General Debate 9 November 2010

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big bruv

There is no god!

There…that should set the tone for the day 🙂
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November 9, 2010 8:04am
arkhad

In the beginning man made God in his own image and likeness, and unto that primal masterpiece has man addressed ever since his childlike invocations
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November 9, 2010 8:10am
James Stephenson

There is no god!

There is an Eric Clapton though.
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November 9, 2010 8:10am
Brian Smaller

There is no god!

Not what your wife told me the other day 🙂
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November 9, 2010 8:11am
Brian Smaller

OK – why is it that you take your first full week off work since January and then get a stinking cold?
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November 9, 2010 8:12am
Grant Michael McKenna

Wond’ring aloud
how we feel today.
Last night sipped the sunset
my hands in her hair.
We are our own saviours
as we start both our hearts beating life
into each other.

Wond’ring aloud
will the years treat us well.
As she floats in the kitchen,
I’m tasting the smell
of toast as the butter runs.
Then she comes, spilling crumbs on the bed
and I shake my head.
And it’s only the giving
that makes you what you are.

Wond’ring Aloud
Ian Anderson, 1971.
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November 9, 2010 8:14am
stephen

I see someone(s?) with an interesting sense of humour has booked put both the Black Caps and the Indian squad on the same charter flight to Hyderabad.
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November 9, 2010 8:14am
Chuck Bird

I watched with disgust the illegal occupation of Council land in Northland. All treaty negotiations including those relating to the foreshore and seabed should be put on hold until the Maori Party agree to the rule of law. Any MP who does not has not place in Parliament.

When is National going to enforce the law? A woman was assaulted and the police refused to law charges.
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November 9, 2010 8:17am
James Stephenson

As the commentators were pointing out yesterday stephen, there are plenty of IPL team mate replationships across national line these days. Probably they only good thing that 20/20 has brough IMO.
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November 9, 2010 8:20am
stephen

Yeah James I didn’t mean there was going to be any animosity or anything, but potentially a risky move. Now I think the worst thing will be Harbhajan pissing everyone off dancing around in the aisles singing “I gots me a century!”.
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November 9, 2010 8:29am
James Stephenson

I suppose it is a lot of eggs in a big tubular metal basket for the Pakistani intelligence services to have a crack at…
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November 9, 2010 8:31am
kaya

James Stephenson – Clapton is but a good disciple, Hendrix is the true messiah, and I should know I’ve followed a few!! 🙂
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November 9, 2010 8:36am
kaya

Post mid term US elections, more thought that it isn’t all Obama’s fault. The real culprit is the Fed.

http://dailybail.com/home/video-the-fed-celebrates-a-century-of-domination.html
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November 9, 2010 8:43am
Rodders

Further to Chuck Bird’s comment, the Minster of Police should be ringing the Commissioner to enquire as to why they are being so timid in dealing with these thugs.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/alleged-assault-reported-taipa-protest-3883885
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November 9, 2010 8:43am
mickysavage

Thank god for the Cullen Fund. Without it the Government’s books would be looking even worse …
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November 9, 2010 8:46am
James Stephenson

Kaya – I’m more a follower of the “Reverend” Billy G myself (highly rated by Hendrix after a support slot for the Experience), and I’ve seen Hendrix’s former roadie play more times than I can remember (Trivia time – name that muso)

Quite a lot of people rate EC though – hence the famous “Clapton is God” graffiti.
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November 9, 2010 8:50am
Brian Smaller

Who here likes Amon Amarth?
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November 9, 2010 8:52am
tristanb

Question about Judge Roy Wade:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10686263

Someone famous admits sexually molesting a young child, stating he thought it was his partner.
But the case gets postponed because of lack of DNA evidence!?

Surely the fact the incident happened is not in contention! And there are plenty of times that DNA cannot be recovered after sexual assault – it doesn’t mean the trial shouldn’t go ahead!

Has The Entertainer changed his story and done what my lawyer friends always say to do in times of legal trouble: “deny, deny, deny”?

A quick Google of Roy Wade makes him seem like a reasonable (i.e. not too soft on crims) judge. Hopefully he’s making sure the case is watertight before going to trial (although I didn’t think that was the judge’s role). I’d be disheartened if there were some backroom dealings because of this guy’s fame.

If they re-analyse the sample and still find no male DNA, the trial surely must still go ahead.
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November 9, 2010 8:54am
Manolo

While her people is mired in poverty, imprisoned, and languishing at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, Turia, the racist leader, continues her battle against freedom: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10686343

Maoridom will never move forward with leaders of her stature.
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November 9, 2010 9:01am
Inventory2

@ tristanb – it’s not The Entertainer – he was the bloke with a name like the proceeds from a drug sale who pushed his old fella in the face of a young woman in a Wellington alleyway.

What The Comedian ALLEGEDLY did was far, far worse. His PR people actually admitted the offence when it first came to light, but said that The Comedian was drunk, and that it was a case of mistaken identity. Now he seems to be denying that it happened at all. I blogged about the case back in January, and the quote is there for all to see:

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/01/comedian.html
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November 9, 2010 9:01am
Pete George

All the talk of a lame duck POTUS is ridiculous – or sad for democracy. If a major government cannot function properly just because of a particular mix the electorate delivers then there is something badly wrong with the democratic model.
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November 9, 2010 9:04am
the bird is the word

Bold move to take on DPF
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November 9, 2010 9:07am
Brian Smaller

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/4323343/Fast-food-chains-target-kids

The fast food industry can market all they want to my kids, but the food decisions in our household are made by my wife and I, not the kids. Why don’t the food nazis just fuck off and die and leave the rest of us alone?
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November 9, 2010 9:18am
kowtow

chuck bird @817.

Rule of law…….who’s law though,ours or their version of “law”.
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November 9, 2010 9:21am
Manolo

“Why don’t the food nazis just fuck off and die and leave the rest of us alone?”

Brian, how you dare to speak this way? 🙂

The food nazis know better, much better, what’s good for you and your family. They can make choices on your behalf with the certainty that only a zealot possesses.

The same can be said of the alcohol nazis, the anti-tobacco campaigners, the animal-right activists, the eco-nazis, and a miriad of do-gooders that are a blight on the scene.
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November 9, 2010 9:28am
Ryan Sproull

At some point, you really have to think that the word “Nazi” is thrown around a little too cavalierly.
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November 9, 2010 9:48am
Brian Smaller

Manolo – I wish all those others you mentioned would fuck off and die as well. Try and get your head around this:

The shearer told me the other day that some states in the US had passed laws banning the docking of lamb’s tails because it is cruel. So we have bred sheep for 10,000 years to have wool that does not fall off, and the animal rights people want tails left there to collect shit and get fly blown. Sheep get daggy enough as it is. Wankers. I am sure it is coming to a supermarket carpark near you, complete with a freshly washed lamb to show how unnecessary docking is.
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November 9, 2010 9:49am
Ryan Sproull

I’m a use-of-the-word-Nazi-Nazi!
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November 9, 2010 9:49am
Brian Smaller

Ryan – Yes you are. A regular fucking Goebbels.:)
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November 9, 2010 9:53am
tom hunter

If a major government cannot function properly just because of a particular mix the electorate delivers then there is something badly wrong with the democratic model.

Ah – No. That’s a typically Kiwi perspective (because we just love more government). I had the same conversation with my niece in D.C who was jumping up and down about the incompetence of the Federal Government – and she’s a right-winger on many issues.

I made the point to her that the US government was designed deliberately from the ground up to not “work” by making it fight against itself: President vs Congress vs Senate vs. Supreme Court vs. State Governments……..

The idea was to prevent any government from imposing vast, insane schemes – led by small groups of “experts” – upon the population. Since that’s the basic thrust of the left-wing I can understand the frustration they feel at the US.

If you think it’s such a bad system compared to NZ because “government working” is better than “government not working”, I invite you to contemplate the ever-growing amount of rules and regulations – growing perhaps only a small amount per year but adding up thanks to an effect not unlike compound interest – and ask yourself whether you feel you’ll ever be able to stop the well-meaning bureaucrats who nuture those rules and endlessly create new ones because that’s there job.

The US has similar problems, but they at least have an institutional design that gives them a chance at breaking the cycle. Here in NZ – not so much.
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November 9, 2010 10:03am
kowtow

Ryan Spoul:

What have you got against King Charles’ horsemen.? 🙂
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November 9, 2010 10:04am
tom hunter

ick – curse edit freeze: ~~…there job….~~ “…..their job….”
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November 9, 2010 10:08am
adze

*Infomercial voice*

Are you tired of always being the one who invokes Godwins Law?

Call the Hitler quit line on 0800-DU-WERDEST-EINE-KRANKENSCHWESTER-BRAUCHEN!!!
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November 9, 2010 10:14am
Pete George

“government working” is better than “government not working”, I invite you to contemplate the ever-growing amount of rules and regulations

Maybe I should have said “good government working” – which in my view would mean minimising it’s own footprint, and limiting and simplifying rules and regulations.

President vs Congress vs Senate vs. Supreme Court vs. State Governments……..

I understand the US being structured to fight against any part becoming too powerful, but one very powerful component is missing from this – the lobbyists and their big pockets.
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November 9, 2010 10:56am
Fletch

Al Gore’s much-hyped Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) will be dead before the end of the year, and will end carbon trading.

Global warming-inspired cap and trade has been one of the most stridently debated public policy controversies of the past 15 years. But it is dying a quiet death. In a little reported move, the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) announced on Oct. 21 that it will be ending carbon trading — the only purpose for which it was founded — this year.

Although the trading in carbon emissions credits was voluntary, the CCX was intended to be the hub of the mandatory carbon trading established by a cap-and-trade law, like the Waxman-Markey scheme passed by the House in June 2009.

[…]

CCX’s panicked original investors bailed out this spring, unloading the dog and its across-the-pond cousin, the European Climate Exchange (ECX), for $600 million to the New York Stock Exchange-traded Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) — an electronic futures and derivatives platform based in Atlanta and London. (Luckier than the CCX, the ECX continues to exist thanks to the mandatory carbon caps of the Kyoto Protocol.)

The ECX may soon follow the CCX into oblivion, however — the Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012. No new international treaty is anywhere in sight.

And yet the MSM says nothing.

I wonder why? Is it that they are all leftist and don’t like to think they have failed, or is it just that they don’t like to admit they were wrong for swallowing the global warming line, hook and sinker?

And why does NZ still have it’s ETS, if not to tax the poor NZ taxpayer?
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November 9, 2010 11:38am
Manolo

“And why does NZ still have it’s ETS, if not to tax the poor NZ taxpayer?”

You answered the question already. Regardless of how Key’s Labour-lite government tries to disguise it, the ETS is a new tax paid for no other reason than to fatten the state coffers.

So much for the mythical National Party, the party of lower taxes, supporter of private enterprise, and personal responsibility. Unabashed liars is what they are.
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November 9, 2010 11:53am
Repton

You answered the question already. Regardless of how Key’s Labour-lite government tries to disguise it, the ETS is a new tax paid for no other reason than to fatten the state coffers.

Isn’t it more like a tax to pay for our obligations under the Kyoto protocol?

Labour wanted a carbon tax initialli, I believe, and the Greens have always preferred that option, but National torpedoed it. So now we’re stuck with this.

I suppose the other option is regulation — set emission standards and enforce them. But the government felt that a market-based system was better ideologically.
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November 9, 2010 12:14pm
virtualmark

Fletch, I have no particularly strong feelings about climate change. But I would point out that if an informed buyer was prepared to pay US$600m for the CCX and ECX that suggests they must have some high-quality revenues and earnings – which seems inconsistent with your point that those exchanges have utterly failed.
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November 9, 2010 1:19pm
MikeNZ

thanks big bruv for at least interjecting the God word once today.
I hope you’re having a great one wherever you are. In wellington it i absolutely shit for office workers that is.
haha a peach of a day.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/apocalypse_denial_now_a_week_o.html

just loved this one.
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November 9, 2010 1:24pm
DJP6-25

[Fletch 11:38] Thats very good news.

cheers

David Prosser
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November 9, 2010 2:31pm
Pauleastbay

BACKLINE star Joel Monaghan has fallen on his own sword over his lewd photograph scandal, quitting……….

The most unfortunate headline of 2010 so far.
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November 9, 2010 5:12pm
Jimbob

Brian Smaller @ 9:49 am. I heard that to. They would never do that in Australia, so NZ should be safe from these morons.
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November 9, 2010 5:31pm
kaya

Got this as an email from pommie land, modified for NZ:

New Telephone Greeting:
Wouldn’t it be amazing, if this caught on,
All over the country…?

‘GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE NZ social services department.”

‘Press ‘1’ if you speak English.’
‘Press ”2” to disconnect until you can’
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November 9, 2010 5:46pm
kaya

Oh go you good scousers, Liverpool 2 – Chelsea 0!!!!! YNWA!!!
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November 9, 2010 7:01pm
wat dabney

I recall reading the published diaries of a Jew who had lived in Dresden for the entirety of the war (married to a gentile so escaped the camps by the skin of his teeth.)

One of the laws introduced by the Nazis was to ban Jews from smoking.
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November 9, 2010 7:33pm
dad4justice

“Hey Peter
Big Bruv
to me

show details 7:03 PM (50 minutes ago)

Miss me yet?

Are you still telling lies D4J”

Hey Farrar can you tell your fucked in the head scum of earth trolls to fuck off from my personal life!!!
What a filthy low big bruv. You are pus,
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November 9, 2010 7:58pm
dad4justice

Fuck this five thousand cash for the name and address of big bruv. Enough is enough.
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November 9, 2010 8:02pm
Hurf Durf

So today I’ve killed a double of Castro, blown up a Soviet spacecraft, mowed down hundreds of human wave NVA forces and am about to penetrate deep into the heart of the Red Empire to take out a terrorist and his biochemical threat. Fuck I love Call of Duty: Black Ops, anti-Communist to the core. Ol’ Puke would probably organise one of his boycotts with his pro-Pal mates if he learned about it.
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November 9, 2010 8:19pm
dad4justice

hey big bruv every reader or commentator on here knows you like shit stirring people who do not want to comment any further on here because of your vile and malicious rhetoric. I wonder what makes a #### like yourself tick.
I told you and Farrar I have finished here days ago = SO FUCK OFF!
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November 9, 2010 8:28pm
Dirty Rat

easy $5000
Brendan Dugan
107 St Stephens Avenue
Auckland
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November 10, 2010 7:30am
Caleb

heh…
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