her head. I mean, crikey.
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June 27, 2011 12:50pm
reid

So for those idiots who think it would be a really neaty idea for us to borrow some cash to use in stimulating economic growth: i.e. the entire Liarbore Caucus, have a look at the data after Obama’s $787 billion stimulus package.

That red line doesn’t look very good, does it? I wonder what that one means?
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June 27, 2011 1:03pm
Banana Llama

That bit got to me as well Reid, if i framed it like this.

That we actually do continue to have an epidemic of violence in society by people just like Mr Hone Hatfield: Big, bluff, domineering, red-faced brown skinned native throwing their weight around as we saw him doing so outrageously on TV the other night.

I get called a racist.

LOL.

A sullen drop in a sullen swell ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
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June 27, 2011 1:10pm
ciaron

Up ya bum AMI

We went past one of their bulidings the other day, looks like it has “taken one for the team”
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June 27, 2011 1:11pm
Murray

Trip to the RRC for that racist Bradford is in order: “Big, bluff, domineering, red-faced Pakeha men throwing their weight around”

To throw it right back at the fucking bitch it tells us a lot about her. Not much about anything else.
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June 27, 2011 1:21pm
mikenmild

Sounds like it’s a draw between Hone and Alisdair – both bullies.
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June 27, 2011 1:25pm
Murray

Good, drop both of them off a cliff, everyones happy/.
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June 27, 2011 1:25pm
reid

No can’t draw that conclusion on the facts I’m afraid, mm.

Hone is, for sure. Thompson, nuh uh.
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June 27, 2011 1:30pm
Longknives

Manolo and Mikenmild- Personally I found Andrew McCarthy a lot funnier in Weekend at Bernies….
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June 27, 2011 1:39pm
RightNow

Sue Bradford: “Big, bluff, domineering, red-faced Pakeha men throwing their weight around”
The hypocrisy, it burns!
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June 27, 2011 2:07pm
reid

The hypocrisy, it burns!

This is the amazing thing isn’t it. That not just her but the whole execrable lot of em can’t fucking see it either. All of them think that because they weally weally care and they’re doing it for the poor and without a voice, that this therefore makes anything they think thereby automatically accrue the forces of truth and justice behind it, no matter what they say, about anything.

It’s so fucking mental I can’t even begin to comprehend it, it’s too fucking enormous, like visualising the entire universe, getting a handle on where they come from is just too fucking hard for me. I give up. It’s all over.

I’m just not capable of descending to the depths of their madness without myself succumbing so therefore, for Mana, I’ll never be able to predict what they’re going to do next for I just can’t bring myself to pretend to think like them, I just can’t, it makes me want to puke AND have explosive diarrhea all at the same time so I’m actually quite happy about my decision.

Quite a relief, really.
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June 27, 2011 2:18pm
tom hunter

Well, well, well.

The next time my SF friend tells me about what she just read in the NYT I’m going to send her this.

“If it’s Kansas, Missouri, no big deal. You know, that’s the dance of the low-sloping foreheads. The middle places, right?

…Did I just say that aloud?

David Carr, New York Times.

Yes. Yes you did.

Muhahahahaha – gosh I laughed.

What. An. Asshole.

Stuff like this is fun to remember the next time some leftie tells you that they have friends in the US who feel really excluded by comments from GOP leaders, people indulging in hateful, exclusionary rhetoric that makes them feel as if they’re not real Americans.

Bye bye NYT – and all the rest.
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June 27, 2011 2:32pm
reid

Good classic movies about newspapers.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/06/beyond-page-one-5-underrated-newspaper-movies/240934/#slide1

Isn’t that interesting…
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June 27, 2011 2:47pm
Inventory2

Cactus Kate has confirmed her application for Act Party candidacy

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/06/is-cactus-acts-prickly-solution-part_27.html
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June 27, 2011 2:52pm
reid

Important fluffy alert:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/5195192/Emperor-penguin-comes-through-surgery

…currently leads the headline on Stuff. It has a complete fully-staffed operating room all to itself. Awwwwwwwwwwww.

Now one naturally expects massive TV exposure tonight, probably live interviews with both Walrus and the boy. I expect the PM will be asked in a demanding tone when the 4500 km flight back to its home territory is planning on leaving.

Just forget about Chch.

That’s not important, anymore.
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June 27, 2011 3:00pm
reid

Plus I bet he just changed his name when he became famous – Happy Feet. I mean FFS. His real name is probably something like Dumb Feet but he lied when he told them what his name was.

I mean he can’t be too clever, can he. He started walking away from his mates and didn’t turn around for 4,500 km. That’s not very brainy, is it.

I bet he doesn’t even have a passport either, but you just watch tonight. Awwwwww, isn’t that cutey wooty.

It’s not fair.
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June 27, 2011 3:09pm
Pete George

I2 – good on her, I think she’ll add something positive to parliamanet and it sounds like she’s taking a very sensible approach – unsurprisngly.
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June 27, 2011 3:16pm
starboard

“The Mana Party says it will travel the country promoting its policies over the next six weeks
Maori activist and Treaty lawyer Annette Sykes said that she, lawyer Moana Jackson, unionist Mike Treen, Auckland University law professor Jane Kelsey and social justice campaigner John Minto had been working on them together”

Cant wait for their public meetings. I’ll be there giving the likes of minto an earful with a loudhailer..bit of his own treatment for once.Mana party.. bunch of racist bleating fucktards…here today , gone tomorrow.
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June 27, 2011 3:42pm
Elaycee

Starboard quoted: “Annette Sykes said that she, lawyer Moana Jackson, unionist Mike Treen, Auckland University law professor Jane Kelsey and social justice campaigner John Minto had been working on them together””

Once they meet up with the MOFO himself, Willie Jackson, Matt McCarten et al, it’ll be the biggest gathering of muppets since Jim Henson’s funeral.
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June 27, 2011 3:46pm
Murray

That is so cruel and harsh.

Approved.
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June 27, 2011 3:49pm
Nookin

“Now one naturally expects massive TV exposure tonight, probably live interviews with both Walrus and the boy.”
Walrus will duck for cover. Doesn’t like being outwitted which is odd-on if he interviews a partially stupefied penguin
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June 27, 2011 3:59pm
starboard

..mite even take one of their shitty little te rango flags along to the meet…crap on it then shoot it like that fat dirtbag iti did to the NZ flag. Speaking of iti..havent heard from the fat little porker for a while..wonder if he’s still breathing.
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June 27, 2011 4:00pm
alex Masterley

starboard, he’s probably boning up on his te reo in anticipation of the big trial. Urewera 17 and all that.
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June 27, 2011 4:05pm
starboard

should never have given ’em a foot in the door. Aussies got the right idea. ( cue gasps of horror from certain handwringing bone carving sickly white liberals on kiwiblog )
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June 27, 2011 4:19pm
reid

Walrus will duck for cover. Doesn’t like being outwitted which is odd-on if he interviews a partially stupefied penguin

Yes it will challenge him Nookin. Hopefully “Happy Feet” will be in a particularly good mood and he won’t harass Walrus and be all difficult. Walrus has probably got the Gaffer out there at the local fish market, right now.
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June 27, 2011 4:24pm
nasska

You’re taking your chances starboard. If “Off White with an Attitude” reads your comment you’ll get a right bollocking & a Taniwha will take up residency in your swimming pool.

Be very afraid.
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June 27, 2011 4:33pm
mikenmild

Anyone see the taniwha item on 60 Minutes last night?
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June 27, 2011 4:35pm
starboard

aw wait til milkymike and rodders get a view..will be howls of outrage and diatribe..venomous spitting and hissy fits..
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June 27, 2011 4:37pm
Murray

Theres a boo hoo moment for all.
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June 27, 2011 4:44pm
Manolo

Anyone see the taniwha item on 60 Minutes last night?

Prime time cartoons?
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June 27, 2011 4:52pm
mikenmild

No, it just reviewed various taniwha cases from the past few years
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June 27, 2011 4:55pm
Elaycee

Comedy Channel 10?

🙂
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June 27, 2011 4:55pm
Rodders

starboard @ 4.37pm said “aw wait til milkymike and rodders get a view…”

Not at all. You will recall what I objected to was this
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/06/general_debate_17_june_2011.html#comment-843346

If objecting to that sort of language makes me a Maori nationalist in your eyes, then so be it.
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June 27, 2011 5:20pm
starboard

taniwha belongs in disneyland . Anyone who honestly believes in such a thing should be locked away for a very long time.
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June 27, 2011 5:25pm
starboard

whats with the selective preaching Wodders..I didnt see you get all offended, object or criticise this loser…

“Black with a Vengeance (214) Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Hone carries the Guide to Righting Past Wrongs By Means of Cash Settlements
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and what do you carry ?
Getting Away With It :The White Muthafuckas Guide to Raping Indigenous Land”
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June 27, 2011 5:31pm
reid

Important fluffy alert update:

Currently listening to the Head of Gastroenterology at Wgtn Hospital who operated, being interviewed by Mary Wilson – “Happy Feet” is… perking up.

Hooray.

Isn’t that good.

I’m sure TV will have the pics, probably more than once. I’m going to tape the whole thing, tonight.
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June 27, 2011 5:31pm
Rodders

starboard – Indeed, because “Black with a Vengeance” is clearly an offensive troll and wants attention (DFTT)
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June 27, 2011 5:35pm
Longknives

“You’re taking your chances starboard. If “Off White with an Attitude” reads your comment you’ll get a right bollocking & a Taniwha will take up residency in your swimming pool.
Be very afraid”

No need to be afraid Starboard- I have learned from Maori ‘Academics’ that Taniwha (unlike Dragons and the Kraken) can be appeased with cash payouts…keep your credit card handy and I’m sure old Horotiu means you no ill harm….
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June 27, 2011 5:35pm
nasska

reid

I dare say that should this geographically challenged bird thrive, the next step will be carting the wretched thing back down to Antarctica at vast expense to the taxpayer. I’d lay odds that the dopey bastard will be sea lion tucker within two days of getting back in the water.

News it may be but people get a bit carried away with this nature in all its glory stuff. Over in my neck of the woods it is near impossible to go for a walk along the shore without stepping in seal shit. I think I preferred much of this wildlife when they were endangered.
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June 27, 2011 5:45pm
starboard

sure sure Rod..but you chose to pick out my comment and be offened by it , not his…you’re a sickly white liberal Rod ..be gone with you back to the strandard !
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June 27, 2011 5:47pm
lilman

Has any one seen or heard from Luc Hansen?
Dont say we scared him off ?
Or is he using a new sign in ?
or is he holidaying in Afganastan still?
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June 27, 2011 5:52pm
Rodders

starboard – you don’t appear to regret saying it though

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/06/general_debate_18_june_2011.html#comment-843904

and btw I don’t follow The Standard .
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June 27, 2011 5:53pm
krazykiwi

Good idea: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8600063/Bright-students-to-get-20000-to-train-as-teachers.html. Note the focus on core skills. No funding for teaching of interpretive dance, twilight golf etc
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June 27, 2011 5:54pm
Rodders

lilman @5.52pm- Luc was here last week (Mossad haven’t caught up with him yet 😉
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June 27, 2011 5:56pm
mikenmild

Rodders

Don’t keep reminding starboard of those offensive posts.
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June 27, 2011 6:01pm
starboard

why would I regret saying anything? I speak openly and honestly…you will never be left wondering , and thats the best way to be Rod. I might offend the likes of you and milkymike…so what?
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June 27, 2011 6:01pm
mikenmild

starboard

You want to make offensive comments and pretend they’re true. Don’t be too surprised if you get called on it occasionally, even on Kiwiblog.
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June 27, 2011 6:06pm
Manolo

it just reviewed various taniwha cases from the past few years.

The taniwha is just Maori fiction used by some iwi to extort money from gullible parties. Plain highway robbery, in other words.
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June 27, 2011 6:10pm
Manolo

The Chinese spread their wings: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/8598998/Enter-the-dragon-to-save-the-euro.html
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June 27, 2011 6:11pm
krazykiwi

Send Mossad to Northcote
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June 27, 2011 6:15pm
mikenmild

Manolo

Just another ancient superstition, like catholicism.
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June 27, 2011 6:16pm
starboard

“offensive comments and pretend they’re true”

..pretend they’re true?…do show me some of these alleged untrue comments please.
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