General Debate 19 September 2010

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Grant Michael McKenna

Beautiful day. Was a bit windy last night- and Invercargill seems to have been damaged quite a bit. Why was the stadium roof flat if they get heavy snow? Was the snow completely out of the ordinary?
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September 19, 2010 8:10am
Pete George

“THE heaviest snow dumping in a decade” – so not an every year storm but far from beyond what should have been expected. It was a heavy fall by normal Invercargill standards, but NZ snowfalls are minor compared to many overseas so it shouldn’t be difficult building for them.
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September 19, 2010 8:20am
Inventory2

Heh; who’s endorsing one of his rivals?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/09/supporting-eco-terrorism.html

Andrew Williams learns about the reach of social networking!!
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September 19, 2010 8:56am
MyNameIsJack

Speech by Andrew Copson, BHA Chief Executive.

Just a few days before the Pope’s visit began a representative of his organisation called our country ‘a moral wasteland’.

The day before the pope’s visit began one of the Pope’s closest aides said that landing at Heathrow was like landing in a ‘third world country’.

On the first day of his visit the Pope himself condemned our secularism.Last night, in Westminster Hall, speaking to the political elite of our country, the Pope questioned whether secular democracy alone could have any values at all.Britain is not a perfect country.

It’s true that as a matter of national policy we don’t use our status as a nation to lobby at the UN against the human rights of women or the human rights of lesbian and gay people.

It’s true that our state doesn’t use its recognition as a state to lobby against the use of condoms, even in places suffering epidemics of AIDS.

It’s true that our country has never, as a matter of national policy, concealed the sexual abuse of children and frustrated justice for survivors of sexual abuse.But I don’t think this makes us a moral wasteland, and I’d rather be a citizen of Britain than of the Holy See.

You will hear more about all of these actions of the Pope and the Holy See from our other speakers today but I just want to mention what it is that we who are here today support – the values that get us marching.

We support equality.

We support human rights.

We support secular and liberal democracy.

And we support justice, even if that justice is inconvenient for the power and reputation of churches and clergy.

Those are real moral values – values to live by in the twenty first century and the values you are supporting by being here today

http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/655

Time for the World’s Favourite NAZI Pope to search his own soul and dissolve his malicious, malevolent, medieval monstrosity.
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September 19, 2010 8:56am
MikeNZ

I can understand your position and agree with it, as the RC church of Rome has in all things protected it’s self and not looked after the victims of it’s members pedophilia.
The Pope and his whole hierarchy worldwide have no currency to talk or comment in the public square on morals and society until they have handed over every Lay member, Priest, Bishop, Cardinal and Pope who committed these offenses, knew of them and did nothing, covered up same or obfuscated and frustrated the victims and their families search for justice.
Then and only then can they speak again until then they should hang their heads in shame and shut up.

Obviously I can’t agree with the website humanism for only a fool says there is no God.
http://bible.cc/psalms/14-1.htm
and a better explanation on this beautiful way.
http://www.westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com/articles/psalms/psalm_53-54.html
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September 19, 2010 9:14am
Viking2

Another boring religious day on GD.
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September 19, 2010 9:18am
Inventory2

Well said Viking2; it’s Sunday, and even God took a day off once a week 🙂
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September 19, 2010 9:21am
MT_Tinman

I had the great pleasure to meet a young Aucklander last night.

This gentleman was starting a two week holiday when, in far off Christchurch, the earth moved.

He found the notorious face-book page asking for volunteers, signed up, flew to Christchurch and has spent his holidays shoveling sand and rubbish in Kaiapoi.

He has, during this period lived at his own expense at a motel and, when the student bus stopped running the second week, again at his own expense, hired a rental car to travel to and from Kaiapoi.

The gang he worked with consisted of four North Islanders all doing the same.

They worked very hard, collapsed each night into their beds sore and exhausted and got up the next morning to do the same thing all over again.

One of the world’s good guys. As I noted it was a pleasure to make his acquaintance.

Well done that man, those volunteers.

As an aside, I couldn’t help compare him and his attitude to that of the fat Jafa beneficiary convict who spent much of the post earthquake time parked on his fat useless arse whingeing about the cost of the disaster to the NZ taxpayer (as if he was one).
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September 19, 2010 9:24am
tom hunter

Another boring religious day on GD.

Possibly – but I’m sure a polite request will see the MikeNZ, Kris K and others desist.

But not MyNameIsJackOff – he’s here to troll.
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September 19, 2010 9:27am
lilman

Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go the naki boys,was that not pretty,was that not awesome.
SONNY BILL you are my player of the day.

FEEL THE BURN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH YEAH.
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September 19, 2010 9:32am
Viking2

Hunter, you jest of course. They have been asked to fuck off to a voice box plenty of times but it fell on juandiced ears.
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September 19, 2010 9:35am
Rodders

Another Sunday, another Q&A episode, another needlessly aggressive interview by Paul Holmes with someone not in the studio with him. Get a grip, mate.
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September 19, 2010 9:48am
Viking2

First the leaky house debacle and now the breaky floor syndrome.
The enduring feature of the CHCH earthquake is new houses with concrete floors that have split and failed at their first test.

I would like some engineer to explain to us all why it is that these floors have broken like they have. There are thousands of acres of concrete floors that have existed through many big earthquakes that have not gone this way.

Is it to do with the low grade concrete specified in construction, typically 75mpa.
If we can build bridges that carry 4 lanes or more of traffic at high speed and with 55 tonne trucks the hurtle along at 100 kph they how is it that we cannot make a simple strong concrete house floor.

Some guesses. Some greeny smart arse at the BIA (remember them from the days of recommending pine softwood doesn’t need top be treated time),decided that lousy low grade concrete was sufficient for a floor based on some theoretical university education. And so it came to pass that building regs only required crap concrete in floors. No load apparently.
But, walk around any subdivision built in the last 15 years and you will see cracked concrete driveways everywhere. Same deal 75mpa concrete.
Add the fact that the reinforcing mesh is propped up by plastic holders that then form a line of weakness across already substandard concrete grades, run a saw across the concrete which weakens it further and hey presto we have houses that will not withstand an earthquake.

Will Mr Gerrymander look at this with his all empowering constitution removing legislation and white wash it before Maurice the comedian get onto the job.

There are thousands of houses built with poor specification concrete. If you own one, that can happen to you.
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September 19, 2010 9:55am
kowtow

While the world’s media and surrender monkeys went nuts over the Florida pastor,very little has been said about this very real threat. A suspected Chechen making an attack in Denmark on that sad anniversary in September.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/denmark-chechen-muslim-was-planning-to-bomb-newspaper-that-published-motoons.html
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September 19, 2010 10:01am
tom hunter

Fair point Viking2 – in which case you’ll just have to ignore them and get on with what you want to talk about. Blogs make that easy.

On that note, take a look at this brief commentary by a law professor in Chicago – We Are The Super Rich:

I, like the president before me, am a law professor at the University of Chicago Law School, and my wife, like the first lady before her, works at the University of Chicago Hospitals, where she is a doctor who treats children with cancer. Our combined income exceeds the $250,000 threshold for the super rich (but not by that much), and the president plans on raising my taxes. After all, we can afford it, and the world we are now living in has that familiar Marxian tone of those who need take and those who can afford it pay. The problem is, we can’t afford it. Here is why.

I remember hoping that the same conversation was going to happen here in NZ in 1999 when Labour were talking up their income tax increase, raising it to 39% on “rich” people – people earning more than $NZ60,000 per annum. I’d just returned from the US and laughingly shook my head at how easy they found it to play the class warfare line in NZ. I’m sure they’ll pull the same stunt again in a few years.

But the real stupidity of this left-wing approach (and the truly nasty aspect of it) is found with this comment:

The problem with the president’s plan is that the super rich don’t pay taxes – they hide in the Cayman Islands or use fancy investment vehicles to shelter their income.

We aren’t rich enough to afford this – I use Turbo Tax. But we are rich enough to be hurt by the president’s plan. The next time the president comes home to Chicago, he has a standing invitation to come to my house (two blocks from his) and judge for himself whether the Hendersons are as rich as he thinks
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September 19, 2010 10:07am
Don the Kiwi

Viking2.
Small correction – the concrete generally used in floors is 17.5 mpa. If the floor is ribraft, or has been pumped via a concrete pump, the strength is usually 20 mpa min. as the extra cement helps the concrete to flow through the pipes.
But most commercial concrete floors are 35 mpa or better, up to 50 mpa.

The other problem is that floors in certain areas can be laid without mesh or rod reinforcing, except in the footing. That’s where you can see a concrete floor that has separated around 100 – 200 mm. and no sign of broken or twisted reinforcing mesh.

Dead right about the untreated timber – stachybotros fungus loves it, and gives off highly toxic spoors. When it happened (approval of untreated radiata pine) I objected strongly, and never used it in any of my houses, unless the owner insisted on it ( 2 or 3 cases out of around 40 over that period)
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September 19, 2010 10:12am
MyNameIsJack

MikeNZ (2,848) Says:

September 19th, 2010 at 9:14 am

Obviously I can’t agree with the website humanism for only a fool says there is no God.
http://bible.cc/psalms/14-1.htm

So who are the fools. Einstein? Dawkins? Hawking? Clarke? Me? You?

A great many intelligent, brilliant and innovative minds have said “There is no god”.
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September 19, 2010 10:15am
Pete George

But not MyNameIsJackOff – he’s here to troll.

YourNameIstom does what that is different? Or do lefties troll, and righties just post?
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September 19, 2010 10:20am
Viking2

Thanks Don, 17.5 must be right. just got the numbers mixed. Commercial floors rarely fail but look at all those floors in CHCH that have failed.
You can wander around Papamoa and other places and see that driveways all broken. You can see floors in houses when the carpet is pulled back, all broken and just are never going to remain whole in an earthquake.

Asked one of the local engineers (whom you probably know) about this on Friday and quizzed him about my observations. I have been walking into these places for over 15 years now and have pondered on this many times. Had the experience of laying a garage floor on a house I lifted. The ground was open and driven over for 3 years before we poured the concrete, its was shaded and took over a week to dry, carries almost no weight except for benches and stuff yet it has cracked quite badly. As opposed to three driveways poured in the heat with 20 mpa and kept wet for a couple of days and not a single crack despite trucks and all. And note that there is not a single piece of reinforcing in those drive ways, just minimum 100+ mm 20 mpa concrete.

Never will I ever use 17.5 again. Just crap.
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September 19, 2010 10:29am
Pauleastbay

Fuck off Jack,

Its obvious you are from Christchurch you sad sad individual.

I will admit however ,that you yourself are a great reason that condoms should be available free, shame your parents never bothered

[DPF: 10 demerits]
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September 19, 2010 10:31am
MT_Tinman

# MyNameIsJack (1,515) Says:
September 19th, 2010 at 10:15 am

A great many intelligent, brilliant and innovative minds have said “There is no god”.

Each one was wrong.

Man (or most men) needs a god simply to stop them from having to face reality – that they are just another animal.

They have invented gods to fill that need.

Doesn’t make the gods any less real (mine are beauts).
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September 19, 2010 10:32am
Murray

A great many intelligent, brilliant and innovative minds have said “There is a god”.

A great many intelligent, brilliant and innovative minds have said “Fuck off jackboot” as well.
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September 19, 2010 10:39am
MyNameIsJack

Murray (6,012) Says:

September 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am

A great many unintelligent, simple minds have said “Fuck off jackboot”, yours among them.
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September 19, 2010 10:41am
Murray

Turn of your italics genius.
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September 19, 2010 10:43am
MyNameIsJack

Murray (6,013) Says:

September 19th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Turn of your italics genius.

2 f’s in OFF, drongo.
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September 19, 2010 10:50am
MyNameIsJack

Besides, Muzza, I thought you’d join me in a crusade against the World’s favourite NAZI Pope since he joined in the attempt to eliminate Europe’s Jews. Although the Brits, Yanks and Ruskies finished Hitler’s work for him.

[DPF: 20 demerits for trolling. It is well known the Pope was forced to join Hitler Youth as all German children were. I conclude you post this purely to antagonise and disrupt]
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September 19, 2010 10:54am
tom hunter

I’m so glad to see the left supporting the whole church-separated-from-the-state thing.

Aside from their deep concern about the evil of the Pope I wonder what the left has to say about the following video, in which students from Wellesley Public High School in Boston were taken for a “social studies” cultural experience in the Roxbury Mosque.

The Roxbury Mosque is a $15 million, Saudi-funded, Islamic center started by Abdurrahman Alamoudi (now serving a 23-year terrorism sentence) and run by the Muslim American Society (the quasi-official arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States).

I wonder whether the teachers have organised any similar visits to the temples of other faiths and have stood by while the students were actively pulled into prayer sessions. When left-wing atheists and agnostics claim that they’re tough on all religions, events such as the above make me very skeptical. Perhaps the left only support the separation of Christianity and state?
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September 19, 2010 11:11am
Don the Kiwi

What a complete load of bullshit you spout MNIJoff.

Please explain how the Pope is/was a Nazi?
How did he join the attempt to eliminate Europe’s Jews?

You make wild, unsubstantiated and bigotted rants – how about a bit of evidence to back up your claims.

You are a dough -whacker of the first order!
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September 19, 2010 11:11am
joana

”History” students from Riccarton High were taken to the local mosques 3/4 years ago…it caused a big furore when on one of the students fathers went to the Sunday News re the girls having to wear head scarves..The mosque called in the rabid , American convert to speak on their behalf..He was rude and extremely arrogant. No surprises that at that time when he was having free reign here he was then barred from entering Australia. The Labour govt let many of these terrorist supporters come here and even run youth camps..
School visits are dawa opportunities nothing more.
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September 19, 2010 11:20am
grumpyoldhori

Don the Kiwi The question is why are raft slabs allowed without reinforcing ?
It’s been a while since I was involved in concrete etc but unless some thing has changed unreinforced concrete has fuck all strength against shear loads.
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September 19, 2010 11:46am
Kris K

tom hunter 11:11 am,

I’m so glad to see the left supporting the whole church-separated-from-the-state thing.

Aside from their deep concern about the evil of the Pope I wonder what the left has to say about the following video, in which students from Wellesley Public High School in Boston were taken for a “social studies” cultural experience in the Roxbury Mosque. […]

I wonder whether the teachers have organised any similar visits to the temples of other faiths and have stood by while the students were actively pulled into prayer sessions. When left-wing atheists and agnostics claim that they’re tough on all religions, events such as the above make me very skeptical. Perhaps the left only support the separation of Christianity and state?

Exactly, Tom – the separation of the church from the state is ONLY an argument put forward by those who want to limit Judeo-Christian influence into our secular state. But when it comes to Islam it gets a free pass on the basis of being sensitive to other cultures and systems of belief. Of course, Islam isn’t alone in this.

So while it’s fine for our youth to get free tours of their local mosque (let the indoctrination begin), heaven forbid that they ever darken the doorway of a church, or suffer from hearing (Christian) prayers in school assemblies, etc.

And talking of religious news:
Did anyone catch up with the recent plot to assassinate the pope in London?

Pope visit: Five suspected Islamist terrorists arrested over assassination plot
Police have arrested five suspected Islamist terrorists, working as street cleaners in London, over an alleged plan assassinate the Pope.
By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent
Published: 3:09PM BST 17 Sep 2010

The men were arrested during raids at 5.45am at a rubbish depot in central London based on an intelligence tip off received overnight.

The suspects, aged 26, 27, 36, 40 and 50 were arrested by officers from Scotland Yard’s Counter Terrorism Command on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism. […]

I can’t recall our pandering MSM here (or the BBC et al) mentioning the Islamic link to the five arrested …
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September 19, 2010 11:49am
Don the Kiwi

GrumpyOH.

“ unreinforced concrete has fuck all strength against sheer loads.”

Dead right Grumpy.
There were fairly specific circumstances – the substrate had to be compacted to 100 mpa., and the concrete had to be min. 100mm thick.
There are other situations where the concrete manufacturers supply concrete with a fibre additive which is supposedly up to the same sheer strength as reinforcing mesh – but I have never used it.

I think Viking2 was confusing compaction strength of sub-strate – usually 75 – 100 mpa, but down to 50 mpa. with specific design, and the strength of concrete – usually 17.5 to 25 kpa. for residential. All commercial concrete is specific design by an engineer, and that’s probably why it hold up better as they go up to 50 mpa and higher.
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September 19, 2010 12:06pm
Don the Kiwi

Hang on – I’m getting mpa. and kpa. cocked up – its easy to happen.

Concrete strength is measured in mpa.
Substrate compaction is measured in kpa.

(I think – shit, now I’m confused) 😉
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September 19, 2010 12:11pm
Viking2

Nothings changed!!
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September 19, 2010 12:17pm
Don the Kiwi

Settle down Viking.
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September 19, 2010 12:19pm
eszett

@tom

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/wellesley/articles/2010/09/17/school_visit_to_mosque_decried/

Wong said the mosque visit took place as part of the sixth-grade social studies course, “Enduring Beliefs in the World Today,’’ which includes lessons on Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam. As part of the class, pupils also visit a synagogue, attend a gospel musical performance, and meet with Hindu religious representatives, she said.

Yes, they were visiting other religions as well.

I believe the controversy was that some students were imitating the prayers, for which the superintendent apologised

Five middle schoolers participated in the Muslim midday prayer at the mosque, she said. Some can be seen in the video imitating some of the movements.

“It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices,’’ Wong said. “The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error.’’

@ Kris K

Exactly, Tom – the separation of the church from the state is ONLY an argument put forward by those who want to limit Judeo-Christian influence into our secular state.

So what is your point Kris K? Do you or don’t you support the separation of Church and State?
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September 19, 2010 1:05pm
MyNameIsJack

[DPF: 20 demerits for trolling. It is well known the Pope was forced to join Hitler Youth as all German children were. I conclude you post this purely to antagonise and disrupt]

Fucking crap, it is the truth, not trolling, but some people just buy into the papal mythindustry.

Is it also well known that Ratzinger was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps? And is it also well known that Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry? These are facts. Is it also well known that as the allies approached, Ratzinger desrted?Not the action of an unwilling conscript. Again, this is FACT.

Many men were conscripted, those of good conscience chose to resist. Ratzinger did not show such courage. It is easy to say “He was conscripted”, harder to ignore the fact that he was an active participant in the German military.

Aren’t history books such wonderful resources?
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September 19, 2010 2:17pm
Don the Kiwi

MNIJ off.

More bullshit.

Where’s your documentary proof ?
You’re just a nasty venemous rumour monger who has not a clue what truth is.

Why don’t you crawl back to your dung heap.
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September 19, 2010 2:34pm
MyNameIsJack

Don, do the reading, it will broaden your mind. All that I posted is verifiable fact.

Interesting to note too the the six “terrorists” arrested for plotting against the Pope have now been released, without charge.
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September 19, 2010 2:51pm
bereal

Why allow yourselves to be sucked in and respond to MNIJ. Ignore him and he will go away. It reminds me of the Flat Earth Soc at high school. Dont play their game. Is he the new Phil u who ruined many good discussions in the same way.
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September 19, 2010 3:09pm
eszett

MNIJ, I never thought I’d be defending the Pope, but you are quite naive if you think that someone could have seriously resisted joining the Hitler Jugend or later on the military draft in a small Bavarian town.

To accuse or insinuate that Ratzinger is or was a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer is really silly. Historians have been over this and are quite confident in their verdict.

True, he was not a resistance fighter or anything like that. But he wasn’t a fanatic or a true believer in the Nazi ideology either.

You may ask that if he was destined to become Pope how come he did not have the superior moral judgement already back then. But calling him a Nazi just makes you look like a nutter.
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September 19, 2010 3:09pm
eszett

Interesting to note too the the six “terrorists” arrested for plotting against the Pope have now been released, without charge.

So your “heros” were not planning to kill the pope? Are they then not your “heros” any more?
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September 19, 2010 3:11pm
Don the Kiwi

bereal.

Yes, you’re right. MNIJ is the re-incarnated Philu.

A description was given several months ago of the aforementioned. It went:

“…you are the stinking disgusting stain of anal leakage on the underpants of humanity.”

This description also suits MNIJ perfectly.
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September 19, 2010 3:17pm
tom hunter

Yes, they were visiting other religions as well.

That’s why I put it as a question. I would think it a normal part of social studies to learn of the world’s religions.

But the Roxbury mosque? Did the school simply not know of it’s background with the Saudi’s (and as most left-wingers acknowledge, Saudi means Wahhabist). Did they really not know of Alamoudi or the Muslim Brotherhood? Are they that ignorant or was this simply another example of refusing to acknowledge the truth because they might be deemed “insensitive” or “racist”. The latter would certainly explain the following…

I believe the controversy was that some students were imitating the prayers, for which the superintendent apologised.

Just an error. Riiiiight. One of the many questions I would have is whether there would have been any possibility of such an “error” occurring in the first place during a visit to some Evangelical church? I doubt it. I don’t doubt they were a bit perturbed by the invitation to pray (and having seen the video I don’t believe for a moment Kaleem’s claim that the kids were not “invited”), but they were too intimidated to do anything about (I can easily see the victimisation outcry that would have resulted if they had intervened).

In short, the mosque treated the teachers as spineless, irrelevant schmucks from the outset in order to get to the kids.

The controversy is as much over the nature of the mosque that was visited and some of the other bullshit that was promulgated by that female speaker – the usual Islam-is-Superior-to-the-West garbage implied by the utterly ridiculous claim about woman taking part in the decision making of Muhammed’s world hundreds of years before the US granted woman the vote. I’ve heard some whoppers in my time but that’s close to the top. No apologies about that. Any chance that the teachers corrected that bullshit the next day back in the classroom – or would that have been deemed “insensitive” as well? Perhaps the real point is that the reporter never even thought to ask that question.

But what the hell – as a good member in standing of the modern left you probably agree with that sort of cultural equivalence crap? If you don’t there will be ones along here soon enough who do.
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September 19, 2010 3:22pm
labrator

My rules on how I decide if I read General Debate or not:
1) Search for the term “god”. More than 3 results: don’t read
2) Search for the term “muslim”. More than 3 results: don’t read

I haven’t had to come up with any more rules yet and I haven’t read General Debate in ages.
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September 19, 2010 3:22pm
tom hunter

labrator

It’s actually more about politics and culture than religion. Given the characteristics of Islam it has to be.
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September 19, 2010 3:28pm
bereal

Wake up you guys.
It doesn’t matter how compelling your argument is, MNIJ will still maintain the earth is flat.
He loves giving you an ulcer trying to mount cogent arguments to refute his dogma.
Wake up.
Ignore him.
You’l feel much better when you stop knocking your head against a brick wall
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September 19, 2010 3:29pm
kowtow

bereal et al;

You’re quite right about Jerk.
I think it’s best not to address him or engage directly. However ,do point out his stupid inconsistensies and false info. There are others reading here too that share his prejudices ,and perhaps mental illnesses,who need to be disabused.
Yesterday the Algerian street cleaners were “heroes” for wanting to kill the Pope, now they appear to be innocent victims of the presumably Papish capitalist establishment……eszett has beaten me to it.

I’ve read Ratzi’s auto bio,can’t remember it’s name . His family were anti Nazi,but not in a resistance kind of way . His brother was also a soldier,fought on many fronts,wounded. Ratzi did desert his flak unit. Lucky to get home alive. Nazis were all over the place looking for deserters and executing them right up to the bitter end. He was lucky not to have been caught.Like other Germans who served he was arrested and interned by the Americans for some months till he was released and able to continue his studies for the priesthood.
The man is fervently anti Marxist,so people who claim to be right wingers should recognise an ally and lay off the guy.
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September 19, 2010 3:32pm
Don the Kiwi

tom.

Probably what is more annoying WRT religion being discussed, is not so much that the topic can crop up in any general discussion, it is that arguments between differing beliefs go on and on, or proselytising like soap box street corner evangelists.

I don’t blame people for getting pissed off with that.

I would however resevre the right to defend false statements or denigration, only to the extent of the statement being corrected – I don’t mind reasoned criticism though, even if I don’t agree with it.
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September 19, 2010 3:39pm
eszett

Just an error. Riiiiight. One of the many questions I would have is whether there would have been any possibility of such an “error” occurring in the first place during a visit to some Evangelical church? I doubt it. I don’t doubt they were a bit perturbed by the invitation to pray (and having seen the video I don’t believe for a moment Kaleem’s claim that the kids were not “invited”), but they were too intimidated to do anything about (I can easily see the victimisation outcry that would have resulted if they had intervened)

You have no proof, but you have no doubt. I see.
As a good member of the standing modern right you, you don’t need any proof as long as you have made up your mind and it fits the story that you want to tell. Brilliant, really.

Yes, such an “error” could have occurred in any of the other churches. The only difference would be that no one would have made such a fuss about it.

You know, all those question you asked, you could have answered yourself if you would have cared to do just the slightest research. But that would not have been such a good post. Why ruin a good story with some facts? Why try to find some other side to the story?
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September 19, 2010 3:40pm
Rufus

MNIJ comes across as very young, and very naive. All bluster and no substance. Doesn’t think before opening his mouth, so to speak. Foolishness of youth and all.

The majority of his posts are offensive, probably intentionally so.

Jack, you really pissed me off on the 16th when you called the mother of a friend of mine a “religious nutbar” and “stupid”.

My response was as follows:

September 16th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

MyNameIsJack (1,485) Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

You just can’t resist you utter piece of shit can you?

Do you know Joan Tolmie? I do. And she’s not nearly a nutter. I remember her as an intelligent, kind, friendly woman. She’s a mum of two great boys, was a talented music teacher, and a generally nice person.

Try to be polite. Just because you cannot fathom her way of looking at the world, doesn’t mean you have to denigrate her like that.

You’re not making many friends here Jack.
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September 19, 2010 3:45pm
MyNameIsJack

Rufus, sorry, I didn’t see your response at the time or I would have replied.

However, I stand by my comment that ANYONE, Joan Tolmie or anyone else who claims that we owe thanks to god no lives were lost in the Chch earthquake IS a religious nutbar. I don’t care how kind or friendly she is, I don’t care how talented she may be, as none of that has anything to do with the fruitloop letter she had published in The Press.

But let’s just say, for sake of argument, she isn’t a religious nutbar, but she is right and we DO owe thanks to god. Do the victims of the Haiti earthquake, the Boxing Day Tsunami, the Victorian Bushfires also owe thanks to god? Bit hard to thank him though, seeing as they’re dead.

People who praise god for the good but forget to abuse god for the bad, are quite simply, religious nutbars.
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September 19, 2010 3:54pm
tristanb

Speaking of Philu – did anyone see the SST’s article about animal cruelty? Page A15.

I’m not entirely sure why Esther Harward decided to write about him – it’s not really news. Did he contact the paper to get a story about himself?

Anyway, I hope the SPCA fines him.
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September 19, 2010 4:14pm
bereal

Rufus and Kowtow.
See what I mean.
Why do it to yourselves. You can NEVER win with someone of his ilk.
Wake up, ignore him. He will not be able to stand that.
Then you win.
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September 19, 2010 4:17pm
Chthoniid

@Kowtow

The man is fervently anti Marxist,so people who claim to be right wingers should recognise an ally and lay off the guy.

Why?
Why- if I’m opposed to socialism- do I have to accept this guy as an ally?
He began his UK trip by attacking atheism, which is hardly grounds to consider him an ally.

He’s been culpable in the concealment of many sex-crimes to law enforcement agencies. He upholds dark-age superstitions and irrational thought as a means of interpreting the world around us.

I don’t want him as my ally. Being anti-Marxist isn’t adequate grounds to make him immune from criticism.
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September 19, 2010 4:17pm
eszett

People who praise god for the good but forget to abuse god for the bad, are quite simply, religious nutbars.

Anyone who defines nutbars on such a broad definition is a nutbar.
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September 19, 2010 4:28pm
Lucia Maria

He’s been culpable in the concealment of many sex-crimes to law enforcement agencies.

Not true.
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September 19, 2010 4:32pm
kowtow

Chthoniid;
Can you cite “chapter and verse” the concealment to law enforcement agencies.?Specifics please ,no cut and paste from anti Catholic newspapers.
Lots of people are banding these claims about and if there was legal substance to them I imagine a claim could ba taken in the British courts . He’s there at present . It’s been done to other alledged criminals, Pinochet and the former Israeli foreign minister.
If there was any real substance to these claims why doesn’t one of these human rights heroes have a go . Talk is cheap.
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September 19, 2010 4:35pm
Diziet Sma

Happy Suffrage Day! The day when women won the right to suffer the disappointments of elections fully.
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September 19, 2010 4:37pm
bereal

tristnb.
Thanks 4 pointing out that article. I didn’t twig that was the bloke that used to ruin Kiwiblog untill he got banned.
No surprise he is a bearded wonder. I would have bet he was.
By the same token, I wouldn’t stoop to calling MNIJ a derogatory name.
However I would bet that he is shorter than 5ft 6ins
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September 19, 2010 4:43pm
eszett

# Lucia Maria (340) Says:
September 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

He’s been culpable in the concealment of many sex-crimes to law enforcement agencies.

Not true.

Is true
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September 19, 2010 4:46pm
MyNameIsJack

Seems wikipedia agrees that Ratzinger aided and abetted those who commited sexual abuse crimes.

As Cardinal Ratzinger was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), the sexual abuse of minors by priests was his responsibility to investigate from 2001, when that charge was given to the CDF by Pope John Paul II.[3]

As part of the implementation of the norms enacted and promulgated on April 30, 2001 by Pope John Paul II,[4] on May 18, 2001 Ratzinger sent a letter to every bishop in the Catholic Church.[5] [6] This letter reminded them of the strict penalties facing those who revealed confidential details concerning enquiries into allegations against priests of certain grave ecclesiastical crimes, including sexual abuse, which were reserved to the jurisdiction of the Congregation. The letter extended the prescription or statute of limitations for these crimes to ten years. However, when the crime is sexual abuse of a minor, the “prescription begins to run from the day on that which the minor completes the eighteenth year of age.”[7] Lawyers acting for two alleged victims of abuse in Texas claim that by sending the letter the cardinal conspired to obstruct justice.[8] The letter did not, in fact, discourage victims from reporting the abuse itself to the police; the secrecy related rather to the internal investigation of the alleged crime, forbidding all parties to divulge what took place during the Church trial.[citation needed] The Catholic News Service reported that “the letter said the new norms reflected the CDF’s traditional “exclusive competence” regarding delicta graviora—Latin for “graver offenses”. According to Canon Law experts in Rome, reserving cases of clerical sexual abuse of minors to the CDF is something new. In past eras, some serious crimes by priests against sexual morality, including pedophilia, were handled by that congregation or its predecessor, the Holy Office, but this has not been true in recent years.”[9] The promulgation of the norms by Pope John Paul II and the subsequent letter by the then Prefect of the CDF were published in 2001 in Acta Apostolicae Sedis[10] which is the Holy See’s official journal, in accordance with the Code of Canon Law,[11] and is disseminated monthly to thousands of libraries and offices around the world.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Ratzinger_as_Prefect_of_the_Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith#Response_to_sex_abuse_scandal
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September 19, 2010 4:46pm
krazykiwi

Speaking of nutbars, to all those AKl’ers who are complaining about the low quality of super city mayoral candidates, I’d like to introduce you to one of the 6 candidates with their hat in the ring here in Wellington : Al Mansell, depicted at the top of the first page in the “Your Vote, Your Community” voter guide. Here’s his pitch for my vote:

I’ve always been a pessimist. I saw big nations acting like gangsters, and small ones like prostitutes. I saw the wealthy still enslaving the poor; slave-owners and overseers having merely been replaced by banks and corporations. I considered the situation hopeless.

I still see these things, but now, I see them as reasons to fight. Sure, change is hard. But it is possible, especially in times of crisis. We may be the generation that fights the final battle between free people and banks. We could be the people who win the war on drugs (go the drug team!). We could even create a free, peaceful and democratic society with these islands.

Big goals, but with ingenuity, fearlessness and solidarity, I think anything is possible. I can’t promise these things. All I can promise is to tell the truth as I see it, and to fight for my beliefs. Hard out.
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September 19, 2010 5:24pm
thedavincimode

kk

His form suggests that he’s the mad magpie’s cousin. But aside from the mad magpie himself (who isn’t standing – presumably because of the risk of having to actually do something) Auckland has Andrew Williams who is not only an idiot, but appears to have been a far more successful idiot in promoting himself.
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September 19, 2010 5:37pm
kowtow

For the anti Pope brigade, suck on this.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9582/
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September 19, 2010 5:43pm
Nookin

Knows how to rub it in, eh?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/4143711/Whats-in-a-name-Hanover-Finance-is-back
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September 19, 2010 5:50pm
krazykiwi

@thedavincimode – Yes they could be related. Drug addled and not too smart. Mansell found time to get himself arrested for smoking cannabis on the steps of the Wellington Central Police Station back in January.

Watch House staff at Wellington Central Police Station today (20/01/10) arrested local man al Mansell for smoking cannabis, on the steps of the Wellington Central Police Station. When the officers confronted Mr Mansell over his spotting bottle and knives, he rebuked the officers for the poor service, demanding to know the whereabouts of his “neenish tart and flat white”.

As Mr Mansell explained later in his statement to police, “I had a joint earlier with some mates at glue sniffer park. I asked for a good place to have a spot in town. My mate said there was one of those cannabis cafes, and directed me here. I think I may be the victim of a prank”.

Last June, Mr Mansell was arrested smoking a joint in the public gallery of parliament, in what he later said was a “terrible misunderstanding over the term ‘parliamentary privilege'”.

When there are only six people vying for election and one of them is someone like Mansell it’s time to reconsider the governance of local bodies.
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September 19, 2010 5:53pm
wikiriwhis business

Fall of the Republic

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/742.html
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September 19, 2010 6:55pm
Steve

South Island Pakeha are demanding their blankets and muskets back as they are claiming the land is faulty!
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September 19, 2010 6:59pm
krazykiwi

Far-Right party poised to take first seats in Sweden’s parliament

Swedes go to the polls on Sunday in an election which is likely to be a breakthrough for a far-Right party that had always seemed unelectable.

With his clean-cut looks, geeky spectacles, and sensible haircut, 31-year-old Jimmie Åkesson looks more like an accountant than a political extremist.

Yet in the past few weeks Mr Åkesson, leader of the far-Right Sweden Democrat party, has blamed immigrants for rape – especially Africans and Arabs.

His party has played crude television advertisements accusing burqa-clad Muslim women of taking benefits from white Swedish pensioners. And last year he called Islam the biggest threat to Sweden since the Second World War.

To the horror of his compatriots in one of Europe’s most liberal and tolerant nations, blaming foreigners has worked electoral magic.

When Swedes vote on Sunday Mr Åkesson’s anti-immigrant party will almost certainly win its first seats at a general election – and has even been predicted to come third with 7.5 per cent of the vote, according to one poll.

That would be enough to give them 28 seats out of a total of 349 in the Riksdag, Stockholm’s parliament, ahead of five more established parties, and hold the balance of power.
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But Mr Åkesson has won support by saying what for decades most Swedes have considered unthinkable.
“Swedish pensioners can’t afford to fix their broken teeth or pay for the medicine that would bring them back to health,” he said, blaming the generous welfare system for lavishing money on immigrants.

“Today’s multicultural Swedish power elite is completely blind to the dangers of Islam and Islamification,” was another of his claims. He has called for massive restrictions to be placed on immigration.

It is a message which has resonated with surprisingly large numbers of voters.
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September 19, 2010 7:20pm
Redbaiter

Saw that article too Krazy.

Just what is it about this party that makes them “far right”?

More idiot journalism.

What a bunch of damn ignorant fools these media people are. And so many other damn fools are sucked in by their idiot rantings.
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September 19, 2010 8:16pm
Viking2

More Green failure.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php
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September 19, 2010 8:19pm
tom hunter

The only difference would be that no one would have made such a fuss about it.

What was that you also said You have no proof, but you have no doubt. I see.

Indeed.

I’m being facetious but that’s a fairly pathetic comeback eszett.

Given the fact that this visit occurred at a mosque with this background, given that the male students were pulled into a prayer session which apprently breached Islamic rules itself, given that extraordinary claims were made in the mosque about woman and Islam, I hardly think it is a stretch to assume that the teachers were both ignorant and spineless. Your own article indicates that they could have visited a rather different mosque:

But to truly pray as a Muslim, a supplicant needs to undergo ritual ablutions, something few non-Muslim visitors ever do, said Dr. Abdul Cader Asmal, a board member and former president of the Wayland mosque, which is independent from the Roxbury center visited by the Wellesley students.
“It is so unfortunate,’’ Asmal said of the controversy, “when we have an opportunity to help encourage good relations and people with an agenda wreck the understanding we are trying to create.’’

an agenda to wreck the understanding we are trying to create

But of course you will assume that the only people with such an agenda are the people who do not agree with the specifics of this visit. The idea that such a “wrecking” agenda might come from the Roxbury group apparently no more occurs to you than it did to the high school twits who organised it.

The only place where I said I had “no doubt” was where I gave them the benefit of it – in that I figured they had been perturbed but too intimidated to prevent the students from being co-opted into the prayer session. It looks to me like the mosque played them for ignorant suckers. That seems preferable to thinking that they were all for it, which seems the only alternative.

Given that many of my friends over the years have been left-wingers, I’m very familar with the “oggedy boogedy” argument with regard to Christian influence on society. It was at it’s height when Reagan had his finger on the nuclear button: I was assured by any number of left-wingers then that nutty Christians were poised to unleash all sorts of hellfire (literally) on Western society. I did not hear any of them claiming that such fears were overblown, that Christians were being treated as objects of fear and derision, or that people were suffering from Christianphobia.

I base my argument not just on that personal experience (which does not seem unique) but on the accumulated evidence of the last few years with regard to the left and Islam, particularly since 9/11 – something that left-wingers such as Hitchens have written about extensively, so it’s hardly a right-wing observation.

But what I’ve also noticed over the last few years is that the same standards are not applied to Islam by the left. Given the tenets of the modern Left – post-colonial theories, multicultural theories, “The Other” and so forth, it’s hardly a surprise that the left is utterly useless in confronting Islamic crap like that seen in the Roxbury mosque. Much easier to confront the Western Right and Christians. Safer too!
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September 19, 2010 8:25pm
Hurf Durf

Leave my news feed out of it, viking2.
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September 19, 2010 8:58pm
krazykiwi

Just what is it about this party that makes them “far right”?

Not sure… probably because what’s reported in the MSM (even the Telegraph) is likely to be less than honest. I just think it’s interesting to see a move against progressive liberals starting to gather steam…

Mr Åkesson is one of a crop of far-Right politicians who have burst onto the political scene in recent years across Europe, frightening liberals and conservatives alike.

In the Netherlands the Party of Freedom of Geert Wilders has held the balance of power since an election in June, while in Hungary the Jobbik party – alleged to be both anti-Roma and anti-Semitic by its opponents – won parliamentary seats last spring.

In France the fears of President Sarkozy that he will lose ground at the 2012 election to the far-Right French Front National are blamed for his decision to begin expelling hundreds of Roma, provoking international condemnation.

Austria has also seen the rise of powerful new Right wing politicians, and in Britain the BNP have donned suits and adopted milder manners to try to appeal to voters disillusioned with Labour.

Claude Moraes, a Labour MEP and spokesman on justice and home affairs, said the far-Right political success seen in Europe in the past five years is not a flash in the pan.

“Middle and working class voters everywhere feel very isolated and unable to change anything, in particular because of the deep global recession. That feeling of helplessness assists the far Right.

“It varies from country to country, but people are voting for extreme and populist parties. And unlike in the past, these parties are establishing themselves in poltical systems.”
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September 19, 2010 9:30pm
MikeNZ

Thanks for that labrator
3X
that gives me a target each day :-0
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September 19, 2010 9:55pm
eszett

The only place where I said I had “no doubt” was where I gave them the benefit of it – in that I figured they had been perturbed but too intimidated to prevent the students from being co-opted into the prayer session. It looks to me like the mosque played them for ignorant suckers. That seems preferable to thinking that they were all for it, which seems the only alternative.

again, you are stating your assumptions as a fact. nowhere is the any evidence for any coercion or intimidation. you simply made it up because it suits you.

Do you really think that a video showing 5 boys studying the Torah would have created such a fuss with the “Americans for Peace and Tolenrance”? I doubt it.

I agree witn you that some on the left have false sensitivities when it comes to critising Islam. That is inexcusable. And others such as Hitchens, Sam Harris, Dawkins, PZ Myers have been quite vocal not just on Islam but also any attempts on accommodating Islam.

However some are prepared to jump on any bandwagon critising Islam, seeing evil consipracies everywhere, making a mountain of every molehill. You did not even bother to check the story any further than wherever you got it from, you just took it at face value. As much as you accuse me of not thinking outside my preconceptions, you never did yourself. Everything has to fit with your narrative, any other explanation is dismissed.

You have every right to question the actions of the school. But you equally try shut down any discussion of the those questions with your triade against the left being apologetic to Islam.
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September 20, 2010 1:21am
Viking2

The debate on Broadband at last. Before we wastefully spend money.

TelstraClear tests 100Mbps in Wellington
By TOM PULLAR-STRECKER – The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 20/09/2010
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TelstraClear will trial a 100 megabit per second broadband service in Wellington next week and step up its efforts to persuade the Government that it would be wasting taxpayers’ money overbuilding its cable networks in Wellington and Christchurch with fibre-optic cable.

Chief executive Allan Freeth said it would invite about half-a-dozen people to test the service, which will provide download speeds of 100Mbps and upload speeds of 10Mbps, hoping that would generate debate about the uses of ultrafast broadband.

Depending on demand, TelstraClear could launch that as a commercial service by June, he said.

The 100Mbps trial was intended to send a message to both the Government and Crown Fibre Holdings that their aspirations had been achieved here, he said.

It will coincide with a billboard campaign that claims Communications Minister Steven Joyce can “put his feet up” as ultrafast broadband is already coming to the capital.

The Government has proposed investing $1.35 billion in a fibre-to-the-home UFB network that would provide minimum download speeds of 100Mbps and upload speeds of 50Mbps.

Dr Freeth said overbuilding TelstraClear’s HFC networks would be “an irrational economic move”.

“We have a very popular triple-play service which we are continually upgrading. But people seem to develop philosophy-driven perspectives and may just believe they have to have [fibre-to-the-home] everywhere, in which case that has some pretty serious consequences for us and we will compete ferociously in the market.” A Crown Fibre spokesman said Wellington and Christchurch were included in the UFB scheme. “TelstraClear’s decisions or comments related to UFB are theirs to make.”

TelstraClear was genuinely interested in testing demand for a 100Mbps service, Dr Freeth said. In addition to the trial, the company would invite people to join an online debate. “It truly is of interest to us and the network guys to say `just how is this going to be used out there?”‘
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September 20, 2010 6:37am
Viking2

Why we should not rush changes to the Foreshore Legislation.
Already Maori are complaining and looking for ways around the Issue.
Do we trust a Cabinet Minister in ant Govt. to not bow to pressure to concede?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10674660

Customary title claims hit confiscation hurdle
By Yvonne Tahana
5:30 AM Monday Sep 20, 2010

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In and around Tauranga harbour, three iwi say Crown confiscation of their lands during the 1860s will make gaining customary title problematic. Photo / Bay of Plenty Times
In and around Tauranga harbour, three iwi say Crown confiscation of their lands during the 1860s will make gaining customary title problematic. Photo / Bay of Plenty Times

Bay of Plenty iwi say land confiscations in the 1860s could scuttle any chance of gaining customary title to tracts of the foreshore in their area.

From Orokawa Bay near Waihi in the western Bay of Plenty to Hawai on the eastern shores, Maori own 157.1km, or 21.3 per cent, of land abutting the foreshore.
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September 20, 2010 6:51am
MikeNZ

http://www.debka.com/weekly/461/

Some interesting reads.
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September 20, 2010 8:53am
joana

For years now , Swedish girls have been dying their hair because they feel that being blond greatly increases their chances of being raped by immigrants.
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