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September 30, 2010 8:00am by David Farrar

General Debate 30 September 2010

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Tauhei Notts

It’s General Debate so I can bring the matter up about;
POSTAL RATES INCREASE.
I am so old that I was a philatelist when postage was 3d a letter. So I have seen numerous price hikes in postage. But I was surprised today. I timed it well; I ran out of 50 cent stamps this afternoon and went to get some 60 cent stamps. Yeah, may I have a 100 box of sixty cents stamps. I was offered a box and the polite saleswoman suggested that I might take two boxes. Why? Because these stamps which cost 50 cents today will cost 60 cents tomorrow and serve the purpose of 60 cent stamps tomorrow.
Two boxes? No, I will have four boxes. They will do for the Christmas cards in 2011.
A very unusual price rise.
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September 30, 2010 9:43pm
starboard

..just watchin programme on tv1 about Thailand…now THATS what I call a real prison…
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September 30, 2010 9:59pm
Jack5

Western economic problems – and NZ’s – boil down to low birthrate, argues an interesting article listed on the excellent web site Arts and Letters Daily

Excesses of feminism, breakdown of marriage, the pill, mass abortion of foetuses… how would you stop this and revert to families and kids?

If this argument is valid and correct, religious fundamentalism will win. The optimists, especially the female ones, better hope its Christian fundamentalism rather than the ruthless, medieval Islamic fundamentalism.

The article:

http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/phillip-longman/demography-and-economic-destiny
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September 30, 2010 10:01pm
Luc Hansen

Turkey secular? One of the biggest elitist myths perpetuated. Another is that Turkey is European!

Turkey has a secular, Muslim government, as opposed to previously when it was essentially a secular army dictatorship. But the “secular” is slowly, inevitably, morphing into Muslim. It’s called democracy, boys and girls, people power. Don’t we all value democracy?

Is Turkey European?

Well, is Israel European?

How does one define European?

Is the US European, even though “Europeans” (ie whites) will soon be outnumbered?

Turkey is a Muslim state. Muslims put religion before government. If New Testament Christians had the same philosophy perhaps, just perhaps, we would all be safer, happier.

And dreams are free.
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September 30, 2010 10:04pm
bhudson

Hahaha. Good ol’ NZ Post.

2.5% increase in GST = 1.25c increase. But hang on. You can’t charge 1.25c. You can’t even charge 5c. The ONLY possible answer is to put the stamp up by 10c to cover the 1c cost increase!

This from a business whose Letters unit has been suffering from revenue decline for years as electronic media take over the old pen & paper, and people stop sending physical mail! Their solution? Put the price up by 20% – 10c to cover 1c!!! Perhaps they have ‘found’ the essence of the problem – but they just don’t see it yet?

Put an economist in charge – good or bad economist, doesn’t matter. Any old economist (or even someone who only passed ECON101) who understands the impact of price on the demand curve. The headline by Christmas is “postal services will be cut to 2 days a week deliveries so that NZ Post can right-size the Postie workforce to match an even sharper decline in postal mail.
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September 30, 2010 10:05pm
Luc Hansen

Excesses of feminism, breakdown of marriage, the pill, mass abortion of foetuses… how would you stop this and revert to families and kids?

Easy peasy.

Convert to Islam.

The Muslims are coming…
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September 30, 2010 10:07pm
Luc Hansen

Just noticed DFF’s poll about removing GST on fresh fruit and veges.

84% AGAINST!!!

WTF!!

I thought this was the low tax site!

I mean, at least it’s a start. Then we could advocate removing ALL GST.

Then ALL TAX

YAY!
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September 30, 2010 10:27pm
bhudson

Luc,

Great news. The “Complete Twat Tax” idea has been dropped – that will save you an absolute fortune
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September 30, 2010 10:31pm
Jack5

Luc posted at 10.07 his answer to falling birthrate: convert to Islam.

If that was everyone’s free and open choice, no problem. But once Islam gains a majority it tends to become undemocratic forced conversion, Luc. Like the initial spread of Islam: convert or die. And there’s no going back. An apostate from Islam is outside the protection of the law.

Luc might well have been right in the pre-atomic era to forecast that the Muslims are coming. Now I think it may all end up in radioactive ashes. Better dead than a Muslim slave – especially if you are the half of the world that is female.

As for Luc’s 10.04 question:

Is the US European, even though “Europeans” (ie whites) will soon be outnumbered?

Depends on how you would racially class Latin Americans. I think many, perhaps most, would class themselves as “white”. So would be many northern Asians, and indeed their skins are often whiter than those of Europeans.

Race is a pretty loose means of classification, Luc. It’s passe, useless — merely inflammatory, IMHO.
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September 30, 2010 10:33pm
kaya

bhudson – re economists. Economics was invented to give clairvoyants credibility.
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September 30, 2010 10:38pm
bhudson

kaya,

Haha. Ok. A clairvoyant then!! Couldn’t be worse than what they’ve got (by the looks)
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September 30, 2010 10:41pm
Luc Hansen

jack

Islam has never been convert or die. That’s just crap. And I don’t think Latinos would call themselves European.

As for your objection to my suggested definition of “European,” can you suggest an alternative and tell us just how and why Turks don’t fit, since that’s the suggestion I was replying to.

bhudson

That was a quick wank!
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September 30, 2010 10:41pm
bhudson

Luc,

You seem to have lost any semblence of a snappy cumback. Perhaps you need to have a little rest.

Or then again, perhaps just be you. As I noted above, its tax free for you!
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September 30, 2010 10:46pm
Luc Hansen

bhudson

Can you actually think for yourself or are you just a serial aggressive?
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September 30, 2010 11:38pm
MikeNZ

Tauhei Notts (745) Says:
September 30th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

yeah strnage that it just happened to be in sync with the gst rise.
My local post shop has been telling all the customers to by extra for the past month.

reckon that the post knew about the gst increase a month ago?
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October 1, 2010 7:59am
joana

Luc” islam has never been convert or die…thats just crap..” Where do you get your information from? It was convert or die for my neighbours in SEA..it was convert or get beheaded , and this has been the case for millions throughout history.
Perhaps you should study history.

On another point about having children..at least our modern day children are mainly well looked after. Many muslim children are neglected , how do think 12/13/14 year olds would cope as mothers..Another thing they like to keep hidden is the fact that their countries are full of overflowing orphanages…in places like Malaysia there is a growing problem with abandoned babies..
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October 1, 2010 9:57am
MikeNZ

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/sheltering-for-the-next-war-15490

Usually Hamas terrorists fire rockets on Sderot during the morning, when there is the maximum concentration of Jewish children going to school. Many Holocaust survivors in the city must take sedatives and tranquilizers. In Sderot there are large stocks of medicines for the shock treatment. It is estimated that more than half the population of Sderot suffer from stress or other psychiatric syndromes. After years of missile fire on the city, groups of children are in “regression”; they do not want to sleep alone, receive low grades at school, and fear leaving home.

I Imagine it must be the same for the Arab kids in Gaza.
Imagine what it would be like if NO rockets or mortars were fired at Israel?
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