General Debate 13 May 2010

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mickysavage

Morning DPF

Did you really use the OIA to try and find out the identities of kiwis who had asked for information from the Government?
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May 13, 2010 9:05am
MikeNZ

Mickey
The left have been doing that for years to villify and attack people who don’t think like them.
Look at America and proposition *, they got the names of the supporters to attack their places of employment and homes.
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May 13, 2010 9:15am
peterwn

John Key and co were on the receiving end of a few surprises this morning.

1. See:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/3689448/Ailing-elderly-couple-left-to-fend-for-themselves

They had a home care allowance cancelled following a telephone ‘interview’ by a DHB official.

I doubt this is the sort of cost saving that Tony Ryall had in mind. Presumably if they moved to a rest home they would be entitled to some allowance anyway. This is the same DHB where you pay $15 for a prescription from its hospital or a specialist, but the repeats written by the patient’s assigned GP are $3 each.

There is also the potential of buck passing with this sort of thing between Health and Welfare – just like the way terminally ill people were carted from one parish to the other in a grotesque game of musical chairs as parishes tried to avoid pauper burial costs.

2. See:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/3689492/Self-employed-caught-in-Monty-Python-tax-trap

“Self-employed caught in ‘Monty Python’ tax trap”

IRD warned that IR3 taxpayers may be asked for earnings evidence when submitting a claim for charitable donation rebates. IRD seemed to be too chicken to say ‘don’t bother sending in your claim unless you are already sending in your IR3.

Not wanting to be left with hanging ends, IRD then said, get your IR3 in within 3 weeks, or lose your claim – presumably they just wanted to throw them and the receipts into the rubbish bin. Now it has backfired in their faces and this operation will probably cost them more money than the ‘leakage’ because people claimed charity rebates not covered by taxable earnings.

This is something that impacts right on National’s party faithful and therefore is something of concern to the political side of the Party. The faithful do not go out door knocking, putting up hoardings, giving money, driving people to the polls etc only to be done one in the eye by a Government Department under the control of the party they support.

This shows the totally unsatisfactory situation of National having a Minister who is not part of its party.
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May 13, 2010 9:29am
nickb

Story:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10644555

I have serious concerns about the Treaty process, like many others on here. But does Key’s backdown over Urewera make anyone else dislike him almost as much as if he had handed over to Tuhoe in the first place?

Why didn’t he come out at the start of negotiations and say it was not on the table, instead of performing a dishonest backdown in the face of public opinion? Merely makes him look flaky and untrustworthy.

Another example that our weak leader is just a windsock in the winds of public opinion. What a gutless government this is.
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May 13, 2010 9:30am
wreck1080

Don’t talk to me about the IRD.

Their services are shocking. Every time I called them for the last month, the wait time was 45 minutes +.

The 2009/2010 tax year ended on 31 March 2010. You’d think these clowns would have their online IR3 returns activated on the 1st April right?

No, it took these buffoons until 10 May 2010 to get their online IR3 working — 3 days after the 3rd provisional due date.

My idea, was to complete my IR3 before 7/5, so then I’d have a final figure for the 3rd provisional payment. Well, I hadn’t counted on the IRD systems being far behind.

If the IRD had a y2k project, they’d finish it 1 year past the due date.
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May 13, 2010 9:35am
Murray

We’ll leave elerdly people who survived the depression and WWII to fend for themselves (they were getting an entire 1 hour/week help) and we’ll still pay to let the convicted armed offender phil u choose to sit on his fucking ass?

Whats wrong with this picture.

Stand by for phil to lauch into a fact deficient personal attack that in no way addresses the issue.
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May 13, 2010 9:40am
Manolo

“Merely makes him look flaky and untrustworthy.”

Merely? Neville Key is flaky and untrustworthy.
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May 13, 2010 9:42am
MikeG

The way the IRD has treated IR3 taxpayers who lodged IR526 (charity donations) is certainly a bit odd. The letter that I got stated that if the IR3 is received after 22/05/2010 then you have to contact them and it will be re-assessed. Why do you have to contact them, can’t them system work it out and why the 22 May deadline? Odd.

The good news is that I filed my IR3 online on Monday night and yesterday my IR526 was processed – so not much of a delay.
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May 13, 2010 9:44am
Kris K

MikeNZ 9:15 am,

Mickey
The left have been doing that for years to villify and attack people who don’t think like them.
Look at America and proposition *, they got the names of the supporters to attack their places of employment and homes.

Whoever said it’s not a battle for the hearts and minds (and souls?) of individuals was lying.
And let’s be clear, this is a battle to the death!
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May 13, 2010 9:48am
eszett

# MikeNZ (1753) Says:
May 13th, 2010 at 9:15 am

Mickey
The left have been doing that for years to villify and attack people who don’t think like them.
Look at America and proposition *, they got the names of the supporters to attack their places of employment and homes.

What sort of argument is that, Mike? Because they (and surely no just the left) are doing it in the US, it’s okay to start doing that here?
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May 13, 2010 9:51am
side show bob

Why the surprise the IRD is in such a mess the whole tax system is screwed. But I guess it’s meant to be that way. God forbid the ordinary peasant understand it, think of the ramifications. In simpler system one would know their liability’s while earning the money. In a simpler system one would pay their tax after the money is earned not a fucking year ahead.In a simpler system many of the shiny arsed drongos employed by the IRD would actually have to find a job that produces something. But of course the government prefers complicated because one must be fair, mustn’t they
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May 13, 2010 9:55am
trout

The left are up early this morning.
Re home help cutbacks and telephone interviews this was a labour Govt. initiative.
Re Key’s refusal to hand over the Urewera National Park, the decison was made at the correct stage in proceedings. Negotiations had taken place; the Govt negotiators were to report to Cabinet but Tuhoe were about to prempt (at a major hui) a cabinet decision by claiming that a transfer of ownership would take place. This was presumptuous; they were using the media to effect a fait accompli. Key cut them off at the pass, On one hand you criticize John key for being indecisive; yet when he is decisive you rubbish hime for being dictatorial. Is this mindless criticism going to go on for 12 years? (the length of time Labour will be out of Govt.) – what a pain.
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May 13, 2010 9:57am
Inventory2

We have a question for Phil Goff over GST on fruit and veg

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/05/question-for-phil.html
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May 13, 2010 10:03am
Pauleastbay

Peterwn

Seriously what is one hour a week achieving for that couple, it certainly wouldn’t get the bathroom cleaned or the floor waxed. Something smells about that story, they reek of life long labour supporters.

There no mention of what that one hour was used for

If thats the best the press can do to throw a bit of shit at the government its sad.

Secondly, where are this couples family? Why does everyone have to rely on the government,? my parents are elderly, look after themselves and if something particuarly needs done,FAMILY help, NEIGHBOURS help, its called being a human being.
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May 13, 2010 10:11am
philu

are you ‘arranging your affairs’….to ‘qualify’ for working-for-families-welfare…there…muzza..?

y’know..!..like bloody-hands-bob..the rich dairy farmer does..?..(trust-funds/offspring as ‘income-earners’..eh..?..nudge..!..nudge..!..)

and like so many of the sole-parent/benificiary-bashers who lurk in these parts do..eh..?

are you one of them muzza…

and a you lot so like to ‘personalise’ issues like welfare…

why don’t you ask bloody-hands-bob if he cd sling a little bit of that grand..(at least)..a month..that he scams…?

..to the 80 yr olds..eh..?

or..hey..!..maybe if you are ‘scamming’ working for families-welfare…?

..maybe you cd also chip in..?

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:14am
philu

did you really do that..?..farrar..?

use the official information act..’to try and find out the identities of kiwis who had asked for information from the Government?’..

(see 9.05am..)

whoar..!

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:18am
Inventory2

Pauleastbay – read down the story, and you’ll see that the couple referred to attended the “inquiry” into aged care services that Labour and the Greens have organised. Perhaps they were the worst “horror story” at the meeting, so they got the headline.
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May 13, 2010 10:18am
big bruv

Phool

How many times do you have to be told that you have NO right at all to discuss welfare issues with us.

If you were to get a job then you would be welcome, until then, bugger off.
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May 13, 2010 10:21am
Murray

What the fuck is working for families got to do with anything? And no anyway.

But thanks for making my point you useless piece of self entitled crap.

Do you want to make a more pointed accusation of me “scamming” the government so DPF can give you more demerits for defamation or shall we talk about you scamming every single person because you CHOOSE not to work?

Full of shit fucking commies, why to fuck a country up people.
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May 13, 2010 10:22am
Murray

The fucktard doesn’t know when to shop shotgunning himself in the foot BB.
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May 13, 2010 10:23am
philu

“..they reek of life long labour supporters…”

so..that of course should automatically disqualify them..eh..?

you are quite a recent additon to the cast of knuckle-dragging fuckwit neandarthal-morons that lurk here..aren’t you eastbay..?

y’know..!..those ons who make ‘knuckle-dragging fuckwit neandarthal-morons’-type comments…?

..just like your one above….?)

(we haven’t spoken before..have we..)?

..you are holding up yr end there tho’..eh..?

a beck fan are you..?

like so many of the others..?

a ‘life-long’ rightwing ratbag there..eh..?..

..we can assume..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:28am
MikeNZ

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64A3JB20100511
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100511/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictisraelsyriankoreajapan
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0511/Why-Syria-will-keep-saying-no-to-Washington
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7123695.ece

And some on the left wondered why Israel would be so unkind as to bomb a North Korean Nuclear facility in Syria?
Meanwhile the countries concerned keep getting on various UN subcommittees as we march down to Armageddon.
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May 13, 2010 10:31am
philu

here you are..!..all you ‘scared’ righties..!

here are your neuroses identified/explained..

http://whoar.co.nz/2010/what%e2%80%99s-really-behind-the-conservative-movement-fear/

“…Do teabaggers really believe Obama is a socialist?

Do they really believe someone is taking theircountry away from them?

Did they really believe that kanard about death panels?

Do birthers honestly believe the President is some Kenyan Manchurian candidate?

Behind all of these entirely illogical suppositions is fear.

As I was looking at recent Census projections it occurred to me what they fear is diversity.

They fear not being the single most dominant culture in this country.

They fear the day they will no longer be able to force thier culture, their religion and their own ideas about liberty down our throats.

They fear the future.

It just so happens that President Obama represents every element of this cultural fear.

His father’s Kenyan heritage and citizenship makes him a first generation immigrant in the eyes of some.

He’s the product of race mixing.

He’s black.

He’s way smarter than the white guy who previously held the office, and perhaps this is the scariest thing of all: …

… He charmed the pants off the country during the 2008 election.

Nothing, not the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, not calling his wife names, calling him a welfare thug, nothing appears to be able to ruffle the guy’s feathers.

What they fear most is that maybe, just maybe the black man can do the job …

… and maybe, just maybe …

… race really doesn’t matter…”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:34am
side show bob

Poor old philly is just pissed he is missing out on all that nice cash. Gee Philly you should get a job, a few more kids and good accountant, system is just right for some plum picking.
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May 13, 2010 10:37am
MikeNZ

He could always set up shop in Gisbourne, I see they have a need for a people resourcing outfit for the orchards.
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May 13, 2010 10:41am
NeillR

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10644548

Labour’s duplicity revealed
Mr Goff is more relaxed than normal ………..”we are going to be doing a lot of reversing”.

Oh i bet they are – in fact what they’re saying in public (in a vain attempt to garner votes) is nothing like the kind of economic vandalism that will be enacted on the electorate should they ever seize the reigns of power.
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May 13, 2010 10:44am
big bruv

“He’s way smarter than the white guy who previously held the office,”

Despite not showing it…..

Seriously Phool, old ‘W’ was no brain surgeon, but at least he did not need a Teleprompter to order dinner.
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May 13, 2010 10:46am
philu

so..all you righties are going/thinking..’good on ya..!..bloody-hands-bob..!..you suck that sucker dry..!’

and no..i am ‘pissed’ that hypocrites like you….(hiding behind a false name… )..

uses your ‘clever accountant’ to ‘qualify’ for welfare…

and you sit here..on yr dairy farm..rolling in money..ripping off welfare…

(and if it dosen’t rain..or w.h.y..screaming for more govt ‘help’..eh..?..fucken whingers..!)

and attacking sole-parents/the poorest/weakest..

urging the miserly/measly stipend they are forced to exist on..be ‘cut’..or be ‘taken away’…

you truly are vile..eh..?

..and a template of what is so wrong with most of you rightwing ratbags..eh..?

look to bloody-hands-bob…!..he is one of ‘yours’..eh..?

d’ya feel good about that..?

btw..farrar..!

when are you going to clean up yr sewer..?..and make commenters use their real names…?

that will shut up the gutless-wonders…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:48am
side show bob

The Kenyan is a first class criminal Philly, running scared, oh come on, I would say the Kenyan is the one filling his pants. The people are turning on the progressive fool and his criminal mates, the bastards days are numbered. But please feel free to make another one of you famous predictions. And speaking of predictions perhaps it would pay to change you brand of tea, it’s obvious the tea leaves you are using at the moment are of poor grade and useless for predicting anything.
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May 13, 2010 10:48am
Ministry of Justice

DPF –
According to Lprent of The Standard details of an OIA request you made were disclosed to a member of the standard.
It sounds like your request details were disclosed illegally (ie. without statutory authority).

Here is a copy of my post from The Standard…

If the names of people making OIA requests is private information then why did the justice inform X* that the requester was David Farrar?

If it’s not private information then why is the justice consulting with X?

It sounds like the justice is acting illegally – they must be a lefty 🙂

* X to represent the unidentified member of The Standard.
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May 13, 2010 10:51am
side show bob

Biting well to day Philly. You socialists are marvelous people I just love it when they give me heaps of cash to vote for the fools and they don’t get my vote. Please, more socialism please, I just can’t get enough.
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May 13, 2010 10:54am
Akaroa

Ah! here we go again! Ol’ PhilU shaping up to have a good ol’ ad hominum attack on Pauleastbay!

Look, I’ve told you once already, maxi-blogger PhilU, me ol’ pal, me ol’ beauty, that the number of posts an individual has, or has not, clocked up on this blog has absolutely no relevance whatsover to the soundness or otherwise of the particular comment made. Many of us read and reflect without necessarily bursting into print. To attack the individual in the tiresome and juvenile playground-esque way that you so often favour about the modest number of offerngs they have posted reflects on no-one but yourself – the author of – I note – no less that 8095 entries on this blog.

I can’t claim to have seen all 8095, and, latterly, I must confess that I have avoided them as far as is possible. But there is a doleful, wasted, echo about most of your postings that goes to reinforce my earlier comment about empty vessels making the most noise.

But, as I said previously, its as free country! So blog away, matey, with each blog reinforcing the distaste and contempt that so many others appear to harbour about your offerings.
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May 13, 2010 10:56am
philu

no..akoroa..i am ‘attacking’ the mindless comment he made about the 80 yr old cple…

(which is just the latest in a string of such comments..from him/her…

do try to keep up…!…eh..?

(especially if you are ‘wound up’ enough to put finger to keyboard…eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 11:26am
philu

and akaroa..plse be clear on one thing…

‘feeling the hate’ from these neandarthal-crosses….

..only tells me i am ‘getting it right’…

..eh..?

(to para-phrase a famous person..i think it was fdr..talking about the banks/bankers..)

‘i welcome their hate’…

it just shows them up to casual readers..

.. as they/their odious beliefs/politics…

..are starkly on display..

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 11:31am
philu

“..doleful … echo..”

that’s quite funny/clever..

but it was involuntary..?..wasn’t it..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 11:33am
Pauleastbay

The 80 year old couple wether they like it or not are clearly being used as part of a political agenda as I said 1 hour a week would have probably got their news paper bought in from the gate thats about all.

Phil you are just a clown, nobody hides, and if its true that you just sit on your arse rather than work you are also a thief. You get a job and the oldies pension may be able to be increased.

You’ve fucked up the general debate thread for the last few days, fucking off would be good actually.
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May 13, 2010 11:36am
philu

eastbay..you are the ‘clown’…

“..they reek of life long labour supporters…”

(and all in yr own words..eh..?..)

“..nobody hides..”

oh really..?..ask bloody-hands-bob his real name…?

i mean..he is a fucken dairy farmer..

hardly any security reasons why the hypocritical-bludger/welfare-scammer can’t ‘come out’..eh..?

..see him run/hide…!

..why do you run/hide..?..there..bloody-hands-bob..?

is it ‘cos of the vile way you earn money..(aside from the welfare-scamming)..

or because you really wouldn’t want anyone to be able to put yr name/face to yrutterances..?

which is it..?

what is the reason..you lack the testiculat fortitude..(too much dairy..?)..

..to stand beside/behind yr words/actions..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 11:51am
RKBee

It sounds like the justice is acting illegally – MOJ has made a good point DPF if it be from the left or Right it is illegal.
OIA the culprits name and expose them…
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May 13, 2010 12:01pm
philu

so..john key has cracked a joke this morning….the punchline being that tuhoe are cannibals…

whoar..!

there goes that ‘special relationshiip’…eh..?

i don’t think ‘a smile and a wave’ will sort this one out..do you..?

one-term-john seems to be steaming along on course/apace…..

(‘holy no friends except act in 2011..!..batman..!’..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 12:04pm
Akaroa

PhilU – No. My choice of those words – ‘doleful’ and ‘wasted’ – was not involuntary. They seemed to me to reflect something of what I have learned about you via this medium.

I’m mildly astonished, however, that you picked up the inference.
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May 13, 2010 12:08pm
barry

Nat radio reports that “prime minister calls maori Cannibals”

He referred to his dinner date with one group – saying he was better where he was rather than being with Tuhoe – where “He would have been dinner”

Everyone is upset a feeling insulted. Flavell says that although it might be true, it isnt funny.

Bloody hilarious I think. Although key should tell the truth – which is that tuhoe are stupid to think that getting ownership to a hunk of bush (that will cost them zillions to look after ) is going to do them anygood. Its education stupid!
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May 13, 2010 12:08pm
starboard

fuck of whore…youre a waste of space…

Another airbus has crashed..Libya…ya gotta ask yourself about these airbus aircraft..they seem to over represent themselves in droppin outta the sky.
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May 13, 2010 12:09pm
krazykiwi

25% of GD posts so far are the epileptic mewlings of the parasite himself. I’m staying away.
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May 13, 2010 12:13pm
Inventory2

Hey Phil – what suburb of Auckland do you live in? I’m coming up for the weekend, and just want to minimise the chance of bumping in to you 😉
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May 13, 2010 12:17pm
philu

i’ll keep an eye out for the straw-chewing/slow-talking provincial hick….

..and will steer around..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 12:22pm
starboard

..I understand the phool lives at the landfill sth Auckland…
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May 13, 2010 12:24pm
RKBee

Don’t worry Inventory2 DPF will be in Taupo … he must of got wind you were coming.
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May 13, 2010 12:25pm
RKBee

Phil on the other hand is already in the little room where ever you go.
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May 13, 2010 12:28pm
Viking2

Amazing Its really is. 12.30 pm and no arsehole has fucked up the thread with religious debate. umm so far!!!
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May 13, 2010 12:36pm
Ryan Sproull

Kris and I are keeping it to yesterday’s GD, Viking. Sorry for the delay. We’ll get here soon, I’m sure.
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May 13, 2010 12:37pm
RKBee

Seen the Gold prices lately.. Hell if my silver 5kg bar that I brought in the 80s and have used as a door stop all these years… starts to be worth something… the world financial markets will really be in trouble.
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May 13, 2010 12:38pm
Swiftman the infidel

I’ve done a word count on this thread.

Total words = 3827

Total word count (=shit) from philu = 951

Philu is 25% of this thread. This is ridiculous. Time for DPF to close down wanka-boy phil.
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May 13, 2010 12:38pm
Ryan Sproull

Total word count (=shit) from philu = 951

Philu is 25% of this thread. This is ridiculous. Time for DPF to close down wanka-boy phil.

Just use RIP on Firefox. Didn’t you get the memo? It’s like an ignore function for Kiwiblog.
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May 13, 2010 12:40pm
pentwig

phool

Should you not be getting ready?

What: Auckland Bloggers Drinks
When: Thursday 13 May from 6.30pm
Where: Galbraiths, 2 Mt Eden Road, Mt Eden, Auckland

Remember: good manners

Do not forget to take your boxing gloves cause if cactus is there you have the kind of face she just loves to hit.
Not that she is alone with that afflection.
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May 13, 2010 12:48pm
RKBee

barry@12:08 pm

Do you think John Key just mistook the word tuhoe to mean tiehoe.
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May 13, 2010 12:50pm
Lance

Bloody good laugh seeing shit heads get pepper sprayed, those little whip like batons look cool as well

http://swedishwire.com/politics/4479-swedish-mohammed-cartoonist-attacked-
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May 13, 2010 12:55pm
philu

swifty..i urge you to embrace rip..

it has brought peace for a couple of others….

..we can’t have you getting all obsessive…

..and counting words like this now..can we..!

c’mon..!

drive me out of yr life..!

it’s as easy as r.i.p…

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 1:07pm
Kris K

barry 12:08 pm,

Nat radio reports that “prime minister calls maori Cannibals”

He referred to his dinner date with one group – saying he was better where he was rather than being with Tuhoe – where “He would have been dinner”

Everyone is upset a feeling insulted. Flavell says that although it might be true, it isnt funny.

I reckon those MOST insulted will be the revisionist historians that like to ignore most of our heritage – of course many Maori fall into this category.

And don’t mention that the Maori wiped out the Moa and our native eagle, or that they used to kill each other … or that early colonial New Zealand was largely influenced by Christian missionaries.

[There you go Viking2 – I knew you were missing me]
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May 13, 2010 1:09pm
philu

“..Not that she is alone with that afflection…”

did you mean affliction..?..or affectation..?..there..?

neither still make any sense..really…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 1:11pm
Swiftman the infidel

More hypocritical shyte from the ‘Greens’.

Firstly Metiria Turei pretends to be outraged at ‘inequality’ in New Zealand:
http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/05/12/inequality-in-aotearoa-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/

We will all believe her once the ‘Green’ MP’s go on the average wage and discard all their other special privileges (Koru club anyone? etc). ‘Let them eat cake’, eh Metiria – but you don’t fool us lady.

Secondly cane toad pretends to be outraged that John Key made a joke about Maori having other humans on their list of tasty comestibles. Oh the horror!

Of course cane toad is more than happy to bash a whitey a day and blame them directly for the real or alleged crimes of their ancestors in the impoverishment of half caste Maoris today.

I guess being ‘Green’ means never having to say ‘sorry’.
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May 13, 2010 1:33pm
Bevan

I wonder if the usual suspects (Wussell et el) will have an issue with Tama Iti’s sign saying “Tresspasers will be eaten”.

To be clear on my position, Keys statement could just be an unfortunate choice of words – I have heard the same expression used where Maori (or a minority linked to cannibalism) are not involved whatsoever but someone thinks they would be “on the menu” if they were to attend a given event as a result of some grevience. Hell I have heard that expression at a number of AGM’s I have attended in the past – Ive even made the told a certain employer, that if he didnt watch his words tonight, he might find himself on the menu tonight.

But yes, Maori were cannibals – just ask the Moriori. I hear they tasted rather succulent when served with Puha – not that the same could be said about the Puha!.
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May 13, 2010 1:57pm
Ministry of Justice

RKBee –
FYI: My “lefty” comment was just to provoke the lefties at The Standard. I don’t care what political perspective the Justice has.
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May 13, 2010 2:00pm
Captain Neurotic

Phil – Don’t fucking whinge about the being a solo parent, it was (i presume) your choice to have/keep the kid. Under a system of negative eugenics this would not have happened….
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May 13, 2010 2:03pm
Put it away

Swift – does “..eh?” count as a word? If you only count the words that convey some kind of information, the count would be a lot closer to zero. A LOT closer.
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May 13, 2010 2:10pm
Fale Andrew Lesa

Are you allowed to represent the Ministry of Justice on a political blog?

Doesn’t seem entirely ethical lol.
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May 13, 2010 2:11pm
RKBee

Nat radio reports that “prime minister calls maori Cannibals”

He will now have to give tuhoe what they want now.. when Maori take it to the NZ Supreme Court.

The Prime Minister called us poor Maori’s Cannibals.. I wounder how much that will cost us non Maori.

No doubt John Key’s apology will be by way of a large govt paid compensation deal to Maori… money plus land.

You can almost sense it was planned.
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May 13, 2010 2:40pm
Murray

Well if they didn’t want to be called cannibals they shouldn’t eaten eachother.
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May 13, 2010 2:55pm
side show bob

RKBee is being a cannibal worst then being a white mo fo? What goes around comes around.
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May 13, 2010 3:00pm
trout

It is time Maori fronted up and apologized to the descendents of people their ancestors have eaten.
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May 13, 2010 3:01pm
Murray

trout theres more a few masacres of innocent civilians that seem to have been glossed over in the question for saying sorry for shit that was done.
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May 13, 2010 3:03pm
philu

“..Phil – Don’t fucking whinge about the being a solo parent..”

i wasn’t aware i was…

where was that…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 3:04pm
Murray

Maybe you should just fuck up and fuck off. Its getting on for dinner time so go hold up the local dairy why don’t you.
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May 13, 2010 3:11pm
side show bob

Pauleastbay, a year or so ago I actually invited philly to the farm but he turned me down as he knew all about us evil farmers. I could waste a lot of time explaining to this idiot some of the facts of life in the country and correct him on the countless misconceptions he has but it just isn’t worth the effort. I’m afraid philly only believes in what he wants to believe, look at the countless times he has been called out but he is always right. I’m sure old age will not be kind to philly, slumped over the keyboard and wondering why everyone in the world is wrong except himself.
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May 13, 2010 3:17pm
Ryan Sproull

When did people stop using RIP to cut out philu?
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May 13, 2010 3:19pm
philu

“..Under a system of negative eugenics this would not have happened……”

is that official act policy..?

or is it just on that wish-list..?.

..you keep hidden in the drawer..?

..and only bring out on special occaisons/covens…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 3:22pm
philu

‘cos..it has a certain awful ‘attraction’ for them….?

just wondering..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 3:23pm
RKBee

side show bob @3:00 pm
RKBee is being a cannibal worst then being a white mo fo? What goes around comes around.

Bob have you just realised you and your bro’s have a bit of whitie in you through your mother… or your simply just being racist.
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May 13, 2010 3:32pm
ISeeRed

Oh man, another thread that’s become just another virtual cumsheet for philu’s disgusting ejaculations of dribble. He just can’t help abusing himself again and again and again. I think the time has come for us to boycott Kiwiblog. If philu doesn’t go, we go!
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May 13, 2010 3:32pm
side show bob

Not sure what you are on about RKBee, I was just trying to point out that if Hone can call 85% of the country Mo Fos and Shonkey calls 15% of the countries population cannibals what insult ranks the highest. What goes around comes around. I know the PM does not go around trading insults but thats not the point, lets see what becomes of this and what the reaction will be from the 15%. I’m picking the “outrage” will require a written apology and a few million dollars.
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May 13, 2010 3:46pm
stephen

If philu doesn’t go, we go!

Ryan didn’t say it, so i’ll say it: Get a grip – don’t read or respond to his posts and you won’t have a problem.
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May 13, 2010 3:57pm
philu

nah..!..bloody-hands-bob….more that there has now been a sudden realisation amongst maori that ‘smile ‘n wave’ john…

has just been ‘playing’ them…

anything purely symbolic..?..yeah sure..!

nything of meaning/worth…fuck no..!

another thought to hold on this..

..is that 90% of those who gave their candidate vote to the maori party..

..gave their party vote to labour…not national..

(they are that chorus you can now hear going:..’told you so..!’

2011 election is going to be mighty interesting..eh..?

one-term-john it is..

..eh..?

those of you with a half a brain…must be starting to get a furrowed brow..?

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 4:00pm
nickb

A few interesting stories today….

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10644667

and

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10644636

Now I have had the priviliege of some very good lectures by Justice Priestly and Asher, but my respect for them has gone out the window. Who are they to say to the victims of these crimes that the sentences imposed were “manifestly unjust”?

Time to consider handing sentencing to the jury? Our judges are clearly failing the public. No wonder no one has confidence in the judicial process, what a joke.
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May 13, 2010 4:07pm
pentwig

phool

You have never given a correct assessment on KB yet.

Given that you all your predictions are ass about face, the Nats are going to piss in.

Thank you
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May 13, 2010 4:34pm
philu

rule alone..?..ya reckon/dream..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 5:12pm
nickb

Does anyone have the link to the kiwiblog version of RIP?

I downloaded the standard RIP, but IIRC there was a modified one for KB, if anyone can point me in the direction of it I would be much appreciated, as I am tired of KB bing clogged up by certain people’s verbal ejaculation
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May 13, 2010 5:25pm
philu

(that’s ncb ticked -off…)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 5:31pm
ISeeRed

stephen, it’s like strolling through a nice park and seeing dogshit everywhere. Sure, you don’t have to pick it up, but it’s still there stinking and fouling up the place. You can’t help but notice it no matter how quickly you walk on by. philu takes massive regular dumps on Kiwiblog even though he’s got his own lawn he can despoil. Boot or boycott – what’s it to be?
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May 13, 2010 6:13pm
nickb

If anyone wants to block philu’s incessant garbage download this:

http://ripwiki.pbworks.com/K-RIPs

and this

http://rip.mozdev.org/
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May 13, 2010 6:42pm
nickb

Oh and make sure to change the year to 2010
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May 13, 2010 6:42pm
philu

there ya go..!

is(n)eered..

..off ya go..!

eh..?

onto a brave new ‘dogshit’-free r.i.p-world…

eh..?

feel the silence…!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 6:44pm
dad4justice

‘dogshit”

Up in smoke goes the turd said the addict phool.
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May 13, 2010 7:03pm
Steve

Phool is a reminder of why you pay so much TAX. He is a maggot
Quardle Oodle Wardle Ardle Doodle the magpie says as he collects news to aggregate and sell to the Americans when his blog site is perfected.
Fucking wanker
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May 13, 2010 7:17pm
nickb

Block him then Steve. Takes 1 minute
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May 13, 2010 7:24pm
Steve

I don’t use Firefox nick.
But I just ignore the stupid prick, there is no need to read his tripe, just scroll past.
Self control, he can get fucked. I detest paying for his lifestyle, the system allows it, so the system will be changed or Jonkey will not get votes. Yeah, I posted a whistle to John, blow it at election time
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May 13, 2010 7:34pm
nickb

I changed browsers just so I could ignore his diarrhea. Well worth it
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May 13, 2010 8:03pm
Hurf Durf

Six months on and Phillip still doesn’t know how RIP works. Blissful ignorance.
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May 13, 2010 8:14pm
Hurf Durf

LOL Phillip. The racial shit has been debunked so many times the only people who believe it are the racists on the far-left who need anything to grip onto the delusion and the lie that is Le Roi Soleil. Absolutely pathetic. Go have another toke, you douchenozzle.
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May 13, 2010 8:57pm
ISeeRed

Why should we have to use RIP? To extend/abuse my analogy further, if we don’t like smelling dogshit in the park, why should we have to clamp clothespegs onto our noses and let the mangy mutt continue racing around crapping everywhere? Time the dogcatcher rounded up and put down the mongrel fleabag once and for all. It’s a public health issue, it really is. 😉
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May 13, 2010 10:17pm
philu

have you thought of stuffing corks up yr nose..?

getting some blinkers…?

but seriously..!..r.i.p. me..!

c’mon..!

you’ll feel better..!

just download firefox..(it’s probably better than the ie you are using…eh…?

..and then you can r.i.p. me..

..eh..?

end your suffering..!

..end your pain…!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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May 13, 2010 10:37pm
MikeNZ

http://iransolidarity.blogspot.com/

Now here is an injustice the ploughshares group could get stuck into.
Iran is executing young people they arrested who complained about the fixed election.
most of the families haven’t been told and those who have are not getting the bodies unless they give guarentees that there won’t be protest in Iarn or abroad.

well what about it brya?
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