General Debate 23 December 2010

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Don the Kiwi

Another day, another .10c.
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December 23, 2010 8:11am
Murray

I see Princess Christine just can’t get his bloody fingers out of our pockets.

Naturally we’re all homophobes for getting pissed off thats he just wont stop rorting. He should seek professional help… cept we;d get the fucking bill.
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December 23, 2010 8:18am
Komata

And to think that ‘him and his’ will get 90% discount off air fares for ‘as long as he lives’ So we’re STILL going to be paying for him and his queer inclinations. . .
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December 23, 2010 8:25am
TripeWryter

I thought the Dompost had a very good editorial yesterday about how US diplomats need to get out more. It was common to see the late Josiah Beeman, when he was US ambassador here, walking around Lower Hutt, either alone or with his wife, simply just chatting to people. I was in a checkout queue in a supermarket one day when he started up a conversation with the person next to him — it was simply about the weather. But he was connecting to ‘ordinary’ Kiwis.

You would see Beeman sometimes watching rugby and cricket matches at the Hutt Rec, which was across the road from the ambassadorial residence.

Perhaps there is a cable that would prove me wrong, but it seemed to me that in his six years here he gained a very good understanding of the Kiwi psyche.
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December 23, 2010 8:27am
lastmanstanding

I see the leader of the gutter MSM Bill Ralston’s client May Wang has had her application to buy Crafars farms turned down.

She was described as not of fit character Same could said for Ralston.

As the saying goes You are known by the company you keep.
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December 23, 2010 8:29am
Komata

And now to something completely different:

Conformation that Klark was/is anti-Israel (the ‘Mossad’ hysteria):

Wikileaks: New Zealand forsook Israel for lamb exports
A State Dept. cable posted on the wikileaks website and published by the
Guardian (UK) says that US diplomats believed New Zealand made a big fuss
over the arrest of two suspected Mossad agents in 2004 in an effort to
impress Arab countries so that they would increase their imports of New
Zealand livestock, particularly sheep. The two arrested Israelis, Eli Kara,
50, and Uri Zusha Kelman, 30, attempted to buy fake passports and were
arrested. The New Zealand press immediately published speculation that the
two were Mossad agents and the government demanded an apology from Israel,
which would have included an implicit admission of guilt. Israel refused
and diplomatic relations were downgraded for a year. US diplomats quoted in
the cables believed New Zealand was grandstanding.

Blood for Milk, ‘Mossad’ for lamb.

Should we be be surprised ?
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December 23, 2010 8:30am
voice of reason

Komata “And to think that ‘him and his’ will get 90% discount off air fares for ‘as long as he lives’ ”

Actually I think its 75% – even that is bad enough.
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December 23, 2010 8:33am
slightlyrighty

DPF.

I’d like to thank you for your work this year. Particularly in providing an open, largely unmoderated forum that allows opposing views.

Contrast this with Red Alert, where you can be “Moderated” for simply disagreeing with Trevor Mallard or Claire Currans view of the world.

Take yesterday when Don posted

“Don says:
December 22, 2010 at 5:14 pm

This really doesn’t change the fact that Helen Kelly is a rat who, whether it was going to leave our shores or not, was more than happy to let that happen for the sake of scoring political points.

A) If you didn’t want to be poor, you shouldn’t have become an actor. B) Unionising things generally makes everything more complicated as you’re dealing with petty left wing nonsense at every turn (one of the main reasons I am not in a union). C) Being part of a union is collectivist, undermining the stellar individual, and make the whole less than the sum of its parts. I’d rather discuss my contract with my boss individually, based on my work, the achievements that I’ve made, rather than being forced into a collective debate and throwing my toys out of the cot (striking) when I don’t get my way.

Helen Kelly is probably still the mos hated person in the country, which i hilarious, it was great to see the NZ public finally standing up to mindless zombified union bullies.”

Nothing wrong there, but Trev chimes in later with

“Trevor Mallard says:
December 22, 2010 at 7:23 pm

I’ve just caught up with this thread Would have moderated Don’s offensive comments but now they have been replied to will leave. Just for the record this shows Helen Kelly’s word is worth much much more than John Key’s.”

If labour continue to ignore those who don’t agree with them, then get used to opposition.
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December 23, 2010 8:36am
Gooner

Komata, it’s all lies. Helen Clark said so.

Believing her is like believing Santa Claus will come down your chimney on Friday night.
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December 23, 2010 8:37am
TripeWryter

Well, Carter has a right to feel aggrieved because he hadn’t done anything wrong. He was within the rules as they then applied.

This is what our media have never understood over these perks — they were within the rules, and the MPs were entitled to take advantage of them.

If you don’t like the perk, then change the rules.

Last week the Dompost had a beat-up headline about ex PMs and spouses, governors-general using various travel perks.

Under arrangements and rules of the time they are entitled to them. And it’s no good harrassing the users of these services and perks because they are not doing anything wrong. The rules allow it.

If you don’t like the rules that allow them, then change the rules.

Carter might well have a case when he says his trip was singled out and others ignored. If that is the case then he has been treated unfairly.
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December 23, 2010 8:38am
Manolo

I cannot stand the sight of this parasite anymore. I wish he would disappear for ever!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/4487842/MP-Chris-Carter-cancels-holiday
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December 23, 2010 8:40am
Manolo

Will the judge throw the book at this criminal? http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4487774/Bashed-cop-accuseds-long-nights-in-prison/

Maybe colonialism is to blame? Or is it his mother didn’t breast feed him?

Meanwhile, look at the different approach to prison sentencing: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/22/man-killed-angel-pitcher-gets-years-life-870604683/
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December 23, 2010 8:43am
Murray

If Santa come down my chimney I’m gonna make the bastard wipe it up.
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December 23, 2010 8:55am
Lance

Your a sick man Murray
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December 23, 2010 8:56am
Falafulu Fisi

Beautiful Irish women quartet: O Holy Night. O Holy Night is one of my favorite Christmas song.
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December 23, 2010 8:59am
big bruv

Have a listen to this, it says all you need to know about the typical knuckle dragging Labour voter.

http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Sally-one-of-the-funniest-talkback-calls-youll-ever-hear/tabid/506/articleID/17971/Default.aspx

It is also bloody hilarious.
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December 23, 2010 9:08am
Murray

And?
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December 23, 2010 9:13am
Murray

BB shes not really the sharpest tool in the shed is she.
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December 23, 2010 9:14am
shady

So I wonder what relation this 18 yo Japhet Simiona ..
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10696086

is to this 18yo Rawhiti Simiona in 2004.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=1291393
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December 23, 2010 9:28am
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

Police consider plan for Pike River re-entry
“The Pike River Coal body-recovery operation remains under police control while authorities consider mine re-entry plans from the company’s receivers.
Police Commissioner Howard Broad yesterday received from the company draft plans for access to the crippled coalmine.
Pike River Coal receiver John Fisk said the draft plan was prepared by a panel of technical experts, including company staff and New Zealand and Australian mines rescue personnel.
He said that while the plan was being considered by Broad and the Department of Labour, work to stabilise the mine would continue under police control.”

Why is this matter still being handled by the police – and what part of all this is police funded?
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December 23, 2010 9:36am
kaya

Probably the greatest analysis of the current situation in the USA that you will see for a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

George Carlin, brilliant!
Time for work, keep it clean people.
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December 23, 2010 9:40am
AlphaKiwi

@ kaya That was brilliant. George Carlin was pretty clued up.
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December 23, 2010 10:10am
tom hunter

And on a slightly different note – different in that this article is about the sort of people that Carlin probably has in mind with his spiel – here’s a piece on what happens when tax rates go up.

Oregon demonstrates the Laffer Curve

The state expected 38,000 Oregonians to pay the higher tax, but only 28,000 did. Funny how that always happens.

I’m not unaware of the idea that voting can be a fairly useless exercise as one chooses between tweedledum and tweedledee – but Carlin chooses to jump down the traditional far-left/far-right rabbit hole where shadowy elites are the puppet masters.

He’s not big on practical money matters either, as shown by his rant about how “they’re coming to steal your Social Security”. FFS – it’s a Ponzi Scheme George, it was set up by exactly the sort of vote-buying, pig-ignorant politicians you despise, and like all such schemes it’s living on borrowed time (and borrowed money effectively).
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December 23, 2010 10:31am
mike tan

Professor Milton Friedman debating with socialists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ds_LRROLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwBUO45cIyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tba37WPR4Io&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJNxg3ZhXf8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcyQn9c0ujU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOGfzEeI8xg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M1vCVF0QKs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCuWrxPg3o&feature=related

We desperatley need people like Professor Friedman, may he rest in peace.
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December 23, 2010 10:31am
AlphaKiwi

This song is not not very PC and was made during WW2 after Pearl Harbor, but I still found myself laughing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suuN6bkYiug&feature=player_embedded
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December 23, 2010 10:56am
jaba

thanks BigBruv .. funny as a fart .. had to post on my facebook.
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December 23, 2010 11:02am
Brian Smaller

Tripewriter

I thought the Dompost had a very good editorial yesterday about how US diplomats need to get out more. It was common to see the late Josiah Beeman, when he was US ambassador here, walking around Lower Hutt,

Ambassador Bill McCormick was the same. I knew him as his son was at school with my boy. NZ made such an impression on them his son was enrolled in a school with a strong rugby program when they went back to the States.
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December 23, 2010 11:03am
lofty

@BB…Sally is Spud for sure. Same blind sycophancy.
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December 23, 2010 11:04am
Brian Smaller

BigBruv

One of my favourites of that era
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iumEGAUceDg&feature=related
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December 23, 2010 11:10am
Brian Smaller

And also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euy6-07BeB0&feature=related
My old man was an 8th Army D-Day Dodger (A Co, 22 Bn, 2NZ Div)
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December 23, 2010 11:22am
Manolo

Yes, Brian, Bill McCormick is an amiable guy with a fine taste in single malt: Glenmorangie Nectar D’or is one of his fauvorites. I can vouch for that. 🙂
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December 23, 2010 11:27am
Yvette

Agencies ‘failed’ abused 9-year-old
” … Education Minister Anne Tolley yesterday praised the nine-year-old’s teacher in West Auckland, who said she had tried to report her concerns of abuse on an almost weekly basis to school management.
The school board’s chairwoman said the school followed the right procedures in dealing with government agencies.
A next-door neighbour of the couple said she rang Housing NZ and told three different case managers of her concerns for the couple’s children. “I knew there was something wrong.”
A Housing NZ spokesman was unable to comment for reasons of privacy”
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December 23, 2010 11:31am
Right of way is Way of Right

I see various spokes-drones from government agencies are commenting on the case of the 9 year old girl in west Auckland.

A common theme emerging is that “systems” failed this child.

I do not buy that for a moment. It had nothing to do with ‘Systems’. It was individuals working within those systems that failed this child. As soon as you start to point the blame at ‘systems’, you begin the process of absolving the individuals, and that must NOT be allowed to happen any more. Individual responsibility is as important, if not more so, than collective responsibility.
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December 23, 2010 11:35am
Murray

The term bit Nancy Astor in the ass Brian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE5Cgvc3JqU&feature=related – sanitised version.

Giles did an excellent cartoon of several soldiers in a jeep with their numerous D-Days written on the side with one guy reading a newspaper asking which D-Day she was refering to.

All my great uncles were 2nd Div. One in the Divisional Cavalry, he tended to have little turns every now and then and get the need to go lie in a quiet place for a bit. Apprently The Med tour wasn’t as much of a doge as Ms Astor would have it.

Lefties, haven’t changed since Marx first had his brain fart.
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December 23, 2010 11:46am
Brian Smaller

Murray – Div Cav and their Staghounds. Great beasts they were.
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December 23, 2010 11:58am
Falafulu Fisi

How many leftists here whom English is their first language and they also speak another language? If not then why not? I just wondered.

Here is a view from an outsider (non English speaker as a first language). I learnt (& still learning) English because it is the international language. Why did it become the international language? Simply because of the intellect, military & economic power of the English speaking world (former super-power Britain and now the US which is heading towards a former super-power status). In the next 100 years or so, perhaps Chinese or Indian will be the dominant language because there is no doubt that their economics & military power will rise.

If Pete George, et al, will be resurrected in that 100 years time from now, he will not like to learn to speak Chinese. But the decline of the West is directly attributed to leftist hating the might of the West (economics, military), with their anti-capitalist & anti-freedom policies/ideologies. One just has to look at the rise of the US from 200 years ago. The law book (& constitution) was just a thin book. Today, it is massive, which if one can stack them up (one of top of another); there is no doubt that it will reach the top of Sky tower.

Yep leftist folks, just enjoy speaking English for the mean time (if you don’t speak another language), because your grandchildren will endure having to learn the super-power language of their time in the next 100 years or so. But us, outsiders, we will always (i.e., no choice) want to learn the international language of the day (its English today). Who knows what it might be in the next 100 years or so. It is certain that it’s not going to be English.
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December 23, 2010 12:02pm
Murray

Turns out they don’t stop 88’s Brian.
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December 23, 2010 12:10pm
Viking2

Hey DPF. You have left Coast of the List. Got the bestcomedy stuff around every day on comedy cuts. If yopu see people driving to and from work laughing their heads of that’s why. this mornings one was classic.
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December 23, 2010 12:18pm
Pete George

But the decline of the West is directly attributed to leftist hating the might of the West

That sounds like you have plucked it out of your imagination. Maybe you have something substantial to back it up with.

It is certain that it’s not going to be English.

It seems certain that is a wild guess. Language will be different, but the dominant language internationally has as good a chance of being English derived as anything.

If Pete George, et al, will be resurrected in that 100 years time from now, he will not like to learn to speak Chinese.

By all means express your own opinions, but don’t try to attribute mine, you have no idea what languages I know now or would like to learn in the future.

What really is the point of your post? Speculation with a clumsy attempt to criticise “the left”? How many lefties in China speak Chinese do you think?
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December 23, 2010 12:19pm
Falafulu Fisi

Pete George, why is Western governments are accumulating so much debt today? A 9 year old kid knows? Less government (rightwing) or big government (leftwing)? I’ll leave that to you to ponder. Mr George, I asked if you speak any other languages, and if you do, then tell us. Do I read your mind? I don’t know what languages you speak.
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December 23, 2010 12:23pm
Murray

Not really looking for leftists talking about imagination, their entire ideology defies reality and empierical evidence.
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December 23, 2010 12:26pm
mike tan

“That sounds like you have plucked it out of your imagination. Maybe you have something substantial to back it up with”

It’s pretty obvious he is referring to leftist political / economical idealogy

“It seems certain that is a wild guess. Language will be different, but the dominant language internationally has as good a chance of being English derived as anything”

It is indeed a wild guess (if you fail to comprehend his rationale)

“By all means express your own opinions, but don’t try to attribute mine, you have no idea what languages I know now or would like to learn in the future.

What really is the point of your post? Speculation with a clumsy attempt to criticise “the left”? How many lefties in China speak Chinese do you think?”

How about you post something of substance (for once) ?
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December 23, 2010 12:26pm
mike tan

I strongly recommend everyone view those links i posted above, its basically a bunch of pete george’s trying to plead their case to one of the greatest economic minds in history.

Professor Friedman gets constantly disrespected by these men yet he manages to “keep his cool” and let his intellect speak for itself.

When all else fails, the socialists deliver a HC style cheapshot that is dealt with firmly, to summarise:

Socialist: “Professor, i would really like to see your interview but i can’t afford to go see it” “How is this freedom?”

Socialist 2: “In Iceland we have a tradition of free lectures”

Professor Friedman: “Nothing is free, the people that paid for those lectures are the ones who didn’t go to it”
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December 23, 2010 12:30pm
Brian Smaller

Murray – not much did.
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December 23, 2010 12:32pm
mike tan

Excuse my error, substitute “Interview” with “Lecture”
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December 23, 2010 12:34pm
Pete George

Mike, you say your links are “basically a bunch of pete george’s trying to plead their case”, but you imply I have never posted anything of substance – therefore I’m curious to hear how you think you know what sort of a case I would plead.

If FF (and you) imply I’m a big government leftie west hater he doesn’t have any idea of my government versus business views, so he must have missed or ignored what I have often posted on it. FF prides himself on his research abilities, he has jumped to false conclusions here.
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December 23, 2010 12:45pm
mike tan

“Mike, you say your links are “basically a bunch of pete george’s trying to plead their case”, but you imply I have never posted anything of substance – therefore I’m curious to hear how you think you know what sort of a case I would plead.

If FF (and you) imply I’m a big government leftie west hater he doesn’t have any idea of my government versus business views, so he must have missed or ignored what I have often posted on it. FF prides himself on his research abilities, he has jumped to false conclusions here.”

1) Read what i wrote again and this time try to write a more coherent response

2) Do you really think FF has the time to conduct extensive research on your posts? One need not look further than the latest propoganda coming out of the left to summarise your position
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December 23, 2010 12:51pm
Sonny Blount

Pete, mike compared you with the people in the discussion.

You have said that does that imply that you have nothing of substance to say and are a big government leftie west hater. Therefore you are implying that that is what the other people in the discussion are, I would suggest you watch the discussion and you will find the people involved aren’t quite like that (one of them is the now President of Iceland I believe).
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December 23, 2010 12:52pm
Julian

Well, it is my last day today.
So, to all Kiwibloggers and friends

All the best for the festive season.
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December 23, 2010 1:03pm
Redbaiter

Socialist 2: “In Iceland we have a tradition of free lectures”. Professor Friedman: “Nothing is free, the people that paid for those lectures are the ones who didn’t go to it”

Damn right. Private companies that advertise “free” gifts with associated purchases, where the price of the main purchase in inflated to recover the cost of the “gift”, are breaking the law and often prosecuted.

So should politicians who claim this government service or that government service is “free” be prosecuted under the same law. No government service is ever free. The correct term is payed for by the taxpayer. I’d like to see a mandatory three months jail for every politician every time they used this term. Lying scum.
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December 23, 2010 1:04pm
TripeWryter

Murray:

The Divisional Cavalry provided the core of the Long Range Patrol, which became the Long Range Desert Group. Were any of your great-uncles in the LRDG? One of mine was there, and he came from the Div Cav.

Brian Smaller:

Am I correct … did I read a post of yours a week or so back that you now live in Ngaturi, in the backblocks out the back of Pahiatua, on the road to Pongaroa? Haven’t been there since the 60s.

About Bill McCormick — yes, I understand he got out and about, although I never saw him. I happened to be in a lift in a Wellington highrise one afternoon and he was chatting with a New Zealand policeman, and saying how his security people got nervous when he went out on his own. He said he felt completely safe here, and that he enjoyed the anonymity he found here.
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December 23, 2010 1:06pm
Redbaiter

“1) Read what i wrote again and this time try to write a more coherent response”

Forget that. People have been asking it for ages. His comprehension skills are a big fat zero. Why he’s a leftist I suppose. Completely brain damaged.
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December 23, 2010 1:06pm
Pete George

Mike, FF has criticised me and others a number of times for not substantiating comments, shouldn’t he apply the same standards to himself? I don’t expect him to “conduct extensive research” on my posts, but I also don’t expect him to make shit up based on nothing.

One need not look further than the latest propaganda coming out of the left to summarise your position

What specific “latest propaganda coming out of the left” summarises which of my positions? How do you know any of my positions if you have seen nothing of substance from me?
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December 23, 2010 1:14pm
mike tan

I’m going to take RB’s advice and stop expecting you to be capable of holding a worthwhile discussion.

Your tactics are definetly from HCs school of thought, all you do is take otherwise meaningful discussion down irrelevant sideplots in an attempt to evade addressing the issue. This does nothing but display your incompetence.

Good day.
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December 23, 2010 1:20pm
bchapman

0.2% quarterly GDP decline- decline accross all sectors. With another drought tipped to affect dairy exports there is a good chance NZ will be one of the first countries to go into the double dip. Might be time to think about a better economic plan- preferably one that involves a lower dollar.
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December 23, 2010 1:34pm
Pete George

Funny Mike, RB’s advice, yeah, explains a bit. Try having a worthwhile discussion with him then.

Redbait Farm: Right legs good, left legs bad.
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December 23, 2010 2:05pm
Manolo

The gravy train is picking up speed under Labour-lite: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10696000

Will this settlement be final final final? Will the racists ever be satisfied? Will their greed ever end?
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December 23, 2010 2:48pm
Manolo

The Crown and Ngati Porou today signed a Treaty of Waitangi settlement giving the East Coast iwi financial redress of $110 million and the return of approximately 5898 hectares of land.

“The settlement of such a major claim will put longstanding historical grievances to rest and bring significant benefits both to Ngati Porou and to the East Coast region,” Mr Finlayson said.

Where do this vast sum of money go? Who is responsible for its administration and, more importantly, who benefits from it?

Is the taxpayer expected to see a reduction in benefits, crime, and all negative statitics that come from that part of the country as as result of this deal? Of course not. A few fat cats whitin Maoridon will get fatter, while the majority will see the crumbs and get nothing at all.

It’s a shame the Labour-lite government continues with this farce. The Treaty must be abolished for the benefit of all New Zealanders.
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December 23, 2010 3:00pm
big bruv

Speaking of the gravy train….

Our MP’s are about to find out how much of a pay rise they are going to receive, as usual this is timed to coincide with Xmas.

The bastards will have their pay rise backdated to the start of the financial year.
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December 23, 2010 3:04pm
Rodders

Break out the bubbly. Here are the details…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10696249
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December 23, 2010 4:31pm
Pete George

If you thought you could relax and enjoy Christmas, forget it.

Christmas Day danger lurking

An Accident Compensation Corporation analysis finds that Christmas is a dangerous time, with around 3,000 injuries occurring each year on Christmas Day alone.

The ACC has analysed Christmas accidents over the past five years and found around 400 accidents were related to Christmas tree mishaps. Another 100 accidents relate to Christmas tree lights, mostly to do with tripping over them or falling while putting them up.

Lifting or unwrapping presents is also a hidden danger, with 170 injuries recorded. Forty-one percent occurred lifting, carrying or picking up presents, 24 percent happened while wrapping presents and 20 percent happened while presents were being unwrapped.

Twenty percent of accidents are related to ham, turkey or chicken with burns and cuts in the kitchen common, often after a few drinks. People dropping frozen turkeys on their feet also feature.

Be on your toes (but not with frozen turkey).
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December 23, 2010 4:42pm
big bruv

Bastards… utter bastards

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4490590/MPs-get-pay-rise
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December 23, 2010 5:07pm
RightNow

not quite that bad BB, a $3800 pay rise to offset losing their estimated $10k worth of travel perk.
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December 23, 2010 5:13pm
reid

Bastards… utter bastards

I wonder if Chris got it?

Does anyone have an opinion on the abolition of ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell?’
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December 23, 2010 5:43pm
Falafulu Fisi

Pete George, you can definitely sit & enjoy christmas with some Island brass band christmas music. If you’re musical, just listen to the Euphonium brass instrument in that piece of music. Its all over the place (about 30 seconds into it). Beautiful.
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December 23, 2010 5:55pm
reid

Hey just heard on Radio Left Wing that a Wikileaks says the US panicked over plans by Liarbore for BooBoo (Hobbs) to host a showing of Fahrenheit 911, made high-level phone calls, got it cancelled.

I assume most have seen the movie.

Yes this diplomatic action isn’t surprising to me as in, I’m not shocked they did this at all.

However, why did they bother, when according to them, the “conspiracy theory” is so valueless, unbelievable and innocuous as to be not even worth addressing, at least in public?
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December 23, 2010 6:12pm
RobbieBlack

There can be justice in the world after all:

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8558371/apology-to-jamie-shorter/

Merry Xmas!
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December 23, 2010 6:21pm
nickb

Have a listen to this, it says all you need to know about the typical knuckle dragging Labour voter.

http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Sally-one-of-the-funniest-talkback-calls-youll-ever-hear/tabid/506/articleID/17971/Default.aspx

It is also bloody hilarious.

Funniest fucking thing all year!

I can picture this woman with a large beard for some reason. And an IQ to match her age.
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December 23, 2010 6:24pm
nickb

Anyone surprised to see the ethnicities of the following people?

http://www.3news.co.nz/Details-of-horrific-abuse-revealed/tabid/423/articleID/192263/Default.aspx
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December 23, 2010 6:32pm
Rodders

“Funniest fucking thing all year!”

The real gem has to be where Sally condemns Michael Laws for wearing eye liner, as if that was the most offensive thing he had ever done.
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December 23, 2010 6:38pm
lofty

You heard it here 1st (again)….Sally is Spud! same sycophantic stupidity factor..must be!
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December 23, 2010 8:24pm
Hurf Durf

Pete “Moderate Centre Left” Delirium crying that the socialist utopia the dumbass left want is all just a big illusion of the VRWC. LOL. Don’t you have legs to wax tonight?
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December 23, 2010 8:33pm
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nickb

I been trying to listen to Sally for two days. Vid just doesn’t load.

Radio live has a lot of problems in these areas.
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December 23, 2010 8:50pm
Rodders

What a rip-off !

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/22/join-labour-for-a-penny
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