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starboard

Time for someone to step up and take some action on these scum looters. Announce that anybody caught looting in Christchurch will automatically be sentenced to 5 years in prison..no parole. These scum are lower than lower. May all looters die a slow painful cancerous death
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March 2, 2011 8:11am
Manolo

A business leader sees through the Messiah’s rethoric:

Obama Move to the Centre is All Talk So Far: Welch

President Obama’s attempts to move to the political centre have been more cosmetic than concrete, author and former General Electric CEO Jack Welch told CNBC.

Speaking as the president tries to find common ground with the new Republican-led House of Representatives, Welch said the supposed shift from the president’s liberal base hasn’t amounted to much as far as policy is concerned.

“The tack to the centre is verbal, it’s not actionable,” he said.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41845257
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March 2, 2011 8:15am
Murray

Starboard my on the ground sources tell me that looters are getting a very rough time from the residents and the police are not seeing a dman thing when they pick them up.

The guy with the black eye in court had had the snot kicked out of him and one looter was left tied to a pole for the cops.

The looters caught by the police are the lucky one.

Situation approved.
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March 2, 2011 8:19am
malcolm

Holy cow. We merely suffer the worst natural disaster in our history and National go all funny and consider scrapping “socialism by stealth” Working For Families and “leave the country to avoid repaying” Interest ‘Free’ Student Loans. Have they lost their minds?! What will Metiria say?

Note to National: This is what happens when you’re useless and visionless. Events overtake you. Your hand is forced. Now you might do what you should have done already, but you’ll look mean for doing it. Well done. And don’t think you’ve just had some bad luck. If it wasn’t the earthquake it would have been something else; like a credit downgrade.

Makes you think though. What would it take to ditch Peter Dunne’s utterly useless Families Commission?: Auckland destroyed by an asteroid strike? What about the pointless Ministry of Women’s Affairs?: South Island sinking into the sea?
…..
Human Rights Commission?: entire population dying from bird-flu?
Ministry of Maori Development?: last non-Maori leaving for Australia?
Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs?: last Maori leaving for Australia?
Children’s Commission?: no more children because everyone has deserted a bankrupt country?
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March 2, 2011 8:25am
Manolo

Even the Russians are abandoning a bastard who refuses to leave.

http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE7201FJ20110301?sp=true

‘Corpse’ Gaddafi should step down – Kremlin source

Moscow, March 1 – A Kremlin source called Muammar Gaddafi a “living political corpse” and said on Tuesday the Libyan leader should step down.

Russia rarely criticises authoritarian leaders, but President Dmitry Medvedev last week condemned Gaddafi’s use of violence against protesters calling for his overthrow and said continued bloodshed would be a crime under international law.

The Kremlin source told reporters it was time for Gaddafi to step down, calling him “a living political corpse who has no place in the modern civilised world.”

Moscow supported a U.N. Security Council resolution on Saturday calling for an arms embargo and other sanctions.
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March 2, 2011 8:28am
Murray

Makes me thing you’re a wool blind socialist Malcolm. Interest free laons were a cynical election bribe we couldn’t afford then and we sure as hell can’t afford now.

Its not “vision” to pretend that there is no cost and financial reality can be wished away with retoric. Its ideological myopia, like any other religious fundamentalism.
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March 2, 2011 8:30am
Manolo

If up to the Green fifth-columnist and incompetent Nick Smith, New Zealand would be putting more money in support of these fraudsters.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/01/house-pursue-efforts-eliminate-funding-climate-group/

House Will Pursue Efforts to Eliminate US Funding for UN Climate Group

If House Republicans have their way, the U.S. may sever its fiscal support for the United Nations’ climate group, reflecting the last lingering effects of the Climate-gate scandal that shook climate science and wobbled the world’s confidence in the theory that that man’s actions are causing the planet to rapidly warm.

Among the many amendments recently passed by the House of Representatives was one by Republican Missouri Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer that would prohibit $13 million in taxpayer dollars from going to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
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March 2, 2011 8:42am
bhudson

In Aus this week. Just got a text that the Eastbourne [Wellington] ferry has sunk and ambulances streaming around to Worser Bay (which clearly suggests the incident/sinking happened closer to Seatoun than Days Bay.)

Does anyone have any more detail?
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March 2, 2011 9:03am
Inventory2

Newstalk ZB is all over it; it’s being towed to shore and although it is above the waterline, but it is sinking and there have been numerous rescues.
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March 2, 2011 9:08am
bhudson

Thanks I2. Hopefully no major injuries or deaths. Are they reporting details of the incident and/or cause?
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March 2, 2011 9:12am
Inventory2

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4721432/Wellington-commuter-ferry-in-difficulty
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March 2, 2011 9:15am
Luc Hansen

Bill English just can’t help himself, can he?

In one breath he acknowledges we are almost certainly now heading into a double dip recession, thanks largely to his tax cuts, but made certain by the quake, and, in classic mirror-image of standard economics, is looking to slash all sorts of spending. If he can get away with it. I wonder how cutting WFF will help the quake victims?

The last double dip recession we had that I remember was the recession that started under Labour before Bolger took over and allowed Richardson and Shipley to run riot with their twisted economics. When he almost lost the next election, then he saw the light and got rid of Richardson and turned into a pretty good PM – just a pity he gave the Black Prince (Birch) so much rope.

The lesson is, in a recession, don’t cut spending!

And don’t skew tax cuts to give the rich a break they don’t need.

I suppose it’s good news for Goff, but it’s bad news for most people.
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March 2, 2011 9:21am
bhudson

Thanks I2. The second photo looks pretty awful. I guess it is too soon to expect Stuff to have much in the way of detail on cause or injuries. I hope all are OK.

On a different note, the course I am on was interrupted by one of the presenters yesterday at 10:51 local time to share in the two minutes of silence. A nice touch – very respectful of them.
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March 2, 2011 9:23am
Manolo

I wonder how cutting WFF will help the quake victims?

The funds would be put to a better use to assist with Christchurch’s reconstruction.

The lesson is, in a recession, don’t cut spending!

To a point. Luc, you must be a proud disciple of Obamanomics, that discredited branch of economics based on spending your way out of a recession.
It never worked, it never will.
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March 2, 2011 9:28am
Murray

Luc just can’t help himself Manolo. Itsd called toeing the party line. The communist party.
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March 2, 2011 9:32am
nasska

Luc Hansen @ 9.21am

You make statements & then contradict them yourself. You assert that English would slash WFF & spend the money on rebuilding Christchurch then offer advice to not cut spending. You also neglect that the money is borrowed in the first place.

If you took out a loan for $500 you could spend it at the supermarket or you could buy $500 worth of building materials & erect a fence. Either way two things are certain 1) you now owe $500, 2) You have spent $500. The only difference is where you’ve spent it……same with the government.

No one other than Labour/Greens has suggested bugger all about new taxes be they for the rich or the poor.

Try to get your shit into one sock.
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March 2, 2011 9:42am
Sofia

starboard – “Time for someone to step up and take some action on these scum looters.”

Comments elsewhere on this seem to be meet with it “isn’t a real problem.”
However people are still staying in houses they wouldn’t, just to protect property.
Police still report, as they did this morning, quake associated opportunist crime.

Just one case needs be bought forward under the National Emergency and see what the sentence is? Not all the liquifaction has been shovelled up yet has it?
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March 2, 2011 10:08am
Manolo

The price of gold climbs amid uncertainty in the Middle East. New record set and further reason to consider mining.

Gold futures closed at a record high and silver futures advanced to a fresh three-decade high on Tuesday as simmering tensions in the Middle East and North Africa, along with fears of inflation, drew investors to the metals.

Gold for April delivery added $21.30, or 1.5%, to $1,431.20 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange.
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March 2, 2011 10:12am
big bruv

Luc

“In one breath he acknowledges we are almost certainly now heading into a double dip recession, thanks largely to his tax cuts”

Lol…..you really have no fucking idea do you Luc.
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March 2, 2011 10:12am
bereal

Recent events in Madison Wisconsin have brought to my attention something that i was prevoiusly
unaware of. Namely that in the past it was considered not OK for state/federal employees to
unionise and collectivley bargain for income and ‘entitlements’ Even FDR agreed with this principle.
Its the erosion of that which has led to many problems from Reagan having to fire the air traffic
controllers to the present situation with many states facing bankruptsy.

How might this translate to New Zealand ? Lets take education for example.

Standards are falling, more and more school leavers are unable to read and write properly
(maybe up to 30%) others, deemed by the secondary school as ready for university are deemed
not to be by the university. The whole system seems to be being dumbed down to a lower and
lower denominator.
This decline is matched by a corresponding rise in influnce and militancy by the teachers assns/union.

i would improve things by;
Removing the right to bargain for salary increases from the teachers associations/unions, have that determined
by a Higher Salaries type setup. Compensate them with a pay increase, but that any and all future increases
are linked to productivity and the current salary levels to remain as a base. So for example if this years
increase was 5% and half the teachers had a majority of students who reached a pre deternined level
then they would receive a 10% increase and the others remain on the base rate.
A teacher who had no productivity for, say 3 years would be retrained or dismissed.
Headmasters and department heads would get productivity payment based on their teachers levels.
The training colleges would raise standards, change culture and begin ‘weeding the garden’ ie student
teachers not reaching the required standard would make a career path adjustment, ie be fired.
Training college tutors would be paid productivity at a rate based on the first 5 years payments
made to their graduates to incentivise them to turn out teachers who could perform.

Happy with that ?

OK whats next ? Housing, welfare, quangos, GDP increase, treaty, defence, immigration ?
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March 2, 2011 10:16am
All_on_Red

“Lol…..you really have no fucking idea do you Luc.”

I think thats been apparent for quite some time. The guy is a total moron completely bereft of any sort of comprehension skills.
I had to laugh the other day, as while he was demanding “peer reviewed” papers on Climate science, his original argument was based on a PRESS RELEASE from an Insurance company (of all places). Sigh, thats the hypocritical left for you
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March 2, 2011 10:27am
nasska

bereal @ 10.16am

My advice is that you should stay anonymous & maybe consider going underground. If the teachers’ unions can identify you I regret that you will make history by becoming the first person to be chalked to death.
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March 2, 2011 10:32am
backster

Sorry to hear that Simon POWER has announced his retirement from next election. He has been in my opinion the best Justice Minister in my memory and the only glimpse of a chance to bring our antiquated in efficient Justice System out of the 19th century.
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March 2, 2011 10:38am
Murray

What would they use for the outline nasska?
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March 2, 2011 10:46am
malcolm

Murray, it was supposed to be sarcasm. Never mind.
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March 2, 2011 10:50am
wreck1080

New information about the Governments new BMW’s —- they are basically free.

I’ve down an about face on this, congratulations on signing such a great deal for the tax payer.

The government is paying for the purchase, but sell them back to BMW at the same price, and , I don’t think they pay any servicing costs.

What does BMW get out of this? Publicity, publicity, publicity. ..
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March 2, 2011 10:51am
Murray

malcolm there is no such thing anymore.
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March 2, 2011 10:51am
Manolo

Sorry to hear that Simon Power has announced his retirement from next election.

I don’t share the sentiment.

I’m very happy to see the back of Figjam Power, provincial conveyance lawyer true to his roots and ability.
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March 2, 2011 10:51am
big bruv

Right, that’s Power crossed off the list.

Next in line should be Finlayson and then Bennett, let’s weed out the closet pinko’s one by one.
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March 2, 2011 10:58am
malcolm

Does anyone have any more detail?

It’s still bobbing around just off Worser Bay. Police and Pilot boat loitering. Tug boat was there but has gone home. Looks like they’ve got the water out as it’s no longer nose-down. Engines still working. I’m guessing they’re waiting for the wind to drop so they can take in back to port.
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March 2, 2011 11:02am
cha

Another fundy busted, this one for pulling his pud while he was parked up at a kids playground.

A self-styled “Christian patriot,” Storms led a small West Bank congregation called The Reformer Church and for 10 years hosted “The Reformer Radio Show” on WSHO. Storms has railed against the Roman Catholic church, calling it “satanic” and “demonic.”
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March 2, 2011 11:03am
malcolm

Give the man a chance, Cha:

“Storms told deputies he was having lunch at the park when he decided to urinate using a bottle instead of the restroom, the report said.” Who hasn’t done that?
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March 2, 2011 11:06am
KevinH

It is inappropriate for Bill English or any other commentator to talk about cuts to the Welfare system at this time. This debate concerning from where we source revenue for reconstruction can happen at any time in the future when the matter is at hand.
There is no problem with planning in private, or discussing general terms publicly, ie a levy, but out of respect for the deceased and displaced those matters can be attended at a later stage.
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March 2, 2011 11:10am
nasska

KevinH @ 11.10am

It pains me to have to go to bat for an economic illiterate like English but this is one time when he is damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t. The repeaters from the MSM are so desperate for copy that if he doesn’t give a statement they will probably make one up.
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March 2, 2011 11:27am
KiwiGreg

He’s Minister of Finance so hardly “a commentator”
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March 2, 2011 11:29am
bereal

nasska thanks for the advice. i have been deep underground hiding from the muslims after
saying there had never ever been a muslim with a sense of humour . i think they might have
put out a fatwa on me.
Worse still, i was scared stiff when it sounded like big bruv might be keen.
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March 2, 2011 11:30am
big bruv

KevinH

Interest free student loans is not and never has been part of the Welfare system, nor is WFF.

WFF is simply a tax cut, it is just that Labour under that idiot Kullen could not bring himself to call it that.
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March 2, 2011 11:32am
cha

WFF is simply a tax cut, it is just that Labour under that idiot Kullen could not bring himself to call it that.

So that’s how you justify taking the hand out.
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March 2, 2011 11:39am
malcolm

WFF is a targeted tax rebate which has the effect of giving certain people a very high marginal tax rate and encouraging others to reduce their apparent income via a trust in order to get it. It’s a mess and it’s certainly not a ‘tax cut’.

It’s ‘socialism by stealth’. Apparently John Key said that; he must have forgotten.
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March 2, 2011 11:43am
Shunda barunda

Well Malcolm, as a small business owner (ie GST collector for the Govt) with 4 kids, I think the deal is pretty fair.
Working for families creates a favourable environment for further business expansion and it also provides for the most important thing of all; raising the next generation.
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March 2, 2011 11:55am
Pete George

While WFF may have a degree of fairness it adds unneccesary complexity and it gives too much to too many.
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March 2, 2011 11:59am
Offshore_Kiwi

Shunda, stop for one second and think about it. As a small business owner, all WFF is doing is giving you back some of your own money. Far better for you to have kept it in the first place, rather than have the government steal it, keep some in administration and kickback costs then return a small portion to you.

WFF for people in your position is churn of the worst kind. Of course, so many are now “reliant” on it they can’t see it as that and it has become a sacred cow. Income redistribution at its worst.
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March 2, 2011 12:01pm
dime

LMAO this does sound like standard labour party behaviour.

Steve Jobs was up for a knight hood in the UK, “services to technoology”. Bill gates has one.

It was blocked by Gordon Brown. Why you ask?

According to an anonymous senior Labour MP who left Parliament in the last election, Jobs had reached the final stages of approval for “services to technology” only to be rejected in 2009 by the then-Prime Minister Gordon Brown. Why? Well, according to The Telegraph, Jobs had the audacity to turn down an offer to speak at Labour’s annual conference

BAHAHAHAHA vindictive, nasty little pricks
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March 2, 2011 12:05pm
Shunda barunda

I can accept that, but now that it is here and people are relying on it, it is a lot harder to change.
I would prefer a simple tax cut, but I also think the idea of helping families specifically can only good for our society.
Any changes would have to be done in a gradual transition, it would create havoc if it wasn’t.
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March 2, 2011 12:08pm
cha

i think they might have put out a fatwa on me.

Here’s a fatwa for ya bereal.
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March 2, 2011 12:08pm
Offshore_Kiwi

WADR Shunda, that’s nonsense. It is my sincere hope (note, I hope I do not expect) that the intellectual midget from Dipton will be spending his days quietly working out how to bring New Zealand back from the brink of economic collapse. It is my opinion that the best way to accomplish this is to implement, in a sensible, staged manner, the recommendations from the four Working Groups that have been set up to advise the government (2025 Taskforce, Welfare WG, Tax WG, Savings WG).

New Zealand and New Zealanders *must* be cured of their addiction to other people’s money (and, in the case of WFF, getting some of their own money back and thinking it’s other people’s).

Note that doing this is not an appropriate response to the Christchurch tragedy (it would take too long) but a way to cure New Zealand of its collective economic suicide pact, reverse decades of velvet glove socialism and actually get some real growth into the economy.

Cue leftard outrage in 3…2…1…
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March 2, 2011 12:18pm
RightNow

Terry Serepisos is reported to be offering a 50% stake in the Phoenix to Ahsan Ali Syed, and may have also sought loans from him: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10707578

In Australia a man named Ahsan Ali Syed is linked to an alleged loans scam, receiving $30 million in fees without any loans eventuating: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/4721821/Australian-investors-cry-foul-over-loans-scheme

Speculation that they are the same person would seem reasonable. Has Terry been scammed?
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March 2, 2011 12:19pm
thedavincimode

Malcolm

That lemon infused linguine is fantastic. No need for more lemon. Seasoning break-through to report – sumac, sliced chilli and chilli oil to top up if need be (plus salt and garlic of course with onion/shallots. mmmmmmmmmm.

Outstanding. (Thought you should know now rather than waiting for GD recipe day.)
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March 2, 2011 12:19pm
redeye

You gotta love the entrepreneurial Cantabs.

Bid on this http://www.trademe.co.nz/357989041
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March 2, 2011 12:26pm
RRM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4721201/Christchurch-quake-Israel-unhappy-over-search-for-its-nationals

Anti-semitism rears its ugly head in Chch apparently.

Murray, Redbaiter, GO!!!
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March 2, 2011 12:34pm
Gooner

What’s with this extra tax on those who can afford it which is described as those “earning over $100k per annum”?

Who says those people can afford it? Is it automatically assumed those earners have no debt and have plenty of disposable income?
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March 2, 2011 12:36pm
DJP6-25

Manolo 8:28am. If he steps down now, he might still make it to the Home for Retired and Deposed Dictators In Riyadh. I understand the former Saddam Insane complex is currently vacant.

I wonder if he has some bank accounts in the Cayman Islands to supplement his Swiss ones? They’re a bit squeamish now about providing a repository for ex dictators ill gotten gains.

cheers

David Prosser
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March 2, 2011 1:08pm
DJP6-25

Manolo 8:42 am. Yes, the grown ups are flexing their muscles. About time too.

cheers

David Prosser
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March 2, 2011 1:10pm
cha

WRT the middle east and Oman in particular the CS Monitor has a good article about why Oman is different.

The Sultan made education a priority. Today, the country has more than 1,000 public schools and more than 40 institutions of higher education, both public and private. Over those 40 years, Oman experienced one of the steepest climbs up the human development index run by the UN Development Program – outperforming even China’s rise.

Oil, of course, helped the country develop, but so too did Qaboos’s decision to funnel much of the oil money into education and heavy industry.
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March 2, 2011 1:16pm
Manolo

Incredible amount of money wasted on the memory of a deeply corrupt American politician.

In the 2009 federal budget, $5,813,000 was appropriated to the project through the Labor Department and Department of Health & Human Services spending bill. In the 2010 budget, $13,600,000 was funneled through the from the Department of Labor and the Department of Health and Human Services and another $18,900,000 through the Defense Department spending bill.

In April of last year, Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry and Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Edward Markey attempted to insert another $8 million more in the now defunct Omnibus bill.

With $38.3 million already in the Institutes’s coffers and Kennedy’s wife Vicki pushing hard for more, Andre Lafferty and the Traditional Values Coalition are keeping a sharp eye, hoping to prevent any more federal funds from going to Kennedy’s centre.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/01/brothel-wing-kennedy/
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March 2, 2011 1:44pm
shady

I know this was yesterday’s discussion point, but I’ve just been made aware of this article.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-10-21/science/28264505_1_earthquake-magnitude-seismologist

It would appear that seismologists have been studying the effect of the moon on earthquakes – and according to their studies, Ken Ring should probably be afforded more consideration.
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March 2, 2011 2:12pm
Pete George

Shady, it is generally accepted that the moon can have some influence on earthquakes. What has not been proven is being able to predict the place, time and size of earthquakes by any method, and it’s absurd to think the moon influence could be used to predict with any useful degree of accuracy.

I haven’t seen any prediction from Ring that has any useful degree of accuracy. Insinuating accuracy (which Ring does, especially after the event) is causing Christchurch people problems.
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March 2, 2011 2:30pm
side show bob

Bet mad dog Gaddafi is filling his pants, Libya just been kicked out of the human rights council and all. What a total waste of space the UN is, weak as weasel piss. Why anyone should fear these bureaucratic limp wrist-ed idiots is beyond me.
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March 2, 2011 2:51pm
Manolo

Where there is smoke there is fire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8356132/Leading-Republican-claims-Barack-Obama-grew-up-in-Kenya.html

Leading Republican claims Barack Obama grew up in Kenya

A possible Republican presidential candidate suggested in a radio interview that President Barack Obama’s childhood in Kenya shaped his world-view – even though Mr Obama did not visit Kenya until he was in his 20s.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told a New York radio station on Monday that Mr Obama’s youth led him to resent the West, which he said explains why Mr Obama’s foreign policy differs so greatly from that of his predecessors.

“One thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, is very different than the average American,” Mr Huckabee said, pointing to Mr Obama’s decision in 2009 to return a bust of former Prime Minister Winston Churchill.
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March 2, 2011 3:00pm
Pete George

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Do you mean if one Republican presidential hopeful is full of shit all of them are full of shit?

I don’t think so, but this must rule Huckabee out of serious contention. Of all the things available to diss Obama for he picks nutter nonsense.
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March 2, 2011 3:04pm
malcolm

@thedavincimode

Thanks for the pointer I’ll give it a try. I recall seeing Jamie Oliver dress linguine in a lemon/olive oil emulsion. We have a pasta machine now so have been making extra wide fettuccine and lots of ravioli. Fresh spinach and ricotta ravioli in sage butter is very sexy. Lots of fun to make as well. The wife and I can knock out a 100 or so big ravs in about an hour and as yet we haven’t come to blows. Quite extraordinary. I’ve been doing a fresh fettuccine with savoy cabbage and bacon and a light white wine and cream sauce.

Umm. hungry now.
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March 2, 2011 3:18pm
cha

Oh my….

>”Governor Huckabee simply misspoke when he alluded to President Obama growing up in ‘Kenya.’ The Governor meant to say the President grew up in Indonesia,” Huckabee’s political action committee director Hogan Gidley told ABC. However, Kenya was under British rule, while Indonesia was under Dutch control.
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March 2, 2011 3:35pm
Manolo

Indoctrination by the followers of the religion of peace.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361725/Video-children-playing-suicide-bomb-game-circulates-Pakistan.html
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March 2, 2011 4:21pm
starboard

Love this…courtesy gotcha blog..

Politicians are interested in people.
Not that this is always a virtue.
Fleas are interested in dogs.

PJ O’Rourke
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March 2, 2011 6:49pm
Manolo

Now the racists want to choose the judge. Incredible!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4725262/Group-seeks-Maori-judge-to-settle-waka-ownership

Group seeks Maori judge to settle waka ownership

Maori parties to the legal dispute over Wellington’s waka have asked for a leading Maori judge to be in charge of a settlement conference.

Wellington City Council lawyer Craig Stevens called the request “surprising”, and High Court judge Forrie Miller said it could be misinterpreted as “judge shopping”.

The council is suing Te Runanganui O Taranaki Whanui Ki Te Upoko O Te Ika A Maui Association and Te Maori Cultural Centre in Lower Hutt for the return of the waka Te Raukura. The two parties asked for Justice Joe Williams to be in charge of a court-based settlement conference. Justice Williams, a fluent speaker of Maori, was formerly chief Maori Land Court judge and Waitangi Tribunal chairman.
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March 3, 2011 7:34am
Manolo

Another comparison between the Messiah and Carter’s administrations:

You need to watch only a few minutes of cable news analysis to realise just how ludicrous our national energy policies have become. As escalating tensions and chaos unfold in Egypt, Libya and other Middle Eastern nations, one energy analyst suggested that if Libyan oil supplies were to fail, the United States would rely on Saudi Arabia for its oil needs. If that statement alone doesn’t put U.S. leaders on red alert, the looming national energy crisis may soon become reality.

The Obama administration is repeating the mistakes of President Jimmy Carter’s failed energy policies, which marred his term and stigmatised the 1970s. They are leading us straight into another national energy disaster.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50417.html
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March 3, 2011 8:52am
KiwiGreg

” one energy analyst suggested that if Libyan oil supplies were to fail, the United States would rely on Saudi Arabia for its oil needs. ”

Clkearly not one with any idea of where US oil comes from for starters.
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