General Debate 1 April 2011

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smttc

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April 1, 2011 8:05am
Banana Llama

Of April.
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April 1, 2011 8:07am
smttc

I see Bevan Hamlin of the Corrections Assn is up to his usual shit stirring ways over the imminent banning of smoking in prisons. Why the media bother to give oxygen to this prick i will never know.
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April 1, 2011 8:08am
Jimbob

Rod Oram was on morning report this morning rabbiting on about what we must do to fix the economy. He mentioned that productivity has to improve markedly for NZ to grow it’s way out of trouble. This can not be driven home enough into the Government and the people running the major exporters in NZ. But it always falls on deaf ears. Until there is a will, there will never be a way. We seem to be stuck in a socialist rut that prevents any progress, so John Key and Bill English need to put their thinking caps on and solve the problem, because no one else has the leadership to do so.
Also there is a conference on in Wellington at the moment for the bleeding obvious, climate changes. It has for six billion years and we do not need nut jobs to stand up and tell they have found something new.
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April 1, 2011 8:18am
Pete George

Slain teen’s path began with Moon Man

Slain teen Lachan Kelly-Tumarae was flown from Christchurch to Hastings by his mother because she was worried about “Moon Man” Ken Ring’s predictions of another big earthquake.

I suspect his path began some time before the moon nonsense. His mother doesn’t buy it either, but it can’t make her feel great…

She said she did not hold anyone accountable. “When people speak out about what they see in the future, we need to take steps to take care of ourselves.”

Obviously Ring cannot be blamed for this tragic event, and neither can all those who helped generate the fear from his vagueness. But it does show how small things can affect the course of events which can lead to to fateful outcomes. The Ringerfly effect?
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April 1, 2011 8:19am
Murray

What a usless weakass peiece of shit journalism that shit is. Unless “moon man” went round to the little punkc house and forced him at gunpoint to go out and get into an armed confrontation with the cops the shit journaist should be fired on the spot.

Closely follwed by the lazy editot who let this crap through.
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April 1, 2011 8:23am
Manolo

The incompetent nutter Smith seems determined to bankrupt the country with his green policies. No, it’s not an April’s Fools joke.

How can the National Party have this clown as one of its members? It says a lot, doesn’t it?

The Government has confirmed it wants greenhouse gases cut to half the level they were at in 1990 within the next 40 years.

Climate Change Minister Nick Smith said the Government was formally adopting a 2050 target for emissions to be 50 per cent below the level they were at two decades ago. He said the target would require major changes to the economy, but struck the right balance.

”It has New Zealand doing our fair share and is comparable with the targets set by our major trading partners.”

Smith said it was important to set a long-term target for cutting emissions to provide certainty about where climate change policy was going.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/4831693/Government-confirms-greenhouse-gas-goal
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April 1, 2011 8:25am
Pete George

Anger at killer’s sentence – seems to have become a standard media ritual after every major sentencing, report the inevitable. These reports have zero balance, they are only designed to highlight and benefit from obviously emotional family – unless they also want to try and promote the “throw away the key” mentality.

(Before the knee jerkers jump to conclusions I’m not judging the appropriateness of the sentence, I’m commenting on the inappropriateness of the headlining of grief).
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April 1, 2011 8:33am
K.Reed

The media have become the new Inquisition. If they come knocking, do not say anything… run away! If you refuse to answer questions, they’ll set up a biased on-screen trial, populated only by your critics. I see John Campbell is claiming credit for a scheduled commerce commission report into the price of milk, so now he’s started on beef prices. Next, I imagine, will be fish. This isn’t entirely what was in mind, when the term Fourth Estate was concieved.
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April 1, 2011 8:45am
hj

“But while New Urbanism is making strides at the level of the neighborhood, we still spend most of our time at home, which today means seeing no one other than our nuclear family. How could we widen that circle just a bit? Not a ‘60s commune (“pass the brown rice, comrade, and don’t forget your shift cleaning the toilet ”), but good neighbors with whom we share more than a property line.

That’s an idea Seattle-area architect Ross Chapin has explored for many years, and now showcases in an inspiring and beautiful new book: Pocket Neighborhoods: Creating a Small-Scale Community in a Large-Scale World.

He believes that groupings of four to twelve households make an ideal community “where meaningful ‘neighborly’ relationships are fostered.” But even here, design shapes our destiny. Chapin explains that strong connections between neighbors develop most fully and organically when everyone shares some “common ground”. ”
http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-design-a-neighborhood-for-happiness
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April 1, 2011 8:46am
Bobbie black

I tell ya Kiwi journos are out of control.

They print or run whatever shit they want these days.

They are clever though, with the economic crisis they know nobody can afford to sue their diabolical asses, which sadly is their only deterrent.

It is time for NZ to at least strengthen their defamation laws on a par with UK to punish these pieces of dirt, making money out of other people’s misery with little or no professional or moral responsibilty.

And Kiwis need no win, no fee defamation lawyers.

That would scare the sensational soiled panties off them.
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April 1, 2011 8:49am
Luc Hansen

FFS

Hurf Durf emailed me to say he has found God and given up booze, P, AND, the worst cut of all, Kiwiblog!

Now who am I going to argue with (knowing I will always win :-))?
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April 1, 2011 9:01am
hj

In the Built Environment, the Tyranny of the Big, the Beauty of the Small
Simply put, we have let things get way out of hand by distorting scale. Our tendency to oversize says more about our egos than our wisdom; our lust for power generates a craving for big things.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/in-the-built-environment-the-tyranny-of-the-big-and-the-beauty-of-the-small
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April 1, 2011 9:07am
Inventory2

Why does the CTU look at the 90-day glass as 20% empty? It’s actually 80% full!

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/04/20-empty-or-80-full.html
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April 1, 2011 9:15am
kowtow

TV news last night showed Brown and co opening a session of Council with a song or hymn,possibly in Maori. Can any one throw any light on this?
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April 1, 2011 9:17am
Komata

Interesting to hear (on 0.600 RNZ Morning Report) one D Cunnliffe wailing about the shear unfairness of the Government in ‘loading the Productivity Commission with Right -wing Ideologs’.

How dare the National Party (who are merely the democratically-elected Government of New Zealand) do such a thing – everyone KNOWS that the only ideologs who actually KNOW anything, are LEFT-WING ones (and that he’d have some snide retort to any Nat’ MP who made such a comment after Labour had ‘Loaded’ the Commision with their own ‘stooges’).

Mr Cunnlife still doesn’t seem to understand that Labour actually LOST the 2008 General Election. One can but hope that, since reinforcement of this fact is evidently greatly needed, he will receive it on November 26 . . .
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April 1, 2011 9:21am
joana

A group of wealthy overpaid wallys are being asked to find out why NZ house prices have risen..Is this a joke? House prices have risen because of wholesale immigration in many cases by wealthy people who could afford to pay a lot more for houses than NZers could. Questions were seldom asked re where these people got there wealth. Significant numbers of Asians got their wealth thru their association with Asian gangs. Asian business and Asian gangs are hand in glove.
Meanwhile , a whole generation of NZers have been forced into either a lifetime of crippling debt or a lifetime of paying rent. Modern day NZ is the playground of wealthy foreigners..Roll on tent cities.
Other experts who actually have credibily said as much in a recent report..Why the duplication?
And as for productivity in Aussie..it is higher because of all the NZers there..Some Aussies will tell you that Kiwis and Philipinos are the hardest working people in Aussie. Awhile back , I recall reading that NZers were the highest earning income group over there..Twenty years ago , Sri Lankans were the highest earners in NZ…so many doctors. Which group is the highest earning group in NZ currently?
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April 1, 2011 9:30am
Yvette

“Slain teen’s path began with Moon Man”

This krap journalism is offensive not only for trying to link 19-year-old man Lachan Kelly-Tumarae to King Ring, but for describing him as a ‘slain teen’.
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April 1, 2011 9:32am
Longknives

The link between the ‘slain’ gunman and Ken Ring is tenuous to say the least. Though I’m sure our media’s natural next step will be to have Deb Webber come out and claim she knew this was all going to happen…
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April 1, 2011 9:37am
Bobbie black

@Yvette, that’s a VERY good point when considering this:

Thesaurus Legend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms

Noun 1. slain – people who have been slain (as in battle)

Adj. 1. slain – killed; `slain’ is formal or literary as in “slain warriors”; “a picture of St. George and the slain dragon”

Oh, I get it now, Once Were Warriors.

The guy was obviously a warrior and in battle.

Right, whatever idiot journo wrote that POS article.
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April 1, 2011 9:56am
Luc Hansen

Robbie said:

That would scare the sensational soiled panties off them.

Hey Robbie, that’s a bit close to home for me. I walked up the stairs this morning after a hard day’s night to find a two year old proudly pointing at her nappied bum and saying: “Dad, Pooh! Pooh, Dad.” And she led me off for her to be changed. And wtf did she eat yesterday? God, it was a bad one!
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April 1, 2011 9:56am
big bruv

The sickest April fools joke of all is that all beneficences and bludgers receive a pay rise today.

So while those of us in the private sector keep tightening our belts those who rely on the tax payer for their income are immune from the recession.

Nice one Neville Key.
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April 1, 2011 10:02am
Bobbie black

OMG Luc has a sense of humour!

You will enjoy this one then too Luc, kind of sucky but I got a kick out of it and I haven’t even created one of the little blighters/demons/aliens/weird little people yet:

http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/family-parenting/twin-babys-conversation-is-viral-hit-blog-53-yahoo-lifestyles.html
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April 1, 2011 10:04am
Viking2

Hey BB, its all good when you get to 65 and are still slaving away. That extra is really very nice. So hurry up and get older, only we are going to shift the goal posts for you. to 70.. Haha.
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April 1, 2011 10:20am
Viking2

Scientific support for Ken rind and its not an April 1 thing cause its still Marchwhere it comes from.

Gravity forces on the earth taken from outer space.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/4836181/Gravitys-impact-on-Earth-revealed-in-brilliant-colour
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April 1, 2011 10:22am
Bobbie black

I just bought a BIC surfboard.

I ordered it online for 280 Euros and it was delivered for free 2 days later, today.

A 7 foot 3 Inch Mini Mal.

Now I see BIC I realise, it is BIC, maker of pens and lighters.

The thing is it looks great.

Great shape, lightweight, of course the proof will be in the pudding when I test it out at Guincho in Portugal in two weeks.

My God, BIC, now making surfboards.

Does anyone know their history?
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April 1, 2011 10:23am
Bobbie black

By the way, surf’s up in Munich.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTTct6xBIc8
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April 1, 2011 10:26am
Bobbie black

@Viking2 – well realistically, my gf won’t pop a District 9 out until about 2015, I will be about 50 then, geez, you sure know how to depress a guy on schnapps.
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April 1, 2011 10:32am
Viking2

75 for you then. Less booze more work.
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April 1, 2011 10:39am
david

@joanna
you appear blind to the real cause. No wealthy people are going to waltz in and offer more (thus bidding up the price) unless they have limited options. The housing market is one of the purest forms of the expression of Supply and Demand in action and no amount of wailing about rich “other people” interfering will change that. Supply has been restricted by our arcane and nonsensical planning system that constrains the amount of land made available (i.e. zoned) for Residential purposes while Demand has increased through immigration and population migration.

You also cannot discount the fact that we are in a global market where perceptions of relative price become reality in purchasing decisions. Haning said that, rich people do not get rich by spending more than they need to, they spend what they have to to attain their objectives.

An awful lot of people have an immense investment in protecting the system from land bankers to developers to urban planners and legislators. This simple fact is that if supply was lifted, the price mechanism would operate at the level of cost + profit margin and again the lower limit on that is set by the planners and regulators who make it extremely expensive to build houses.

Remove that constraint with lower regulated costs and the lower limit would be established by reference to material. land and labour costs and so on.

Since the Leaky Homes thing blew up, there is a great reluctance to allow deregulation and a more laissez faire approach to occur.

One other factor that is often overlooked is that everyone wants the 4 bedroom + study brick and tile with section as their first home and that is also the matrket where the more wealthy purchasers dwell.
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April 1, 2011 10:39am
Luc Hansen

Good vid Bobbie!

Their problem is the missing sock and how they will explain that one to the oldies! See how the kid with his back to the wall lifted his foot to show his problem?

My two boys were only 25 mths apart and slept in the same room from an early age. We used to listen outside their room after they had been put to bed and they were having baby talk conversations…so funny.
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April 1, 2011 10:40am
Bobbie black

@Viking2, there I was thinking it would be the other way around.

Hey whatever happened to Grumpyoldhori, didn’t seem to be banned, just disappeared?

Never mind, out for a while, back later.

Out.

Oh yeah the missing sock, got that now, thanks Luc.
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April 1, 2011 10:43am
Bryla

I tell you it’s completely, totally 110% SAFE. ABC news reports this morning that

“The level of radioactive iodine in the sea off Japan’s disaster-hit Fukushima nuclear plant has soared to its highest reading yet at 4,385 times the legal limit, the plant operator said. The level of iodine-131, reported a few hundred metres south of its southern water outlet, has risen in a series of tests since last week. Previous readings taken by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) were 1,250 times the legal maximum on Friday, 1,850 times the limit on Saturday and 3,355 times the limit on Tuesday.”

Not only SAFE, but abundant and rising fast. Where can I get one of these reactors for my home?
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April 1, 2011 10:47am
Pete George

Scientific support for Ken rind

I don’t see how that supports him – Ring bases his opinions on smatterings of scientific knowledge but what he does is not scientific.

I notice that the world is still having earthquakes, and it’s well past the 20th March. A 6.2 near Honshu and a 6.4 near Fiji in the last 24 hours, an a 5.0 near White Island on the 28th, plus heaps of smaller ones all over the place.
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April 1, 2011 10:49am
The Hoff

Someone at the Dominion Post should lose their job for this…
http://wp.me/p1rzNS-6l
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April 1, 2011 10:56am
Bobbie black

Yeah, sure, find out the “journalist’s” name and make their life a living hell just as they did, trial by internet.

It is fair justice.

You attack someone in the media and have the power to do it just because you can, then allow equally the power of the internet to react against you and your family.
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April 1, 2011 11:02am
Bobbie black

The only difference is the internet are not doing it for sensationalism and more importantly money, just fairness and justice, revenge at worst.

That will make journalists, the scum of the Earth, think twice before typing.
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April 1, 2011 11:07am
Bobbie black

Having said that though internet are still losing the war.

Why do I say this?

Just look at the suppresssion order made against DPF and that guy Penny was raving on about.

Seen any mainstream journos held in custody lately?

Or blogs winning injunctions against established news media sources for future potential breaches of suppression orders?

It is a new war.

Blogs against established journos.

Guess who will win?

🙂
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April 1, 2011 11:22am
tristanb

Scientific support for Ken rind and its not an April 1 thing cause its still Marchwhere it comes from.

Umm, just to clarify things for the scientifically ignorant: Ken Ring did not discover gravity.
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April 1, 2011 11:28am
Bobbie black

Find out who wrote that ridiculous Dominion Post article, then the fun begins, internet style.
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April 1, 2011 11:32am
Sofia

Of course in fleeing Christchurch because of the Ring predictions, if the 19-year-old man’s mother, Mereheeni Tumarae, had arranged that he ride the motorbike north rather than her, he would have been the one in Kaikoura on the Monday to hear of his mother being killed in the police confrontation?
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April 1, 2011 11:37am
Bobbie black

Find out, who are writing the shit, name them, the standard of journalism will improve by about 500% guaranteed.

Teach them that lying and sensationalism will hurt them and their families, that will teach them to print or run the truth.
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April 1, 2011 11:41am
bereal

This bloke Meads (sentenced to 11 years for executing his wife) probably thinks
he got a pretty good deal from “Justice” Christopher Allan.
If Meads is worth unwards of $40 million he could have owed his ex $20 million
had a divirce gone through. (thankyou Margaret Wilson) When he whacked his cook
he saved himself $20 million or about $2 million each year of his sentence.

In the same edition of the NZ Herald (A3) a bloke in Kaitaia got 7 years and 3 months
for bashing his elderly neighbour.

One of the above sentences appears reasonable and one is a laughable travesty of
justice and an insult to all New Zealanders. You choose.

PS neither is an April Fool joke. Maybe “justice” Allan is the real joke.
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April 1, 2011 1:04pm
Manolo

Maybe this is what the Messiah meant when he said “energy prices would skyrocket under my administration”.
He refuses to allow drilling.

Gasoline up 100% under Obama

Gas prices have doubled since Mr. Obama took office. According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office.

Today the national average is $3.58. The lowest average price in the continental United States is $3.31 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the highest is $4.14 in Santa Barbara, CA. $4-a-gallon gas has arrived on average throughout California, and a number of other states are headed in that direction.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/mar/30/gas-prices-double-under-obama/
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April 1, 2011 1:32pm
Murray

Maybe we should set a journalist rating board. Everyone starts at zero then gets rated for each item that comes to our attention. Send the results to all the editors.

Lets see how far some of them get into negative figures before they spit the dummy.
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April 1, 2011 1:35pm
reid

This will make hydrogen powered cars a reality.
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April 1, 2011 2:25pm
reid

I have to say English is behaving very foolishly at the mo by being utterly silent about cuts to Parliamentary Services. It’s an incredibly bad look and frankly, dumb, cause all he has to do is say the cuts are going to start at home and demonstrate that don’t pretend to do it but do it.

Otherwise – duh – the Nats take a hit in election year. Fucking d’oh.

What the fuck is he thinking, and how much is he getting paid, to do nothing but think? Hello.
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April 1, 2011 2:38pm
starboard

“Children have been found at Opotiki tinnie houses during police drugs raids.”

..did the powers that be really think they wouldnt find any? Did they really think the scum that are the “parents” would be saying.. ” run along rangi go play down the road while I sell me gunja out the side door”?
The ferals have probably even forgotten they have children.
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April 1, 2011 2:43pm
thedavincimode

Thanks for that Manolo. Its still cheaper there so I can continue to buy my petrol from Amazon.
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April 1, 2011 2:58pm
Rodders

Poor Michael Laws. What a pesky inconvenience those council committee meetings are.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10716423
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April 1, 2011 3:07pm
cha

# reid.

New Zealander John Flemming is working with Texas Tech to develop low cost nh3 fuel technology.
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April 1, 2011 3:11pm
reid

Thanks cha I half-listened to someone on National Radio awhile back talking about these beads and that must have been him. Thanks for that additional info.

This has got to take off globally if only because it kills so many awkward issues like oil geopolitics, plus it builds upon existing infrastructure and that is the killer for electric. There is absolutely no downside.

We should be setting up a production plant right now, by offering any overseas money that wanted it very low tax status in return for building and operating it here.

I wonder where they got the idea from, to do it like this. I bet you could use it to carry other material as well, like drugs through the bloodstream, that only activated in the presence of a cancer cell. Should be able to whack that together in the garage this Saturday arvo. Might give it a go. Where’s my hammer?
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April 1, 2011 3:25pm
reid

Sorry cha, next time I’ll actually read your links before I pretend I know what they’ve said…

and it looks also promising.

This AGW business is really quite fun, isn’t it. Especially as a side-benefit it keeps the lefties thinking like hysterical school girls which is good for us. Quite funny really.
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April 1, 2011 3:34pm
edhunter

Stuff have just reported “shooting victim laid to rest” & “young man killed in police shooting” what emotive bullshit but as is constantly repeated here par for the course.
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April 1, 2011 3:56pm
DJP6-25

reid 2:25 pm. I hope this stuff becomes practical really soon. Then civilized countries can give the Arabs and their oil the bird.

cheers

David Prosser
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April 1, 2011 3:56pm
tester

“Police shooting victim laid to rest”… whoever wrote this headline needs to have their head removed from their backside. “Victim”??

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4838039/Police-shooting-victim-laid-to-rest
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April 1, 2011 4:00pm
reid

“Police shooting victim laid to rest”

Look who knows it could be true this certainly sounds like was a mis-judged situation given what we know about the young man. I mean, even though he has a weapon, this is what armed officers are trained to deal with. So it’s unlikely that going through the officer who shot him’s mind was anything other than what his no doubt comprehensive and competent training had taught him to do, by constant repetition until he did it by rote.

One of those things is: assess target’s mindset.

So was this done properly, or not, is the cold, hard question to be answered in due course.

Meanwhile, I quite agree, about the media’s tabloid putridity. FFS, yes, we hate it when both TV news channels do it, which they do, all the time, which is why very few with any sense watch any of it, these days. But for fucks sake you fucking fuckity fuck fuckhead moron fucks, does it have to be on the front page of one of the top two papers in the country?

I thought newspapers like those, were “serious.” Would be nice if they acted like it.
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April 1, 2011 4:10pm
Yvette

“Scientists give chilling warnings on climate”
– stuff.co.nz

Yeah … on global warming …
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April 1, 2011 4:28pm
big bruv

Guess who is coming back as host of the radio live drive show?

http://clintheine.blogspot.com/
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April 1, 2011 5:41pm
joana

I am not blind David..People from a rural background find your..”authorities have not released enough land”..facile and offensive. In some places like Wellington there are natural barriers to expansion..[but who is going to be responsible for all the ugly apartments built there in recent times..I am sure noone will be putting their hand up when Wgtn experiences a big earthquake. There will be far more fatalities in Wgtn than there was in CHCH.]
In CHCh expansion has spread out unchecked into previously rural areas. Many of the owners of these lifestyle blocks are wealthy foreigners..Poms thinking they have landed in a new world..and you want me to believe they haven’t pushed the prices up.
I still want to know why hugely expensive people are bring paid to investigate something which other far more qualified people have just produced a report on.
Years ago in another lifetime , I was the secretary to a similar group of wealthy men conducting an inquiry..None of these people need the fees , allowances , extravagant lunches they are given..Hardly anyone will ever read the report they produce..these inquiries are a waste of time and money…Outrageous when many CHCh people are preparing to spend the coming winter in poorly insulated campervans in the newly established campervan towns.
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April 1, 2011 6:04pm
bereal

When you have a VICTIM of a police shooting laid to rest.
The fucking VICTIM fired a shotgun at police officers. FFS
This POS ‘s farno wondered why the police couldnt have used a Taser.
I’d love to see that farno wanker go up against a shotgun with a taser.
Then you have a man who executed his wife rather than accept rejection
and the loss of half his fortune almost receive an award from a “justice” such as
“justice” Allan.
Do you need to ask yourself, ‘how fucked up has what was once a great country,
New Zealand become ?’
Why have we sunk so low? Why ?
Are there any citizens with common sense left ?
It cant be just political correctness, it must be more than that.
What is our problem ?
Seriously ?
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April 1, 2011 6:48pm
Pete George

This bloke Meads (sentenced to 11 years for executing his wife) probably thinks
he got a pretty good deal from “Justice” Christopher Allan.

That’s not right, he’s been sentenced to life with a minimum parole period of 11 years.

What’s the likelihood he will get out in 11 years?
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April 1, 2011 6:52pm
bereal

Oh jeez Pete wake up to yourself mate.
On past performance he will be judged ‘no longer a threat to society’
and released on the eleventh anniversary. Almost a certainty.
Have you got any argument, or examples to say thats not so ?
Well. What are they mate?
No real offence meant, but people with similar attitudes to yours are what have
brought us to this sick situation.
Are you happy with this result ?
OK Pete, are you happy with this result ?
Don’t fudge, dont try and argue on behalf of both sides as you usually do.
Take a stand. Dont woffle. Have some guts for once.
Try and answer this question with a yes or no.
Lets hear it Pete.
Do you think 11 years is a fair sentence for Meads ?
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April 1, 2011 7:11pm
bereal

Also Pete, as you represent all that i personaly think is sick and weak in our society.
What is your answer to the question i posed at 6.48 ?
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April 1, 2011 7:20pm
Hurf Durf

Hurf Durf emailed me to say he has found God and given up booze, P, AND, the worst cut of all, Kiwiblog!

Pffffft. Even the big G-O-D would have to take my meth from my cold dead hands.

Good craic though, mate. On related matters, you know what would have been a better press release from the Gweens?

“We’re sorry about the last thirteen years, it was all a big joke. We never meant any of it. We disband with immediate effect and all funds are to be transferred to our personal bank accounts. Sorry we wasted your time.”

Also would be nice for it to not be an April Fools Day joke either.

Also would be nice if Bryla did the same thing.
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April 1, 2011 7:44pm
Hurf Durf

I hope Bryla isn’t considering going to Hong Kong if he doesn’t want to catch the evil invisible cooties!

Typical amounts of radiation in Hong Kong exceed those in Tokyo even as workers struggle to contain a crippled nuclear plant in northern Japan, indicating concerns about spreading contamination may be overblown.

The radiation level in central Tokyo reached a high of 0.109 microsieverts per hour in Shinjuku Ward yesterday, data from the Tokyo Metropolitan Institute of Public Health show. That compares with 0.14 microsieverts in the Kowloon district of Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Observatory said on its website. A person is exposed to 50 microsieverts from a typical x-ray.

Oh yeah, and the iodine?

No fishing is occurring nearby and the sea is dispersing the iodine, he said.

Funny how anti-nuker hysteria collapses when confronted by the facts.
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April 1, 2011 7:54pm
reid

anti-nuker hysteria

You mean nukular Hurf. Anti-nukular hysteria.

Sorry to interrupt.
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April 1, 2011 8:00pm
bereal

Pete George must be watching the football on TV now .
He is usually so quick to reply. Oh well.
you can be sure he will see my effort at 7.11 and 7.20.
Maybe when the footie is over he will attempt a reply.
Lets see. Have you got anything about you Pete ?
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April 1, 2011 8:07pm
Hurf Durf

Nukular, nuclear. Let’s call the whole thing off.
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April 1, 2011 8:11pm
reid

Speaking of things nuclear:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371793/Japan-nuclear-crisis-Fukushima-plant-entombed-concrete-radiation-leak.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmENbjRx19E&feature=player_embedded

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-31/tepco-workers-threatened-by-heat-bursts-sea-radiation-rises.html
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April 1, 2011 8:19pm
Steve

I must stop buying ‘iodised salt’ My thyroid glands are ok for now.
Buy ‘sea salt’ fuck no, that’s got iodine in it
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April 1, 2011 8:30pm
cha

But would you take the job HD?.
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April 1, 2011 8:47pm
Hurf Durf

Sure, cha. It’s an acceptable risk. Though sharing the fate of poor Shawna Galassi who now can’t jump might give me second thoughts. These journalists don’t half stick their necks out for a crust.
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April 1, 2011 8:51pm
cha

http://investmentwatchblog.com/wanted-u-s-workers-for-crippled-japan-nuke-plant/
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April 1, 2011 8:51pm
Komata

Steve

Re: ‘Buy ‘sea salt’ ,,, that’s got iodine in it’

Not totally correct I’m afraid – sea salt DOES contain Iodine BUT not in quantities that will prevent Goiter in humans. It’s actually as a direct result of this fact, that Iodine is compulsorily required by law to be put into ‘Table’ salt in this country – a practice that was started in the 1930’s to cut the severe problem of Goiter amongst the population. I believe that New Zealand was the first country in the world to take this measure, and the fact that we have largely eliminated the malaise is a direct result of this. Interestingly, and FWIW, Goiter made an unexpected resurgence in the late ’80’s and the only reason that the medics could find for this was that it seemed to coincide with the introduction of (UN-iodised) ‘sea salt’ into the New Zealand diet, largely as a result of the influence of the ‘up-market’ glossy food magazines which made it oh so fashionable to consume it. From memory the salt came from Europe (Greece? Italy?) which didn’t (still doesn’t?) have New Zealand type ‘Iodine’ regulations.

Thought you might like to know . . .
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April 1, 2011 8:52pm
cha

Chernobyl’s cleanup crew: Part 1, Part 2.

“Your eyes hurt, and there was a metal taste in your mouth. Those are the two things you felt.”
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April 1, 2011 8:55pm
Hurf Durf

Comparing Fukushima to Chernobyl now, chuck? Now you are disappointing me.
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April 1, 2011 9:00pm
cha

Nah, not at all HD but Fukushima certainly backs up the old riggers adage, “biggest isn’t always best because it may not be big enough”.
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April 1, 2011 9:07pm
Steve

Thanks komata. My budgie has Eltroxin (Thyroxine Sodium) just so he can keep swearing. Otherwise no whistle or talk
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April 1, 2011 9:07pm
Hurf Durf

Does that apply to wind turbines? Cos we’re gonna need a hell of a big wind turbine in order for them to produce a decent amount of electricity.
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April 1, 2011 9:20pm
Inky_the_Red

List of buildings for demolition following the Christchurch Earthquakes
http://canterburyearthquake.org.nz/2011/04/01/buildings-set-for-demolition-partial-demolition-make-safe/
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April 1, 2011 9:26pm
Komata

As this is a site for ‘General Debate’ and discussion on a variety of topics (not all political) and that collectively there is a large knowledge-base amongst the readers of Kiwiblog, an I please request the assistance of the readership to locate some information:

We have all been told that New Zealand is borrowing large sums per week (currently $350 million I believe), and I have no reason to doubt this.

However, in connection with research I am undertaking, I need to be able to find written confirmation of this fact – BUT for the period December 2009 -March 2010 (at which time from memory it was around $150 million per week).

Can anyone amongst the readership point me in the right direction – where I can find ‘Official’ written confirmation of this. The Reserve Bank site doesn’t seem to help, (certainly it doesn’t make the actual statement that ‘NZ is borrowing XXX mil per week’), and the nations’ newspapers are of doubtful value because of their partiality. I suspect that Bill English may have made the statement in an announcement to this effect, but need to be able to see it in print (or on Google if a URL exists).

So ….

It is, I realise a somewhat unusual request, but knowing that someone will be able to point me in the right direction, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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April 1, 2011 9:26pm
bereal

At the risk of sounding like a big head.
Since 8.00 tonite.
What are you morons on about ?
Why not have a circle fuck atound the mulberry bush.
OK sorry.i must get out more.

Even Pete George sounds like a genius.
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April 1, 2011 9:41pm
cha

Referring to the Fukushima engineers designing for the calculated worst case scenario but on the day things weren’t quite big enough. As for wind, sure, as part of an integrated generation strategy but not as a stand alone. My own view is that pipes, wires and line losses cost an awful lot of money so less is better and for generation as close to users as possible.
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April 1, 2011 9:43pm
Hurf Durf

Designed for the calculated worst case scenario but not put into practice because of TEPCO cutting corners. Thirty years of hysteria culminating in the failure for new reactors to be built and older ones to be upgraded due to a lack of political will hasn’t helped matters. I think it’s time people came to the understanding that Greenpeace et al just want us to starve in the dark.
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April 1, 2011 10:25pm
Bryla

I agree with you Hurfy. You is just so wise. Smartarse Green Commies might blither on about distributed generation systems, “smart” appliances and networking systems, and the electronic revolution but they is just Neanderthal suck-arses what want us starving in the dark. Everyone knows that a nuclear reactor in a bucket of water is the height of sophistication and 120% SAFE. In fact getting SAFER all the time. I wonder if they’ll sell me some of that Plutonium for my fish breeding experiments?
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April 1, 2011 11:40pm
Hurf Durf

distributed generation systems, “smart” appliances and networking systems, and the electronic revolution

You see, Bryan? Bluster and bunkum. Totally meaningless. I don’t know how intelligent people would ever take your pie in the sky utopia seriously.
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April 2, 2011 12:01am
Bryla

Did I say 120% SAFE? I meant 150% SAFE, of course. SAFE SAFE SAFE. Ya gotta luv that Plutonium! we could build one in Christchurch.
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April 2, 2011 1:08am
Hurf Durf

No rational argument, just hyperbole and stupidity. Fitting for a man who says an event in which 300 people die is “peaceful.”
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April 2, 2011 1:31am
Bryla

200%
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April 2, 2011 2:05am
Hurf Durf

Bryan’s brain has finally shut down. We might get some lucidity now.
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April 2, 2011 2:21am
Bryla

300% it’s SAFE I tell you, SAFE. If Hurfy continues to deny it, I’ll go to 400%. NOTHING can be safer on a fine Autumn day than Plutonium with an umbrella.
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April 2, 2011 3:02am
Hurf Durf

Dribble dribble dribble, drool drool drool, calm down Bry, the nice doctors are coming with the strait jackets so they can put you in a warm sealed room where the evil radiation can’t get to you.
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April 2, 2011 3:07am
Bryla

Alright, 400% then.
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April 2, 2011 5:55am
Manolo

One less crook, criminal, and bludger. Good riddance.

A Thai overstayer who has been living in New Zealand illegally for 10 years has been deported to Thailand, after a failed bid to stay with his partner and New Zealand-born daughter.

Chayasazh Oajwajee was on a flight back to Thailand this afternoon, about four hours after Judge Kit Toogood turned down his application for a review of an Immigration New Zealand decision to deport him at a hearing in the High Court in Auckland.

Oajwajee, 39, had been in custody since he was found at a Pukekohe house on March 7 and interviewed by an immigration officer.
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April 2, 2011 7:00am
Pete George

bereal, I most often ignore your impatient demands for responses, it’s really quite easy. But this comment deserves correcting:

bereal (687) Says:
April 1st, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Oh jeez Pete wake up to yourself mate.
On past performance he will be judged ‘no longer a threat to society’
and released on the eleventh anniversary. Almost a certainty.

Where do you get your “past performance” claim from?

Parole Outcomes – Expected and Statistics

Most offenders make several appearances before the Board before it is satisfied that the best available arrangements have been made for the offender’s release into the community.

It is unusual for the Parole Board to grant a release date after considering a case for the first time.

About 70% of all parole applications are “declined – postponed for later consideration”.
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April 2, 2011 7:30am
joana

Manolo
Deportation does not mean much in NZ…I know of two occasions when deported people have been back in NZ in no time at all. It is supposed to mean they are not allowed back in for five years.
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