General Debate 13 July 2010

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Yvette

A hard man is good to find.
– Mae West
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July 13, 2010 8:15am
starboard

…here I am..
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July 13, 2010 8:18am
Viking2

Welcome to another nice day.
Cold but nice.
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July 13, 2010 8:23am
Inventory2

Whatever happened to Global Warming?
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July 13, 2010 8:33am
andrei

Whatever happened to Global Warming?
Oh Nick Smith et al have fixed it, now that we have an ETS we wont have to worry about it anymore.

We all can be truly grateful
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July 13, 2010 8:39am
Manolo

Unabated lunacy from the warmists. Read on http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/09/AR2010070902341_pf.html
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July 13, 2010 8:40am
Pete George

Whatever happened to Global Warming?

That’s in Europe and the US at the moment.

The weather can be strange, inland here it’s cold as, but again this winter on the coast we are having less frosts than normal.
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July 13, 2010 8:40am
mattyroo

That’s in Europe and the US at the moment.

That’s called Summer you knob.
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July 13, 2010 8:45am
Manolo

“The weather can be strange, inland here it’s cold as, but again this winter on the coast we are having less frosts than normal.”

The warmist left and fellow travelers will never run out of excuses to justify legislation, higher taxes, and more state control over the lives of its citizens. From rigged “scientific” reports and selective statistics to blatant lies, any pretext to advance the cause of AGW will do.
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July 13, 2010 8:47am
Inventory2

@ Pete – we live three streets back from the beach in Wanganui. Yesterday was the heaviest frost I can remember in the seven years we’ve been living there. At 7am, the air temp at the airport (roughly the same distance from the beach as our place) was -2.2*C. An air frost like that is rare in Wanganui.
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July 13, 2010 8:49am
KiwiGreg

@ Inventory if it’s colder it’s just weather; if it’s warmer it’s part of the overall climactic trend of global warming.
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July 13, 2010 8:57am
Inventory2

Dead right KiwiGreg – it’s whatever best suits one’s particular agenda. I guess that applies to pretty much all of us who have strong opinions. For others, it’s just what it is!
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July 13, 2010 9:01am
dad4justice

“but again this winter on the coast we are having less frosts than normal.”

What a crock of shit you nitwit. Your comments are deranged. Are you a mechanical robotic troll that constantly dribbles meaningless rhetoric? You make me sick.
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July 13, 2010 9:08am
Pete George

d4j, I live on the coast and drive to work each morning. This winter (and last) there have been a few light frosts but nothing like what we previously got, it was common for parts of the streets to be in frost all day but not over the last two winters when it’s only been patchy.

Inland they are having a run of hard frosts, hoar frosts in Central Otago.

I was talking to both my daughters last night in Europe (one lives there) – they are having a run of hot weather at the moment which is more than normal.

I’m well aware this is the weather and not the climate.
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July 13, 2010 9:17am
Jibbering Gibbon

Whatever happened to Global Warming?

Saw it over eastern skyline this morning. Seems to be higher and a little further to west since then. Off to plant trees to stop it happening again. Hang on, do I have to plant trees or cut them down?
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July 13, 2010 9:18am
Inventory2

Lock up your daughters Wellingtonians. Peter de Villiers has given the Springboks a new role model to follow …

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/07/oh-peter.html
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July 13, 2010 9:32am
Pete George

Interesting comments I2, wasn’t Tiger Woods the person who used to be top of his game and is now struggling to get results? Is that what the Boks are looking “up” to?
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July 13, 2010 9:37am
Inventory2

@ dad4justice – Pete was just talking about the weather FFS! Calm down Dad, or it’s going to be a long day 🙂
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July 13, 2010 9:38am
backster

…………………………..More Carbon Needed……….

Queenstown had the 3rd lowest air temperature since their records started in 1871………and thats before NIWA will start making up their adjustments to fit the world wide scam.
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July 13, 2010 9:45am
Whafe

Again, Pete, do you grow any crops that a dependent on weather? No didnt think so……
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July 13, 2010 9:51am
gravedodger

Geez pete if I lie in bed another hour there is a lot less frost. I live about 900 mtrs from the beach and we have had 3 rippers the last 3 days, up there with anything in the 10 years we have lived here and on an emergency call at 0800 hrs yesterday there were the iciest streets in that 10 years.
Before anyone starts, I completely understand the difference between climate and weather,just as i understand the effects of sunspots, planet axis variations, watervapour and volcanic activity among other influences on our climate. What I am struggling with is the socalled relativity of CO2 when its concentrations in the atmosphere are so minor percentagewise and through the long history of our planet with methane emmissions and natural forrest fires etc what we are producing is of much more concern with resource depletion and health risks than the AGW scam..
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July 13, 2010 10:10am
Inventory2

@ backster – and Te Kuiti and Taumarunui have had their coldest nights since the keeping of records began in the late 1940’s – and I’ve just had an e-mail from my golf club, saying that the greens are unlikely to be playable before 10am for the next few days. This is bloody cold weather in the Central North Island, by whatever standard you measure it.

Oh, and the maximum temperature on the Turoa skifield today will be -1*C. So much for the predictions a few years ago that the NI skifields were headed for extinction. . Turoa already has a snow base of almost 1 metre, and typically doesn’t get the bulk of its snow until August.
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July 13, 2010 10:15am
Murray

Pete Bethune – serial dickhead.

Next suspended sentance he gets will probaly hurt a lot more than the last one.
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July 13, 2010 10:16am
mattyroo

Here we go again: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3911611/Call-for-helmets-after-ski-deaths

Off with the wowsers heads.
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July 13, 2010 10:19am
Murray

Jibbering Gibbon, you have to:

Plant trees and feel good about,
feel bad because you drove to where you planted the trees,
feel good because 55% of what you paid for your petrol was taxation,
feel bad because this tax required administration which increased your carbon footprint,
feel good because you are paying extra tax that offsets your carbon footprint,
feel bad because that tax is being sent to Russia to fund super model spies with large brests but no brains,
feel good because John Key told you wanted to pay this tax.
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July 13, 2010 10:20am
Pete George

Whafe at 9:51 am

Again, Pete, do you grow any crops that a dependent on weather? No didnt think so……

Jumping to conclusions?

Yes, I do grow crops. Garden, fruit and nut trees – planted about 25. Have planted 300-ish daffodils which are a good indicator of the timing of spring. Have planted 150 rhododendrons and keep an eye on when they bud.
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July 13, 2010 10:21am
Komata

FWIW, apprpos the temperatures we are experiencing in different parts of the country:

As one who grew up in the Waikato, moved away then came back, I have to say that the frosts here are almost non-existent.

Up until the late ’60’s We would get six weeks (seriously!!) of really hard, ‘kill all the bugs and blights’-type frosts, but now if we get one ‘hard’ frost a year it’s unusual. Locals I have talked to are of the opinion that the climate has largely changed as a result of the swamps being drained and the consequent reduction of water as a ‘starter’ for the low temperatures.

As I said, FWIW, but we were in Newmarket (Auckland) last Sunday (11 July) and had a ‘weld the windscreen-wipers to the glass’ type frost – and this only 3 miles from the sea.

Global warming?

No, just the planet doing what it is designed to do – be self-maintaining and a home fo mankind.
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July 13, 2010 10:36am
Fletch

If anyone has been watching the One News weather, they’ve been having temperatures down south that are the coldest since records began.
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July 13, 2010 11:13am
Manolo

The appeasing ostrich-like policies of the Messiah: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/11/obama-at-odds-with-petraeus-doctrine-on-islam/
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July 13, 2010 11:50am
RightNow

Anyone prepared to define ‘Islamic duty’ in the context below?

A Somali terrorist group tied to Al Qaeda reveled in the tears and blood they spilled in Uganda as they claimed responsibility for simultaneous bombings that tore through World Cup parties in the country’s capital Monday night, killing 74 people.

Al-Shabab militants said they would carry out attacks “against out enemy” wherever they are. “No one will deter us from performing our Islamic duty,” said Sheik Ali Mohamud Rage, a group spokesman in Mogadishu.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/11/uganda-bombs-explode-sites-deaths-feared-somali-militia-blamed/
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July 13, 2010 12:23pm
Jack5

Bernard Hickey, the financial pundit, joins the mob of China grovellers with a piece in today’s Hooerald.

Here’s what Money Motor Mouth wants:

…Chinese language television, correspondents based in China, mass Chinese language learning and a much deeper understanding of how China works. It would require New Zealanders broadly, including pakeha, Maori and Pacific Island New Zealanders, to really welcome home the 400,000 or so Chinese New Zealanders who will live here by 2026….

Hickey also wants us to learn Mandarin. Hickey is correct that NZers need to learn far more foreign languages. That is a weakness in most countries where English is the dominant tongue – because of course English is the world’s lingua franca at the moment. Obviously, Mandarin should be one of the main languages we learn, as should Japanese and perhaps Korean, alongside Spanish, Hindi, Russian and others. The more NZ residents who speak more languages, the better.

However, over all Hickey joins the sell-out mob who welcome as inevitable Chinese dominance of NZ population. Without even, of course, the equivalent of a Treaty of Waitangi to protect white and Maori rights.

Got to say as a South Islander, I feel less and less commonality with Auckland, which is becoming an Asian city, exporting fuck all and consuming most of the country’s exports. It’s size relevant to the rest of the country resembles that of main cities in central American Third World states to their hinterlands. Hickey’s future for NZ, IMHO, is more like that of Honduras than a thriving Hong Kong.

How much better it would be for South Islanders if southern NZ were a state of Australia rather than destined to be sucked into the Third World as peasants propping up Auckland. You can bet the white flight that is under way from Auckland to the South Island (Christchurch, Marlborough-Nelson, and Queenstown) would increase dramatically. As for Hickey and similar China-worshipping Auckland whites, they are welcome to their future as the new colonists’ lackeys. May they enjoy successes of Auckland at table tennis.

By the way Chris Trotter, who has replaced crazy Minto as the main leftist commentator in the Fairfucked NZ newspaper chain, has a good piece in today’s Christchurch Press. He’s far more rational than Minto. Good one, Fairfax!

Hickey’s piece:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10658442
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July 13, 2010 12:24pm
Jack5

In my 12.24 post I said Auckland consumed most of the country’s exports. I meant, of course, most of its imports
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July 13, 2010 12:28pm
starboard

Two men have been arrested after a police dog was shot and killed and two police officers were shot and injured in Christchurch..

…family group conference time…wet bus ticket slap coming up for the scum culprits.
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July 13, 2010 1:30pm
bearhunter

Pete George: “I was talking to both my daughters last night in Europe (one lives there) – they are having a run of hot weather at the moment which is more than normal.”

Funnily enough I was talking to my mother last night in Europe (Ireland) and she said the weather was depressingly familiar – pissing down and cold for this time of year. Must be very localised global warming…
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July 13, 2010 2:09pm
Brian Smaller

@ Pete – we live three streets back from the beach in Wanganui. Yesterday was the heaviest frost I can remember in the seven years we’ve been living there. At 7am, the air temp at the airport (roughly the same distance from the beach as our place) was -2.2*C. An air frost like that is rare in Wanganui.

IV2 – in Mangamahu we had -5oC yesterday morning. For three days in a row we couldn’t have showers or refil the toilet cistern after it was flushed becasue the water in the pipes from our storage tank to the house had frozen. We are 35km from you. when I left for Wellington yesterday afternoon there was still deep frost on the ground at 16:00 in places.
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July 13, 2010 2:23pm
Brian Smaller

Also – a guy in a ute spun out behidn me at 06:15 this morning on SH2 near Normandale bridge in Lower Hutt on black ice. There were another two cars spun out a few hundred metres down the road. The ice was half an inch thick in places on that road.
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July 13, 2010 2:27pm
DJP6-25

Once the Socialists have either realised the game is up for “global warming” or imposed ETS/Cap and Trade, they’ll try a new scam. My guess it will be the “obesity epidemic”. Think “Minister for obesity issues”, or some other PC title. Units on”healthy eating” in state “schools”. The MSM beating the “obesity” drum. More positions and power for otherwise unemployable Socialists with BAs in Gender studies and Art History. No doubt, they’ll go after McDonalds, Burger King, KFC etc the same way they went after the tobacco companies in the 70s and 80s. Ther’ll be legisation proposed against trans fats too I guess. Better enjoy Mickey Ds while it’s still here. What do the rest of you think?

cheers

David Prosser
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July 13, 2010 3:09pm
Kris K

Manolo 11:50 am,

The appeasing ostrich-like policies of the Messiah: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/11/obama-at-odds-with-petraeus-doctrine-on-islam/

From your link:

Obama at odds with Petraeus doctrine on ‘Islam’

John O. Brennan, President Obama’s chief national security adviser for counterterrorism, delivered a major policy address on defining the enemy. He laid out the White House policy of detaching any reference to Islam when referring to terrorists, be it al Qaeda, the Taliban or any other group.

But Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the man tapped by Mr. Obama as the new top commander in Afghanistan, led the production of an extensive counterinsurgency manual in December 2006 that does, in fact, tell commanders of a link between Islam and extremists.

The Petraeus doctrine refers to “Islamic insurgents,” “Islamic extremists” and “Islamic subversives.” It details ties between Muslim support groups and terrorists. His co-author was Gen. James F. Amos, whom Mr. Obama has picked as the next Marine Corps commandant and Joint Chiefs of Staff member.

Mr. Brennan on May 26 told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies that “describing our enemy in religious terms would lend credence to the lie propagated by al Qaeda and its affiliates to justify terrorism, that the United States is somehow at war against Islam. The reality, of course, is that we have never been and will never be at war with Islam. After all, Islam, like so many faiths, is part of America.”

Let’s be clear – the US, and indeed the entire non Islamic world, is in a death struggle with Isalm; Islam’s aim is a global hegemony under Sharia law with total submission to the moon god, Allah.
This IS a war by any other name – let’s not pretend otherwise.

To say that “Islam … is part of America”, is like saying murder, terror, female genital mutilation, using women and children as human shields, or believing that Mohammed is someone to model one’s life upon … “is part of America”.
A I’ve said before, appeasing Islam will only hasten the destruction, and eventual Islamisation, of those that go down this road. “Peace in our time” it will not be.

In a speech that also severed the Obama administration from President George W. Bush’s “war on terror,” Mr. Brennan also said: “The president’s strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind and, as Americans, we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself of one’s community.”

[…]

More head in the sand ignorance (or is it actually complicity?).
If a ‘system of belief’ uses terrorism, has used terrorism since its inception, and the founder of that ‘system of belief’ was a terrorist as detailed in the ‘system’s’ manifesto and original writings – then that ‘system’ is the enemy.
Islam meets ALL the above criteria.

That Obama refuses to acknowledge this is, I believe, indicative of his REAL aims to ‘sell out’ America to the cause of Islam (among others).

Larry Korb, a military analyst at the Center for American Progress, said Mr. Brennan is correct to avoid linking Islam to terrorism.

“Once you attach a religious thing, you’re basically saying somehow or other this is caused by the religion,” Mr. Korb said. “Most Muslims are not that way.”

He added, “If you put that term [Islamic terrorist] on there, it causes you more problems in the long run. You don’t want to see this as a war on quote unquote the Muslim world. If I took a look at all the people, for example, who killed abortion doctors and I said they’re Christian terrorists, or something like that, and they are all who have done that. That is their interpretation of the Bible. But most people are not. Some of these people will quote the Bible and say I had to go after this doctor because he’s killing innocents.”

[…]

Once again we get a comparison between Christianity and Islam. Of course, a ‘Christian’ who murders an abortionist is going against everything Christ and the New Testament stands for, as he is indeed a murderer.
Whereas a Jihadist or Islamist who murders and commits acts of atrocity to “further the cause of Allah” is being entirely consistent with the teachings of the Koran and Hadith. And, of course, he is following the example as employed by the founder of Islam, Mohammed.

As I said earlier, we are indeed AT WAR WITH ISLAM – to pretend otherwise is beyond naive, and is in spite of the increasing evidence which confronts us on a daily basis.

Wake up, people!
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July 13, 2010 3:20pm
AlphaKiwi

Mein Kampf, the blue print for Nazism, and the Koran, the blueprint for Islam, seem to have a lot of hate for anyone who opposes them. Why did we stand up against the views in one blueprint, but refuse to stand up against the other?
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July 13, 2010 4:20pm
RightNow

They insist on bringing a spork to a gunfight.
Associate Professor John Abraham is about to get his butt sued off him by Lord Monckton after a half-baked ‘rebuttal’ turns out to be nothing more than name calling and appealing to authority.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/monckton-warm-abra-qq2.pdf
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July 13, 2010 4:36pm
Pete George

name calling and appealing to authority.

??

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Abraham-reply-to-Monckton.html
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July 13, 2010 4:56pm
RightNow

Pete, you’re about a month out of date. Monckton replied (see the PDF I linked to) to Abraham and gave him a month to respond or withdraw and apologise. Read Monckton’s #466 in the PDF – it is a clear indication that he intends to sue.
If it goes ahead (and barring a full apology from Abraham I’m certain it will) then the court case will likely become a proxy for the debate around AGW.
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July 13, 2010 5:22pm
RightNow

I’ll save you some trouble:

466: Will you, therefore, now be good enough to take down your talk from whatever public places it has
reached; to pay $10,000 to the United States Association of the Order of Malta for its charitable work in
Haiti; to ensure that your University, which failed upon my request to have your talk taken off its servers at
once, pays $100,000 to the same charity for the same purpose; and publicly to disseminate a written apology
and retraction substantially in the following terms:
“The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
“We, St. Thomas University, Minnesota, and John Abraham of that University,
retract, apologize to Lord Monckton for, and undertake never again to repeat all or
any part of, the 83-minute talk with 115 slides entitled “But Chris Monckton Said
…”, that we prepared without notification to him and then widely disseminated via
the University’s servers and other media.
“We have agreed that, in token of our good faith, by 30 June 2010 without fail we
shall have paid between us US$110,000 to the United States Association of the
Sovereign Military Order of Malta for its charitable work in the reconstruction and
relief of Haiti.”
Yours faithfully,
Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
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July 13, 2010 5:24pm
RightNow

Although you really should at least glance at Monckton’s response, he is so going to fill Abraham the spork-fighter full of lead.

E.G:
27: What evidence do you have for your assertion that I said, “The world’s not warming” (2) Did I display
a slide showing global temperatures for the past 160 years, and did that slide indicate that the world was
warming? Hint: the slide is below, alongside another slide showing the same dataset.
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July 13, 2010 5:28pm
Steve

So we have Global Warming, Climate Change, ice melting, ice not melting, cold rain in northern hemisphere summer, hailstorms in NZ summer. Then we have the ETS.
Somehow tax is going to fix all of this right?
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July 13, 2010 6:12pm
Viking2

Shot officer an experienced senior constable

Tuesday, 13, Jul, 2010 2:36PM

A 51-year-old senior constable is undergoing surgery in Christchurch after being shot in the jaw.

HMMM wonder if this is the same person who not so long ago shot dead a citizen down that way?
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July 13, 2010 6:47pm
dad4justice

There are many cold cases in lala Cantabland silly Viking2 nutbar.
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July 13, 2010 6:53pm
starboard

HMMM wonder if this is the same person who not so long ago shot dead a citizen down that way

…no , its not. The shot copper is a dog handler ( 1 of 2 shot )…the copper you are referring to is a Sgt.
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July 13, 2010 6:56pm
krazykiwi

Once the Socialists have either realised the game is up for “global warming” or imposed ETS/Cap and Trade, they’ll try a new scam. My guess it will be the “obesity epidemic”.

Nice suggestion. Put that one on the list. Next up is the *ahem* imminent Biodiversity Crisis. My MSM-Google news count for this term is increasing. Look out for fun new expressions such as ‘peak fish’, ‘peak bees’ etc. Check out this about TEEB.
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July 13, 2010 7:07pm
Pete George

Should GST be scrapped on healthy foods? – poll result is nuts (and that’s not referring to a healthy food).
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July 13, 2010 7:07pm
dad4justice

“HMMM wonder if this is the same person who not so long ago shot dead a citizen down that way”

No it was not, Anton the psycho Dutchman was not involved.
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July 13, 2010 7:09pm
Pete George

Look out for fun new expressions such as ‘peak fish’, ‘peak bees’ etc. “

Peak coal?
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July 13, 2010 7:12pm
big bruv

Seriously, is anybody surprised that this happened in Christchurch?, it is always South Auckland or Crimechurch.
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July 13, 2010 7:21pm
Chicken Little

I’m looking forward to the massive reduction in MPs air flights now that the new improved ETS is law.

I mean, surely those 114 people in Parliament, that support this law, and their hangers on wouldn’t be so hypocritical as to pass a law taxing the plebs for carbon this and carbon that yet not lead by example, would they?

The Greens obviously will not fly at all since they are so concerned about the future of the planet.

I expect National to reduce their flights by at least 50% to help save us all from a catastrophic climate disaster.

Labour – well, their ETS was worse than Nationals so a 75% reduction should be about right for them.

Maori party probably same as Nationals 50% reduction, sorry kids no special racial quotas when it comes to the future of the planet.

ACT – you guys can fly as much as you always have since you are the only ones that can see through the hysteria.

I look forward to all the other extreme parliamentary savings that will be made in order to help save us all from this very real threat to our grandchildren and their future because I just know that the Nats have got our welfare at heart with these fantastic new taxes they are introducing. I really would hate to think that they’re all just a bunch of hypocritical cunts.
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July 13, 2010 7:22pm
krazykiwi

Peak coal?

Never mix your drinks, and similarly never mix your global alarmist scams. Peak Coal belongs in with the enviro-scares (eg nuclear winter, global cooling, global warming, climate change).
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July 13, 2010 7:30pm
Pete George

It was a joke krazy, did you look at the link?
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July 13, 2010 7:43pm
Put it away

Chicken Little – “Labour – well, their ETS was worse than Nationals so a 75% reduction should be about right for them.”

They could achieve that by banning Parekura from flying. Every time one of his flights staggers and wheezes into the air, Peak Jet Fuel inches a little bit closer…
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July 13, 2010 7:45pm
krazykiwi

Yup. Gotta say that’s not my favorite style of mining. There’s certainly no peak afterwards!
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July 13, 2010 7:46pm
krazykiwi

Hey how about Peak MP’s? There’s a glaring absence of politico-diversity in our current bunch. Mostly epiphytes, parasites and dinosaurs, with too few self-supporting, meat-eating primates.
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July 13, 2010 7:50pm
Viking2

Can’t resist posting this from Aussie.
Fortune telling NZ’s future.

Blue-tongue lizards were once the lords of Sydney’s backyards, but high-density development is banishing them to the city’s fringe.

Wildlife groups are reporting that blue-tongues and other natives, such as the tawny frogmouth, are being pushed to the edge of the city by more intense development and higher human population density.

”Even 10 years ago so many backyards had a blue-tongue but nowadays, due to snail baits and dogs and cats, you hardly see them any more – it’s a highlight if you do see one,” the general manager of the Australian Reptile Park, Mary Rayner, said.

Nz in the future. no blue tongues and other natives , no frog blogs and all down to ratbatiers and slug killers.

So ratbaiters unite; gone are the blues and the browns along with their froggy mates.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/bluetongue-lizards-banished-from-backyard-to-city-outksirts-20100712-107yy.html
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July 13, 2010 7:51pm
Viking2

Why Aussie doesn’t need Gillard.

Gillard announces tax break on school uniforms
July 13, 2010 – 1:20PM

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has revealed she is in favour of mandatory school uniforms, saying they give children a valuable sense of self and discipline.

Announcing that parents would receive a tax break on the cost of uniforms if Labor wins the next federal election, Ms Gillard said standard school wear was a class leveller.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-announces-tax-break-on-school-uniforms-20100713-108gi.html
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July 13, 2010 7:58pm
Viking2

For the technically interested.

BP says oil gusher capped
July 13, 2010 – 12:45PM

BP fixes new cap on oil leak

Robots attach a new, tighter-fitting cap on top of the gushing Gulf of Mexico oil leak, raising hopes that the three month leak may be finally stemmed.

BP has placed a new tighter-fitting cap over the leaking oil well in the Gulf of Mexico, hoping it will stem the catastrophic flow of toxic crude once and for all.

Robotic submarines pierced the near darkness 1.6 kilometres down on the sea floor with special lights and relayed live pictures of the operation that could be the beginning of the end of the disaster after 13 weeks.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/bp-says-oil-gusher-capped-20100713-108ep.html?autostart=1
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July 13, 2010 8:02pm
Viking2

At last a definitive reason why the Cantabs always win the rugby. It seems white men have lower belly buttons and therefore lower centres of gravity compared with black men.
Its true, read this.

Belly-buttons key to success in sport
WASHINGTON
July 13, 2010 – 10:27AM

Nary a button in sight at the Olympics swimming.

Nary a button in sight at the Olympics swimming. Photo: Vince Caligiuri

Scientists have found the reason why blacks dominate on the running track and whites in the swimming pool – it’s in their belly-buttons.

http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/bellybuttons-key-to-success-in-sport-20100713-1089b.html
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July 13, 2010 8:19pm
Chicken Little

Krazy – when do you think the tipping point for peak MPs will hit?

Will it be worse than we thought?

What can we, as concerned citizens, do about this complete disaster staring us in the face?

Is there an alternative to MPs or will humankind have to develop one before the world ends in 2011 (peer reviewed?)?

Will the old adage ‘ the only good MP is a dead MP ‘ take on more relevance to the everyday person as the peak MP tipping point draws closer?

Ohhh….won’t they think of the children?
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July 13, 2010 8:22pm
big bruv

“It seems white men have lower belly buttons and therefore lower centres of gravity compared with black men.”

So it’s not a matter of only five darkies per Crusaders team but more a matter of five players with high belly buttons?

Seriously, the lengths that the sheep shaggers will go to hide their blatant racism is hilarious.
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July 13, 2010 8:27pm
Hurf Durf

The enviros should be more concerned about Peak IQ; theirs never seem to rise above 80.
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July 13, 2010 8:29pm
Johnboy

“It seems white men have lower belly buttons and therefore lower centres of gravity compared with black men.”

I am white and my belly button is low to the ground.

Guess I’m superior to black men or perhaps its just because my legs are too short and my beer gut sags. 🙂
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July 13, 2010 8:35pm
dad4justice

“Seriously, the lengths that the sheep shaggers will go to hide their blatant racism is hilarious.”

Haha what a deranged crackpot big blouse. Seriously get some professional treatment for your deteriorating disorder.
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July 13, 2010 8:36pm
Johnboy

“Seriously, the lengths that the sheep shaggers will go to hide their blatant racism is hilarious.”

I’ll shag white sheep or black sheep.

I don’t see anything funny about that!
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July 13, 2010 8:40pm
Viking2

Looks like the Cantabs are in the crap again. What is it about that place?

Statutory managers say Aorangi investors face losses on second ranked, interest-free loans to related parties
Posted in News Updated Tuesday, July 13, 2010 – 5:18pm, Gareth Vaughan

Allan Hubbard’s statutory manager Grant Thornton has released its first report showing investors in his Aorangi Securities shouldn’t expect any money back any time soon and warns it is concerned about a lack of paper work.

It said it had also frozen a further NZ$70 million in Hubbard Management Funds, a vehicle it wasn’t aware of previously where the accounts were hand written and where further money had been lost.
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July 13, 2010 8:59pm
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

You do know don’t you, Johnboy, that white sheep in New Zealand eat more than black sheep?
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July 13, 2010 8:59pm
Johnboy

No. I didn’t PIA.

As long as they don’t eat as much KFC as black sheep they should still outlive them.
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July 13, 2010 9:08pm
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

OK, so I apologise for this – but my father used to get me with it when I was a little kid –
black sheep don’t eat so much as white sheep because there aren’t so many of them. Well, I have said sorry.
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July 13, 2010 9:38pm
Jack5

What is it with big bruv and Canterbury (7.21 and 8.27 posts)?

Keep your nose in your wok, Big Blouse.
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July 13, 2010 9:56pm
Viking2

Someone asked what’s left for Act to gain from A national led Govt.
Heres a good start. The post is worth a good read as it also deals with the gutting of the IHC and other Charity based organizations by Labour and Social Welfare warlord Hughes.

A TRIUMPH OF IDEOLOGY OVER COMMON SENSE

In politics, ideology can be very dangerous if imposed without proper constraint. Nine years of rampant socialism saw New Zealand’s public policy framework inundated with ideological dogma. From the dumbing down of the education system, to the massive expansion of the welfare state, to the undermining of the family, to the erosion of private property rights, to the imposition of extreme environmentalism, to the relentless expansion of the state sector at the expense of the country’s wealth creators – the list goes on and on.

Sheltered workshops, a core part of New Zealand society, had been established during the 1920s to provide employment for disabled people who wanted to work but were not able to hold down regular paid jobs.

A shocking aspect of the way the Labour Government went about changing this law was their failure to consult with the families who were going to be affected.

Once established, such a special Legislative Review Parliamentary Select Committee could kick the process off by calling for public feedback on older laws that are either failing to achieve their stated purpose, or are producing serious hardship and harm to society. Several such laws spring to mind, including the Domestic Purposes Benefit, the Child Support Act, and more recently, the anti-smacking law; however, a prime contender for priority review must surely be the DPEP Act repeal that has so seriously damaged the lives of a minority of extremely vulnerable people in society – the intellectually disabled and their families.

http://www.nzcpr.com/weekly237.htm
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July 13, 2010 10:38pm
krazykiwi

@Chicken 8:22. More Prozac and wine for you. It’s working 🙂 As for ‘what can we do’, I say accelerate the arrival of the peak!

@Hurf 8:29. Peak IQ .. LOL. Sadly the enviro-retards you speak of lack the wherewithal to acknowledge their deficit.
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July 13, 2010 10:49pm
Chicken Little

Prozac and wine, Yes sir, I shall start right away 🙂
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July 14, 2010 4:19am
Viking2

No, work to do and keep off the turps or you will finish up like this old codger. Being zapped by the tax gatherers and self righteous for being entrepreneurial.
Sly-grogging ‘to pay for restoring car’
By MARTY SHARPE – The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 14/07/2010

AGE-OLD TRADITION: Edwin Wilson, 80, in his garage, where he has been brewing at least nine types of liquor. He pleaded guilty to six charges.
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Dunedin couch burning leads to arrests Officers shot, dog killed in Christchurch Man jailed for $30,000 Gisborne bank robbery Pair bailed in Kapiti murder case Home brewer pleads guilty to selling spirits Man jailed over boiling water attack Prisoner pleads guilty to killing guard Man clocked at 169kmh Couple set up sting to catch thief Farmer’s last movements mystify family

An 80-year-old widower who admitted selling his homemade liquor in a “sly-grogging” operation was only trying to cover the cost of restoring his vintage car, a court has been told.

Edwin Lowry Wilson was making up to 500 per cent profit on at least nine varieties of spirits he brewed in the garage of his Hastings house.

And fall prey to these willy players.
Chill fails to sway forecasters from warm winter prediction
By BRITTON BROUN – The Dominion Post

New Zealand will have a warmer and drier winter than usual, despite an abnormally chilly month so far, Niwa says.

Overnight temperatures this week plunged into the negatives, cracking windscreens, pipes and leaving

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3915849/Chill-fails-to-sway-forecasters-from-warm-winter-prediction
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July 14, 2010 6:37am
Viking2

Looks what’s coming. BRRRR

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/largec.html?area=4&element=0&mode=UTC
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