General Debate 5 March 2011

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Offshore_Kiwi

At the request of Drs Muriel Newman and Hugh Barr:

http://www.nzcpr.com/An%20Open%20Letter%20to%20Kiwis.pdf
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March 5, 2011 10:56pm
Luc Hansen

And Libya is a state where the majority religion is Muslim, but it is not an Islamic state. Dictators don’t tend to like religion taking precedence.

Also, I wasn’t quoting or misquoting or taking you out of context, earlier. It was a reference to a quote wrongly attributed to George Galloway. I guess you are a bit young for that, sorry.
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March 5, 2011 10:59pm
Luc Hansen

offshore kiwi

Don’t worry about it. The bill is against international law and will be struck down eventually.
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March 5, 2011 11:02pm
Hurf Durf

As one who never supports dictators, I take offense at your comments.

Bahahahahahaahhahahahahaha. Deal with it. Oh: and the meaning you should take from my line is that Gadaffi should have been killed in the airstrikes in 1986; unfortunately the socialists in Italy or Malta warned him. Then again history never has been your strong point, has it?

although the LSE only did so after Tony Blair

I’m talking all the Oxbridge and Ivy League fucks in the 70s and 80s. They did the same thing with Mugarbage back then. No doubt you were feting him as a liberator then as well.

I’ve got nothing to be sorry about,

Keep denying it. You might get a flash of epiphany on your deathbed, but I doubt that.
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March 5, 2011 11:16pm
Luc Hansen

Hurf

You are one twisted fucker.

Can’t we just agree to be on the same side, for once?

And I can tell you this, in the 70s and 80s I had my head down and arse up providing for a family and I hardly even noticed what was going here politically, let alone elsewhere. And, then, I quite liked Smith, in Rhodesia. He knew how to make a good cup of tea.

But funny how things change. My (now, not then) wife was amongst the protestors at the 1981 test I attended at Eden Park. I thought it was time apartheid ended but I still wanted to watch the footy.

I hope I wouldn’t make that mistake again.
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March 5, 2011 11:32pm
Bobbie black

I tell you one interesting thing, observing from overseas, is that when they interview people in CHCH on TV it seems about two thirds of the people have English accents.
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March 5, 2011 11:35pm
reid

I hope I wouldn’t make that mistake again.

What did the protests ever achieve? You mean that mistake Luc? I agree, let’s hope no-one ever does that again. Idiots.
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March 5, 2011 11:46pm
Luc Hansen

What the tours achieved, reid, was the end of rugby tours between NZ and SA.

Rebel teams notwithstanding.

The protestors were right.
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March 6, 2011 12:13am
reid

What the tours achieved, reid, was the end of rugby tours between NZ and SA.

You think the protesters achieved that Luc?

You don’t think it had anything to do with international diplomatic wheels that were already rolling anyway indeed had started years beforehand and which paid no heed whatsoever to what was happening in some little country for a few weeks?

Really?
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March 6, 2011 12:20am
reid

P.S. Luc as all the “colonial” regimes are dismantled and replaced by “indigenousness” ones, is this on balance proving to be less or more effective than when whitey was running them? Basic things like ports and transport and manufacturing and education and law and order and stuff like that. Is all of this working better in SA since 1990?

It is?

Oh goody.
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March 6, 2011 12:31am
Luc Hansen

reid

The end of tours between NZ and SA was a direct result of the awakening of NZers by the protests. As for the bigger question of ending apartheid, it was just a small cog in the wheel.

And too answer your last post, yes, it is better, because indigenous Africans are now accorded their human rights, as we take for granted for ourselves.

It’s up to them now. If you don’t like it, don’t go there.
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March 6, 2011 12:58am

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