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January 22, 2011 8:47am by David Farrar

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AlphaKiwi

What’s your plan to improve New Zealand?
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January 22, 2011 8:55am
MyNameIsJack

Close the borders to Chinese.
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January 22, 2011 8:57am
Mark

“”We also need to be making sure our kids are competitive internationally and Cambridge does that. It is internationally recognised so in some ways perhaps John Morris is way ahead.” – Tolley

The minister said she was not knocking NCEA.”

Tolley has joined John Morris and flipped the bird at her own ministry. It appears we now have to look for those schools who offer Cambridge or IB to give our kids the option of an internationally acceptable qualification.
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January 22, 2011 9:04am
Manolo

The South Korean way of dealing with this problem. Excellent.

South Korean special forces stormed a hijacked freighter in the Arabian Sea on Friday, rescuing all 21 crew members and killing eight assailants in a rare and bold raid on Somali pirates, South Korea said.

The military operation in waters between Oman and Africa, which also captured five pirates and left one crew member wounded, came a week after the Somali attackers seized the South Korean freighter and held hostage eight South Koreans, two Indonesians and eleven citizens from Myanmar.

“We will not tolerate any behaviour that threatens the lives and safety of our people in the future,” South Korean President Lee Myung-bak said in a brief televised statement, adding that the rescue was a “perfect operation.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/01/20/somali-pirates-seize-ship-vietnamese-crew/
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January 22, 2011 9:06am
Viking2

Remove the waste generated by Govt. local bodies and busy bodies. e.g. The unintended consequences of these kinds of rules. Interference in other peoples business.

Finance company fails over capital ratio law
TAMLYN STEWART
Last updated 05:00 22/01/2011

Christchurch finance company Finance & Leasing says its inability to meet the new Reserve Bank capital ratio requirements has forced it into receivership – and that it’s not the only company in that position.

Director Kipp Alexander said the company had remained solvent throughout the financial crisis and recession, but because it could not meet the requirements in time, it could not obtain approval from the Companies Office for its prospectus extension, which was lodged in December.

The company’s loans in the property sector represented 47 per cent of the total value of its loans, but the actual loans numbered only six, Mr Alexander said, and the company had no option but to go into receivership despite being solvent.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/4568978/Finance-company-fails-over-capital-ratio-law
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January 22, 2011 9:08am
Put it away

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4569237/Child-sex-offender-caught-in-bed-with-14-year-old

It is understood a probation officer discovered Shane Frederick Stoneham, 26, in bed with a 14-year-old girl at a Porirua address on November 22 last year. She had been reported missing by her family, but she said after the incident that she loved Stoneham.

All class, Porirua. All class.
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January 22, 2011 9:11am
Viking2

The God botherers at it again.

Church’s $1.2m IRD bill an ‘honest mistake’
JIMMY ELLINGHAM
Last updated 13:00 21/01/2011

Inland Revenue is taking a church to court, chasing a $1.2 million tax bill.

However, the Levin church at the centre of the claim says it is simply an honest mistake it hopes can be resolved out of court.

The IRD has filed to put the Samoan Methodist Church into liquidation over about $730,000 unpaid PAYE and $500,000 in outstanding GST – a total of $1,232,118.15, including interest and penalties.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/4564933/Churchs-1-2m-IRD-bill-an-honest-mistake
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January 22, 2011 9:17am
Manolo

The rotund Trotter analises the uncouth Harawira and warns National:

Hone Harawira is fast becoming the “Great Brown Hope” of the New Zealand Left. And you don’t have to be a political scientist to see why.

His extraordinary column in last Sunday’s Sunday Star-Times makes it brutally clear that the relationship between the National-led Government and the Maori Party will not survive the current parliamentary term.

Unless the National Party is able to do what hasn’t been done since 1951 and secure a majority of the votes cast, the Maori Party’s imminent Left-turn places the Government’s re-election chances entirely in the hands of ACT – and the Epsom voters.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/4564753/Harawira-digs-in-as-the-Lefts-favourite-warrior
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January 22, 2011 9:19am
Viking2

ee Nick Smith has done a lot for people in his area.

Dole queue at seven-year high
LAURA BASHAM
Last updated 13:00 21/01/2011

More than 1000 workers in the Nelson region are now on the unemployment benefit – the highest in seven years.

Ministry of Social Development figures show 1020 workers in the Nelson region receiving the dole at the end of last month. That’s up from 862 at the end of September and up from 735 at December last year.

Work and Income regional commissioner for social development Janine Dowding said while there was usually an increase at the end of the year as students finished study, this time there was more competition for jobs such as pipfruit thinning.

The increase has been attributed to small business closures or large businesses cutting staff numbers and not replacing workers who leave, combined with a plentiful labour supply and high competition for available jobs, she said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/4565695/Dole-queue-at-seven-year-high
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January 22, 2011 9:21am
Pongo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/8272674/EU-says-half-of-countries-trading-carbon-are-poorly-protected-against-fraud.html

An article for Nick Smith, love the bit where they estimate 90% of carbon trading in some countries is fradulent.
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January 22, 2011 9:23am
Manolo

Two illiterates: the brute gangster and his lawyer:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4569057/Sieg-heil-its-just-a-way-of-saying-hi-to-the-bros

When he pleaded guilty to the charge in Napier District Court yesterday, Judge Adeane said, “What’s this sieg heil business, Mr Hungahunga? … What does that mean?”

“Ahhh, it’s just another way of saying hi to the bros,” Hungahunga replied.

“OK. The man who made the phrase popular would have a very different way of dealing with you, Mr Hungahunga. However, today you’re fined $300 and court costs of $130,” the judge said.

As Hungahunga left the dock, his lawyer Philip Jensen remarked that “it was a German phrase popular in the 60s in the Commando comics”.

“Actually it goes back a bit further than that, Mr Jensen. It was made popular in the 30s when very different rules applied,” Judge Adeane said.
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January 22, 2011 9:24am
Inventory2

MyNameIsWinstonPeters said

Close the borders to Chinese.

Another GD stuffed two comments in.
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January 22, 2011 9:24am
dad4justice

“More than 1000 workers in the Nelson region are now on the unemployment benefit – the highest in seven years.”

That’s trivial compared to the Canterbury WINZ queues. Got any ideas Nutional ? Didn’t think so. Keep smiling and do nothing is normal kiwi government. Brainless gits need a lesson!
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January 22, 2011 9:28am
Manolo

More of our money wasted by the incompetent Nick Smith. After all, what’s $2 million?

Economist Gareth Morgan is to a head a new motorcycle safety council funded out of ACC levies.

The Motorcycle Safety Levy Advisory Council was launched at Parliament today and will receive $2 million a year from the motorcycle safety levy of $30 introduced in July.

ACC Minister Nick Smith said it followed Transport Minister Steven Joyce’s announcement last year of measures to tackle growing issues of motorcycle and moped safety.

“We need government agencies and motorcycle organisations working together to reverse the ugly and deadly trend over the past decade in motorcycle accidents,” Dr Smith said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/4565955/Government-picks-Morgan
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January 22, 2011 9:32am
Manolo

An article for Nick Smith, love the bit where they estimate 90% of carbon trading in some countries is fradulent.

How you dare to challenge the integrity of the marvellous system to be implemented under the watch of that genius Dr. Nick Smith?

Our ETS legislation leads the world, and NZ is a trailblazer showing the whole universe how to tax its own citizens.
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January 22, 2011 9:36am
Manolo

Where there is smoke, there is fire:
Hawaii governor claims record of Obama’s birth ‘exists in archives’ but he cannot produce the vital document

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html
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January 22, 2011 9:40am
niggly

The rotund Trotter analises the uncouth Harawira and warns National:

Hone Harawira is fast becoming the “Great Brown Hope” of the New Zealand Left. And you don’t have to be a political scientist to see why.

Frankly I wouldn’t trust anything Trotter says when in relation to the Maori Party, he has been on their case since they were formed and paints them as (esp their leadership) as being “elite” and out of touch with their membership.

Sharples and Turia – elite? Yeah, right, Trotter!

As for Harawira being the great hope of the Left? Yeah, right, Trotter!

Harawira has similarities to Winston – given a chance to make a difference (a la the rest of the Maori Party MP’s) – like Winston, Harawira would prefer to self destruct but in the name of purity and arrogance etc.

Trotter is trying the divide and conquer angle, playing up Harawira’s cred (he represents far north iwi for gawd’s sake, not the rest of Maoridom), and trying to scare the voters to believe National will lurch far-right with ACT etc. That is, vote Labour and Greens for a stable country – gawd, imagine Labour + Greens, that would be worse than any National/Maori Party or National/ACT or National/Maori Party/ACT combo like we have now!

Nice try Trotter, after a few years of spinning this shit, people might be stupid enough to believe him!
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January 22, 2011 9:41am
MyNameIsJack

Sarah Palin backer Rush Limbaugh would never be a racist, no one on the right is ever racist.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201101190024

Nope, Rush Limbaugh isn’t a racist, he is just a dumbass.
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January 22, 2011 9:44am
Monique Watson

We need to get our roads, rail and other infrastructure sorted, increase the level of retirement savings, build our capital markets, incentivise young professionals not to take skills off shore, reduce unemployment and foster unity. If we get all this right, there is huge potential for New Zealand to enter a Golden Age, (as those who play Civilization will attest. 🙂

To do all this in one fell swoop, establish new entitities initially following the SOE model but with the aim of divesting shares into the hands of the general public via the workers or NZ based consortiums. If you started a phase of roman road building, it would pull masses off the benefits.

Provide incentives to stay working and build financial knowledge by installing an employee share programme for long service etc. Make the shares fully tradeable on the NZX. In ten years you’ve got fibre, roads and rail through Africa. Heck we could even get a rocket into space.

Selling existing SOE’s is going to go down like a ton of the proverbial with the voting public, but there are other ways to get assests into private ownership to increase the capital markets.

Oh and establish a new public holiday where the Black Caps challenge the world’s top team. I’d even sacrifice Wellington public holiday if we had the cricket here.
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January 22, 2011 9:44am
Put it away

“Inland Revenue is taking a church to court, chasing a $1.2 million tax bill.”

Why is god always so short of money?
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January 22, 2011 9:45am
Thrash Cardiom

More of our money wasted by the incompetent Nick Smith. After all, what’s $2 million?

If a safety campaign costing $2 million significantly reduces motorcycle accidents thereby reducing the total cost to the country then it would be money well spent considering the social costs of a fatal accident were measured at $3.50 million per accident back in 2004/2005. 50 motorcyclist deaths per year is a huge cost to the country.
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January 22, 2011 9:56am
Offshore_Kiwi

Manolo (re the Sieg Heil comment), (1) how the hell did this Jensen make it through high school (and the university) and not know this basic fact about the Nazi regime? Kinda speaks volumes about our state indoctrination centres, doesn’t it? (2) fucking hilarious that (because a very educated lawyer didn’t know where the saying originated) the Dom Post takes it upon itself to plug his spectacular hole in the education system by explaining it, in the third para of the article.

A cracking good laugh to start a miserable Melbourne morning.

(Re the motorcycle safety council comment) this must be the bone given to Morgan. “Gareth, we think your tax and economic ideas are crazy; they might just have the effect of stopping New Zealand’s slide into third-world status and we can’t have that. But here’s a bone for all your hard work.” And he’s a fucking moron for snapping at the bone.
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January 22, 2011 9:57am
BeaB

Mark
NCEA is internationally recognised, whatever that means.
If it means getting into overseas universities then NCEA is fully recognised but the fact is very few NZers go overseas for their undergraduate degree so NCEA (or IB or Cambridge) is irrelevant because post-graduate entry will be on the basis of undergraduate results. It’s a bit of a red herring to keep banging on about but it has an impressive sort of ring to it to talk about “internationally recognised” high school qualifications even if it is totally meaningless for the vast majority of kids.
On the other hand, international quals like Cambridge do give you some kind of comparison (if that is important – I am not sure why I would want to know for instance whether my son was achieving at the same level as his counterpart in Botswana or Belize) but it is not a controlled study like PISA (an excellent international rating that gives a clear picture of where our kids are across a range of subjects and levels). However, the Australian tests that many of our kids do also give some kind of comparison if it is so important to you.
I just think it’s a pity so many parents are suckers for this kind of PR and marketing. I always recommend picking the nearest good state school (where you are most likely to find the best teachers), spending your spare dollars on family travel and activities and setting a good example yourself by being a reader and lifelong learner.
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January 22, 2011 10:01am
Offshore_Kiwi

Thrash, that’s exactly the kind of fucked-up thought processes we expect from you lefties. Motor cycle riding is dangerous. Danger = bad. Solution to bad always = new government intervention.

How about, instead of wasting yet another $2 million we can’t afford, we explain during the licencing process to learner motorcyclists why it is the rest of the world refers to them as “organ donation units”? At worst, why don’t we make it a condition of receiving a motorcycle licence oh, I dunno, being able to ride a fucking motorbike?
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January 22, 2011 10:02am
nickb

This is interesting:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10701235

Selling existing SOE’s is going to go down like a ton of the proverbial with the voting public

Why?

Only if they suck up the spin by left wing morons. I would hope most NZers would have more sense than to listen to Labour or the Greens.

Unfortunately I do not see National selling SOE’s any time soon.
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January 22, 2011 10:02am
jims_whare

Latest stupid lawsuit out of the US…..

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc-man-sues-vegas-hooker-for-refund-20110121-ncx

What a moron……I tell ya what there are some clever Yanks and some stoopid Yanks. This guy is a stoopid yank in case ya cant tell
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January 22, 2011 10:02am
MT_Tinman

Manolo (2,853) Says:
January 22nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Two illiterates: the brute gangster and his lawyer:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4569057/Sieg-heil-its-just-a-way-of-saying-hi-to-the-bros

When he pleaded guilty to the charge in Napier District Court yesterday, Judge Adeane said, “What’s this sieg heil business, Mr Hungahunga? … What does that mean?”

“Ahhh, it’s just another way of saying hi to the bros,” Hungahunga replied.

“OK. The man who made the phrase popular would have a very different way of dealing with you, Mr Hungahunga. However, today you’re fined $300 and court costs of $130,” the judge said.

As Hungahunga left the dock, his lawyer Philip Jensen remarked that “it was a German phrase popular in the 60s in the Commando comics”.

“Actually it goes back a bit further than that, Mr Jensen. It was made popular in the 30s when very different rules applied,” Judge Adeane said.

I’m glad you highlighted that, it quite disgusted me when I read it.

I admit I have no idea what the words “Seig” and “Heil” actually mean just that they were used by the populace attending political rallies in Nurembergh to honor their leader who turned out to be not a very nice man.

Two quite legitimate words in a foreign language are now illegal because a group of foreigners shouted them 70 years ago.

I have no time for gangs, nor the lawyers that defend them (badly in this case it seems) but this judge and his (no doubt jackbooted) cohort policeman are a damned sight more dangerous to NZers freedom of thought and speech than a pathetic thug who is brave when in a crowd.
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January 22, 2011 10:47am
david

Manolo … “The rotund Trotter analises the uncouth Harawira and warns National:” LOL

I know Trotter is called a commentator and as such must conduct analyses but the image of him stuffing John Hatfield alias Hone Harawira up his nether regions quite put me off my brunch.
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January 22, 2011 10:59am
reid

As Hungahunga left the dock, his lawyer Philip Jensen remarked that “it was a German phrase popular in the 60s in the Commando comics”.

“Actually it goes back a bit further than that, Mr Jensen. It was made popular in the 30s when very different rules applied,” Judge Adeane said.

If I were the judge I would have asked Phil if this was the case then why didn’t his client chose to yell out something like “Gott in himmel” or “Donna und Blitzen” or “Achtung” then.

I admit I have no idea what the words “Seig” and “Heil” actually mean just that they were used by the populace attending political rallies in Nurembergh to honor their leader who turned out to be not a very nice man.

So you really don’t understand the import of those words when yelled out to the cops as they conduct a public operation MT? My you have led a sheltered life haven’t you. If the law was written as you appear to suggest it should be, then anyone would be free to say anything at all to the cops, in public, on the grounds of free speech. And if that happened, just how do you think people like gangs and others who hate the police because they curtail what they think they should be entitled to do, would do then? And would that be a good thing, or a bad thing?
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January 22, 2011 11:19am
Thrash Cardiom

How about, instead of wasting yet another $2 million we can’t afford, we explain during the licencing process to learner motorcyclists why it is the rest of the world refers to them as “organ donation units”? At worst, why don’t we make it a condition of receiving a motorcycle licence oh, I dunno, being able to ride a fucking motorbike?

Maybe because that isn’t likely to do anything to reduce the ongoing cost of $150+ million per year caused by 50 dead motorcyclists. I’m pretty sure that most motorcyclists recognise how dangerous riding bikes is – at least all the ones I know are very well aware. It doesn’t stop them from being wiped out from time to time though.
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January 22, 2011 11:23am
reid

A very good editorial on Harawira and what does the MP have to lose by sacking him?

Activists who cannot make the transition are a waste of parliamentary salary. The sooner he goes the better.
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January 22, 2011 11:24am
Thrash Cardiom

Dr Smith said the plan was based on successful overseas models, such as in Victoria, Australia which he visited last year.

In Victoria motorcycle deaths and serious injuries had been cut by 20 per cent since a specific motorcycle safety levy programme and council was introduced in 2002.

If the plan is based on successful schemes from overseas that have produced a 20% cut in deaths and injuries then it is money very well spent. $2 million spent to reduce $30 million in costs.
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January 22, 2011 11:30am
bereal

Some of these haters are funny eh ?

Take, ‘ My Name is Jack ‘ off, for example.

He hates Sarah Palin
He hates Rush Limbaugh
He hates The Pope
He hates all Catholics
He hates Chinese
He hates Ann Coulter
He hates Christine O’Donnell
He hates Amerika
He hates John McCain
He hates God
He hates the Tea Party
He hates Fox news
He hates Asians
He hates all religions
He hates a huge list of correspondents on this blog
And thats just since Monday

Like others of his ilk he has a derogatory, insulting, infantile name for everything he hates.
i particularly like, The Whore of Wassilla, he REALLY hates her.

Consumed with hatred is an understatement.
You have to wonder how it effects his health.

Funny eh ?
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January 22, 2011 11:58am
Fletch

More than 40 African-American religious and political leaders get together to decry the Left’s stealing of the term “civil rights” and the misrepresentation of Martin Luther King’s legacy for their own pushes for homosexual and other rights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt85NP8KWn8&feature=player_embedded#!

Of course, most of the MSM ignored it, because it doesn’t gel with their liberal agenda.
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January 22, 2011 11:59am
kowtow

Manolo @906.

That story about zapping pirates cheered me up no end.
Good on the Koreans.
Meanwhile western navies (hamstrung by their govts and bullshit UN rules and human rights laws )fluff around like a bunch of idiots chasing these murderers and thieves only to release them or pretend to bring them to justice in Kenya or even back to Germany for trial!
When this farce started the once great Royal Navy were placed in a quandary about arrest as it turns out the pirates might have been able to claim asylum in Britain!

Oh for the days of true leadership and justice when a gunboat or frigate would have sailed into the pirates lair and loosed off a broadside to send the bastards to where they belong. And any captured swiftly hanged.
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January 22, 2011 12:14pm
Mark

BeaB I do not necessarily disagree with you but Tolley clearly does.

“We also need to be making sure our kids are competitive internationally and Cambridge does that. It is internationally recognised so in some ways perhaps John Morris is way ahead”

Tolley by that statement is clearly suggesting NCEA does not make our kids internationally competitive. I am at a loss as to how any other interpretation could be placed on it. If that is the case she needs to explain why she is denying all kids the same opportunity in our state schools.
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January 22, 2011 12:16pm
MyNameIsJack

Fletch (1,794) Says:

January 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
More than 40 African-American religious and political leaders get together to decry the Left’s stealing of the term “civil rights” and the misrepresentation of Martin Luther King’s legacy for their own pushes for homosexual and other rights.

maybe, just maybe, its because the world has woken up to the fact that anything said from a religious viewpoint is a)biased, B) bullfucking shit, c) no longer newsworthy, d) they can afford to buy their own soapbox and e) religion no longer confers a special place in the community.

Why send journalists to listen to same old same old tired bullshit from a book that should have been burned centuries ago.

PS – taking orders now for my latest t-Shirt A picture of Jesus with the caption “if you don’t sin, Jesus died for nothing”.
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January 22, 2011 12:26pm
Redbaiter

“If the plan is based on successful schemes from overseas that have produced a 20% cut in deaths and injuries then it is money very well spent. $2 million spent to reduce $30 million in costs.”

Utter crap.

http://truebluenz.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/nick-smith-another-statist-initiative-another-bungle/

Provisional (Victorian) road toll data released in the new year shows a significant rise in motorcycle deaths, with 48 riders and one pillion passenger killed throughout the year. Motorcyclists represented 17 per cent of the 2010 road toll, with a 32 per cent increase in deaths from 2009, in which 36 riders were killed.
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January 22, 2011 12:28pm
MyNameIsJack

Utter crap.

Is that the name of your new blog?
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January 22, 2011 12:30pm
reid

Amazing images of birds in flight.
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January 22, 2011 12:32pm
backster

KOWTOW “h for the days of true leadership and justice when a gunboat or frigate would have sailed into the pirates lair and loosed off a broadside to send the bastards to where they belong. And any captured swiftly hanged.”

I agree with your sentiments but I guess I am an old traditionalist…Blindfold and made to walk the plank seems much more appropriate.

MANOLO…Judge Adeane………a shining light.

RED………..Yep another advisory group…..more snouts at the trough.
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January 22, 2011 12:43pm
philu

a hilarious thing about reds’ blog….is that he has a quote from george orwell on his masthead….

ideologically speaking…that’d be like me having a coulter-quote on my masthead…

..hilarious…

…he couldn’t find a rightie-quote…

..so he uses one from someone the ideological opposite of him..

..and what makes it even more hilarious….

..is that his ideological-piracy/naivete is unconscious…

..(why didn’t he quote marx…?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 12:46pm
kowtow

maybe ,just maybe it’s because kiwiblog readers have woken up to the fact that anything written by mynameisjerkoff is bullfuckenshit.

What a complete bore,very repetitous and utterly predictable prattler this fellow is!
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January 22, 2011 12:47pm
Thrash Cardiom

Provisional (Victorian) road toll data released in the new year shows a significant rise in motorcycle deaths, with 48 riders and one pillion passenger killed throughout the year. Motorcyclists represented 17 per cent of the 2010 road toll, with a 32 per cent increase in deaths from 2009, in which 36 riders were killed.

A significant rise, yes. Trend, no.
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January 22, 2011 12:48pm
Fletch

anything said from a religious viewpoint is a)biased, B) bullfucking shit

MNIJ, you mean like all our laws which are based on Judeo-Christian principles? 😉

(Apologies everyone for feeding the troll)
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January 22, 2011 12:53pm
starboard

…gee , I wonder what colour the offenders were. Times like this you want to gave a shotgun at your side , pull it out and blow their fuckin smart arse heads off.

A family’s holiday became a nightmare when a group of violent youths laid siege to their rental bach, demanding money and threatening to kill them.
The incident happened late at night in Papamoa after the family spent a leisurely day in the beach town, where they stayed two streets from the sea.
The Auckland family, originally from South Africa, said it was worse than anything they had experienced in the country they left out of concern for its rising crime rate.
Still shaken from their ordeal, they asked the Herald not to name them as they feared more trouble.
Nine members of the extended family – six children aged 13 to 19 and three adults – were relaxing at the bach they had rented for a week when there was a knock at the door about 10.30pm.
The children had been to a nearby dairy, where they were heckled by three young men who followed them home.
The father opened the door to face a menacing young man with a drink bottle in his hand and two younger boys, about 15 and 12, with hands behind their backs as if they carried weapons.
I just saw a big fellow in front of me, and then the other two. I knew this was serious. I thought, ‘How do we get out of this one?”‘ he said
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January 22, 2011 12:55pm
philu

and as for fletch…and his part in the attempted rightwing colonisation of martin luther king..

…have a reality-check..eh..?

http://whoar.co.nz/2011/10-awesome-things-martin-luther-king-said-that-you-wont-hear-this-weekend/

“…Right-wingers, after attacking, mocking and marginalizing Martin Luther King Jr. during his lifetime – and then assassinating him –

– have posthumously adopted him as one of their own.

It seems like most conservatives have memorized a single statement MLK made in his long and celebrated history of compelling oratory: –

-”Judge a person not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their heart,” …

… which they interpret as a call to abolish affirmative action programs –

– or to stop calling out people who make racist comments – or something like that…”

don’t you people have any thinkers of yr own..?

..oh..!..that’s right..!..

..you don’t…eh…?..)

coulter is what counts as a thinker for you..eh..?

no wonder you steal

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 12:56pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

I’m surprised the IRD is attempting to put a Samoan Methodist Church into liquidation. Silly IRD.

The church will likely own no assets other than a few pews, a sound system and a bit of communion silver. Land and buildings will likely (I need to check that out) be owned by a trust for the beneficial use of the church and will be untouchable.

That leaves IRD looking to sue the individual members of the parish. Apart from the fact that such action will be a really good look in racially sensitive NZ, I wish them luck figuring our who to sue. It is likely there will be no reliable membership records and any financial accounts will be difficult to comprehend and will not record many of the transacti0ons which are cash – both inwards and outwards. When the taxman turns up to attend morning worship he’ll find most of those attending are ‘visitors’ from afar.

This episode will provide great sport for some enterprising journalist.

Not for nothing are Samoans known as the Irishmen of the Pacific. You can bet they won’t have paid a penny in years to support their church’s national office and overheads either.

IRD would have been much better advised to quietly approach the national administration and get them to sort it out.

I predict that five years from now, IRD will still be trying to figure out when no means ‘maybe’ and yes means ‘not yet’ and absolutely means ‘until we change our minds.’

It will be a saga and then some!
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January 22, 2011 1:02pm
reid

don’t you people have any thinkers of yr own..?

Hayeck and Freidman are quite good.
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January 22, 2011 1:03pm
Monique Watson

@bereal. Yeah, I’m waiting for a pseudo by the name of Haterbaiter to combat posts of the following ilk: ‘your opinion sucks, you suck and thats because you’re: a lefty, gay, an elitist, a woman, too yellow, too brown, too smart, have too many kids, etc, and the world would be a better place without you and your ilk’. ‘. Apoplexy meter high.

But you know, there is room for mature debate. It’s one of the pillars of democracy.” IE

“I disagree entirely with what you say, but I’ll defend to my death your right to say it.”

Yup yup.
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January 22, 2011 1:04pm
joana

My son did several years of the Cambridge Programme at a school in Asia. It is much more demanding than NCEA especially in the areas of maths and science. The maths and science my son was managing at about ten yrs old in Asia was supposed to be challenging when he was about 15/16 in a NZ state secondary school..In the years in the NZ sec. he just kept losing his Asian work ethic. There were few challenges. Early on , I asked an English teacher for the reading list..there wasn’t one. In Singaporean schools the children are expected to read three books a week from day one and either write a review or give an oral one on each of them. My son hated NZ English..I once questioned a teacher on where she was getting the photocopied work sheets from. She went semi hysterical and didn’t tell me. They were full of grammatical errors.
NZers will often say that the Asians kids are brighter , Chinese are good at maths..some truth maybe but NZ kids aren’t given a fair go because the expectations of them are so low. In my estimation , maths and science courses are generally about four or five years behind. The children don’t get a good enough grounding in maths to get into certain professions later on. Aussie has the same problem There will be and probably is now a world wide shortage of engineers just when infrastructure is due to be replaced.
If we had had the choice in returning to NZ , we would definitely have sent our son to a school offering the Cambridge exams. Singaporean and Korean maths programmes are far more difficult than the Cambridge ones and all children are made to do hours of maths.
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January 22, 2011 1:06pm
philu

and i think it was yesterday….

..that pete george had another hilarious mis-interpretation …

… of something said by george bernard shaw…

..and in his mis-interpretation….he called shaws’ words/ideas ‘simplistic’…

…cheers for that…

..it’s always nice to start the day with a real knee-slapper…

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 1:09pm
Fletch

philu, you need an injection of history. Southern Democrats historically were the ones opposed to getting rid of slavery and fought to keep it. An excerpt from Rules For Radical Conservatives (where the author plays the Devil’s Advocate) in “how to jettison your racist past in one easy lesson”

We don’t call the Democratic Party the party of Slavery, Segregation, Secularism, and Sedition for nothing—it’s a title we’ve proudly earned practically since the day the party was founded as (what else?) the Anti-Federalist party, skulking under the name Democratic-Republicans, like that was going to fool anybody. Yes, you read that right: although the history is a little complicated, we modern Democrats basically are the descendants of the men who opposed the party of George Washington (the Ronald Reagan of his day) and, especially, John Adams (the George H. W. Bush of his day), not to mention John Quincy Adams (the George W. Bush of his day).

Being a party with its strongest roots in the Old South, Democrats back then were fervently in favor of slavery, and opposed all efforts to modify or end it. I don’t want to bore you with the involved and complex history that resulted in the three-fifths compromise in the Constitution (in which black slaves were counted as three-fifths of a human being for apportionment purposes, lest the slaveholding South wield political power all out of proportion to its eligible voters), the Missouri Compromise of 1820 (which regulated the admission of new slave states into the Union along geographical lines), and the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, which repealed the Missouri Compromise and opened up slavery for a vote in new territories (which sent Bloody Kansas into paroxysms of violence). No wonder we’re always advocating compromise! It was in response to the violence that the modern Republican Party was founded that same year in Ripon, Wisconsin, making it its mission to oppose the slavery-loving Democratic Party at each and every turn. Six years later, they elected the first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, whom we still have to pretend to like. So when South Carolina fired upon Fort Sumter to start the Civil War, it was in effect a war declared by Democrats on Republicans, and from that moment on the strife has not lessened, and black people have been caught in the middle ever since. You didn’t hear much “tolerance” noise out of us in those days.

In the meantime, we fought a rearguard action against civil rights. We formed the Ku Klux Klan, to suppress Republican voter turnout and fight not only against civil rights for blacks, but, later, against Jews and Catholics as well. We had cheered the Dred Scott decision in 1857, when Chief Justice Roger Taney—a Democrat, appointed by a Democrat, Andrew Jackson—described black people as “an inferior order and altogether unfit to associate with the white race” and ruled that, being private property, they had no civil rights. When Plessy v. Ferguson came along in 1896, we cheered again when the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of “separate but equal,” endorsing the Louisiana court’s ruling.

African-Americans found few friends among the Democrats of the Solid South, where Democratic politicians such as George Wallace, the governor of Alabama; Lester Maddox, the governor of Georgia; and Orval Faubus, the governor of Arkansas, led the charge against them. In 1954, in the wake of the historic Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision that overturned Plessy, Governor Faubus deployed the Arkansas National Guard to prevent the integration of Little Rock Central High School, only to be outgunned by his Commander in Chief, the Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower. As a Democrat, Lyndon Johnson fought for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but the Republicans supported it in much higher percentages than the Democrats. And who, you ask, led the filibuster against it? Why, none other than Albert Arnold Gore, Sr., a close friend and confidant of Armand Hammer, one of the Soviet Union’s best and most effective agents against the U.S. during his long lifetime. And Senator “Sleepin’ ” Sam Ervin, later elevated to hero status by the Left for his pursuit of Richard Nixon during Watergate. And the late Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan himself, the longest-serving senator in American history, the king of West Virginia pork, Robert “White Niggers” Byrd. What a swell crowd, and really something for all us progressives to be proud of!

And then, something magical happened. We made all y’all forget our racist past by the simple expedient of not only erasing it, but tossing all previous accomplishments of our newly adopted Victim Groups down the memory hole too. Gone was the Democrats’ irremediably racist past—hey! Sorry about that!—and in its place came the Party of Compassion, looking at its colored brothers in all their pathetic inability to do anything at all without a bunch of us guilty white liberals assisting them, and then helpfully improving their lives as we brought the formidable powers of our Ivy League training to bear on the Negro Problem

We are nothing if not all or nothing; full-throttle is how we roll in Progressiveland. Where once we hunted black people down, strung them up on trees, returned them with all the power of the state to their slave masters, and kept them riding in the back of the bus, we now showered them with our tender mercies. It began during the selfsame civil rights movements that Robert Byrd, Sleepin’ Sam, and Albert Arnold Gore, Sr., had tried to stop, when Northern liberal Democrats headed below the Mason-Dixon Line to confront their Southern brethren. Suddenly, the personal was not only political, it was regional, and FDR’s coalition began to break apart as Bull Connor battled Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman for the soul of Yawnapatawpha County, or wherever.

Then came our best trick of all: some disaffected Southern Democrats began to switch parties. It began when Strom Thurmond, the governor of South Carolina (that pesky state again) ran for President in 1948 on the Dixiecrat ticket, garnered more than a million votes, won several states, and collected thirty-nine electoral votes; later, elected as a senator on the Democratic ticket, he switched parties and became a lifelong Republican, as did such other stalwarts as Trent Lott … and Ben Nighthorse Campbell, and …

I dunno exactly, there must have been millions of them, but even if it was only a few, not counting crazy Arlen Specter, it meant that we were now able to write off the whole Southern wing of the party—you know, the one that had been in existence since, oh, Thomas Jefferson, and therefore claim that the Southern Democrats had really been premature Republicans! And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you jettison your entire racist past in one easy lesson. It’s so easy an amoral, sociopathic child could do it!
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January 22, 2011 1:20pm
reid

I bet this War on Terror board game is a big seller in the East.
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January 22, 2011 1:32pm
nasska

I doubt that anything Nick Smith conjures up will alter the motorcycle death toll & not just because the Hon Minister is a congenital idiot. Some motorists enjoy driving their cars but for most of us it is just a means of travel which elevates ones adrenalin level to heights normally only achieved by watching & listening to paint dry.

Riding a motorcycle is fun. No one, including the riders, imagines it to be a safe means of travel & there is the draw card. The older riders, who are over represented in accident statistics, are reliving their youth often with vastly more powerful machines. Young drivers will always push their luck whether they are riding a 1000cc bike or a scooter.

There isn’t an answer because the vast majority of riders look upon the activity as the last frontier, where Helen Clarke & her safety nazis don’t count. Cancel out all possibility of death & life is barely worth living.
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January 22, 2011 1:37pm
Inventory2

Phil U said

..it’s always nice to start the day with a real knee-slapper…

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

“Start the day” at 1.09pm? I guess that Phil hasn’t got a job yet …

..eh..?
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January 22, 2011 1:48pm
BeaB

I don’t think she is saying NCEA isn’t internationally competitive; just that Cambridge is in the countries where it is used, mainly because they don’t have an exam sytem of their own which is why it was originally developed and why it is so associated with the third world.
I have never said Cambridge is bad just that it is unnecessary when, as a developed country, we have had excellent high school assessments of our own for many decades.
Perhaps John Morris as a Pom felt more comfortable with an English exam system but most of us (and the vast majority of our high schools) prefer our own national system.
But if you too prefer something from dear old Mother England, then get on your high school board and try to persuade the school to offer Cambridge as well as NCEA. A number of schools offer it as an extra.
But my advice remains: don’t get too hung up on what will most probably be your children’s LEAST important qualifications.

And there’s no point Anne Tolley pissing off Epsom and Parnell parents when there’s no reason to. I am just waiting for PPTA to go into a hysterical spin and Kate Gainsford to use her hubby at National Radio to secure her even more airtime.
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January 22, 2011 2:21pm
starboard

philu, you need an injection of history…

..I can think of a better injection for the phool-whoar…
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January 22, 2011 2:25pm
MyNameIsJack

Fletch (1,796) Says:

January 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
anything said from a religious viewpoint is a)biased, B) bullfucking shit

MNIJ, you mean like all our laws which are based on Judeo-Christian principles?

Which ones would they be, Fletch?

The law permitting “gay marriage” (civil union)?

The law permitting abortion?

The law that forbids religious discrimination?

The law about driving on the left?

How about the law that says a priest who buggers a child should go to jail?

There are a vast number of sources of law, and many pre-date your mosaic law.
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January 22, 2011 2:38pm
philu

no..inv…the other day….not today..

..still got those basic comprehension-issues going on then..i see….

..as an exercise..try and work out what these words mean..

..”..and i think it was yesterday….”

get back to me if you still have any questions..

..and so..reid…

…why do you think redbaiter wd approvingly-quote…

..a person who wd vomit all over most of his beliefs…?

..ideological-confusion…?

…or something deeper/darker…?

..funny tho’..eh..?

…the silly old bugger….

..it wd seem ..that ideologically…he barely knows which way is up…

..(should i dig out some lenin-quotes for him…?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 3:07pm
bereal

What does it say when you notice that, with regard to the NCEA vs Cambridge discussion that
the left are vehemently opposed to offerring Cambridge as an alternative where as conservative
types seem to have a more open mind ?
Those against having a choice seem to be prepared to use any argument, legitimate or plain lies and
dogma to support their cause.
Also, note all the denigration of the opposing point of view is thrown by NCEA advocates with closed minds.
Minister Tolley seems to come in for particular abuse. Forget the discussion, abuse the person.
Why is that ?
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January 22, 2011 3:17pm
philu

yes fletch..much like (‘most) everyone now supports the chronic-abuse/killing/eating of aniimals…

…most then supported slavery…(and esp. the political/economic-elites…)

..your point…?

…and how exactly does this support/defend your attempted colonisation of martin luther king…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 3:19pm
MyNameIsJack

HEY

I FOUND Redbaiter, he’s DOES have a job, he even has stuff to sell on the interweb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyGmcVMoAE&feature=player_embedded
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January 22, 2011 3:23pm
philu

btw..inv…

your claim of serious sleep-in by me couldn’t be further from the truth…

..i posted the first of todays’ stories/links at http://whoar.co.nz/‘

..at 9 minutes past five….that is 5.09 am…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 3:25pm
bereal

phillu………….
nice…………..eh ……………..work………….
eh…………
..” ,. very………..
……erudite…………
………….points…………….
…..an effing………… genius……..
………. what …..
effing ………… school…………… eh ?
eh ?…………
…..did ,,,,,,,,,,,,, you ?

go ,,,,,,,,,,, to……..
eh ??/
…. you …………….. must …………eh ?
…have ,,,,,…………….. eh /
…………been ………….a …………..eh?
…………top…………..eh ? ………..
…graduate ………..eh ? student …….. eh?
……you ……………. make ………eh?…………… your………..
……….eh ? teecha ……….eh……….. proud …………eh?
…would ……..eh ? ……love ………..eh
.to have …..eh ?………….seen………….eh?
…..eh………..your………..eh…………?
notes………? from…….
your………..eh?………varsity………..
……………lectures………….EH?
.eh……….whoar……..?

English comprehension your major subject EH ?
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January 22, 2011 3:33pm
Luc Hansen

A simple research project for those interested in the Cambridge vs NCEA debate is to look at the few countries above NZ in the OECD/PIRLS surveys and determine which, if any, of these countries use Cambridge to any meaningful extent.
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January 22, 2011 3:37pm
MyNameIsJack

Luc, you mean evidence based research? Nah, that won’t work for these twonks, they’re all connected at the hip and jerk their knees together.
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January 22, 2011 3:40pm
philu

“..English comprehension your major subject EH ?..”

i started doing english at the beginning of my batchelors degree..

…but majored in politics in my masters…

..(and yrslf…?…)

..and funny you shd mention school…’cos writing essays was all i got ‘a’ in…’cos i enjoyed it…eh..?

..writing those essays…

…(and yrslf..?…)

..and when the iq was measured it was north of 140….eh…?

..(and yrslf…?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 3:46pm
bereal

No philu…….
……………eh ?
…..it………..was…….eh…………?
..engish………….eh.?
…..ex……….p………….r……..e.s…………s….i…..o…………….n…………..?….EH ?

…………..eh ? ………….not…………..eh?
…………c…….o………m…….p…r…..h…e…….n ..EH?…………t………….EH? ………..i………….
……….o………eh?………n…………whoar ………….eh?
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January 22, 2011 3:46pm
philu

so..no answers to the ‘and yrslf’ questions…?

..nothing to offer there….eh..?

..carry on…!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 3:56pm
bereal

IQ north of 140 ?
>>>>>>what,…………..a………f….u….c////////////k…………i………..n//////g……..Eh ?…………
…………b….u……..l……….l.s..hitt………….er………….. eh?
…..a…..n…..y……eh? ………….body……………with………..a………eh? I……Q……..
of ……………eh? 80plus………….eh …….would …………laugh………….eh…….?
…themselves stupid over that statement………eh?…………
……..what was the title of one of your best essays ? ………………..eh ?
………….just…………..eh ? to…………..eh?……..give everyone……..a good laugh…………EH?
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January 22, 2011 3:58pm
Luc Hansen

Phil

There’s no “t” in “Bachelor”.
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January 22, 2011 3:58pm
Redbaiter

“i started doing english at the beginning of my batchelors degree..”

Hhahahahahahaha.. that’s a damn keeper. Half educated fool.
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January 22, 2011 4:05pm
bereal

Philu…………..
…………I…………….Q ………….north of 140
………….ho……………..effing………………….ho……………..
…there ……..has …………to EH? be a ……….Eh?………….problem ………….Eh?……….
……..in …………..the SMALL EGO>>>> eh?………………department………….eh ?………
…..for……..someone to make a self revealing declaration like that……
……….eh…?
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January 22, 2011 4:07pm
bereal

i take this opportunity to appologise to every other corresponent on this site.
But i hope you agree that this tosspot philu deserves all he is getting.
Wait for the withering response from the 140 plus IQ
i cant stand the suspence.
,……………….eh?……………..
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January 22, 2011 4:11pm
philu

yes …i’ve got one of those too…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 4:11pm
philu

“..Half educated fool…”

(ahem…!..george orwell..?

..what the fuck were you thinking there red…..?…

..eh..?)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 4:14pm
Luc Hansen

Press release from the WMO:

Geneva, 20 January 2011 (WMO) – The year 2010 ranked as the warmest year on record, together with 2005 and 1998, according to the World Meteorological Organization. Data received by the WMO show no statistically significant difference between global temperatures in 2010, 2005 and 1998.

In 2010, global average temperature was 0.53°C (0.95°F) above the 1961-90 mean. This value is 0.01°C (0.02°F) above the nominal temperature in 2005, and 0.02°C (0.05°F) above 1998. The difference between the three years is less than the margin of uncertainty (± 0.09°C or ± 0.16°F) in comparing the data.

These statistics are based on data sets maintained by the UK Meteorological Office Hadley Centre/Climatic Research Unit (HadCRU), the U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), and the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

Arctic sea-ice cover in December 2010 was the lowest on record, with an average monthly extent of 12 million square kilometres, 1.35 million square kilometres below the 1979-2000 average for December. This follows the third-lowest minimum ice extent recorded in September.

“The 2010 data confirm the Earth’s significant long-term warming trend,” said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud. “The ten warmest years on record have all occurred since 1998.”

Over the ten years from 2001 to 2010, global temperatures have averaged 0.46°C (0.83°F) above the 1961-1990 average, and are the highest ever recorded for a 10-year period since the beginning of instrumental climate records. Recent warming has been especially strong in Africa, parts of Asia, and parts of the Arctic, with many subregions registering temperatures 1.2 to 1.4°C (2.2 to 2.5°F) above the long-term average.

2010 was an exceptionally warm year over much of Africa and southern and western Asia, and in Greenland and Arctic Canada, with many parts of these regions having their hottest years on record.

Over land few parts of the world were significantly cooler than average in 2010, the most notable being parts of northern Europe and central and eastern Australia.

December 2010 was exceptionally warm in eastern Canada and Greenland. It was abnormally cold through large parts of northern and western Europe, with monthly mean temperatures as much as 10°C below normal at some locations in Norway and Sweden. Many places in Scandinavia had their coldest December on record. December in Central England was the coldest since 1890. Heavy snowfalls severely disrupted transport in many parts of Europe. It was also colder than average in large parts of the Russian Federation and in the eastern United States, where snow also severely disrupted transport.

Recent significant weather and climate events

The year 2010 was characterized by a high number of extreme weather events, including the heatwave in Russia and the devastating monsoonal floods in Pakistan. These were described in WMO’s provisional statement on the status of the global climate issued December 2010 (http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_904_en.html)

There have been many major weather and climate events in late 2010 and early 2011. These include:

* In early January floods affected more than 800 000 people in Sri Lanka according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. The Philippines were also severely affected by floods and mudslides during January.

* Flash floods in the mountain areas near the city of Rio de Janeiro in Brazil in the second week of January resulted in more than 700 deaths, many of them in mudslides. This is one of the highest death tolls due to a single natural disaster in Brazilian history.

* Severe flooding occurred in eastern Australia in December and the first half of January, associated with the continuing strong La Niña event. The most extensive damage was in the city of Brisbane, which had its second-highest flood of the last 100 years after that of January 1974. In financial terms it is expected to be the most costly natural disaster in Australia’s history. Previous strong La Niña events have also been associated with severe and widespread flooding in eastern Australia, notably in 1974 and 1955.

Notes to Editors:

Background to data used in this statement

The information for 2010 is based on climate data from networks of land-based weather and climate stations, ships and buoys, as well as satellites. The data are continuously collected and disseminated by the National Meteorological and Hydrological Services (NMHSs) of the 189 Members of WMO and several collaborating research institutions. The data continuously feed three main depository global climate data and analysis centres, which develop and maintain homogeneous global climate datasets based on peer-reviewed methodologies. The WMO global temperature analysis is thus principally based on three complementary datasets. One is the combined dataset maintained by both the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, United Kingdom. Another dataset is maintained by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) under the United States Department of Commerce, and the third one is from the Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) operated by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

The updated data complements the Provisional Statement on the Status of the Global Climate 2010 published by WMO on 3 Dec. 2010 (http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_904_en.html).

The final Statement will be published in March 2011.

I heard an interview with a WMO spokesman who said there was no longer any room for doubt that the planet is warming.

I chortled to myself and thought, “There’s a man who has never watched American Beauty!”
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January 22, 2011 4:15pm
philu

and if you like orwell…there red…

..you’d just love john pilger….

..eh..?

wd you like some links…?

http://whoar.co.nz/?s=john+pilger

there ya go…!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 4:18pm
DJP6-25

Manolo 9:06 am Yeah, I read about this in the Korea Herald online. The ROKs aren’t wimps. The KH is a good paper. The Korean reporters just stick to the facts, and leave you to make up ylour own mind. Their email is at the bottom of the article. You only get the MSM version from foriegn guest commentators, or articles. Reason # 957 not to read Stuff, or the Herald. I get my NZ news from here.

cheers

David Prosser
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January 22, 2011 4:19pm
Manolo

The followers of the vile “religion of peace” are so peaceful themselves:

The brother of the Muslim actress Afshan Azad, who played Padma Patil in the “Harry Potter” films, was sentenced to six months in prison Thursday for beating his sister after he heard her talking to her Hindu boyfriend.

Ashraf Azad, 28, called his sister a “prostitute” and screamed ”Marry a Muslim or you die!” during a three-hour beating, during which, the actress said in a Manchester, England court, she feared for her life.

Afshan Azad, 21, was punched, strangled, and dragged by her hair by her brother, but she still pleaded for the judge’s leniency during the sentencing hearing, and asked he not be jailed.

http://www.foxnews.com//entertainment/2011/01/21/harry-potter-actress-afshan-azads-brother-sentenced-honor-beating/?test=faces
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January 22, 2011 4:23pm
bereal

Even appologise to you Luc for interrupting your point on global warming/climate change.

However, when was the last time a poster on this site declared their university degrees, so called

and then stated they had an IQ north of 140 ?
why would you do that ? eh?

do you need to be a psycologist to realise that betrays a VERY small ego and a massive inferiority complex.

…………what….a………..sick puppy…eh?

Yah yah ye yah yah, my IQ is higher than yours.
My teecha said my essays were very good.

What a pittifull joke this loon philu is
He must even embarrass himself.
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January 22, 2011 4:30pm
philu

um..!..as i recall the subjects were raised by you…?

(do you have short-term memory issues..?..or something…?

..i thought i was the pot-smoker around here/these parts..)

(hint:…read yr earlier invective-stream…eh..?..)

..and yrslf..?…

..formally uneducated…eh..?

…got everything/all you know from the streets…?

..and i have actually been accused of having a too-large ego..

..your charge makes a refreshing change/counter-argument…

..eh…?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 4:42pm
DJP6-25

joana 1:06pm. That’s right. Probably 75% of Korean kids go from school to a math/English ‘hagwon’ [private school]. Depending on the students; they’ll do a period of math, and two of English. One with a Korean teacher, and the next with a foreign teacher, like me. Then there might be a piano, violin, or Taekwondo lesson. Then homewoork. There is also school until 12:00 on Saturday. Their education system is in the top five.

cheers

Davifd Prosser
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January 22, 2011 4:49pm
Redbaiter

“English” is a proper noun too Phil that should always be spelled with a capital “E”. You’d know that if you’d had a real education and not the stand in Progressive easy ride version.

Makes very plain that all that happened to you at university was that your head, empty when you got there, was stuffed full of leftist crap, and since then, everybody has had to bear the burden of that transformation by means of your boring disconnected illogical half educated dumbarsed rants on Kiwiblog.
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January 22, 2011 4:52pm
Manolo

Where is Superman Len Brown when you need him?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/4563927/Dignitaries-caught-in-Auckland-traffic-chaos
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January 22, 2011 4:52pm
bereal

Jeez, is that it ?
Thats what an IQ north of 140 comes up with ?
If you have a brain. how come you are unable to write coherently ?
How come you are unable to present an argument ?

You now know that you are just a sick joke who will never be taken seriously again,
that must churn your guts, right ?

you forgot to address the MASSIVE inferiority complex.
Where did that come from dear ?

your mother always called you useless ?
picked on at school,
i could keep guessing but you know, dont you dear ?
Where was it

it has corrupted your whole being.
You can get help though.
Just reach out .
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January 22, 2011 4:52pm
Manolo

You are too generous, RB. The poor Whoar never got past third form (after four attempts at it).
It was at that time he discovered the art of “cooking”.
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January 22, 2011 4:55pm
DJP6-25

bereal 3:17 Because that is standard operating proceedure for Socialists.

cheers

David Prosser
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January 22, 2011 4:57pm
bereal

philu,
bereal can help you,
all you need to do is be honest my dear,
put your problems on the table,
we all want to help you.
you dont need to live your life like this.
it CAN be better.
Trust me.
……………eh?………………….eh?
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January 22, 2011 5:00pm
philu

no red..i was political quite young…

..standing alongside pym at anti-american demos..and the like…

..and i wd lay claim to one of the very first animal-actions in this country…

..i liberated a puppy from a couriers van….the puppy was going to be vivisected…

…as it was …she lived to 14 yrs of age….and was a very cool/special dog…

..and red…speaking of ‘disconnected illogical half educated dumbarsed rants’…

…what’s with the george orwell quote on yr blog-masthead…?

…just in case you don’t know it…

..orwell wouldn’t have pissed on you if you were on fire..eh..?

..and yr political beliefs wd have made his skin crawl…

..so..i ask again…why the fuck do you quote him on yr blog-masthead..?

…and do you realise just how dimwitted such ideological-confusion makes you seem…?

..you are displaying a deep/serious political-ideology-disconnect there…red…

..try and find one of yr own..eh..?…beck..or someone….eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 5:05pm
Nomestradamus

Bereal:

I very much doubt that Philu has a 140+ IQ.

Some history may clarify things for you. Last year Philu claimed:

philu (8542) Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

for the last four and a half years..every day.(early morning start…i have compiled a news aggregator service…whoar.co.nz
..(that yesterday..was ranked in the top 1% of global blogs..by technorati…
..and i have been approached by some americans putting together a big commercial model news/opinion site in america..
..aimed at knocking off huffington post..
..i will own part of that…and hope/expect to make a reasonable..to shit-load of money from that…
and i am about to start cashing in on the high global rankigs for whoar…
..(so i expect to be off that dpb sooner..rather than later..
..now..to my mind..through sweat equity/brainpower..i have got myself in a strong position to leave the benefit..

The subsequent history (in summary):

– Other Kiwiblog readers pointed out that Philu had misinterpreted the Technorati data (which only requires a basic understanding of statistics) and, when correctly interpreted, the Technorati data actually showed that Philu’s blog was in the bottom 1% of global blogs.

– The “big commercial model news/opinion site” that was going to knock off the Huffington Post doesn’t seem to have got off the ground.

– Philu is, presumably, still on the benefit so his “sweat equity/brainpower” doesn’t appear to have got him anywhere.

My advice: just scroll past whenever you see a bunch of incomprehensible dots that invariably form part of one of his comments.
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January 22, 2011 5:06pm
Sonny Blount

Keith Olbermann has been dumped by MSNBC. No reason given yet but I hope it is related to his outburst about the Tuscon shootings.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677//vp/41201922#41201922
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January 22, 2011 5:11pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

Another comments thread completely phucked.
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January 22, 2011 5:16pm
bereal

Thanks Nomesdradamus,
Of course poor old philu doesnt have a high IQ.
That is self evident to us all.
But i would truly like to help the poor dear.
Maybe the Kiwiblog family can help this poor soul.
i suspect he is near to breaking point, once that happens he can be helped.
he has to hit rock bottom before he can recover.

It will be very hard, but as Elvis said,
“As long as a man has the strength to dream,
he can redeem his soul, and fly”
Even philu……………..eh?…………..eh?…………..
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January 22, 2011 5:21pm
philu

do a news exercise…nosty…

..on any day…

..go and look at nz herald…see what they have to offer…

..then go to stuff…see what they have to offer…

..and then to to http://whoar.co.nz/ ..and see what is on offer there….

..(thirty + links to stories etc that any political ideology will find something of interest…

..be it in (non-political) movie/music/cultural-reviews…or w.h.y…

..one of the main priorities i have when looking…is the quality of the writing/analysis/review/w.h.y……

and i have got a wicked comics selection….five years worth of cherry-picking…mmmm…!..’comics..!’.

http://whoar.co.nz/category/comics/

anyway…i have full confidence in the quality of the product/service i deliver each and every day….

..what else matters…?

..eh…?..nosty..?

what will follow/happen will follow/happen in its’ own time…

(and…thanks for asking…eh..?..)

..oh..!..and i have weaned myself off the …. at whoar..

..and am in a deep infatuation with the power of the simple- hyphen…

(see what i mean..?..)

..i have great confidence in the hyphen as an effective weapon in my war/campaign against the effete comma….

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 22, 2011 5:23pm
Luc Hansen

Their education system is in the top five.

David, do you have a link to that survey? Or more specifics? For example, is this Maths only?

I’m afraid that the prescription favoured by you and joana sounds absolutely horrendous to me. It’s like the equivalent of Sharia in education. Saudi Arabia has a very low, almost non-existent, crime rate, but would you like their system over here?

Since policy by anecdote is popular here, this is my two-cents worth. Quite a few years ago, to prepare myself for a university course, I did the New Start course at Auckland University. The first term was Maths. In the first test, the one Asian lady in the class came top by a wide margin, and there were the usual mutterings by Kiwis about Asians and Maths. I knuckled down and ended up equal top with her at the end of that term. We both scored 100% for every test and for the final exam. The next two terms were Accounting and Economics. I remained at the top of those classes, finishing top student overall, while she struggled with both.

Generally, our education system performs well in surveys, and we produce well-balanced individuals. We continue to work on improving, but back to the future stunts like Grammar/Cambridge and National Standards is unhelpful.

The fact is that Morris is pandering to the prejudices of the privileged and creating a school where the teachers merely have to teach to the test. That’s lazy teaching, which is why so many teachers love it, but it is a great disservice to the education of the kids. Grammar values sporting achievement over education in the broader sense.
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January 22, 2011 5:28pm
Fletch

Luc, actually it’s long been understood that 1934 has been the hottest year on record in modern times.
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January 22, 2011 5:31pm
Johnboy

I’ll take back every derogatory word I have ever said about the Blackcaps.

Either Wrighty and Alan Donald are bloody miracle workers or Hansie has returned from the dead and made the Paki’s an offer they just couldn’t refuse. 🙂
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January 22, 2011 5:33pm
philu

how’s it going there adolf..!

you old fascist you…!

..eh..?

..gone vegan yet…?

..yr namesake was..(oh..!..hang on..no he wasn’t…!..that was just goebbels-propaganda..

..an exercise to portrait the fuhrer as an aesthete…but all bullshit really..

…and you never did tell us why you..a professed ‘christian’…chose the name of that evil-fuck as yr blog-moniker…

..eh..?

..which exactly of his beliefs gives you the hard-on…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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