General Debate 30 March 2011

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Lance

Don’t you hate this infantile me 1st stuff?
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March 30, 2011 8:03am
slightlyrighty

I see Dan Vettori is stepping down. I thought the Black Caps exceeded expectations at the world cup. Given Vettori helped turn a struggling team around and regain lost support, d’ya think the Labour Caucus could use him?
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March 30, 2011 8:07am
Linda Reid

He wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.
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March 30, 2011 8:10am
Murray

How about with a cricket bat?
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March 30, 2011 8:16am
Inventory2

No Murray; David Benson-Pope has gone 😉
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March 30, 2011 8:20am
Murray

My bad.
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March 30, 2011 8:28am
starboard

BP Papanui road..diesel increased overnight ( under the cover of darkness ) to $1.70 per litre. Shell and Mobil still $1.64.

BP. The price increase leaders. All Kiwibloggers unite. Dont purchase anything from BP.
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March 30, 2011 8:32am
Manolo

I suspect this criminal will blame colonianism for his actions.

A silver-tongued Wellington fraudster conned a car dealership out of a $165,000 Mercedes by masquerading as the manager of Auckland’s Hilton Hotel – ordering hotel staff around and pouring himself drinks from behind the bar.

Heston Williamson told a salesman he wanted to take the car for a test drive. Police found him and the Mercedes the next day, 235 kilometres away in Rotorua, where he had checked into the Rydges hotel and run up a $560 bill.

Yesterday Williamson, 43, also known as Heston Kururangi, was sentenced to 14 months in prison after pleading guilty to several theft and fraud charges, including two of conning new cars out of dealerships and not returning them.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/national/crime/4824493/Mercedes-conmans-masquerade
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March 30, 2011 8:34am
Rodders

If ever a photo invited a caption…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10715803#
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March 30, 2011 8:35am
wreck1080

I never buy from BP – they are always the price hikers.

AA was this morning calling the petrol companies to lower prices, based on the increasing kiwi dollar and stablised prices. They have a gall to raise prices when they should be decreasing – AA are good watchdogs.

I think some people like to get AA points from them though.

But,you’re better off using shell and getting flybuys and credit card points.
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March 30, 2011 8:42am
thedavincimode

Indeed Rodders. Not clear whether Gaffey is helping him or about to push him. Cunners seems to think the latter.

And so he emerges; the Alfred E. Neuman of NZ politics (and its not just a physical resemblance).

“What, me worry”?
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March 30, 2011 8:43am
Rodders

Re BP & AA Rewards Points. Should AA reconsider this? A perceived conflict of interest?
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March 30, 2011 8:45am
pdm

Slightlyrighty I would give the credit for turning the team around to your namesake John Wright(y).

What a terrible bowling change by Vettori to bring on Ryder when Oram and McKay had been strangling the Sri Lankans and still had two overs each to go. The batting lost the game but that bowling change guaranteed a Sri Lankan win.
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March 30, 2011 8:45am
Rick Rowling

I thought the Black Caps exceeded expectations

Reminds me of this article in The Pigeon.
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March 30, 2011 8:51am
Cobolt

Photo Caption

Goff: “Any potential challenge to my leadership has been addressed.” Subheading: Cause of Mallards injuries are being questioned.
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March 30, 2011 8:59am
bhudson

On BP:

If one was a cynic it might be suggested that the price hike indicates New World supermarkets will be offering 25c/litre discount coupons this weekend.
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March 30, 2011 9:00am
bhudson

Photo Caption

Goff: “I’ll have to rid myself of this troublesome priest.”
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March 30, 2011 9:02am
Nookin

They exceeded expectations in that they got to the semi-finals. They came nowhere near expectations as far as performance was concerned. They still threw away wickets irresponsibly in my view (McCullum last night). There was one batsman (cannot remember which one) bowled by a yorker. His bat was at a 45 degree angle. Fielding was brilliant and Guptil lead the pack here. Doesn’t make up for the weakness that he has when batting in the 30s and 40s, though.
SA cricket is having an independant review. NZ needs one as well. My worry is that Justin will say “Hey, we got to the semies. We are on the right track!”
Bullshit we are.

Rick : that article sums it up perfectly.
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March 30, 2011 9:03am
Inventory2

Rod Emmerson’s cartoon in today’s Herald is simply brilliant …

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/03/emmersons-at-it-again.html
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March 30, 2011 9:11am
MT_Tinman

slightlyrighty (1,761) Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 8:07 am
I see Dan Vettori is stepping down. I thought the Black Caps exceeded expectations at the world cup. Given Vettori helped turn a struggling team around and regain lost support, d’ya think the Labour Caucus could use him?

If his effect on the Labour Party is the same as he had on the NZ cricket team we should be free of quasi-communist rule for at least my lifetime.

Christ I hope the two entities get together, Vettori and Labour deserve each other.
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March 30, 2011 9:18am
BeaB

Hilarious articles in the Herald this morning about the pack of ‘noddies’ around Goff yesterday. Labour treat us with such contempt if they think we are taken in.
We now know for sure they are gutless wonders who would rather stick with a loser like Goff than grasp the nettle and give us a good election fight this year. Pathetic.
Is it because of too many women and gays in the party that they don’t have the stomach for leadership?
Grant Robertson on TV last night shows he has developed the partliament paunch too. Too much sitting round, eating and drinking and talking. And how many versions have we had from Phil now?
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March 30, 2011 9:18am
Bobbie black

Congrats Sri Lanka and congrats to the Black Caps…f’ing fine entertainment, could have gone either way at the death, two fantastic victories Pakistan and South Africa.

Proud, proud, proud.

Hope it is a good sign for the future, though Vettori played a big part, that is clear.

To beat those little buggers you need 300.

I hope India and Pakistan falter too.
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March 30, 2011 9:30am
big bruv

I note that the unions have started their campaign of outright lies re the 90 day trial act due to come into being on Friday.

While I am on the subject of unions, has anybody heard or seen if the unions have donated to the Christchurch relief find at all?……or are they saving their money for the upcoming election?
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March 30, 2011 9:33am
Cobolt

The rate this is going National are going to have carte blanche to do as they please next term. After all the massive election result will give them the mandate to go full steam on any policy they announce prior to election day. The greens will no doubt pick up some extras though. Maybe Bomber’s new party will get off the ground.
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March 30, 2011 9:35am
big bruv

Bobbie

I could handle an honourable loss to Sri Lanka, what I cannot handle is the sight of that cheating bastard Murali playing the game.

Murali is a disgrace and an insult to the game of cricket, he should have been kicked out of the game decades ago.
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March 30, 2011 9:38am
Yvette

{Goff] blamed Labour’s political opponents for the controversy and rumours of leadership plots, saying they had deliberately leaked the complaint against Mr Hughes and seeded rumours to destabilise Labour.
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MP Trevor Mallard said there was genuine acceptance of Mr Goff’s explanation that he acted in good faith.
“I don’t think anyone in the room didn’t think things could have been done from slightly to very differently, but in the end it’s an awful situation and people were accepting of the explanations.“
– NZ Herald

One wonders, What sort of pain killers is Trevor on?

[DPF: Trevor has chosen his words carefully. No one is saying they agree with what Goff did. They are saying Goff acted in good faith – a big difference]
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March 30, 2011 9:46am
Bobbie black

Come on Big Bruv, we all know you have a debatable point but its what’s on the board that counts as you know and 217 was never gonna cut it with those Sri Lankan openers.

And luck went their way big time this time. Unlike a South African getting caught off a boot.

The Kiwi collapse at the death did it, even 230 I think would have been a totaly different match.

Would’ve could’ve…it’s all in the history books now.

Have a beer and rinse the bitterness from your mouth, is what I’m doing anyway.
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March 30, 2011 9:48am
Inventory2

Big Bruv is right though; after Murali came on the scene, the sub-continent teams produced a wealth of spinners in particular with highly dubious actions. What was the ICC’s response? They caved in to the pressure of those who accused them of being racist, and changed the rules of the game to allow bowlers to flex their arm up to 15 degrees in the delivery swing. It was an incredibly weak stance by the ICC, and a blight on the game.
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March 30, 2011 10:03am
voice of reason

big bruv (8,848) Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:38 am
…..Murali is a disgrace and an insult to the game of cricket, he should have been kicked out of the game decades ago.”

Too right BB – He is a chucker, if he had a legal action there is no way he could bowl his doosra.
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March 30, 2011 10:05am
smttc

If comments made by Judith Tizard reported in this morning’s Herald are accurate then it looks like she is determined to take her seat in parliament. Oh please let it be true.
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March 30, 2011 10:16am
Mr Magister

Speaking of captions for photographs, a friend pointed out Mallard being taken from behind in this morning’s ODT:

http://www.odt.co.nz/files/story/2011/03/labour_leader_phil_goff_reacts_to_media_questions__4d91b340e6.JPG
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March 30, 2011 10:20am
Bobbie black

God what is happening to the Labour Party lately?

It’s like a gay camp on their period.

Scatty.

[deleted by DPF and 20 demerits]
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March 30, 2011 10:28am
Inventory2

@ smttc – it confirms what I was thinking over the weekend. The deal to Phil Goff from the NYBOTLP (New York Branch of the Labour Party) was simple; if he went away, so would Tizard. Conversely, if he stayed, so would she.

Phil Goff has made his bed. Now he has to lie in it – with Judith Tizard. Apologies to anyone who lost his/her breakfast at the mental picture of that 🙂
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March 30, 2011 10:32am
dime

anyone listen to zb this morning?

hosking doing his segment with joyce and king

“first off annette, tell me, how is darran hughes holding up?”

like darran is the victim ffs
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March 30, 2011 10:37am
RightNow

I have to admit to being confused about the instructions from NY. I thought the plan was always that Goff and King would babysit Helen’s ‘family’ until at least the next election.
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March 30, 2011 10:38am
Cobolt

Thanks Mr Magister, promptly submitted to ThisIsPhotobomb.com
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March 30, 2011 10:38am
Bobbie black

OMG it’s not Where’s Wally anymore, it’s more spot the person WITHOUT the retarded genes in their family?
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March 30, 2011 10:42am
thedavincimode

smttc

That might be just a wind up by Rudman at the behest of his good buddy ‘Double Down’ Williams to embarrass Tizard (as if you could) into NOT going back. Or given the Klerk connection with Double Down, maybe even the reverse whammy to make sure she DOES go back. Whew, this sure is complicated! Whatever, inevitably there was a phone call.
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March 30, 2011 10:44am
thedavincimode

Mr Magister

Surely not. Perhaps Parekura had just caught a whiff of a meat pie on the breeze.
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March 30, 2011 10:47am
gravedodger

Don’t anyone tell Micheal Cullen that the “Kingston Flyer” is on trademe as a mortgagee sale.
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March 30, 2011 11:08am
gravedodger

Re the photo from the Dunedin Zoo, Charlie Shovels countenance has a decided who me Trevor look of detatchment about it, what a little goldmine for the students of Psychology 101.
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March 30, 2011 11:14am
iMP

Starboard. Why would you buy diesel anyway? You can’t get down Papanui Rd for the traffic with hardhit Chch (East & SE Chch) migrated N/NW. Northlands on a Saturday (Auckland commuter traffic).
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March 30, 2011 11:21am
Cobolt

“Approaching New Zealand’s poorest and most indebted demographic for a hand out is not appropriate.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10715896

What? were asking people queuing at food banks for Chch relief funds?

Spoilt, snotty nosed little brats, “borrow” a nice chunk of cash to educate themselves and then take their new-found skills offshore and expect us to wipe their debt. Then they get pissy when we ask for it back to help balance the govt coffers during the Chch rebuild.

This student loan thing is all wrong, not having to pay it back while overseas. The law must have been misworded, it should have been not allowed to travel overseas until the loan is payed off.

Spoilt shits.
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March 30, 2011 11:30am
Bobbie black

On the bad news, note my deep study on whether Petra and Corin actually have a personality is not going well and they do seem to be personality-less, or at least lizard people.

On the good news, I have learned how to spell Corin, over time.

Petra needs to go.

Let’s pretend it’s a Labour election with Phil Goff or a new episode of Lost.

I would be interested to hear what Paul and Pippa have to say on their ridiculous replacements.
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March 30, 2011 11:47am
Bobbie black

Anyway, I’m out.

Back tomorrow.

Out.
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March 30, 2011 12:34pm
Rufus

Cobolt 11:30

Fully agree.

Might as well get them used to how the real world operates before they borrow $30,000 +.

Pisses me off no end that there’s responsible people who paid their student loans back promptly, and then went off overseas / bought houses etc, while there’s a HUGE proportion who pay nothing or just the minimum.

I suspect some will never pay it back.

Why we are still willing to cover $2 BILLION worth of student debt is beyond me. Make the ungrateful bludgers pay it back.
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March 30, 2011 1:12pm
big bruv

So the poor bastards in Auckland are having to fork out another three million dollars for the NZRU’s piss up.

Given the govt are about to cut spending then they could do worse than tell the NZRU that they will have to cover the entire loss of their minor sporting tournament.
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March 30, 2011 1:15pm
All_on_Red

Does anyone know who “Gandalf” from St Heliers is? He seems to get a lot of prominence in the NZ Herald comments sections but has all the hallmarks of a Labour activist.
ta
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March 30, 2011 1:40pm
Rufus

Prepare to vent…..

EQC is such a farking useless outfit. Discuss.

/vent over
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March 30, 2011 3:03pm
starboard

“Starboard. Why would you buy diesel anyway?”

..Ive given up tryin to steal it. They really are bastards these pricks BP..if only everyone decided to boycott them they would get the message. …ha ! and now I see the head honchos of BP may face manslaughter charges re the big spill in America . Ha !
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March 30, 2011 4:04pm
Longknives

I have to say that even though they somehow made the ‘semis’ this is still one of the absolute weakest Black Cap sides ever. I paid good money to watch them in the test against an understrength Pakistan, and watched them laugh and joke with each other as they got beaten in three days. Lets not forget also that this bunch laughed and joked and pissed up as they lost twelve one dayers in a row….Even with occasional fluke victories against South Africa etc I won’t forgive until there is a cleanout and a MAJOR change in attitude….
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March 30, 2011 4:16pm
Manolo

The most anti-American president, the Messiah, who refuses to allow drilling.

Washington – An Interior Department report to be released Tuesday says more than two-thirds of offshore oil and gas leases in the Gulf of Mexico are sitting idle.

According to the report, obtained by The Associated Press, those inactive swaths of the Gulf could potentially hold more than 11 billion barrels of oil and 50 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. The report also shows that 45% of all onshore oil and gas leases are inactive.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110329/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_energy_4
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March 30, 2011 4:54pm
Manolo

Shane got her wicket too.

Liz Hurley may soon be calling Australia home, with reports the British actress-model is preparing to move in with on-again, off-again boyfriend Shane Warne.

The 45-year-old may move into Warne’s $10 million Melbourne mansion and the couple is even looking for a school for Hurley’s eight-year-old son Damian, according to Woman’s Day.

“I have never seen him so besotted with a woman as he is with Liz,” a close friend of Warne, 41, told the magazine.
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March 30, 2011 5:12pm
bhudson

“I have never seen him so besotted with a woman as he is with Liz,” a close friend of Warne, 41, told the magazine.

It continues:

“he’s only had 3 other women since he’s been with Liz. I’ve never known him to live such a monogamous lifestyle. Clearly he is in love.”
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March 30, 2011 5:15pm
thedavincimode

Manolo, ENOUGH!! Christ, now its women’s “magazine” quotes.

You need a holiday.
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March 30, 2011 5:17pm
bereal

Should Judith Tizzard return to parliament there is no debate that she would resume
the mantel of the most useless, shallow, sad, nonce ever to sit in the House of
Representatives of New Zealand. i dont think there is any question about that.
However. In her absence who wears that crown ?
Yesterday, in answer to that question a couple of correspondents nominated
Catherine Delahunty. i dissagree. Ms Delahunty, in my opinion does have a brain, she
is committed to her cause and can express herself eloquently. You cant doubt her
dedication to what she considers is her cause. i don’t adhere to her point of view
but concede that she does have one and she believes in it ferverently.
i would suggest the following MPs for the title of most f**king useless ever.
Check out their biographs on Wikipedia (not their party site) and feel free to nominate
a better candidate as even more useless. Tell me where i go wrong. i’m happy to be corrected.

Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi
Ashraf Choudhary
Rajen Prasad.

i’d love to hear what any of their supporters think they bring to the table.
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March 30, 2011 5:18pm
bhudson

Bereal,

The answer is “one vote each” (for the party)
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March 30, 2011 5:20pm
Manolo

Manolo, ENOUGH!! Christ, now its women’s “magazine” quotes.
You need a holiday.

davinci, your concern is appreciated and your advice kindly taken. Just contribute to my wellbeing by sending some bottles of 15yo. Dalwhinnie and all will be fine.

Have you caught DPF’s disease and lost your sense of humour too? To paraphrase Warney, life is too short to shag less than 300 birds. 😀
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March 30, 2011 5:29pm
thedavincimode

Manolo, 300 is Warney’s ANNUAL budget.
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March 30, 2011 5:31pm
thedavincimode

bereal

I agree i was wrong about Delahunty.

In fact, the clear and undisputed champion would have to be Alemain Kopu (sp?).

There – game, set and match!

And don’t come back with some sneaky technicality; such as suggesting she can’t qualify because she never turned up to sit in Parliament. We know what we mean.
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March 30, 2011 5:36pm
bereal

OK. thedavincimode.
Good point. Actually Alamein and Jenny was what caused me to make the biggest f**k up
i ever made when i voted for Helen as a result of that sickening partnership.
Apart from that. Who is your pick for the most useless drone now in the House ?

i rate your opinion.
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March 30, 2011 7:10pm
Viking2

Crackdown on ‘legal highs’

Workers wary of lofty offices
GILES BROWN
Last updated 05:00 30/03/2011

Carpenter Richy Whitty remembers meeting his workmate’s gaze when Clarendon Tower began shaking around him on February 22.

“There was a little [tremor] first and we looked at each other and said `That was a goody’. Then the big one came and we looked at each and I just thought `God, this is huge’.”

The news with a twist.
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March 30, 2011 7:13pm
Hurf Durf

Double Down released at KFC next month. Happy days are here again.

I can feel the grease coursing through my veins already.
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March 30, 2011 8:14pm
bereal

And the most most useless article in the House of Representatives must be……..
Wait for it……………..
the most useless nonce ever……….
no positive attributes ever, even his supporters are sick to their guts…………
representing the National Party, the most useless nonce ever ………..
the loser………..

Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi.

Come on down Kanwlaljit . If anyone disputes this award, lets hear how/why this nonce
doesn’t deserve it.
what is one thing this POS has done ? Just one ? Let me guess.
oh yeah , he avoided being charged with immigration offences. Nice one Kanwaltjit.
We need more examples like you. Your Just the best baby.
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March 30, 2011 10:04pm
Put it away

bereal, do you actually know what ‘nonce’ means? You might want to do yourself a favour and look it up. I really don’t think all the people you name are child sex offenders…
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March 30, 2011 10:10pm
bereal

i know what i mean by ‘nonce’ Put it away.
i dont need to look it up.
If you feel it doesn’t apply to your mate Kanwaljit , tell us why.
Why is he your hero ?
i dont even think he is gay.
What has he got going for him then. In your mind.
i don’t expect to hear from you any time soon.
But, have a go baby, prove me wrong .
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March 30, 2011 10:21pm
Put it away

beacompleteloon, what are you talking about? Have I mentioned this Kanwaljit? I have not heard of him before ten minutes ago. All I did was point out you’re using a word that means “child molester” against anyone you don’t like. I assume this is just due to you being ignorant. Have I said anythign whatever that would make a rational person think Kanwaljit is a “mate” or “hero” of mine. Seriously, what the fuck? You are completely insane.
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March 30, 2011 10:32pm
bereal

Put it away
Try and complete this sentence,
“Kanwaljit Bakshi is a great MP and an asset to our country because ………………….”

i’ll say, Kanwaljit Bakshi is the most useless ‘representative ‘ and a total nonce because
he has proved it, Over and over. Do i have to colour it in for you Put it away baby?
Mount the counter argument on behalf of your mate Kanwaltjit……
Over to you P it away. ……………..
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March 30, 2011 10:42pm
bereal

Put it away
Looks like i wound you up baby. Settle down.
i choose to call your mate Kanwaltjit a nonce
i dont need you to interpret. i know a nonce when i see one.
Relax. you’ll have a stroke baby.
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March 30, 2011 10:49pm
Put it away

beacompleteloon, try reading my last comment again. Which part of it is too diffcult for you? Really make an effort to concentrate on what it says, and not just substitute it for whatever track of bullshit is currentely playing on the record that’s spinning in your head.
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March 30, 2011 10:50pm
bereal

Put it away
Eh ??
G’nite babe.
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March 30, 2011 11:01pm
Bobbie black

Low levels of radiation have reached Beijing and China.
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March 31, 2011 12:50am
Bobbie black

Oh yeah, a bit of a slip last night, gf away, HK not Beijing or Shanghai, fortunately, radiation wise.

Party for one, with schnaps. Same ol.

Sorry about that big fella.

Keep up the good work.
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March 31, 2011 1:35am
Manolo

We have had enough of this animal. Now he has learnt to speak like Hone.

Bailey Junior Kurariki has admitted assaulting a man and taking his bicycle, though his mother says he did not do it and is the victim of a police vendetta.

Kurariki, 21 – convicted at 13 for his part in the death of pizza delivery man Michael Choy – appeared in Manukau District Court yesterday on charges of assault, theft and resisting police.

In an explosive first appearance in the morning, he proclaimed he was “just an innocent black man”; and had not stolen the bike but wanted to plead guilty to move things along. However, Judge Jonathan Moses would not accept this plea because of his denial. Kurariki reappeared in the afternoon and pleaded guilty to the assault and resisting police charges.

Police said he kicked a passing cyclist and took the man's bicycle. As he pleaded, his mother, Lorraine West, stood and called out from the public gallery that her son had not stolen the bike.
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March 31, 2011 7:29am
hj

[Censored Frogblog]
Frog attempts to justify parties most extreme position on foreshore and seabed:

I was saddened to receive this open letter from Mike Stevens. Mike is Ngāi Tahu and his family go muttonbirding each year on the Tītī islands in Foveaux Strait. They are the only hapū who still preserve the birds they catch in traditional kelp bags (pōhā). As you can see from the story below, the source of kelp for these bags is now threatened by pollution. They may not take any birds off the island in pōhā this year, for the first time ever.
http://blog.greens.org.nz/2011/03/31/pollution-threatens-maori-tradition/#comments
Michael Stevens | November 15, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Reply

The problem is not as simple as you would have it Memory. Many of the marine resources being damaged by effluent (e.g. bull-kelp) are generally only valued by Maori kin-groups. And, as a minority people, Maori concerns are mostly ignored. This is especially true when doing otherwise would greatly inconvenience the settler power-culture. Put differently, damage is being done, but mostly to Maori property-rights, which have always been treated as expendable. I think that is the key point to this topic, and not, as you hint at, the supposed irrational aesthetics of Maori.
http://biodiversityvoice.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/topic8/
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