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October 9, 2010 8:30am by David Farrar

General Debate 9 October 2010

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Don the Kiwi

KrisK.

your 12.22 pm.

Actually, the term as you describe it is “Khyber” , not Kaiser. It is taken from Cockney slang – eg.

Sky rocket = pocket.
Frog ‘n’ toad = road.
Khyber Pass (as between Afghanistan and Pakistan) = arse.

I guess meanings gets corrupted with time.

No wonder us Catholics have to keep putting you fundie Christians right. 😉
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October 9, 2010 2:33pm
joana

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An elderly, Dutch friend of mine who lived under the Nazis..saw people being murdered in the streets outside her home etc…..saw the Obamanation on TV the other day , saying..”You know who I am”…..She said he was EXACTLY like Hitler , so Donald may be in with a chance.
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October 9, 2010 3:41pm
MikeNZ

Just reminder that we have a ways to go in the world. these people have voting rights at the UN.

http://stopstonningnow.com/wpress/4126
Given that:
– Our mother’s lawyer and we have been denied visitation since her first coerced ‘confession’ on Iranian state television on 11 August
– The home and office of her lawyer Houtan Kian has been raided and ransacked by security forces and all documents pertaining to our mother’s case confiscated
– The authorities have been busy establishing new trumped up murder charges against our mother and denying the stoning sentence for adultery, which has yet to be officially rescinded, and
– We have been receiving threats because of our interventions on our mother’s behalf
We ask you to urgently come to our aid by:
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October 9, 2010 4:13pm
reid

“Khyber Pass (as between Afghanistan and Pakistan) = arse.”

Perhaps we should rename Khyber Pass Road in Auckland as Arse Road.

I wonder what the Geographical Board would have to say about that.
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October 9, 2010 4:37pm
MikeNZ

Probably not a lot, providing there wasn’t a Maori name for it.
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October 9, 2010 4:40pm
transmogrifier

Some random stuff:

(a) Go the ‘Naki!
(b) It was funny to see on the news last night that Dikshit’s name was pronounced about five different ways by various people and commentators. Most Indians, however, seemed to go with “Dick-shit”. Funny that.
(c) To my mind, Henry should be being singled out not for making fun of the name, but for his comment afterwards “It’s appropriate because she’s Indian”. It’s like a presenter on TV saying about the name Smallcock “It’s appropriate because he’s Asian” (i.e. inappropriate and a little racist)
(d) Whether he is in fact being singled out for that, who knows?
(e) Viking2 is wrong in saying that Henry didn’t expressly denigrate the GG as not a “real New Zealander”. He did, and he meant it. The fact that he didn’t know that he was born in NZ, as a TV host interviewing politicians for a living, is a sorry indictment of the shallowness of our news.
(f) There is no way in hell the NZ government should be apologizing for all of us for the comments of one guy.
(g) Made the best apple pie this morning.
(h) Len Brown? Good luck Auckland.
(i) I am not a witch.
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October 9, 2010 4:42pm
MikeNZ

tristanb (168) Says:
October 9th, 2010 at 11:51 am

Indian Dignity?
Bollocks.
I’ve got two words for that.
Caste System.

There can be NO Indian Dignity until that is gone.
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October 9, 2010 4:48pm
reid

Yeah does anyone know where the caste system has come from. What is it in Indian history that has given rise to this?
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October 9, 2010 5:13pm
Viking2

As I recall there are 3 castes, each with a different coloured spot on the forehead. The ruling caste. the merchants and the lower caste that did all the shit stuff like cleaning sewers and herding cows and all. They were called the untouchables because they were full of disease from their occupations.
Actually if you ask any owner of a brothel they will tell you that all the Indians are full of disease.

Probably if you Google Indian Caste system you will learn more.
Oh and yes its ancient.
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October 9, 2010 8:10pm
Viking2

Transientmoggy. Go back and replay the video slowly and listen very closely whilst watching. i.e. 2 ears, 2 eyes and mouth shut.
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October 9, 2010 8:13pm
reid

“Probably if you Google Indian Caste system you will learn more.”

So what’s “Google,” Viking?

Seriously, I was fishing for responses from any readers who have a deep understanding of the cultural origins, and that’s not that easy to google, for you tend to get dry historical factual accounts rather than the particular insights I was interested in.

I’m interested in knowing why a highly intelligent sophisticated society like much of India is becoming indeed has now become, persists in this to be frank, primitive interpretation of our fellow travelers.

The mystery to me is and perhaps it’s not a mystery to others, is why with India’s deep philosophies and traditions, does it persist in this cruelty?

If you can suggest a few good keywords however, I’m all ears.
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October 9, 2010 8:21pm
Viking2

Ok so its just not NZ that’s getting dikshit form the Indians.

Ugly, ugly, ugly say India’s media

* Peter Lalor
* From: The Australian
* October 08, 2010 12:00AM

INCREDIBLE India. Ugly Australia. Two subjects have jostled for attention in the local media here for the past couple of days.

The celebration of VVS Laxman’s marvellous match-saving innings on Tuesday is something to behold. It’s Diwali come early (Christmas is the closest translation).

His name was reportedly the biggest trend in tweeting on the planet in the finals stages of the first Test against Australia.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/ugly-ugly-ugly-say-indias-media/story-fn66fst6-1225935680254
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October 9, 2010 9:02pm
Luc Hansen

I notice that i have been in some posters minds again, even while not around – how nice. Thank you guys.

Fala – I don’t think my kids think they had a deprived upbringing. One would probably get along very well with redbaiter, the other is more to my inclinations. One is well ensconced in very successful architect practise in Auckland, the other very successful in IT in Melbourne. From what I have gleaned from your posts, you have done very well for yourself here, and I congratulate you. I think you are in Auckland, so feel free to email me and we can meet up for a coffee.

Perhaps where John Gibson works. Come in John!

Heard today that Obama is vetoing a bill passed by Congress that makes foreclosure easier for the banks. Just as foreclosures are suspended in many states because of lax procedures. How on earth do these people, the mainly the enemies of the vast majority of US citizens, keep getting elected?

Oh, I know, money and a sense of hopelessness. Ah, the Land of the Free.

Will John Banks get the hint and move on? Christchurch will be looking for a new mayor in 2013, as they would have this time if Mother Earth hadn’t handed Bob a gift, so John, do us all a favour – shift.
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October 9, 2010 9:03pm
Viking2

Try Hindu then as its their system.
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October 9, 2010 9:04pm
Viking2

It gets worse and the article is worth a read for the funny side of the Indian spokesmans ranting.

Swimmer Roland Schoeman slammed for ‘monkeys’ crowd comment

* Jon Ralph
* From: News Limited newspapers
* October 09, 2010 6:59PM

South African swimmer Schoeman condemned the antics of spectators at the pool, saying ”people are going on like monkeys”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/schoeman/story-fn66fst6-1225936210819
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October 9, 2010 9:07pm
transmogrifier

Viking 2 said: “The October 1 piece was followed on Monday by Henry saying Governor-General Sir Anand Satyanand – who was born and raised in Auckland – did not “look or sound like a New Zealander”.

Now having watched TVNZ replay this clip on the news again last night it is clear that he (Henry) did not say that at all.
He asked Key “was the GG a NZer. Key replies and then Henry asked would the next GG be a person who looked and sounded like a NZer”

There was no slur against the present GG merely a fair question about his citizenship. A fair question that many would not know the answer to. It also seems that many Kiwi’s couldn’t have named the GG anyway. (about normal for Kiwi’s)

Paul Henry said:
“Is he even a New Zealander?”
“Are you going to choose a New Zealander who looks and sounds like a New Zealander this time?”
“Are we going to go for some one who is more like a New Zealander this time….?”

Viking2: I suggest you take some of your own advice regarding listening with 2 ears and eyes. And probably the mouth shut bit as well. So many things you could defend him on legitamately, and you decide to try and convince people he didn’t actually say what he said. Good work.

How you manage to display so much arrogance on such minimal displays of logic is astounding.
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October 9, 2010 10:28pm
transmogrifier

Is Viking2 not a complete and utter moron?

In fact, I hope the next person I reply to is someone who doesn’t seem like a complete and utter fucking moron.
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October 9, 2010 10:32pm
transmogrifier

Does Viking2 even have a brain?
I hope the next person I reply to has a brain this time.
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October 9, 2010 10:36pm
double d

you just said that?
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