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June 8, 2010 8:06am by David Farrar

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Johnboy

Hell phool you are starting to lose it man.

No way for the editor and CEO of a news aggregator to operate.

Take another toke and calm down.

Paula’s troops are in your street.

Knock on the door ain’t far away………eh?
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June 8, 2010 5:37pm
Yvette

Oops! Sorry – beaten to the gun – arrow, bow – or something …
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June 8, 2010 5:38pm
Johnboy

Shit is that name for real Yvette?

I hope Chuck Swift stays behind his CEO’s desk and never sails into the rough Antarctic waters. 🙂
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June 8, 2010 5:40pm
grumpyoldhori

There seems to be a understanding among those who defend Israel right or wrong that the activists set out to slaughter the Israelis boarding their ship in international waters.
One has to ask, pieces of fucking wood, christ if I had wanted to arrange the slaughter of those commandoes I would have used lengths of steel water pipe with seventeen inch knifes attached to ambush them in the corridors.

Or, if you had wanted to make sure the Israelis put a couple of Harpoon missiles into the ship, get some small arms on board to wipe out the first wave of commandoes.
The IDF could be relied upon to kill a holocaust survivor in that case.
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June 8, 2010 5:41pm
Yvette

“Shit is that name for real Yvette?”

Who? – Chuck Swift?
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June 8, 2010 5:44pm
krazykiwi

why don’t you stick yr head up yr arse and whistle fucken dixie..
you vile pece of racist/bigoted-shit..
kk..’feel free to’ fuck off..get fucked..stick it up yr arse..!

Calm down phil. The ‘internet at your home’ question will keep (and keep coming back at ya!), but would like to know about the L’s. It’s important. Thanks.
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June 8, 2010 5:45pm
Johnboy

That one too.
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June 8, 2010 5:46pm
Yvette

This is the first time I have heard of the bow and arrows.
Did it come up in the trial, and if not, why is Sea Shepherd Society drawing attention to it now?
Does it support Bethune? Don’t think so.
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June 8, 2010 5:47pm
Johnboy

I thought you would have used a mere grumpy.
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June 8, 2010 5:48pm
RightNow

Haha grumpyoldhori, whatever those activists were thinking by attacking the IDF with clubs and pipes, they ain’t thinking it now. If they wanted to be alive they would be. If they wanted to get aid to Gaza they would have. They wanted to be martyrs and they got what they wanted end of story.
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June 8, 2010 6:30pm
RightNow

I love this story (well, the pictures anyway) http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/3787362/Too-hot-banker-in-fresh-strife
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June 8, 2010 6:33pm
philu

hmmm..!!

at the same time….we have the shock/horror ‘scandal’ of browns’ credit card..

..and a puff-piece from banks..talking of his alcoholic mum ..

..does anyone else smell a boag…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 6:39pm
Johnboy

Hahaha. Now this genuinely sad. Hahaha.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/3787149/Girlfriend-hit-by-lightning-before-proposal
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June 8, 2010 6:40pm
grumpyoldhori

Israel nuking Iran, it seems the Israelis believe that no matter what happens the USA will/can protect them.
So Israel nukes Iran, France, Russia or China believing Israel has turned mad dog nukes Israel taking out all their nuclear option.
Who believes the yanks would then get into a city swapping fight with any of the above countries ?
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June 8, 2010 6:56pm
reid

That anti-Semitism is on the rise globally is beyond question.

And how do you explain that, Kris?

Could it be a rising perception that Israel often behaves like a cheap, ruthless street thug against soft and squishy civilian targets, or is something else going on?
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June 8, 2010 7:00pm
grumpyoldhori

RightNow that is the amusing part, Turkey does have nukes available and as much as the IDF beats it’s chest they are no match for the Turks.

And no, you cannot compare the Egyptian or Syrian militaries to the Turks.
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June 8, 2010 7:03pm
Johnboy

You should stick to discussing spears and clubs grumpy instead of nuclear strategy, it suits your whakapapa better.
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June 8, 2010 7:05pm
philu

i have decided to stop cursing out the morons..

(fun tho’ it is..)

i will slay them with facts/logic/humor..

this new regime starts now…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 7:08pm
Manolo

Whoar, you are advised to curse less and pay more attention to the next batch in the kitchen.
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June 8, 2010 7:10pm
Viking2

Anyone see the All Whites at training. No of course you couldn’t. They were clouded in by the smoke from the coal fires that cook tea for all those living in Soweto.
Now why don’t we send that dopey funny eyed South Islander by the name of Nicolas over to sort this out. I mean its just not on for these poor bastards to have to cook their tea on coal fires with all the co2 they produce.
Really everyday they do this and the world CO2 emissions are on the rise, especially in South Africa. Of course we could have an ETS to help them out. well, we could supply them with, natural gas, electricity, firewood even, just so’s they wouldn’t have to fire up the coal barbies.

How about it Johnkey. Send Nicolas over instead of going to the soccer yourself. Your trip’s a contiki tour for photo ops anyway.
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June 8, 2010 7:11pm
philu

hmmm..!..i do so love the smell of a fresh batch of stories on http://whoar.co.nz/ …

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 7:13pm
Johnboy

“this new regime starts now”

Lost one campaign so will try a new assault.
Too late magpie.
Paula is at your front gate……..eh?
Know how Hitler felt cowering in the bunker……..eh..?
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June 8, 2010 7:14pm
Manolo

Viking, how do you dare to mock Nick? He’s well intentioned, he wants us to lead the world, to make us suffer, to sacrifice us at the altar of Gaia by taxing us more while his boss Key smiles and waves to the world audience.

Nick Smith is a sane, healthy man, yeah right. Winner of the Tui ad of the decade.
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June 8, 2010 7:17pm
dad4justice

Nick Smith has coal dust inside his orrible head.
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June 8, 2010 7:19pm
big bruv

“kk..’feel free to’ fuck off..get fucked..stick it up yr arse..!”

Is this acceptable DPF?
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June 8, 2010 7:21pm
Johnboy

At least 20 demerits I would have thought BB.

I mean look what some get for totally innocuous true comments.

Double standards/two sets of rules!

http://clintheine.blogspot.com/
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June 8, 2010 7:24pm
philu

still smarting from yr demerits there..eh..?

..large-sibling..?

and i think if you look back…

..there is a smidgen of provocation..

but you are right..

..that is me sinking to yr level…

..which is why i am going on the potty-mouth wagon…

both of the k.k’s … and the others…make their own ‘cases’…

…i don’t need to point it out..

..readers can see judge them/their words… for themselves…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 7:27pm
Johnboy

Spoken like a true CEO of a multi-national news agency magpie.

Just try to stop shittin in the nest so much or it will be the alphachlorolose for you…eh?

Fuck here’s Paula… flapflapflap flapflap….fuck that was close.
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June 8, 2010 7:34pm
philu

is there a hone st in new zealand…?

‘cos that spells ‘honest’…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 7:35pm
Johnboy

Christ knows how I got the Heine was attempting to link to the manifestly unjust 20 pointer on the new greenie tart last night.

Dickhead. 🙂
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June 8, 2010 7:37pm
RKBee

philu (8725) Says:

Phil @7:08 pm
i have decided to stop cursing out the morons..

(fun tho’ it is..)

i will slay them with facts/logic/humor..

this new regime starts now…

dribble and bullshit … there’s no way you can slay with facts/logic/humor..

Nick Smith is a insane, unhealthy man then Manolo.. gotcha..
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June 8, 2010 7:38pm
philu

we shall see…

..rk bee…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 7:42pm
Viking2

Enjoy this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQ1O7tBEV8
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June 8, 2010 7:46pm
Inventory2

7.42pm and Phil’s still at the library blogging. I can’t help but wonder where Phil jnr is; not home alone, I hope.

Then again, Phil might just have been bullshitting about not having an internet connection at home …
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June 8, 2010 7:49pm
Johnboy

And to have a phil jnr you would have to have found a women who would…..who would….nah,….not possible… I mean surely NO woman would… yuh know…..”Do it” with magpie. YECCCCH!

magpie lives a lie.
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June 8, 2010 7:57pm
Pete George

I didn’t enjoy it Viking. The Middle East is a bloody sad case for many people on all sides (those that aren’t killed), I don’t see it as a joking matter.
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June 8, 2010 7:58pm
Viking2

http://crusader-rabbit.blogspot.com/2010/06/reuters-lying-scumbags-again.html
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June 8, 2010 7:58pm
Viking2

bohoo how sad. Its been going on for 3000 years now and nothings changed except the media and lies as above.
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June 8, 2010 8:00pm
Pete George

Something has changed – now there are people sitting safe on the other side of the world who seem to think other people’s crappy situations can be laughed at.
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June 8, 2010 8:04pm
big bruv

Johnboy

Have you not seen some of those Green shelia’s?
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June 8, 2010 8:05pm
Johnboy

I saw that earlier on CR Viking. I’m no quack but that looks a bit like a stab wound in the Israeli’s abdomen just above the blood soaked part of his waistband. Maybe matching the disappearing knife in the scumbags hand.

If he had been my mate I would be happy to shoot his attacker in the head front or back, coming or going, double tap of course.
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June 8, 2010 8:09pm
Johnboy

“Johnboy

Have you not seen some of those Green shelia’s?”

Yup. Should I change my name to Chuck Swift?
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June 8, 2010 8:11pm
philu

an adonis are you..?…large sibling..?

got a pic..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 8:13pm
Hurf Durf

Some scrunt called Helen (no, not Clark) jumped from her job because of her moronic comments re Israelis. Now if we could just push off every other anti-Israeli hack posing as unbiased arbiters. Jeremy al-Bowen of the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation is someone I’d like to see go next.
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June 8, 2010 8:13pm
big bruv

“an adonis are you..?…large sibling..?”

Damn right!
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June 8, 2010 8:17pm
Johnboy

Tell us of your (once) woman magpie.

Was she beautiful or were you both too stoned to notice…eh?

Quick roll in the smelly bed and never saw her again till she rang you with the news of your fatherhood…was it ..?

Picked up the tab since then did you (or we did) never had another woman I suspect.

Women like a nice comfy nest……all the home comforts….eh?

The keyboards no substitute for a real life……?

Still its all you have magpie.
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June 8, 2010 8:24pm
philu

ahem..!..that’s not what i’ve heard…large sibling…

say no more..!

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 8:29pm
philu

‘.the moon came out from behind the clouds…..

..just as we laid back onto the bed….

…her taut body gleamed as she rose to meet me…”

whoar…!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 8, 2010 8:35pm
big bruv

You heard nothing Phool…

Face it, some of us are born gorgeous and others are born looking like the back end of a bus.

Never mind Phool, there is somebody out there who wants a drug fucked wreck for a partner.
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June 8, 2010 8:41pm
Johnboy

…her taut body gleamed as she rose to meet me…”

(with apologies to Barbara Cartland)

So did you name the child Ure or Delahunty then magpie?
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June 8, 2010 8:44pm
Hurf Durf

The relationship isn’t consummated until they share needles.
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June 8, 2010 8:46pm
Angus

“Never mind Phool, there is somebody out there who wants a drug fucked wreck for a partner.”

He has a partner thank you very much. Multiple partners, in fact. . . people on this blog who give him the attention he so desperately seeks. Go figure. Some people never fucken learn.
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June 8, 2010 8:48pm
Johnboy

Pull your head in Angus. On a boring night like this who else can us old whores turn a trick with?
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June 8, 2010 8:58pm
Redbaiter

Angus is quite correct. The guy he’s talking about comes here because he’s suffering from a mental disease. That disease is Narcissistic Personality Disorder. (NPD) Its at the root of everything he ever does. He comes here to feed his illness. If he was ignored, he’d go somewhere else. You guys might think you’re putting him down, but that is not the way it works with this particular mental disease. He sees every little bit of personal recognition, even if it is a scathing insult, as a victory. It all just makes GD uninteresting and unreadable.
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June 8, 2010 9:22pm
Johnboy

“It all just makes GD uninteresting and unreadable.”

Yeah you are right Red. Its just that there is fuck all on TV tonight and magpie was available as always.

We will just have to learn to leave him alone and let the Christians reclaim the chosen land that is GD. 🙂
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June 8, 2010 9:27pm
reid

reid: Tell us, do you guys ever think that maybe if you’d been less ideological and more pragmatic, that it might not have been a superneaty idea after all, to rule out a coalition with the next govt?

Toad: No, not with the Nats at the last election. There were too many points of policy difference, and the Nats were sufficiently strong electorally, and the Greens sufficiently weak electorally, that the Greens would have been trampled underfoot and probably consigned to electoral oblivion.

From yesterday.

Toad, why are the Greens in politics? Apparently, it’s the art of the possible. But only if you choose to play.
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June 8, 2010 9:36pm
MikeNZ

# Pete George (4952) Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

Mike, what do you think the chances are of Israel getting provoked into letting loose with a nuke?

Pete I would if I had no brain or had it in for Israel.

They have been the modicum of restraint and responsibility as one expects compared to the countries around them.
However should it be an existential situation, don’t be in the top 5 cities of the neighbouring countries if they have a hand in it.
Why else is the OIC pushing in the background on the NPT?
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June 8, 2010 10:00pm
MikeNZ

I can see people enjoying that video Viking,
I am sure there are such from both sides.
Satire is so true sometimes isn’t it?
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June 8, 2010 10:02pm
RightNow

if only phlu actually ran a blog site instead of a news aggregator site, he’d have heaps of traffic
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June 8, 2010 10:10pm
reid

This is peripheral to the issue I raised above, but I just heard on Radio Left Wing that apparently, some people in South Africa believe that ingesting the brains of a particular native vulture species, it gives them clairvoyant powers which people were using the place bets on the result of the World Cup, which is resulting in the decimation of the species and I was wondering what the Green Party’s policy was on that?
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June 8, 2010 10:18pm
MikeNZ

The bottom line is ordinary people understand the need for a blockade and that it is legal.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/06/02/2010-06-02_israel_obeyed_international_law_legally_the_gaza_flotilla_conflict_is_an_openand.html

Whilst the media have pushed the anti israel thing, ordinary people are getting it.
http://svt.se/2.35188/1.2025999/an_act_of_hatred_and_provocation?lid=puff_2026005&lpos=extra_0
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/03/AR2010060304287.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Now this might qualify as a target Pete
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/what-is-assad-hiding-in-his-backyard-1.292935

As LUC keeps telling us everyone is human
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3898567,00.html
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June 8, 2010 10:29pm
reid

It’s just the bullet holes, Mike.

That seems to be a bit of a problem.
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June 8, 2010 10:32pm
krazykiwi

It’s just the bullet holes, Mike. That seems to be a bit of a problem.

They’re a problem .. and the steel bars and knives aren’t? And faced with these non-problems you wouldn’t use a gun? C’mon reid. You’re smarter than that.
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June 8, 2010 10:57pm
krazykiwi

North Korea border guards shoot dead three in China

China has lodged a formal complaint with North Korea after one of the North’s border guards shot and killed three people and wounded a fourth on the countries’ border in north-eastern China last week.

Beijing has refused to condemn North Korea over the sinking of a South Korean warship last March, but said that it had complained to Pyongyang over the shootings.

“On the morning of June 4, some residents of Dandong, in Liaoning province, were shot by a DPRK [North Korean] border guard on suspicion of crossing the border for trade activities, leaving three dead and one injured,” a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said.

Friendly lot those North Koreans. Torpedo their enemies and gun down their friends. I wonder which former NZ PM will be asked to lead the UN investigation? Oh, it’s not Israel.. there will be no UN investigation.
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June 8, 2010 11:22pm
krazykiwi

Children raised by lesbians ‘have fewer behavioural problems’

Children raised by lesbian parents develop into psychologically sound adolescents and have fewer behavioural problems than their peers, a long-running study has found.
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Sounds like a pretty clear result.. until one finds out the lesbian women were ‘committed parents/carers, generally older than control group mums and many had attended parenting classes, and they were involved in the education of their kids. Hmmm. Those traits usually produce reasonable kids.

So were the control parents groups hand-picked such that other factors such as evidence of commitment to parenting, parental training, involvement in education, comparable age, comparable socio-economic and comparable ethnicity were all also evidenced?

I do wonder about this, in light of research that shows that kids suffer increasing levels of accidental and deliberate death as the family model moves away from one comprised of biological father and mother.
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June 8, 2010 11:55pm
reid

and the steel bars and knives aren’t? And faced with these non-problems you wouldn’t use a gun?

If I was a highly trained, fit-as assault trooper then going up against the pussies I expected to be up against, with proper instructions, no, I wouldn’t have used my weapon, kk.

Unfortunately, either I didn’t have proper instructions, or I was poorly trained. There doesn’t seem to be a third alternative.
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June 8, 2010 11:56pm
krazykiwi

So reid, if you didn’t have proper instructions (eg IDF pre-mission briefing indicated the peace activists would be armed with colourful language and wooden spoons) and you arrived on-deck to a torrent of steel rods and knives.. you’d just leave your weapon holstered, and take your punishment like a man?
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June 9, 2010 12:05am
reid

FFS kk, get this. IT WAS ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE that the mission would have turned out to be as hostile as it actually did.

As I said three days ago, you’d have to be an A-Grade-Viliage-Idiot military planner to have NOT predicted this.

Now, given that Israel is perceived diplomatically to be in the rather-beleaguered camp vis-a-vis military aggression against civilians, possibly though no fault of its own, WOULDN’T YOU THINK IT WOULD MAKE FUCKING LOTS OF SENSE FOR THE MILITARY PLANNERS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS ASPECT.

But they didn’t did they
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June 9, 2010 12:14am
krazykiwi

Shhhhh, you’ll wake the kids!

Perhaps you’re right.. the military planners could have given it more thought. Having 400 IDF folks arrive on-deck within 60 seconds would have allowed more conventional force to stop the flurry of steel bars and knives. But I’m guessing that the world’s terror apologists would have decried that show of force just as loudly, but not as convincingly on account of the lack of dead ‘peace’ activists.

Edit: Did you get serious hail over your way today? Our place looks across the harbour towards EB, and it sure looked like it on several occasions!
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June 9, 2010 12:20am
Viking2

Gotcha rival’s sting harpoons host

They were properly conned. Normal business everyday.

Williams said he asked to speak to John Key, who was in TVNZ’s offices and the Prime Minister obliged.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10650598
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June 9, 2010 7:14am
Pete George

TVNZ and TV3 leave themselves wide open to being duped. They are quick to broadcast trivial stories, they often don’t seem to bother with in depth research, and they like to interview all sorts of odds and sods that add nothing to stories.

Henry: “You couldn’t have a decent argument with him because he didn’t have a reasoned, thought-out argument himself so there was nothing you could really counter, there was no opportunity for intellectual debate.”

They attempt intellectual debate on sound clip TV?

When selecting interviewees TVNZ could try a reasoned, thought-out selection process.
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