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February 19, 2011 8:26am by David Farrar

General Debate 19 February 2011

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reid

“are you drinking/drunk…?”

No at the mo I’m dressed as a pirate pretending I’m an actor in Peter Jackson’s Tintin movie, in the fight scene where Red Rackham’s fighting Sir Francis Haddock.

Why?
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February 19, 2011 9:41pm
philu

“..in my conservative club, where we laugh and sneer at the workers serving us our drinks, getting our food etc…”

another one of those ones that reflects worst on the writer…not the target…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 19, 2011 9:46pm
Black with a Vengeance

Apologies for my momentary lapse of reason reid. It seems you still don’t want to debate but would rather insult. Congratulations! Once again you win the internet, my friend.
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February 19, 2011 9:49pm
reid

another one of those ones that reflects worst on the writer…not the target…

Really? I thought the whole para is quite humerous especially when I start talking about you in it but I’m not surprised you didn’t quote that bit.
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February 19, 2011 9:50pm
reid

Apologies for my momentary lapse of reason reid. It seems you still don’t want to debate but would rather insult. Congratulations! Once again you win the internet, my friend.

Black I did ask for facts. You said female Maori and PIs are held down. I said why?

Got an answer, or are you too wounded to continue?
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February 19, 2011 9:51pm
bhudson

BWAV,

“What you got in a female Maori or PI flavour, because of course they have the same equality of opportunity and freedom of choice, don’t they reid ??”

Well there were both Sir Apirana Ngata (first Maori to hold the position of Acting PM if my recollection of history serves me right) and Te Rangi Hiroa.

Now they were both over 100 years ago. That’s not such a bad start BWAV, And things have improved since then.
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February 19, 2011 9:52pm
Nookin

Wasn’t there a Francis Haddock who was in an English comedy series about a charming old bugger who demonstrated the oddities of the legal system? I can recall one episode when he wrote a cheque on the side of a cow and forced a bank to accept it as legal tender.Nowadays you would probably take the cow and forget the cheque.
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February 19, 2011 9:57pm
philu

“..I thought the whole para is quite humerous ..”

which bits exactly..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 19, 2011 9:58pm
Rodders

Francis Haddock? Sounds fishy to me 😉
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February 19, 2011 10:02pm
Nookin

It was Albert Haddock in Misleading Cases and the cow was presented to IRD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Inland_Revenue_v_Haddock
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February 19, 2011 10:03pm
reid

which bits exactly..?

Smart lefties of course laugh and sneer at all of you dumb ones and I know this because I regularly get together with them in my conservative club, where we laugh and sneer at the workers serving us our drinks, getting our food etc.

They really do think you’re all a bunch of morons you know. Especially you phil. The ones from the Greens are the worst. You should hear what they say about you, as we laugh and sneer at you over our port and cigars.
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February 19, 2011 10:04pm
adze

It sounds familiar Rodders, but I can’t quite plaice him…
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February 19, 2011 10:04pm
Rodders

Thanks for the link, Nookin & the pun, Adze.
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February 19, 2011 10:06pm
Nookin

I thinks it’s a red herrring.
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February 19, 2011 10:07pm
Rodders

I have to admit that when I read the description of “a charming old bugger who demonstrated the oddities of the legal system”, “Fair Go” came to mind.
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February 19, 2011 10:12pm
reid

Seriously, does anyone know Captain Haddock’s christian name? It just occurred to me I don’t think I’ve ever read it. Sir Francis as we know was his ancestor.

??
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February 19, 2011 10:16pm
Nookin

Kevin Milne? He is a charming old bugger. Saw him at a book presentation. A delightful speaker. Kerre Woodham was there too. Funny as
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February 19, 2011 10:20pm
adze

Reid – Archibald, according to Wiki, although that was only suggested quite late in the series.
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February 19, 2011 10:23pm
philu

what exactly is funny about that…?

y’know..!..in a ha-ha..!..that’s clever kinda way..?

i mean…anyone can string together insults/make shit up…eh..?

even knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers like obese sibling can do that…eh..?

is that all ya got..?

‘oh..how we laughed at you…at the club..’?

meh..!

eh..?

as dumb and funny as a door-knob…eh…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 19, 2011 10:24pm
Nookin

Archibald

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Haddock
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February 19, 2011 10:24pm
reid

Cheers guys

‘oh..how we laughed at you…at the club..’?

Yes we did phil, we laughed and laughed, again and again and again.

i mean…anyone can string together insults/make shit up…eh..?

So what about the substantial point in my original post phil, You haven’t addressed that.
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February 19, 2011 10:28pm
big bruv

reid

I know this is going to sound a bit rich coming from me but how about we just ignore the parasite?

He is clearly trolling yet DPF does not seem inclined to do anything about it.

I realise that what he has to say is irrelevant and does not get under anybodies skin but he does have a habit of destroying every thread he decides to pollute.

So, why don’t we just ignore the prick?
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February 19, 2011 10:39pm
philu

um..!..reid..

has anyone ever suggested that you should try to get your own life..

and not live others’ vicariously..?

you are getting very weird…

almost fanboy-stalky..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 19, 2011 10:43pm
Rodders

Talking of door knobs, here is one way to scare off burglars

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ministry/3728594835/
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February 19, 2011 10:46pm
Nookin

Changing the subject slightly — does anyone use voice recognition software –either blogging or otherwise?
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February 19, 2011 10:55pm
Black with a Vengeance

“What you got in a female Maori or PI flavour, because of course they have the same equality of opportunity and freedom of choice, don’t they reid ??”

Well there were both Sir Apirana Ngata (first Maori to hold the position of Acting PM if my recollection of history serves me right) and Te Rangi Hiroa.

Both fine upstanding ladies of good countenance they were too 🙂

reid seems to be labouring under the illusion that any Maori woman can, by simple choice of action, become the next Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Richard Branson or Larry Ellison.

Surely, bhudson, you’re not in agreeance ?
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February 19, 2011 11:23pm
joana

Tunisia…Jihadists murder Polish Catholic priest.
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February 19, 2011 11:28pm
Manolo

The barbarians are not only at the gate, but they have invaded the house, already.
Fined for telling the truth. Incredible!

Austrian Court Upholds Islam’s Blasphemy Rules

Today, Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, a young Viennese mother, was convicted under section 283 of the Austrian penal code of vilifying religious teachings for her negative commentary on Islam in a lecture before a political-party gathering in Vienna; she was fined 480 Euros.

Sabaditsch-Wolff, a diplomat’s daughter, had lived and worked for several years in various Middle Eastern Muslim countries, and at the lecture in question spoke critically of the treatment of women and the practice of jihad in Iran, Libya, and other places that she had lived in.

The court found that Austria’s free-speech guarantees protected her from hate-speech charges.

However, it seems the case turned on the judge’s reasoning that her statement that Islam’s prophet Mohammed was a “pedophile” was defamatory since his child bride Aisha (age six at the time of marriage and nine at the time it was consummated) remained his wife when she turned 18.

The case was brought by prosecutors after complaints by a mainstream Austrian weekly magazine that had secretly taped and then wrote about her lecture. She plans to appeal.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/259796/austrian-court-upholds-islam-s-blasphemy-rules-nina-shea
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February 20, 2011 7:11am
bhudson

BWAV,

“Both fine upstanding ladies of good countenance they were too :)”

Haha. Yes indeed – I assumed a comma after female. Possibly because there is a dearth of them on so many comments in the thread 🙂

As for being in agreement or not, I agree that all of us are able to achieve more for ourselves if we choose to make the most of the opportunities given to us here in NZ. Free education is a very good example of something our society provides for us all to help us develop our potential.

I think it was Gary Player who remarked “The more I practice, the luckier I get.”
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February 20, 2011 7:38am
Manolo

I agree that all of us are able to achieve more for ourselves if we choose to make the most of the opportunities given to us here in NZ.

Hell, no! Why do I have to study and work hard if I can sit on my back, relax, leave school early, and become an idler leaving off the unemployment benefit.

In the process, I might get lucky impregnating a few birds and making them worthy recipients of the DPB, since I will bugger off and forget about those pesky children. The fun is in fathering them.

I can buy smokes, fast food, Sky TV, and plenty of drink with taxpayer’s money, so why should I bother looking for work? And if I need more money I can always resort to terrorising a chemist or two using a weapon.

Leave work to the fools who want to get ahead in life. I don’t, because I’m unskilled, thick, my brain is addled with drugs, and overall I’m happy being a parasite.
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February 20, 2011 8:03am
Manolo

The venal Peter speaks and fingers McCully:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10707499

Winston Peters says the Government has pestered him to accept an overseas ambassadorship – to get him out of politics and out of the country.

Prime Minister John Key has publicly stated he will not work with the NZ First leader but Peters says he’s been getting very different messages behind the scenes.

He says he was approached on behalf of Murray McCully, foreign affairs minister and National Party strategist, in 2009 and last year, a claim McCully denies.

Speaking to the Herald on Sunday, he said the first mention of a diplomatic posting was a phone-call from Richard Griffin, the political insider who was previously a top adviser to Prime Minister Jim Bolger.

The second was from a former political figure who he refused to name. Both said they had been asked by McCully to act as go-betweens.
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February 20, 2011 8:07am
Manolo

Thuggish young natives who do not know the meaning of the symbol.

Vandals paint swastika on Northland sports stadium

Ground staff have painted out about 10 slogans, including a swastika, at Toll Stadium in Whangarei where the Warriors meet the Burleigh Bears in a pre-season game tonight.

Vandals got onto the ground overnight and left their handiwork over about a third of the stadium grounds, said stadium manager John Lynch. There was nine or 10 different markings over about a third of the field. It was spasmodic, no damage to the field.
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