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June 26, 2011 8:05am
Grant Michael McKenna

The news told of the death of Peter Falk, the actor who played Columbo; he died after battling with Alzheimer’s for years.

Kind of ironic that everyone else knew his killer but he didn’t.
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June 26, 2011 8:12am
Pete George

Haha Grant, very funny.

After the by-election – what’s wrong with Labour, and what’s wrong with Kelvin Davis.
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June 26, 2011 8:14am
Paul Marsden

TV3 have duped us all.

Pip Keanes error of judgement in regards to the selective, on-air Thompson interview, would appear to be 1000 fold that of Alastair Thompson’s.

The damage that has been done to Thompson, his family and the EMA, is immeasurable. Keanes now deserves all the condemnation and scorn NZ can bring to bare on him. Let him now suffer as Thompson has suffered.

I also believe that TV3 have been duplicitous in running their phone poll in tandem with this story, which would have generated thousands of dollars for them. It would appear they have profited by failing to make full disclosure in running the poll, and it is my opinion that they have done so by deception. (perhaps a breach of the Fair Trading Act ??) I for one, feel conned and want my .50 cents back. This could prove awkward for TV3 if the Court found they acted illegally. Anyone from the legal fraternity care to comment?
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June 26, 2011 8:18am
Manolo

What’s going on here? http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10734588&ref=rss
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June 26, 2011 8:20am
Manolo

Animals like these deserve a bullet. What a pair of bastards! http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10734552
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June 26, 2011 8:31am
mikenmild

Paul

What was wrong with that particular phone poll? I thought all TV phone polls were pretty bogus.
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June 26, 2011 8:57am
Inventory2

Let’s reflect on Labour’s record on asset sales. SEVENTEEN state assets sold; most in their entirety. $9.490 billion realised from those sales. Most of the sales took place AFTER Roger Douglas resigned as Finance Minister. And who sat there in Cabinet that whole time, supporting each and every one? Phil Goff. Who joined him in Cabinet for the last year? Annette King.

How can Labour’s Stop Asset Sales campaign have any credibility whatsoever?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/06/now-about-those-assets.html
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June 26, 2011 9:05am
GMDI

Who dressed Paul Holmes on q+a today? Its not just the tie, its how its tied. He looks like an extra on the British office.
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June 26, 2011 9:05am
Falafulu Fisi

Mikenmild, here is collection of good reading links for you, because it is educational too.

Friday morning ramble: The ‘Bleeding Obvious’ edition
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June 26, 2011 9:06am
mikenmild

Thanks Falafulu, some of those look interesting.
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June 26, 2011 9:10am
mikenmild

Manolo

Thanks for that 8.20 post. As if people didn’t already have a low enough opinion of Thompson…
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June 26, 2011 9:12am
hj

“Rick Scott’s decision to reject federal funds to construct Florida’s high-speed rail project was no surprise to observers who knew Scott’s game plan. When Scott appointed Robert Poole as his transportation advisor, it sounded the death knell for any type of non-highway-based mass-transit public transportation projects in Florida during Scott’s administration.
Poole is director of transportation policy at the Reason Foundation, a right-wing lobby group of road-based transportation industrial interests, including petroleum, asphalt and rubber-tire manufacturers. And, not coincidentally, Reason receives substantial funding by the ultraconservative billionaire Koch brothers. David Koch serves as a Reason trustee.
Scott claimed he was rejecting federal funding for Florida’s high-speed rail project based upon a Reason Foundation report of Jan. 6, 2011, authored by Wendell Cox, head of the Wendell Cox Consultancy. Cox claims to be a disinterested, independent transportation consultant, but has long been known as an opponent of rail transit projects and on the roster of the Reason Foundation and other highway promoters such as the American Highway Users Alliance, a pro-highway construction lobby group.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-03-19/news/fl-forum-scott-reason-foundation-20110319_1_high-speed-rail-rick-scott-koch-brothers”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Cox

“I have spelt all this out in “chapter and verse”, year after year, these past 7 years – and Brownlee was the Chairman of Parliaments Commerce Committee Housing Affordability Inquiry back in 2007 / 8 – and understands all this fully. As does Heatley the Housing Minister, who after urging from me, got that Inquiry underway. I also arranged the people for him to meet on the “Study Tour” for Heatley through the United States and the United Kingdom. So he knows Houston well.”
http://www.interest.co.nz/insurance/54008/govt-announces-offer-buy-5100-homes-worst-hit-christchurch-suburbs
http://www.demographia.com/
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June 26, 2011 9:18am
hj

2010 – 2011: Earth’s most extreme weather since 1816?
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
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June 26, 2011 9:34am
tristanb

The boss in trouble for “sexist” comments is now under fire for boasting he asked the Prime Minister about a sexual relationship with a woman unionist.

Maybe he meant Helen Clark?
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June 26, 2011 9:59am
Megatron

Don’t think so tristanb…he was referring to a woman.
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June 26, 2011 10:16am
Pauleastbay

Kind of ironic that everyone else knew his killer but he didn’t.

Grant,

The cleverest comment here for weeks, excellent
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June 26, 2011 10:19am
hj

Tea Party Funding Koch Brothers Emerge From Anonymity
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fenn/2011/02/02/tea-party-funding-koch-brothers-emerge-from-anonymity
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June 26, 2011 10:39am
starboard

“A nine-month-old Hastings girl is in hospital after being seriously injured in an “altercation” between her parents.
Senior Sergeant Luke Shadbolt said the girl was in a serious but stable condition in Hawke’s Bay Regional Hospital after the early morning incident in suburban Flaxmere.
She was injured “as a result of an altercation between her parents”, he said.
Hastings police were investigating and would release no further details”

..candidates for sterilisation..
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June 26, 2011 11:11am
publicwatchdog

MORE broken promises from National and John Key?

This time on the privatisation of state housing assets?

Seen this?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1106/S00319/stop-privatisation-of-state-housing-assets.htm

26 June 2011

PRESS RELEASE: Response from Sue Henry Spokesperson Housing Lobby:
“STOP PRIVATISATION OF STATE HOUSING ASSETS!”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10734409

“Thousands to come off housing list” By Simon Collins Saturday Jun 25, 2011
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“With the continuation of Auckland’s serious housing crisis and families still languishing in sheds, garages and overcrowded and sub-standard accommodation, including those left homeless in Christchurch – the last thing any decent Government should be doing is privatising the state housing stock, using charities such as the Salvation Army and ‘trusts’ in a mixed economy to do it,” says Sue Henry, Spokesperson for the Housing Lobby.

“It is totally unacceptable to have Government policies in the 21st century that create instability, transience and homelessness.

There are several other aspects that are very concerning:

The ‘housing crisis’ will not be fixed by taking people off the waiting list.

Prime Minister John Key promised that there would be no asset sales in this first term of government. This is what John Key promised on 14 April 2008:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0804/S00195.htm
“Transcript: Agenda IV’s John Key
Monday, 14 April 2008, 10:57 am
Article: Agenda

GUYON Alright you rightly point out it was sold by the National government in 1998 now that brings us to this position. What is your position now as a National Party on state asset sales?

JOHN Well National’s had some time to reflect on that and the position that we’ve decided to have is the following one.
That in the first term of the National government there will be no state assets that will be sold either partially or fully.

GUYON So no state assets, you’re completely firm on that?

JOHN That’s right.”
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“But Housing Minister Phil Heatley has said ‘some iwi groups wanted to take over managing state houses rather than buying them, but the Government wanted to sell them.’

Prime Minister John Key is breaking this promise.

The proposed sale of any state housing stock must cease forthwith.”
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Sue Henry
Spokesperson
Housing Lobby
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Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 11:50am
starboard

“EVERYBODY RUN” !!!
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June 26, 2011 11:53am
Elaycee

Yup – there goes the neighbourhood.
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June 26, 2011 12:34pm
Manolo

Penny Dim has arrived! Run for your life.
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June 26, 2011 12:41pm
Manolo

An attempt to stop the scum roaming the streets: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/f-walk-for-free-speech/story-e6frf7jo-1226081882057
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June 26, 2011 12:46pm
mikenmild

Manolo

Wonder if Andrew Bolt was marching with them.
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June 26, 2011 12:59pm
TimG_Oz

Nope… They are bloody hypocrits

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/bloody_hypocrites/
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June 26, 2011 1:04pm
wat dabney

Penny,

You do realise that after the government sells state housing it is still available as accomodation? It doesn’t just disappear down a black hole.

If you do understand that, then it’s not clear what your point is; or if you even have one.
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June 26, 2011 1:16pm
RightNow

“Very early in my career, I made an interesting discovery. Stupid old women were not stupid because they were old. They started off their lives as stupid young women, only people (especially males) tended to be more forgiving.”
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/06/matured-stupidity.html
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June 26, 2011 1:28pm
Pete George

I thought Phil Heatley made a lot of sense with the approach he explained on Q+A this morning. It’s hard to see anyone with common sense arguing with what he’s proposing. Sandra Lee seemed pretty much in agreement, as did the rest of the panel.
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June 26, 2011 1:29pm
hj

Penny,

You do realise that after the government sells state housing it is still available as accomodation? It doesn’t just disappear down a black hole.

If you do understand that, then it’s not clear what your point is; or if you even have one.
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The international property market may as well be a big black hole as far as lower income people are concerned. These people have to compete with Harcourts Shanghai Office (etc).
Of course libertarians think the world is flat and everywhere is buildable (at any height) and when infrastructure charges come up they burst into tears and ask for their rattle.
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June 26, 2011 1:42pm
hj

Wendell Cox’s Voodoo Economics
http://www.cp-dr.com/node/2810
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June 26, 2011 2:00pm
wat dabney

hj,

Sorry, are you saying that NZ housing is shipped-off to China when it gets sold by the state?

I don’t think it is.
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June 26, 2011 2:03pm
hj

hj,

Sorry, are you saying that NZ housing is shipped-off to China when it gets sold by the state?

I don’t think it is.
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No I’m saying it may as well be when NZ property (oops “products”) is marketed to wealthy foreigners and when inward migration becomes an end in itself. The Savings Working Group support this view noting that house prices rise following large influx of migrants but don’t fall so quickly afterwards and that over all incomes don’t increase but decrease due to the need to build highways, tunnels, schools etc. The libertarian angle is to try to show that price increases are due to prescriptive planning because in their view there are no limits (no liquifaction, flood plains or what have you).
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June 26, 2011 2:33pm
hj

PS I’m not against migrants, apart from bad examples like the Choi brothers however having seen developments in real estate in the last 30 years I don’t believe we will preserve an agreeable urban environment without a guiding hand.
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June 26, 2011 2:39pm
wat dabney

hj,

The rental price of a property is set by the market, not the nationality of its owner. So from the renter’s point of view it doesn’t matter if a house is owned by a Kiwi or a “wealthy foreigner” (although surely allowing foreign capital into the rental market can only decrease rents.)
And the traditional complaint in NZ is that buying to rent is effectively subsidised by the absence of a capital gains tax; but the important point here is that, in a competitive rental market, it is the renters who benefit from the cheaper prices here, not the property owners.

And the libertarian view on immigration is simply that it is not for the state to dictate where anyone can live. No one would deny that there an economic impact to the choices made by millions of individuals. Of course there is. But typically increased demand will be met by increased supply, in housing as in anything else. It’s planning restrictions which prevent this and drive up property prices.
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June 26, 2011 2:48pm
nasska

wat

Can you give me any instances when any utility (incl. housing for the sake of argument) has been sold to overseas interests & resulted in the same service being cheaper to NZ residents?
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June 26, 2011 3:11pm
wat dabney

nasska,

I have a question: why do you imagine that domestic owners are any less interested in maximising their profits than foreign ones?
A monopoly is a monopoly. If it’s state owned then you’re forced to pay whatever the state demands; and that may be cheaper than the cost of production or it may function as a stealth tax. It becomes a political issue. That’s never good.

A free market is a price discovery mechanism. If you end up paying more for something after a monopoly is ended then it’s not the fault of the new suppliers; all that’s happened is that you are now exposed to the true costs of production and supply. That’s a good thing.

And when it comes to housing, it isn’t even a utility. Why on earth should the state be in the real-estate business? I think the issue here is simply that state housing is subsidised housing. This simply results in over-consumption – people living in houses which are too big for their needs, thus resulting in an accomodation shortage.
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June 26, 2011 3:50pm
publicwatchdog

26 June 2011

Inventory2 (6,431) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:54 am

Here’s a serious question for Penny Bright. After the Botany by-election, she was forecasting the demise of the National Party based on the low turnout for the by-election, which was entirely expected.

Based on that, does she believe that Hone Harawira has a mandate from the electors of Te Tai Tokerau given that:

* 33% of eligible, enrolled voters turned out to vote, and
* Hone Harawira got less than 50% of the votes cast, and
* On that basis, Hone Harawira is supported by around 16% or eligible Te Tai Tokerau voters?

As I began, this is a serious question. Ought there now be fresh consideration of the abolition of the Maori seats given that this was as high-profile as a by-election gets (far moreso than Botany), yet two-thirds of registered electors were too apathetic to vote? Compared to the Te Tai Tokerau numbers, Jami-Lee Ross’ result in Botany was an absolute landslide.
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errr.. how about some FACTS to underpin your arguably ‘not-so-considered’ opinions ‘Inventory 2’?

1) Most people seem to have completely forgotten about the yet to be counted Te Tai Tokerau 1,916 ‘special votes’.

So – at this stage any talk of Hone Harawira’s majority is arguably premature.

At the moment his majority is 867 over Labour’s Kelvin Davis – but with nearly 2000 votes to be counted – it is highly likely to end up being far greater than that.

2) Voter turnout.
Most people have missed counting the ‘polled’ votes with the ‘special’ votes.

Counting both – the voter turnout in the Te Tai Tokerau 2011 by-election was 41.36%.

Which is significantly more than the voter turnout in the 2011 Botany by-election – which was 36.44%

3) Drop in electorate voter turnout.

Comparison between the Botany and Te Tai Tokerau 2011 by-elections:

Hmmmm………. fascinating that no one else that I know of appears to have discovered this rather significant statistic?

a) In Botany 2008 – the electorate voter turnout was 76.29%
In the Botany by-election 2011 – the voter turnout was 36.44%

(A drop in voter turnout of almost 40%)

b) In Te Tai Tokerau 2008 the voter turnout was 63.25%
In Te Tai Tokerau 2011 the voter turnout was 41.36%

(A drop in voter turnout of almost 22% )

ie: The drop in % voter turnout in the Botany by-election was almost double that of Te Tai Tokerau?

4) Comparison between electorate vote majorities of winning candidates, for Botany and Te Tai Tokerau.

a) 2008 Botany election – Pansy Wong 10,872 majority over Labour’s Koro TAWA
2011 Botany by-election – Jami-Lee Ross 3,972 majority over Labour’s Michael WOOD.
Majority ‘slashed’ by 6,900

b) 2008 Te Tai Tokerau election – Hone Harawira 6,308 majority over Kelvin Davis
2011 Te Tai Tokerau by-election – Hone Harawira 867 majority over Kelvin Davis (1,916 special votes yet to counted?)
Majority ‘slashed’ by 5,541 EXCEPT 1,916 ‘SPECIAL’ VOTES HAVE YET TO BE COUNTED?

5) Comparison between total number of votes cast for winning candidates, for Botany and Te Tai Tokerau

a) 2008 Botany election – Pansy Wong 17,382
2011 Botany by-election – Jami-Lee Ross 8,352

Vote ‘slashed’ by 9,030

b) 2008 Te Tai Tokerau election – Hone Harawira 12,019
2011 Te Tai Tokerau by-election – Hone Harawira 5,611
Vote ‘slashed?’ by 6,408

(EXCEPT 1,916 ‘SPECIAL’ VOTES HAVE YET TO BE COUNTED)
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Comparison of NZH headlines:

John Armstrong NZH – Botany

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10710626

“Botany byelection loss holds silver lining for Labour Party”

John Armstrong NZH – Te Tai Tokerau

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10734620&ref=nzbopt

“Risky tactics leave Hone bruised”
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You can try putting your ‘spin’ machine into turbo drive – but those are the FACTS.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 3:59pm
wat dabney

Penny,

No one’s going to read an autistic collections of links.

If you have a point to make then please make it.
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June 26, 2011 4:03pm
mikenmild

Good post Penny, although I think Inventory’s post was on another thread. Credit where credit’s due, though – you’ve looked at the actual numbers.
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June 26, 2011 4:16pm
nasska

Wat

Market forces as you describe work brilliantly where there is competition. Where that competition doesn’t exist the consumer gets screwed. The housing market is already open to competition but it is worth considering that if say a Singapore Pension Fund buys a parcel of houses the existence of their money in that same market will drive up the price of property which will effect everyone.
I concede that the real arguments re public/private ownership revolve around sale of monopolies where, at least in NZ, private means the consumer should grease up & bend over.

NZ is too small for perfect capitalism.
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June 26, 2011 4:20pm
Manolo

The chief warmists speak: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ted-turner-climate-change-most-serious-m
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57743.html
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June 26, 2011 4:25pm
Rex Widerstrom

Re the “F– Walk” and Bolt’s column mentioned by TimG_Oz above, Bolt says:

I wonder why swearing seems more important to them than being free to talk politics

How can he possibly conclude that? The protestors in Melbourne might not have felt comfortable at Bolt’s upmarket free speech get-together. But their rights to free speech are every bit as important as his. No one should have their rights abridged. Instead of a fit of pique over who did and didn’t show up to support him, Andrew would be better served endeavouring to win them to his cause, while supporting theirs – both of which are worthy.
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June 26, 2011 4:26pm
publicwatchdog

wat dabney (554) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

Penny,

No one’s going to read an autistic collections of links.

If you have a point to make then please make it.
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Can’t you read ‘wat dabney’?

I’ve made a series of points based on the FACTS which I researched myself from the Electoral Commission.

(Which you too could do – if you bothered.)

Or is it ‘wilful blindness’ you are exhibiting – because these FACTS don’t match your not-so-considered opinion?

(Meant of course in a caring way….. 😉

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 4:27pm
Manolo

The hacks at the Dom Post (staunch Labourites) continue their drift to the left: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/5194382/Govt-starting-to-believe-its-press-releases
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June 26, 2011 4:32pm
wat dabney

Penny,

I’m just the messenger.

Sure, if you’re in the middle of a debate and need to provide supporting information then your laboured posting is appropriate. But you’re not.

If you think there’s an issue that people should be aware of then you first need to introduce it in a simple and forceful way with a condensed precis.

Doubtless in your case it’ll be something about how your special-interest public-sector groups should be allowed to carry on raping the public. But the fact remains.

I still don’t know what your posting was about, and I replied to the damn thing.
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June 26, 2011 4:38pm
publicwatchdog

wat dabney (556) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Penny,

I’m just the messenger.

Sure, if you’re in the middle of a debate and need to provide supporting information then your laboured posting is appropriate. But you’re not.

If you think there’s an issue that people should be aware of then you first need to introduce it in a simple and forceful way with a condensed precis.

Doubtless in your case it’ll be something about how your special-interest public-sector groups should be allowed to carry on raping the public. But the fact remains.

I still don’t know what your posting was about, and I replied to the damn thing.
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errr….. other ‘Kiwibloggers’ appear to have not only ‘got it’ – ‘wat dabney’ but have also been appreciative of the research that I’ve done.

Don’t know how I could make those simple points more simply.

Guess my considered opinion is only going to be understood by the ‘brainy’ ones?

😉

“Doubtless in your case it’ll be something about how your special-interest public-sector groups should be allowed to carry on raping the public. But the fact remains.”

errr….. I have NO idea what on earth you are talking about here ‘wat dabney’

A difference in our approach is that I provide FACTS and EVIDENCE to back up my considered opinion.

You might like to try it sometime?

If you are able?

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 4:54pm
BlueGriffon

Just read that one myself Manola. When I noted the author I just rolled my eyes. Anything by that authour is always with a very leftist anti-National bent.

Wonder if he is in the Whales database?
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June 26, 2011 4:55pm
reid

A difference in our approach is that I provide FACTS and EVIDENCE to back up my considered opinion.

Penny I’ve noticed what you do a lot is make an unusual interpretation of whatever bunch of facts you’re looking at, so unusual in fact you often mistake your failure to find evidence to assuage your concern for proof positive the hypothesis is proven, failing to recognise that your failure is due to your inability to connect your hypothesis to the RELEVANT FACTS and EVIDENCE rather than you failed to disprove the null hypothesis.

I hope that helps and you never ever do it again…
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June 26, 2011 5:06pm
mikenmild

Manolo

That column was spot on. Thanks for pointing it out
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June 26, 2011 5:08pm
publicwatchdog

reid (7,647) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

A difference in our approach is that I provide FACTS and EVIDENCE to back up my considered opinion.

Penny I’ve noticed what you do a lot is make an unusual interpretation of whatever bunch of facts you’re looking at, so unusual in fact you often mistake your failure to find evidence to assuage your concern for proof positive the hypothesis is proven, failing to recognise that your failure is due to your inability to connect your hypothesis to the RELEVANT FACTS and EVIDENCE rather than you failed to disprove the null hypothesis.

I hope that helps and you never ever do it again…
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errr….. got some FACTS to back up what you’re saying here ‘reid’?

Or are you just doing an ‘Alasdair Thompson’ and ‘making it up’?

Just because I’ve compiled and compared FACTS and STATISTICS that no one else has bothered yet to do – doesn’t make what I’m saying incorrect.

I hope that helps and you never ever do it again…

(Meant of course in a caring way 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 5:22pm
nasska

Wall, meet reid’s head.
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June 26, 2011 5:33pm
Nookin

Penny
If you are going to refer to an earlier post it is much easier to refer to the name of the poster and the time of the post.
It is not necessary to cut and paste the whole post.

Same with linking. If you want to refer to another web-site, it is so much easier on the eye to create a hyperlink than having to trawl thru endless cut and paste. But then, you have already been told that many times so I guess you don’t give a tinkre’s cuss what anyone else thinks.
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June 26, 2011 5:45pm
Elaycee

@nasska

Only in the Blog Blight’s fantasy world would an election loss (she was spanked in Botany and spanked again on the Howick Ward election) be considered anything but a fail. However, she tries to mitigate her own loss by claiming that a low voter turnout is somehow indicative of a loss of support for Jamie-Lee Ross and for National. I have already provided the FACTS and the EVIDENCE to prove that her version of events is bollocks, but still she comes back with fantasy. Further proof that she is nothing but a total waste of space.

The TTT by-election was an appalling WOFTAM because Hone cost the taxpayer over $500k so he can suck more money this November in the form of a handout for electioneering purposes. What a sick joke.

The irony is that the status of Maori seats themselves will most likely be the subject of a referendum.

Fanbloodytastic.
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June 26, 2011 5:54pm
publicwatchdog

Nookin (943) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

Penny
If you are going to refer to an earlier post it is much easier to refer to the name of the poster and the time of the post.
It is not necessary to cut and paste the whole post.

Same with linking. If you want to refer to another web-site, it is so much easier on the eye to create a hyperlink than having to trawl thru endless cut and paste. But then, you have already been told that many times so I guess you don’t give a tinkre’s cuss what anyone else thinks.
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‘Nookin’
– I prefer to cut and paste the comment so that people can see for themselves the points to which I am responding.
In my view – it is more ‘user-friendly’.

Of course – if you don’t like the information that I am providing – I guess you will continue to whinge and whine about how I am providing the FACTS and EVIDENCE upon which I am relying to substantiate what I’m saying?

You have given me some advice – which I am at liberty to accept – or reject – as I see fit.
Likewise – you have that same right.

FOR EXAMPLE:

You could always choose to ignore my posts – as you often threaten to do?

So – why are you bothering to read this anyway?

Kind regards 🙂

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 5:58pm
nasska

Elaycee

I may be able to offer a simple explanation. The Hadron Collider has accidentally created a portal into an alternate universe, where everything is exactly the opposite of reality…
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June 26, 2011 6:03pm
mikenmild

Elaycee

Any indication that the Maori seats will be the subject of a referendum?
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June 26, 2011 6:03pm
reid

Just because I’ve compiled and compared FACTS and STATISTICS that no one else has bothered yet to do – doesn’t make what I’m saying incorrect.

Penny it does when those FACTS and STATISTICS bear no relationship causal or otherwise, to your hypothesis.

Unfortunately normally you say X is true because of Y but unfortunately it doesn’t actually say that, to most people.

Go figure, but that’s what happens, most of the time, with you…

Kind regards,

reid,
Eastbourne

So – why are you bothering to read this anyway?

I don’t know, Penny. I really just don’t know.
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June 26, 2011 6:05pm
mikenmild

To be fair to Penny, she did make a reasonable post earlier contrasting the TTT results with those from Botany. Haven’t checked her figures of course.
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June 26, 2011 6:05pm
BlueGriffon

You are right Penny, your format is more user friendly. It means the Kiwiblog users can all see the comment is from you and scroll right past it!
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June 26, 2011 6:29pm
nasska

A Wellington Regional Council officer stops at a farm and talks with the old farmer.
He tells the farmer, “I need to inspect your farm for effluent runoff”.
The farmer says, “Okay, but don’t go in that paddock over there”.
The WRC employee says, “Mister, I have the full authority of the Government with me. See this ID card? This card means I am allowed to go WHEREVER I WISH on any agricultural land. No questions asked or answered. Do you understand?”
The farmer nods politely and carrys on with what he was doing.
Shortly, thereafter hears loud screams and sees the local government employee running for his life followed close behind by the farmer’s bull, who’s gaining with every step. He is clearly terrified, and is screaming for help, so the old farmer throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs…
Your ID card arsehole, show him your ID card.
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June 26, 2011 6:57pm
Pauleastbay

Several men are in the locker room of a golf club
A cellular phone on a bench rings and a man engages the
hands-free speaker function and begins to talk.
Everyone else in the room stops to listen.
MAN: “Hello”

WOMAN: “Hi Honey, it’s me . Are you at the club?”
MAN: “Yes.”
WOMAN: “I’m at the shops now and found this beautiful leather coat.
It’s only $2,000. Is it OK if I buy it?”
MAN: “Sure, go ahead if you like it that much.”
WOMAN: “I also stopped by the Lexus dealership and
saw the new models. I saw one I really liked.”
MAN: “How much?”
WOMAN: “$90,000.”
MAN: “OK, but for that price I want it with all the options.”
WOMAN: “Great! Oh, and one more thing. I was just talking to Janie
She told me that the house I wanted last year is back on the
market and they’re asking $980,000 for it.”
MAN: “Well, then go ahead and make an offer of $900,000.
They’ll probably take it. If not, we can go the extra eighty-thousand
if it’s what you really want.”
WOMAN: “OK. I’ll see you later! I love you so much!”
MAN: “Bye! I love you, too.”

The man hangs up. The other men in the locker room are staring
at him in astonishment, mouths wide open.
He turns and asks, “Anyone know whose phone this is?”
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June 26, 2011 7:00pm
Nookin

I didn’t read it Penny. I scrolled on by. As I do for most of your posts.
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June 26, 2011 7:05pm
nasska

Once upon a time there was a stork family – papa stork,
mama stork and baby stork. One evening papa stork didn’t
show up for dinner. Mama stork and baby stork left the food
out for him but he didn’t come home at all that night.

When papa stork finally did come home the next day, baby
stork asked “Papa stork, where were you last night?”

“Out making a young couple very happy,” replied papa stork.

Several weeks later, mama stork was late for dinner. Baby
stork and papa stork waited a while, and then gave up and
ordered pizza. Mama stork didn’t come home until late the
next morning. When mama stork did come in, baby stork
asked “Mama stork, where were you last night?”

“Out making a young couple very happy,” replied mama stork.
Later in the autumn, baby stork was late for dinner. Papa
stork and mama stork were worried. Their anxiety increased
when baby stork still wasn’t home by sunset. They both
waited up late for baby stork but he didn’t come in until
early in the morning. His feathers were rumpled and unkempt.
Papa stork barked, “Where the hell were you baby stork?” as
his tired son dragged himself over the threshold.

“Out scaring the shit out of college students,” replied
baby stork.
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June 26, 2011 7:09pm
Viking2

Every time I start thinking too much
about how I look,
I just find a pub with a Happy Hour
and by the time I leave,
I look just fine.
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June 26, 2011 7:18pm
nasska

A man wakes up one morning, and while still bleary-eyed,
goes to piss. He suddenly realizes that his dick is bright
orange. He hops in the shower, and rubs and scrubs, but it
is still bright orange. “Well,” he thinks to himself “it
doesn’t hurt, and I don’t feel sick, may as well go to
work.”

A few hours later at work, he has to piss again. While
standing in the employees restroom at a urinal, one of his
co-workers happens to look over and see the orange
appendage. “Your dick is orange!” the co-worker exclaims.
To which the man says “I know. It was like that when I woke
up.” “If I were you” says the co-worker, “I’d go see the
company doctor right away.”

Taking his advice, the man goes to the doctor. After
several tests, the doctor says “It’s orange alright! There
is no medical reason that it should be. Did you do anything
unusual this weekend?”

“Nope” the man says. “I just sat around the whole weekend,
watching pornos, and eating Cheezels.”
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June 26, 2011 7:24pm
Manolo

A perv caught red-handed: http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10734549
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June 26, 2011 7:31pm
Steve

There is one way to get rid of a troll with no humour, start the joke roll.
Bye person with funny clothes
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June 26, 2011 7:33pm
reid

In defence of the book:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-to-survive-the-age-of-distraction-2301851.html

and

Last week, China opened its eighth National Intelligence College on the campus of Hunan University in the central city of Changsha

and

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8597485/China-and-Britain-locked-in-cyber-war.html
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June 26, 2011 7:45pm
kingofthejuice

Anagram for Cactus Kate……Eat, Suck, ACT. Go figure.
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June 26, 2011 7:50pm
mikenmild

cake us tact?

c u skate cat?

cat suck tea?

ask tact cue?

cute, ask ACT?

Doesn’t make sense however (dis)ordered
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June 26, 2011 8:03pm
Viking2

Alzheimer’s Test
How fast can you guess these words with missing letters?

1. F_ _K
2. PU_S_
3. S_X
4. P_N_S
5. BOO_S
6. _ _NDOM

Scroll Down for the answers

Answers:
1. FORK
2. PULSE
3. SIX
4. PANTS
5. BOOKS
6. RANDOM

You got all 6 wrong didn’t you?

Well, Congratulations!
You don’t have Alzheimer’s – but you are a pervert…
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June 26, 2011 8:06pm
Viking2

Oysters’ balls are called pearls.
(James age 6)

If you are surrounded by sea you
are an Island . If you don’t
have sea all round you, you are incontinent.
( Wayne age 7)

When you go swimming in the
sea, it is very cold, and it makes my
willy small. (Kevin age 6)

And last but not least;
A dolphin breaths through an arsehole on the top of its head.(Billy age 8)

MMM sounds like someone we know.!
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June 26, 2011 8:10pm
reid

You got all 6 wrong didn’t you?

No I got them all correct immediately, V2. I mean, what the fuck else was F_ _K going to be, FFS?
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June 26, 2011 8:11pm
Hurf Durf

So a new dawn is, um…dawning for the Mana Party and its motley crew of unreconstructed Maoists, classists and racists. Martyn “Durrrr” Bradbury must be very pleased. I wonder if it’ll keep itself together long enough to contest the general election halfway competently before it inevitably turns on itself? Tune in tomorrow to find out!
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June 26, 2011 8:25pm
nasska

A husband walks into Victoria ‘s Secret to purchase a sheer negligee for his wife. He is shown several possibilities that range from $250 to $500 in price — the more sheer, the higher the price. Naturally, he opts for the most sheer item, pays the $500, and takes it home. He presents it to his wife and asks her to go upstairs, put it on, and model it for him.
Upstairs the wife thinks (she’s no dummy), ‘I have an idea. It’s so sheer that it might as well be nothing. I won’t put it on, but I’ll do the modeling naked, return it tomorrow, and keep the $500 refund for myself.’
She appears naked on the balcony and strikes a pose.
The husband says, ‘Good Grief! You’d think for $500, they’d at least iron it!’
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June 26, 2011 8:35pm
kingofthejuice

Mikenmild, true, but anagrams are like metaphors. They only go so far. Got one for Alasdair Thompson…..Satan sold morphia. Cathy Odgers……. hasty codger
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June 26, 2011 8:35pm
Elaycee

My wife sat down on the couch next to me as I was flipping channels. She asked, ‘What’s on TV?’ I said, ‘Dust.’
And then the fight started…

I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road and slowly the other driver got out of his car. You know how sometimes you just get soooo stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah, well I couldn’t believe it…. He was a DWARF!!! He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, “I AM NOT HAPPY!!!” So, I looked down at him and said, “Well, then which one are you?”
And then the fight started…..

My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary. She said, ‘I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3 seconds.’ So I bought her a scale.
And then the fight started…

I took my wife to a restaurant. The waiter, for some reason, took my order first. “I’ll have the strip steak, medium rare, please.” He said, “Aren’t you worried about the mad cow? Nah, she can order for herself.”
And then the fight started…

A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, ‘I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.’ The husband replies, ‘Your eyesight’s damn near perfect.’
And then the fight started…..
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June 26, 2011 9:10pm
mikenmild

My wife and I are watching “Who Wants To Be A Millionaire” while we were in bed.. I turned to her and said, “Do you want to have sex?”
“No,” she answered.
I then said, “Is that your final answer?”
She didn’t even look at me this time, simply saying, ”Yes.”
So I said, “Then I’d like to phone a friend.”

And then the fight started….
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June 26, 2011 9:22pm
Hurf Durf

What the hell? Were they in a WWE cage match?

A nine-month-old Hastings girl suffered serious head injuries during a fight between her parents early this morning, police say.

STONNNNNE COLLLLLD STUNNNNNNNNNNNNNER!

I hope they were brawlin’ to some Guile’s Theme.
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June 26, 2011 9:49pm
publicwatchdog

Elaycee (523) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

@nasska

Only in the Blog Blight’s fantasy world would an election loss (she was spanked in Botany and spanked again on the Howick Ward election) be considered anything but a fail. However, she tries to mitigate her own loss by claiming that a low voter turnout is somehow indicative of a loss of support for Jamie-Lee Ross and for National. I have already provided the FACTS and the EVIDENCE to prove that her version of events is bollocks, but still she comes back with fantasy. Further proof that she is nothing but a total waste of space.

The TTT by-election was an appalling WOFTAM because Hone cost the taxpayer over $500k so he can suck more money this November in the form of a handout for electioneering purposes. What a sick joke.

The irony is that the status of Maori seats themselves will most likely be the subject of a referendum.

Fanbloodytastic.
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errr…. ‘Elaycee’

If I am such a ‘waste of space – why on earth oh GORMLESS one – do you even bother responding to my posts?
(sigh…………)

Hone Harawira resigned from the Maori Party in order to get a ‘mandate’ for the ‘Mana Party’.

Both Winston Peters and Tariana Turia took that ‘by-election’ step before NZ First and the Maori Party contested the 1993 and 2005 general elections.

The Botany by-election, and subsequent Howick Ward by-election arguably caused the wasting of far more taxpayer and ratepayer monies than the Te Tai Tokerau by-election.

At least Hone wasn’t forced to resign over allegedly corrupt practices as was former National Party MP Pansy Wong – whose effectively forced resignation caused the ‘waste’ of taxpayer and ratepayer monies in the Botany and Howick Ward by-elections?

( Prime Minister John Key is coming across as a VERY mean-spirited ‘poor sport’ – in trying to denigrate Hone Harawira’s Mana Party ‘mandate’ from the Te Tai Tokerau electorate.

John Key’s rather desperate endorsement of Kelvin Davis probably helped Hone more than it did Kelvin?

😉

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 9:50pm
publicwatchdog

BlueGriffon (129) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

You are right Penny, your format is more user friendly. It means the Kiwiblog users can all see the comment is from you and scroll right past it!
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Nookin (944) Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

I didn’t read it Penny. I scrolled on by. As I do for most of your posts.
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DUH?

So why are you both even bothering to comment?

You are both truly pathetic.

Bet you (like ‘reid’) just won’t be able to help your dopey selves – and will reply to this post? 🙂

Come on!

SAY NOTHING!!!!

I dare you………………

😉

Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
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June 26, 2011 10:32pm
Nookin

I will respond Penny because when I engage in debate, I usually continue. I noted your post with cut and paste. I did not bother reading it. I find the practice tiresome as do most people who post here. So I commented. Of course I read your response. It was a response to a comment that I made to and to which I expected a response. You asked why I read the first post. The answer, as I said, is that I did not. Yet again you twist events you suit your own warped sense of logic. And for the record, I still haven’t read that post.
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June 27, 2011 7:44am
Elaycee

@ Penny Bright, who said: “If I am such a ‘waste of space – why on earth oh GORMLESS one – do you even bother responding to my posts? (sigh…………)”

You idiot. I didn’t respond to you. When I write “@nasska” it means I am directing a comment to nasska. Not to you.

Lift your game.
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