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May 6, 2011 8:00am by David Farrar

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magic bullet

Yeah who needs evidence-based judicial process when you’ve got pictures of a dead arab to jack-off over. This thread provides example after example of people who have been used and consumed by hate and fear. Shells of people.
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May 6, 2011 11:29pm
Hurf Durf

evidence-based criticisms

Oh, you.

Don’t worry, OBL’s not really dead. He’s just been transferred to the CIA safehouse in Paraguay housing Adolf Hitler and Slobodan Milosevic.
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May 6, 2011 11:31pm
reid

Kinda looks like the decision to kill him was made before they had even arrived at his compound.

Well duh mb.

So what?
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May 6, 2011 11:33pm
Zapper

Seriously, go and live in the middle east. Or are you all bullshit?
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May 6, 2011 11:35pm
Zapper

That was rhetorical by the way.
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May 6, 2011 11:35pm
magic bullet

Hurf:

Yeah – and i bet you’re one of those moon bats who believe that the majority of published climate scientists are in on a big communist conspiracy. Oh sweet irony.

BTW – i’m quite sure he’s dead. Like I said, he knew more than a few damaging things about a number of figures in the US power elite.
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May 6, 2011 11:37pm
magic bullet

Zapper – time for your bedtime anti-psychotic pills. Make yourself a nice warm glass of milk too. There’s a good boy.
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May 6, 2011 11:41pm
reid

The Chinese would be keen to give it a crack.

Makes sense, some kind of spotter drone.
The burnt out wreckage of a chopper would also be sitting in the middle of the compond.

Yeah but Caleb:

The Seals reportedly tried to destroy it. Either the alloys resisted or that aspect didn’t happen.

The US obviously didn’t have a backup plan to recover the obviously-secret technology in the event of an accident after going into harm’s way – super-fucking-mental-der-x-eleventy-gajillion – or it was just a plastic Tamiya model cleverly deployed to confuse the enemy.

Given what Pakistan is and would predictably be by the US State Dept after this raid, years of R&D and literally I guarantee billions of dollars of research dollars have just been saved by America’s deadliest enemies through this monumental fuckup.
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May 6, 2011 11:44pm
Hurf Durf

who believe that the majority of published climate scientists are in on a big communist conspiracy.

Nah. I just think they’re a bunch of cockends.

Like 9/11 troofers are.
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May 6, 2011 11:46pm
Zapper

MB: I do enjoy an argument with a 14 year old who quotes from his favourite conspiracy website. It’s good to unleash on a complete retard from time to time. I don’t blame you really, I’m sure there will be a time on your life when you’ll pretend you weren’t quite so easily led.
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May 6, 2011 11:47pm
Nookin

mb
You are confusing democracy with justice. They are not the same. Rather than sling off at people on the other side of your political spectrum, can you tell me whether there is a point at which someone passes beyond the protection of legal process? For example, if NATO intended to knock Ghadaffi off his perch,were they justified? If they had succeeded and the bombing of civilians who only wanted democracy stopped,would his killing be justified? If so, where on the continuum would the killing become unjustified? Another point to ponder. Assume that Osama had been taken and tried. Would it have been under civilian or military law and either way how would you deal with the fact that his arrest was, in effect, an unlawful abduction? Do you overlook that ïllegality? If so,where on the continuum you you stop overlooking an illegality?

I am not going to mourn his passing and I do not see that there were many other options.
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May 6, 2011 11:51pm
magic bullet

“It’s good to unleash on a complete retard from time to time”

Really? I think being nasty to a person like you is just kicking a cripple – but then again, most cripples won’t try to run over your foot with their wheel-chair..
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May 6, 2011 11:51pm
Zapper

Well that’s not the caring attitude I’d expect from a “lefty”…but it’s exactly the hypocrisy I expect 🙂
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May 6, 2011 11:56pm
magic bullet

Well you’re obviously an angry soul zap – whoever you are. You’re right that i’ve done a poor job of ignoring your random outbursts of projected, unprocessed emotions though.
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May 6, 2011 11:59pm
magic bullet

oh – you wanted me to “unleash” on you. Sorry – but i don’t think i’m the person for you zap. One day you might learn that you don’t use anger and hate – they use you.
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May 7, 2011 12:08am
magic bullet

Nookin

I’d say if you can take them alive, you most certainly should do so. The judicial process is there, in part, to shed light on the dark areas of life, so we can fix them. So any person that is for the rule of truth should be critical of Bin Laden’s shooting. I doubt you could take Gaddafi alive though, so that’s a different story.
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May 7, 2011 12:27am
Inky_the_Red

Scotland now has a good chance of ridding its English chains. The SNP have a Majority, Tories, Labour and Lib Dems big losers

Hopefully soon there will be the Republic of Scotland
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May 7, 2011 12:32am
Marduk

I’ve come to this blog for the first time tonight researching feedback on a news story from last year. Then I thought I’d read what’s been posted today in general…

Nice to see magic bullet and Reid prepared to say something positive about Penny Bright’s willingness to contribute while others busy lambasting and baiting her.

This baiting illustrates why I don’t usually frequent open online discussions. There’s usually someone thinking they’re cleverer and funnier, while revealing the opposite; usually a few who are haters and self-righteous with it, whose attempts at humour are so poor.

Extracts below are examples of one person’s antagonism through this day’s blog. It gets worse as the night goes on! This common behaviour is why I seldom participate in open forums. Surely I’m not the only one who leaves when discussion turns this nasty?

Clinically insane
Delusion
Batshit crazy
Get f**ked. I don’t give a f**k
You’re a f**king batshit crazy lunatic
Are you all bullshit?
Time for your bedtime anti-psychotic pills…There’s a good boy
14 year old… complete retard
exactly the hypocrisy I expect…

– Marduk
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May 7, 2011 12:34am
magic bullet

Why does the kiwiblog comment count keep saying that i’ve posted 666 comments. That can clearly only happen once. Is David Farrar trying to subliminally attach my pseudo name to evil? He is a crafty one. 🙂

Oh i see – scratch that – all previous posts number’s tick over with each additional comment. Phew – thought i was being fucked with there for a moment. lol.
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May 7, 2011 12:35am
Manolo

What if this happens?

Greece Considers Exit from Euro Zone

Greece’s economic problems are massive, with protests against the government being held almost daily. Now Prime Minister George Papandreou apparently feels he has no other option: SPIEGEL ONLINE has obtained information from German government sources knowledgeable of the situation in Athens indicating that Papandreou’s government is considering abandoning the euro and reintroducing its own currency.

Alarmed by Athens’ intentions, the European Commission has called a crisis meeting in Luxembourg on Friday night.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,761201,00.html
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May 7, 2011 5:54am
Pete George

Why does the kiwiblog comment count keep saying that i’ve posted 666 comments.

Maybe it was a sign. The conspiracy is out there.
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May 7, 2011 7:05am
alex Masterley

The Scots will have a nasty surprise if they become independant.
There is a net cash flow north from England. If that stopped taxes would rise in the north to meet the costs. then most of the buggers would move south to avoid those taxes, leaving the unemployed, te unemployable and the SDP.
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May 7, 2011 8:10am
Zapper

WHat a great contribution marduk. I suggest not going to the trouble of posting if you don’t want to.

magic bullet is all of those things you listed. That is all.
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May 7, 2011 11:03am
krazykiwi

@Manolo – That is interesting..!
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May 7, 2011 11:05am
rouppe

Penny Bright at May 6th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

You attributed that comment to Arthur Dent. Actually it was me who made that original comment.

Once again you have resorted to the Nazi throw-away line. My parents grew up in occupied Netherlands so don’t talk to me about brown-shirts you ignorant weasel. You perpetuate the lie that the Nazi party was politically right-wing.

As anyone who can read will know, it was formed as a left-wing party, from a conglomeration of other left wing parties, with a basis of blue-collar workers and disaffected activists. Much like the Mana Party.

The Nazi Party also hated almost all other parties, even politically similar ones such as the Communists. They were the first to be marched off, well before Hitler moved on to the Jews.

If Valerie Morse had burned the flag in her own back yard, or some place other than an ANZAC ceremony there’d be less of an issue. None of the people at those ceremonies glorify war. Most of them hate it but were required to go by their government. The remembrance is about lost comrades and the futility of war, not the glorification of it. The disrespect shown by her act would be similar to someone having a party at her child’s funeral, brought about by a drunk driver. Would that cause offence. Naturally. What she did is no different.
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May 8, 2011 9:29am
Nookin

Thank you Rouppe. Well said and with substance — unlike PB’s repeated Nazi analogies
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May 8, 2011 9:34am
Lee01

Magic Bullet opines:

“he may have had a few embracing things to say about some US establishment insiders. There are so many mysteries that could have been cleared up over the course of the trial.”

Not really. There are no mysteries here except in your own imagination, as we have already proven.

Bin Laden was once asked in the only interview he ever gave if had ever recieved any help in any form from the US (in terms of the war against the Soviet occupation) and he answered that not only had he not done so, he would never accept any.

Move on MB, we have already exposed the fact that your a fraud and your constant claims of conspiracy have no factual basis.
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