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Viking2

No matter whether we are Christian or secular, no matter what race, no matter whether man or woman, we must all unite in the fight for small government, property rights, individual freedom and the free market. If we unite on these objectives we will defeat them.

Yep that’s right as far as it goes.

Homosexual rights, feminism, environmentalism, racism, etc etc
are you saying that people who are homosexual or hold other views don’t have rights?

P.S I am still waiting for your answer.
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July 10, 2010 6:35pm
Kris K

Redbaiter 6:28 pm,

No matter whether we are Christian or secular, no matter what race, no matter whether man or woman, we must all unite in the fight for small government, property rights, individual freedom and the free market. If we unite on these objectives we will defeat them.

Amen to that, Red.

When good ‘men’ do nothing …
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July 10, 2010 6:36pm
Redbaiter

“P.S I am still waiting for your answer.”

Fuck off moron.
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July 10, 2010 6:36pm
Robert Mapplethorpe

THIS is the best encapsulation of the beliefs of Red Russell Baiter.

“Obama tanked the economy on purpose, both as “payback” for 230 years of racial oppression…”
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July 10, 2010 6:37pm
Robert Mapplethorpe

Strange bedfellows, God’S Sock Puppet and the red’s under the bed russell..

It is BECAUSE of good Men that the predations of lassez faire and god were rolled back and true freedom achieved.
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July 10, 2010 6:40pm
Kris K

Viking2 6:35 pm,

Homosexual rights, feminism, environmentalism, racism, etc etc
are you saying that people who are homosexual or hold other views don’t have rights?

I’m pretty certain you know exactly what Red’s saying, V2.

It’s when these same minority interest groups want to force their dogmas, and normalise their perversions on the rest of us that most sane people have a problem.
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July 10, 2010 6:41pm
Pete George

What would you do with the defeated? Send them off to gulags?
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July 10, 2010 6:41pm
Kris K

Oh look!
It’s that queer photographer’s namesake with his variation on pearls of wisdom.

All we need now is for Weedeater to finish its gardening and join us for the circle-jerk to be complete …
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July 10, 2010 6:45pm
Robert Mapplethorpe

How odd to hear god’s sock puppet talk of perversions. Could Anything be MORE perverted than drinking blood?
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July 10, 2010 6:45pm
Robert Mapplethorpe

Kris K (2638) Says:

July 10th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Oh look!
It’s that queer photographer’s namesake with his variation on pearls of wisdom.

Ah yes, the christian dupe – losing the argument, resort to abuse. How typical. They abuse in discussion, they abuse in orphanages and they abuse in schools.

Still, when you look at thier corporate logo, no fucking wonder abuse is so ingrained.
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July 10, 2010 6:50pm
Kris K

Pete George 6:41 pm,

What would you do with the defeated? Send them off to gulags?

Nah, Pete – how about we send them to the outer darkness where they can do some serious teeth nashing?
Most of them will be able to practice for the future eternity which awaits them …

For some reason Liberals and Hell just seem such natural bedfellows.
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July 10, 2010 6:50pm
Redbaiter

“Send them off to gulags?”

Shit you’re dumb Yellowback. How, when I just said we stand for small government and individual freedom could that imply that we would use gulags, those devices that were invented by your totalitarian heroes? You’re just hopelessly stupid, and its no mystery that you would vote yourself into the tyranny our grandfathers and fathers fought against. Just a sick irrational knee jerk moron with never a logical word to say here.
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July 10, 2010 6:51pm
Kris K

Robert Mapplethorpe 6:50 pm,

Ah yes, the christian dupe – losing the argument, resort to abuse.

So you’re saying “Robert Mapplethorpe” wasn’t a queer perverted photographer with a penchant for shoving riding crops up his arse?
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July 10, 2010 6:57pm
Pete George

You don’t think things through very well sometimes Red. You only preach freedom for those who you put in your own pigeonhole. That sounds a bit shitty.

BTW, my father and both my grandfathers are my heroes, they all fought for their country. And mine. I’m proud of them and proud of my country. You know, the country you keep rubbishing.
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July 10, 2010 6:58pm
Redbaiter

“You know, the country you keep rubbishing.”

The country you and your Progressive have made into a pale imitation of what it once was. That it can produce something as odious as you and other revolting Progressives (who must feel inexplicably compelled to hang out here) is enough proof.
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July 10, 2010 7:01pm
Pete George

Kris, are you having trouble putting tomorrow’s sermon together? You don’t seem to have anything Christian to say.
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July 10, 2010 7:02pm
Redbaiter

Forget the loser Kris. He’s only here to run interference for his glorious leaders. They probably pay the lickspittle’s internet connection and give him a bottle of Vodka a week to do it.
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July 10, 2010 7:09pm
Kris K

Pete George 7:02 pm,

Kris, are you having trouble putting tomorrow’s sermon together? You don’t seem to have anything Christian to say.

There’s no point casting pearls before swine, Pete:

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

And that’s a direct quote of Christ Himself.
… and as you were talking about “heroes”, Pete, well He’s mine.

How’s that for a nice succinct sermon?
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July 10, 2010 7:16pm
Pete George

“Make completely groundless false allegations in the hope that eventually the mud will stick. ”

You have answered that yet, you don’t have the guts to say it directly, you just keep demonstrating it.

Kris, it might mean something if you actually followed his example.
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July 10, 2010 7:16pm
Redbaiter

Dumb again Yellowback. Its not groundless. Your insincerity sticks out like dog’s balls.
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July 10, 2010 7:18pm
Viking2

The bottle must be getting a thrashing. He’s turned back to his usual form of intelligent, intellectual. inspiring prose.
Redbaiter I mean.

You can call me all the names you want but that won’t change the fact that you refuse to be responsible for your arguments nor does it answer the question. Indeed it implies a certain dishonesty.
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July 10, 2010 7:25pm
Kris K

Pete George 7:16 pm,

Kris, it might mean something if you actually followed his example.

How exactly is accurately applying Christ’s own words to ‘individuals’ like you NOT following His example?!

Not only are your comprehension skills seriously lacking, Pete, but you’re the number one victim of your own delusions.

If you took the time to read the Bible, Pete, you would come to the realisation that Christ had little time for fools and hypocrites – the verse above being a case in point.
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July 10, 2010 7:30pm
Viking2

Found at http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/?p=222 and outed.

Redbaiter says:
July 10, 2010 at 7:25 am

Didn’t know you read Kiwiblog KG. Thought you were far more discerning 😀

So as the most prolific blogger on Kiwiblog here he is saying we should be more discerning. Oh Dear.
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July 10, 2010 7:30pm
Pete George

you would come to the realisation that Christ had little time for fools and hypocrites

You are fooling yourself if you don’t see your own hypocrisy.

Viking, that’s just RedShittingInNest all over.
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July 10, 2010 7:36pm
Redbaiter

“You are fooling yourself if you don’t see your own hypocrisy.”

Oh gawd, it never ends. You never have anything but false allegations of hypocrisy. Like a fucking endless cassette. Drone drone drone. Idiot.
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July 10, 2010 7:42pm
Kris K

Redbaiter 7:09 pm,

Forget the loser Kris. He’s only here to run interference for his glorious leaders.

You’re quite right, Red – trying to reason with Mr George is BEYOND a waste of time.

… and it amuses me no end when people like him even pretend to know anything about the person of Christ.

You show them the truth and they end up just echoing back the same accusations. They can’t even be original.
Time to cut off the oxygen, methinks.

[Night all]
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July 10, 2010 7:48pm
Hurf Durf

Good to see Puke Hansen have a tantrum and quit early in the morning, though not without laying some choice non-truths that so perfectly lay out his deluded, anti-Western “thinking.”
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July 10, 2010 7:58pm
Pete George

Time to cut off the oxygen, methinks.

How? Crucifixion?

Oh gawd, it never ends. You never have anything but false allegations of hypocrisy. Like a fucking endless cassette. Drone drone drone. Idiot.

Oh gawd, it never ends. You never have anything but false allegations of hypocrisy. Like a fucking endless cassette. Drone drone drone. Classic Redbaiter.
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July 10, 2010 8:23pm
big bruv

Not sure what is worse, Phools endless drivel or Redbaiter working his way to 20,000 posts full of abuse and the blind rage that only a senile old man can summon up.
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July 10, 2010 9:44pm
Boloni

Isn’t there anything interesting to tallk about
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July 10, 2010 10:03pm
Luc Hansen

Late night thoughts after watching the ABs thrashing the Boks…

Hurf, you pimply little faceless piece of shit, can’t front up when invited…

I went woodcutting with my beloved chainsaw for the family fire, then caught a nap (by then, awake for over 20 hours: I work)

I’m as anti-western as you are anti-clearasil…

your credibility here is on the same level as that other idiot RB…

Also…

It passed me by at the time but evidently the SA govt took until 2007 to confiscate the first land off a white farmer…

wtf took them so long and why aren’t they going hard out at reclaiming their land?…

harden up guys, is my advice…

And…

Kris K is an evil person pretending to be the opposite…

no chance…

I’ve got the c**t sussed…

white suprecamist, deluded, cowardly, greedy, acquisitive, misogynist, wife-oppressor…

you get the drift…

Anyone offended by omission, just ask…

Your personalised spray awaits…
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July 10, 2010 10:06pm
Boloni

Luc Thats much better.
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July 10, 2010 10:10pm
Luc Hansen

merci, bon ami..
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July 10, 2010 10:13pm
krazykiwi

A new and spectacular argument for the alarmists:

Thousands of plant species, threatened with habitat loss and climate change, may become extinct before scientists can discover them, according to a three American and British researchers.

Translation: Keep our research funds flowing. Please. We beg you.
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July 10, 2010 10:25pm
Hurf Durf

I’m as anti-western as you are anti-clearasil…

Ah, virulently, then.

wtf took them so long and why aren’t they going hard out at reclaiming their land?…

And putting himself on the side of Mugarbage now. Tell me, any other tyrants you want to admit admirance for? Bashar Assad, perhaps?
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July 10, 2010 10:53pm
Luc Hansen

KK

I forget the figures but its quite astounding the projected number of species yet to be discovered. the fact is that species migrate to combat climate change, no matter the cause, but this current temp increase is so rapid that it is unlikely many can adapt fast enough, so will become extinct.

Your continual and ignorant besmirching our best scientists simply indicates your own low IQ.

Hurf

Admit it, Clearasil is your best friend!

So what is tyrannical about a democratically elected (recognised as fair and free) government chucking white colonisers off stolen land? (Just as Palestinians will one day do to their European invaders)

String a sentence together for once. Be coherent (look it up).
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July 10, 2010 11:02pm
reid

Luc if someone suggested one should tell their kids that AGW was killing Santa because it would melt the ice caps, what would you say?
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July 10, 2010 11:07pm
Hurf Durf

Them white colonisers, who have tended the land for generations and know what they’re doing, don’t deserve a stake in their own country, why? Because they’re white? You don’t like them for their skin colour? Whatever happened to the Rainbow Nation, Luc?

This matches heavily with your attitude towards Israeli Jews, who you seem to resent because they are European. No hate for the Arab or African Jews who fled to Israel for their own safety and have been successfully reintegrated into the country. What will happen to them, Luc, or didn’t you consider that when you were dreaming up the genocide of Israel at the hands of Hamas?

Tell me, Luc, why do you hate white people?
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July 10, 2010 11:17pm
krazykiwi

Luc, you support the idea that the unknown is threatened by the unproven and apparently I’m the guy with the low IQ?

Credit where credit is due though, you have a vivid imagination. If your world view wasn’t screwed up I’d suggest you attempt children’s books.

But it is, so I won’t.
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July 10, 2010 11:25pm
Redbaiter

“So what is tyrannical about a democratically elected (recognised as fair and free) government chucking white colonisers off stolen land? ”

Are leftists becoming more and more deranged lately or what? I think they’re beginning to understand the game is up and its driving them to a new level of desperate insanity.

“Redbaiter working his way to 20,000 posts full of abuse and the blind rage that only a senile old man can summon up.”

You’re another useless old navel gazing moaning prick like Viking, full of false allegations and irrational drivel. You stand for nothing and do nought but bitch about outcomes that are really a result of your own flaccid inability to confront the left on any kind of intellectual or strategic level. A walking talking example of the old aphorism. “If you don’t fight you lose”.

NZ has been destroyed by the likes of Pete George and Luc Hansen, but it was spineless stand for nothing politically confused fuckwits like you Bruv who enabled them.
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July 10, 2010 11:26pm
Sonny Blount

# krazykiwi (5860) Says:
July 10th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

A new and spectacular argument for the alarmists:

Thousands of plant species, threatened with habitat loss and climate change, may become extinct before scientists can discover them, according to a three American and British researchers.

Translation: Keep our research funds flowing. Please. We beg you.

99% of species are going extinct. This is the only fact in regards to biodiversity.
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July 10, 2010 11:44pm
Sonny Blount

I went woodcutting with my beloved chainsaw for the family fire

Another low class AGW hypocrite. Not the only thing the Groper has in common with Al Gore.
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July 10, 2010 11:46pm
Hurf Durf

Fires are also an awfully inefficient method of home heating and give off a dispropotionate amount of co2.

Luc’s commitment to The Cause disappoints me.
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July 11, 2010 12:03am
Redbaiter

“Luc’s commitment to The Cause disappoints me.”

Cutting down CO2 absorbent trees with a hydrocarbon powered piece of machinery to feed a greenhouse gas producing wasteful and inefficient heating system. And he writes here as if he cares about the environment, global warming and peak oil.

You’re right Hurf, its utterly disgraceful, but you forget the maxim that leftist elitists use to deflect allegations of hypocrisy-

“Do as I say not as I do.”

The nomenklatura*

*The system of patronage to senior and privileged positions in the bureaucracy of the Soviet Union and some other Communist states, controlled by committees at various levels of the Communist Party.
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July 11, 2010 2:10am
starboard

Philwhore ( I know you still read KB )…latest poll results…

The latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows support for John Key’s National-led Government has strengthened to 58.5% (up 3%), comprising National Party 53% (up 2.5%), Maori Party 3% (unchanged), ACT NZ 2% (up 1%) and United Future 0.5% (down 0.5%).

ACT now at 2% and climbing !! Ha..stick that in ya bong and toke on it …
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July 11, 2010 5:00am
Pete George

“Make completely groundless false allegations in the hope that eventually the mud will stick. ”
– you haven’t answered that yet, but you keep demonstrating it.

Redbaiter at 11:26 pm: NZ has been destroyed by the likes of Pete George and Luc Hansen, but it was spineless stand for nothing politically confused fuckwits like you Bruv who enabled them.

You are the recidivist spineless coward. NZ hasn’t been destroyed, my country is doing well enough comparatively (albeit always with problems to deal with like any country).

Who wants all MPs removed, who wants to see journalists swing from lampposts, who keeps trying to drum up revolution, wants to see blood in the streets? Who wants to “defeat” all “leftists” – by your implications that is most New Zealanders? Who wants to return things to “the good old days”, you have suggested that 1901, 1860 and 1740 sound good to you.

With all your well worn rhetoric you have a major hole in your bucket – you never offer any solutions, no realistic way of reaching Redutopia. All you do is try to talk others up to do your dirty work.

It is obvious why you usually only answer with abuse, why you avoid fronting up with any substance – beyond slogans and exaggerations you don’t have any coherent answers. When you do try to provide any reason you just splutter and stumble, realise your weakness and revert to abuse to try and mask it.

You could get back to research and find out how to come up with workable solutions. You could research why people who try to paint “them and us”, “freedom fighters versus the enemy” and other simplistic rubbish will end up with many more “thems” and “enemies” than anything.

Or you could carry on appealing to those who buy into empty slogans, and those who like to bark from behind a bully. And keep on whimpering like a pup that shits in it’s kennel and blames everyone else for the stink.

You seem to enjoy playing the perpetual victim of “lefties” and the MSM. Poor you.
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July 11, 2010 7:12am
Redbaiter

You know Yellowback, ever since you were embarrassed into abandoning your preferred style of sly falsely predicated questions, you seem to have become more and more deranged with each post. You can’t read, you can’t comprehend, and you can’t offer anything but an endless diatribe of baseless accusations and false allegations. All underpinned by a complete cluelessness regarding any core point under discussion.

Its why you’re seduced by left wing politics of course. Its a package that appeals to the mentally weak and those who rely jackal like upon the production of their more intelligent and aware fellow citizens, and who slaver in gratitude for the sustenance we provide but secretly hate us at the same time they depend, and want to pull us down.

It has taken me many years of posting her to get to 10,000, but you’re over half way towards that total in a year or two. Such a frantic rate of posting signifies an almost insane obsession especially given that the purpose of almost everyone of those posts has been to run interference on any discussion that insults or threatens the political supremacy of the left.

Don’t presume to lecture me Yellowback. You frequently demonstrate that you are a coward and a liar, but most of all you’re a nutter. Don’t need lectures from whiney little commies who should be in padded cells rather than insanely snapping away on Kiwiblog at the hand that feeds them.

Like all nutters, you’re an obsessive presumptuous bore and none more so when you indulge in your pissant self focussed complaint sessions encompassing every little left wing PC concept out there. If you even had half a brain, you’d know nothing a deranged and obsessive fuckwit like you says is ever going to change anything I do.
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July 11, 2010 8:28am
Pete George

If you even had half a brain, you’d know nothing a deranged and obsessive fuckwit like you says is ever going to change anything I do.

Keep up the good work 🙂
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