General Debate 27 April 2010

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philu

“..Labour voters must have seen DPFs Little pole..”

does anyone else agree..that that is the funniest kiwiblog comment..ever..!

(well done that rightie..!..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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April 27, 2010 8:21am
Pete George

I cracked up at this krazy one yesterday too:

DPF: I now have to find something else to waste time on

Taking leadership of the Labour party would help with that.

Also yesterday an odd one from Rudman:

Talking of 100 years ago, last week I wrote of the rebellion in darkest Howick against being included in a new Super City electorate called Te Irirangi. Locals seem outraged at living in a ward named after the original Maori landlord of the area.

What did surprise me at the time was how overwhelmingly anti-Te Irirangi the “professional poll” results were. Only 5 per cent supported that name, compared to 58 per cent for Howick and 31 per cent for Howick/Pakuranga/Botany.

I’ve since got a copy of the official questionnaire the telephone pollsters from Curia Research used, and the reason is clear. Te Irirangi was not given as a choice.

Those rung were told the local community boards wanted the proposed name changed and were asked did they prefer Howick or Howick/Pakuranga/Botany?

Only if someone insisted on Te Irirangi was it recorded. No wonder Te Irirangi scored so poorly.
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April 27, 2010 8:31am
Swiftman the infidel

What a laugh!

That aussie wanka Wussel Norman is complaining about foreigners buying houses in new Zealand.

And making racist remarks about the Chinese!

Who would have thought?
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April 27, 2010 8:45am
krazykiwi

Swiftman, perhaps Wussell has his party policy dictated by powerful offshore interests 🙂
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April 27, 2010 9:07am
Grant Michael McKenna

Today in 1994 the first South African general election held with universal adult suffrage took place; the day is officially celebrated as Freedom Day. It is also an unofficial day of mourning started by Abahlali baseMjondolo to demonstrate that the poor are still not free in South Africa. Demonstrations about the failure of the ANC to deliver economic and social change are seen by many in the ANC as being treasonable; it will be interesting to see what develops as groups move increasingly away from the ANC’s vote-banking style of organisation.
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April 27, 2010 9:11am
toad

Swiftman – read Russel’s media release and tell us what you think is racist about it. He doesn’t even mention the Chinese. The issue is not the ethnicity of the people who are buing up our houses, it is the fact that they don’t bloody well live in New Zealand and their influence in the residential property market is increasingly making buying a first home unaffordable for people who do.

If you think that is somehow racist against Chinese, then explain why his comments are being supported by a NZ Chinese real estate agent.
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April 27, 2010 9:20am
Manolo

I await with interest the government’s reaction to the Law Commission report on alcohol. Will Neville Key dismiss it out of hand as he did with Brash’s report?
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April 27, 2010 9:40am
malcolm

Racism pops up early today. Can anyone explain the fundamental problem with racism? It seems rather arbitrary and most people reserve the right to dislike certain groups/cultures (gays, politicians, gay politicains, non-gay politicans, poor people, rich people, lazy people, stupid people, clever people, rude people, socialists, capitalists, muslims, christians, athiests, etc etc). And no one objects when we associate positive attributes to certains races/cultures. “Those japs are clever and hard-working too”, “Scandanavian women are good looking”, “Polish builders are bloody good” etc.

So why is racism singled out as being a very bad thing?

FWIW I don’t consider myself racist, but I am culturalist. I think some cultures are a bit backward.
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April 27, 2010 9:45am
dime

toad – any stats on foreign house ownership? do we know if its really having an impact? not sure if its in his press release.. hearing your leader, seeing your leader or reading his press releases sends me into a state of rage 😛
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April 27, 2010 9:49am
dime

malcolm – because it leads to oppression i guess! that and its just not very nice 🙂
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April 27, 2010 9:50am
Murray

Hey look those crazy kids at Hamas (AKA the government of Palestine) have taken to cartooning1 Ha ha wee thats a real giggle isn’t it. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10641065

Of you go lefties blames those evil Jews again because there is nothing that a terrorist does that is wrong is there.
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April 27, 2010 9:55am
krazykiwi

As an owner (a filthy capitalist despised by Marxists) of private property (abhorrent and despised by Marxists) I want to have the freedom (yes, also despised by Marxists) to sell my property to whoever will give me the best deal.

The best deal for me may not be the best deal for you

If I am concerned about foreigners ‘buying up NZ’ then I’ll ask to see a buyers passport and decline their kind offer.

If I am concerned about my retirement savings and/or my kids education and/or whatever then I’ll likely choose the best price.

It’s my call. It’s not the government’s call.
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April 27, 2010 9:58am
Inventory2

Grant Michael McKenna said

Today in 1994 the first South African general election held with universal adult suffrage took place; the day is officially celebrated as Freedom Day.

Grant – I had the privilege of attending a service clubs’ convention in Durban in September 2004. FW de Klerk spoke at the opening ceremony (Mandela was at the White House that day!), and received a prolonged standing ovation at the conclusion of his speech.

A couple of weeks later I stood on the forecourt at the Union Buildings where Mandela’s inauguration had been held. We were told it was the largest gathering of world leaders since JFK’s funeral.. They were two moments I hold dear.

It’s sad that SA has been unable to produce another leader even fit to tie Mandela’s sandals. Mbeki will be forever tarnished by his refusal to condemn his mate in Harare, and Zuma is – let’s just say he’s Zuma, which explains a lot! This blogger’s opinion from afar (and I haven’t been there for 12 years or so) is that South Africa has wasted a golden opportunity.
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April 27, 2010 10:00am
Murray

You krazy kiwi, all your decisions are belong to government commrade!
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April 27, 2010 10:06am
malcolm

malcolm – because it leads to oppression i guess! that and its just not very nice

Although that doesn’t explain why racism is a bad thing per se. And if there were sufficient safe-guards against oppression would racism then be OK?

I still don’t understand why racism is considered to be worse than any other “group dislike”, but I agree that a lot of bad outcomes can be attributed to racism or culturalism.
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April 27, 2010 10:08am
calendar girl

“… the government’s reaction to the Law Commission report on alcohol. Will Neville Key dismiss it out of hand as he did with Brash’s report?”

Hopefully. From what we have heard so far, most of the recommendations are what we expect from Sir Geoffrey Palmer whose personal views are not closely related to life in the ordinary (real?) world in which most of us tend to live. We need effective policing, not social engineering.
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April 27, 2010 10:10am
Fletch

Did anyone see Close Up last night, with Mark Sainsbury playing “how to ask as many dumb questions as I can in 10 minutes” while interviewing colleagues of the three Air Force pilots who died. Duh… They always do that.
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April 27, 2010 10:13am
Inventory2

Whoops – my 10.00am comment should have said “I had the privilege of attending a service clubs’ convention in Durban in September 1994.”

Brain-dead today!
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April 27, 2010 10:18am
krazykiwi

malcolm, The promotion of ‘racism’, whether or not it really exists, creates a victim. Modern victims have been conditioned to believe that their salvation comes from others rescuing them, rather than overcoming difficulties themselves. Governments love a reason to weild the power afforded them by a ‘rescuer’ status. Connect the dots.
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April 27, 2010 10:21am
Swiftman the infidel

Turd you are full of it.

If you are against foreign control of NZ then send that Wussel wanka-boy back home to Queensland.
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April 27, 2010 10:23am
malcolm

@krazykiwi – That might be part of it. But most people have an automatic revulsion when confronted with racism. I don’t think this is the work of governments. Dime was probably onto it. People have seen the end result of racism and there’s a natural tendancy to make something taboo if it has caused a lot of trouble. Kind of like marrying your cousin.

Which begs the question. If we were confident that individuals rights were protected, would racism then be acceptable? In the same way it’s OK to dislike people who don’t share you political views?
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April 27, 2010 10:34am
Manolo

Silly question to ask: http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/2010/04/27/is-john-key-a-man-of-his-word/
The answr is an emphatic No!

Hat Tip: Whale Oil
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April 27, 2010 10:45am
side show bob

Manolo, damn right, one really has to wonder who is yanking Shonkey’s chains. Has the whole National socialists caucus been subjected to a frontal lobotomy, the silence is deafening. Shonkey and lackeys speak with forked tongue, butter wouldn’t melt in the bastards mouths before the election. Then it was the National party, purveyors of sensible governance and champions all things business. I want my vote back, the product is a total failure.
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April 27, 2010 11:35am
Bryla

It’s easy to protect individual rights so that racism doesn’t carry with it any adverse consequences.

All we need is an agency which can assess the mental health and moral purity of citizens from the age of three onwards, perhaps with an annual psychiatric review, informed by a neighbourhood questionnaire which records and then responds to any allegations of improper thinking and behaviour.

Link this to a network of surveillance cameras in all public and work places, monitored in two independent locations – with a special squad to monitor and investigate the guardians themselves.

Abberrant behaviour can be dealt with by special tribunals which are given some freedoms from formal legal restraints in the area, say, of rules of evidence. Miscreants gets sent to camps that rehabilitate and re-educate them through the virtues of civic labour.

Voila – a free society in which racism has its place.
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April 27, 2010 12:06pm
RKBee

philu @ 8:21 am

I’m glad you like my sense of homur..phil..u
“..Labour voters must have seen DPFs Little pole..”

But you got a bit touchy with my other comment that you waste time… i should of added waste of time or just wasted all the time…

malcolm @ 10:08 am

Racism is OK? If you think it and don’t say it…

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April 27, 2010 12:09pm
RightNow

Interesting (disturbing) article by Tom Fuller regarding the Oxburgh whitewash investigation into the CRU
http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2010m4d25-Global-warming-The-Oxburgh-Inquiry-was-an-offer-he-couldnt-refuse

Some of the salient points;
Lord Oxburgh is chairman of Falck Renewables, a manufacturer of windfarms and the UK subsidiary of The Falck Group, a Milan-based manufacturer.
A sister company of Oxburgh’s Falck Renewables, Actelios, is publicly traded and had suffered serious falls in its stock price during the period of Climategate, etc.
Lord Oxburgh’s company, its parent and more than one of its sister companies have had organised crime activities surrounding their acquisition of property and installation of green energy systems.
The green energy industry, organised crime investors, Falck Renewables and its parent and sister companies stood to benefit from an investigation the results of which did not overturn the science findings of CRU.
The parent group of Oxburgh’s Falck Renewables is the Falck Group of Milan. As with so many Italian businesses, it’s a complicated maze of crossholdings and interlocked ownership that makes it almost impossible to decipher. However Falck’s sister company Actelios was the target of an anti-Mafia investigation, as reported last week.
Italian and EU subsidies for the building of wind farms and the world’s highest guaranteed rates, €180 ($240, £160) per kwh, for the electricity they produce have turned southern Italy into a highly attractive market exploited by organised crime.
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April 27, 2010 12:19pm
malcolm

@Bryla – I was thinking more along the lines of the state protecting your basic rights and freedoms so even if someone doesn’t like you because of your race they can’t harm you.

@RKBee – Agreed. Of course you should be free to think whatever you like. I’m just wondering why disliking a group of people because of their race is worse than disliking a group of people because of their culture or their actions or their beliefs? Is it because it offends our innate sense of natural justice – innocent until till proven guilty and all that stuff?
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April 27, 2010 12:25pm
krazykiwi

World People’s Conference on Climate Change and the Rights of Mother Earth
Today, our Mother Earth is wounded and the future of humanity is in danger
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And it’s goes downhill from there. Some more tasty morsels:

Today from Bolivia, we declare the world to be in a state of emergency and call on all world’s peoples and their organizations to mobilize and on governments to raise awareness and commitment to defend Mother Earth

Translation: Gaia is under attach and she’s not happy with us

Participants in a conference on climate change are demanding 300 billion US dollars in annual compensation from wealthy countries and transnational companies to deal with the effects of global warming

Translation: Demand for taxation-supported transfer of funds… from the poor in wealthy countries, to the rich in poor countries.

To face climate change, we must recognize Mother Earth as the source of life and forge a new system based on the principles

Translation: Dismantle capitalism and return to a primitive, feudal lifestyle

This group is seeking to promote the analysis of the underlying, structural root causes of climate change. We aim to reveal how and in what way the rise in greenhouse gases are a product of a model of life and development under the capitalist system that is premised on the supremacy of human beings over nature

Translation: It’s not GHG’s that are screwing up the planet, it’s we humans. Humans must hand back the planet to Gaia

~~~~~
It’s easy to laugh this kind of stuff off as extremist. But these groups are well organised, well funded and well connected with powerful global organisations. Sensible humans should be concerned enough to push back – hard!
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April 27, 2010 12:31pm
malcolm

Italian and EU subsidies for the building of wind farms and the world’s highest guaranteed rates, €180 ($240, £160) per kwh

If a journalist can’t even understand the basic units of what they’re talking about, how much faith can you put in their ability to understand and convey the less obvious details? He probably meant MWh rather than kWh (and certainly not kwh).
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April 27, 2010 12:31pm
RightNow

Malcolm, I haven’t searched to confirm the subsidy rate, but I recall some solar outfit was using arclights at night to fake ‘green energy’ from their solar farm to increase the subsidies. It’s possibly the subsidy really is per kwh (although I also think that is likely not the case). Am trying to confirm the actual subsidies and will let you know what I find out.
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April 27, 2010 12:35pm
krazykiwi

Rightnow – that solar fraud story is here.

Extract:

The prices paid for green energy were so high that it appeared to be profitable to generate that energy by shining conventionally fuelled arclights on the solar panels.
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April 27, 2010 12:42pm
malcolm

RightNow, I’m sure it would be per MWh (so 18 cents per kWh – or what most people call a ‘unit’).

It’s just a pet peeve of mine. Invariably if you read a report with a technical component on which you have some knowledge, you’ll find errors. It makes me very sceptical of any media reports which are more complex than “cat up tree rescued by firemen” (i.e. Close Up).

I used to subscribe to the Economist. They have a clever where they tighly control the writing style and articles don’t have authors. The result is the magazine comes across as very knowledgeable and authoritative. The final straw for me was when I read their article on the Midwest Blackout in 2003 (?). It was complete bollocks, but it was written with such confidence and certainty.
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April 27, 2010 12:46pm
RightNow

Thanks kk. I’m having no luck finding a straight-out table of energy subsidies, but at face value I’d have to agree that €180 per kwh is so ridiculously high it can’t be right. That said I don’t believe it negates at all what Tom Fuller has said, but if Malcolm thinks a journo mistaking his units is cause to disregard the other facts then shouldn’t we be holding climate scientists to at least the same standard and chucking out the IPCC reports etc?
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April 27, 2010 12:51pm
malcolm

Photovoltaic solar is definitely not economical for bulk power generation. Although a lot people in NZ have decided that it’s more economic for them than paying the full cost of connection to the local 11 kV network.

Solar water heating OTOH is almost always an economic winner*. The main reason it’s not more popular is that a lot of people are not economically rational and/or live financially hand-to-mouth and don’t have the money to invest to reap the long-term savings. Hence all the houses in NZ which have not one jot of insulation.

*assuming you don’t buy ‘cheap’ evacuated tubes.
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April 27, 2010 12:57pm
Paw Prick

Looks like Australia has ditched its ETS plans!
looks like just us left??
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7114326/aust-scrapping-emissions-trading-scheme/
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April 27, 2010 1:02pm
malcolm

Malcolm thinks a journo mistaking his units is cause to disregard the other facts then shouldn’t we be holding climate scientists to at least the same standard and chucking out the IPCC reports etc?

It’s more than just units. But that’s an indicator that they have no domain knowledge. So any comparisons or basic analysis they present is suspect. Which is how you get meaningless statements like “this lightbulb will save you enough energy to run your oven for 1 week”. Confusing power and energy is almost compulsory for journalists.

FWIW, if anyone thinks other forms for power generation are subsidy-free then you really haven’t seen how large power and transmission projects are built. A recent example is the replacement nuclear stations in the UK (all their existing nuclear stations are planned to be decommission with the next 10-15 years). No company would even put in proposals to rebuild at the existing sites unless the govt would guaranteed them indemnity from the cost for future decommissioning.
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April 27, 2010 1:08pm
RKBee

malcolm@12:25 pm
“I’m just wondering why disliking a group of people because of their race is worse than disliking a group of people because of their culture or their actions or their beliefs?”

Openly disliking (discriminating) on ones race, cuture, or beliefs, it’s all the same discrimination under the Human Rights Commission if you do or say it… there I said it.

back to work.
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April 27, 2010 1:15pm
malcolm

True, but I wouldn’t look to the Human Rights Commission to get an understanding of this :-). Their thinking is far too muddled.
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April 27, 2010 1:30pm
starboard

Olinale Ah You was no stranger to using violence to get what he wanted, committing a series of shocking assaults right up to when he brutally killed 80-year-old Yan Ping Yang.
Ah You, 30, was yesterday found guilty of murdering Mrs Yang. She died in hospital on June 14, 2008, three days after he battered her frail body with punches and kicks and stomped on her chest that knocked her unconscious.

…and this from his lawyer…

Ah You argued he hadn’t meant to kill Mrs Yang. His lawyer Shane Cassidy said the assault, while disgraceful, wasn’t particularly vicious when compared to other attacks.
“When you look at the scale of nastiness what this man did to her wasn’t particularly over the top,” he said

WTF !!! are you fucking kidding ??!!…it wasnt particularly nasty !!! She died FFS !!! He brutally killed an 80 year old lady !!
The scum lawyer has the gall to say it wasnt nasty or vicious !!! I hope lawyer Shane Cassidy and the murderer both get cancer and die a slow painful death .
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April 27, 2010 1:44pm
Manolo

Even Adolf, the most rabid of Neville Key’s acolytes, (well, the second one), is crying foul about the ETS:
http://nominister.blogspot.com/2010/04/no-excuses-left.html
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April 27, 2010 2:23pm
wreck1080

Banning of cycle helmets has directly caused obesity rates to increase.

This must be true.

I know, that I will tend to drive a short distance whereas in the old pre-helmet days I would have been more likely to bike. I am slightly overweight (BMI 26), maybe if helmets were optional I would not be overweight?

The extra effort of finding, and the buckling/unbuckling of helmets is a pain in the arse and deterrent to using a bike.

My opinion is that cycle helmets should be optional. I wonder, if this would save lives overall.
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April 27, 2010 2:52pm
mawm

I2 – South Africa has wasted a golden opportunity.

This is the level of discourse in the SA Parliament (you’ll have to listen very carefully) –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB238bOfbIk&feature=player_embedded
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April 27, 2010 3:04pm
Inventory2

Did the coppers come a-knockin’ on Philip Ure’s door this morning?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3627912/Undercover-cops-bust-huge-cannabis-growing-ring
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April 27, 2010 3:11pm
krazykiwi

Merkel Abandons Aim of Binding Climate Agreement
Frustrated by the climate change conference in December, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is quietly moving away from her goal of a binding agreement on limiting climate change to 2 degrees Celsius. She has also sent out signals at the EU level that she no longer supports the idea of Europe going it alone

Dear Go-it-alone-John,

All your mates are abandoning you. First Kev, now the lovely Angela.

Apparently the king’s climate-clothes have never really existed.

And now, rather than being a Calendar PM’s photo-shoot, you’ve found yourself standing naked and alone on the world stage.

Can you hear the sniggers?

It’s not too late.

Your sincerely,
krazykiwi
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April 27, 2010 3:14pm
Manolo

“Did the coppers come a-knockin’ on Philip Ure’s door this morning?”

I for one hope so. It would be ideal to make the bludger a guest of Her Majesty for a long indefinite period.
Imagine the savings on welfare benefits, let alone the pain of his rubbish ideas inflicted on felllow readers.

It can only be a win-win situation.
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April 27, 2010 3:18pm
Pete George

Wreck, maybe if some of the time you spent eating was spent putting your helmet on you’d have a win-win.
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April 27, 2010 3:20pm
RightNow

“The search warrants included 16 branches and the distribution centre of a major national supplier of indoor growing supplies, which police would not name. ” A quick look at sog.co.nz lists precisely 16 branches.
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April 27, 2010 3:26pm
krazykiwi

Pete, lol. I recall reading some research that refuted the safety benefits claimed for cycle helmet use. One of the angles was that cycle helmets prevent laceration-type injuries to the skull (which are not usually fatal), but because they’re rock solid they do nothing for to stop massive concussion and/or spinal injuries what tend to be more fatal. I’ve been playing with some designs in an attempt to address this.
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April 27, 2010 3:30pm
Inventory2

What krazykiwi (3.14pm) said

And what we’ve said too

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/04/follow-their-lead-john.html
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April 27, 2010 3:46pm
Grant Michael McKenna

Mawm, the you-tube video to which you like is an edited version of the Parmalat Ever-fresh Long Life Milk advert, in which a politician drones on and on, but the tea ladies are still able to serve fresh milk. The actor is not a politician.
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April 27, 2010 3:56pm
malcolm

I know, that I will tend to drive a short distance whereas in the old pre-helmet days I would have been more likely to bike. I am slightly overweight (BMI 26), maybe if helmets were optional I would not be overweight?

I agree. In my experience helmets are effectively optional now. The most I’ve had is a policeman yell “Get your bloody helmet” while passing me. So I think you’re safe to make your own judgement. If it’s a short trip mainly off the road then I enjoy the wind in my hair. Having said that I came off rather badly a few months ago on the road and my helmet saved me from a very nasty bang to the head.
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April 27, 2010 3:58pm
RightNow

go Boobquake! http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/and-boobquake-experiment-has-begun.html
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April 27, 2010 4:02pm
philu

nah..!….i don’t think they are targeting smokers/consumers..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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April 27, 2010 4:36pm
cha

“The search warrants included 16 branches and the distribution centre of a major national supplier of indoor growing supplies, which police would not name. ” A quick look at sog.co.nz lists precisely 16 branches.

My favourite has just got to be the Easy Tosser Salad Pro

<pi>…..leaving only perfectly manicured salad……
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April 27, 2010 4:50pm
mawm

GMK – yes of course…..but he’s far too intelligent to be a real SA’n parliamentarian.

Here’s some more in the same vein. Nearly as good as the Nando’s ‘change you can believe in’ ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0OY9YkeU8
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April 27, 2010 4:57pm
Viking2

Aust scrapping emissions trading scheme

Tuesday, 27, Apr, 2010 11:41AM

Fear of a voter backlash has seen the Australian government dump plans for an emissions trading scheme.

Federal Cabinet has deferred the ETS until at least 2013 amid concern that Liberal leader Tony Abbott will attack Prime Minister Kevin Rudd over what he calls a “great big new tax” in the lead-up to this year’s election.

Greens leader Bob Brown says that is a big mistake because climate change is real.

“It’s stalking Australia, it’s threatening the Great Barrier Reef, it’s threatening the Murray-Darling Basin.”
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April 27, 2010 5:55pm
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2010/commentwhoarthe-lies-toldpeddled-about-cannabis/

(this is the police commissioner pope..or something..justifying/telling outright lies..to justify busting suppliers of cannabis-growing supplies..)

“..”Cannabis is the most abused controlled drug in New Zealand.

The harm that this drug causes New Zealand communities can be conservatively estimated at $430 million a year.

It hurts every community in every part of the country.”

um..!..how exactly..?…hospital admissions for cannabis overdoses/’freakouts’..?..(y’know..!..like alcohol does..eh..?)

..crime committed by cannabis-addicts..to feed their ‘habits’..?..eh..?

..this figure of $430 million is just total bullshit…!

..(but i bet no member of the mainstram media calls him on this..

..and asks him for a breakdown of this bullshit-figure..and just exactly how communites are ‘hurt’..fom people smoking a joint..?..eh..?..)

these people/authorities can just get away with outright black propaganda/lying..

.and how exactly does cannabis ‘hurt’ these communities..?

..people smoking a joint in their home..of an evening..’hurts’ who exactly..?

..lies..!..lies..!..just all lies..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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April 27, 2010 6:26pm
big bruv

“..crime committed by cannabis-addicts..to feed their ‘habits’..?..eh..?”

Tell that to the poor bastard you bashed in your desperate desire to feed your habit.

Phool, a great number of us can see the damage long term cannabis abuse does to people, you of course have no fucking idea because your brain has been fucked by the stuff.

I have said this many time Phool (and each time I take great satisfaction because I know it pissed you off) that cannabis will never be legal in your lifetime.
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April 27, 2010 6:35pm
Inventory2

Personally Phil, I’m delighted that the police has busted this scam operation. And when you say

.and how exactly does cannabis ‘hurt’ these communities..?

..people smoking a joint in their home..of an evening..’hurts’ who exactly..?

..lies..!..lies..!..just all lies..!

you actually answer the question you posed. It’s just a shame that your brain is so PCP-addled that you can’t see the irony of it all 🙂
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April 27, 2010 6:38pm
dad4justice

Phool pulls another huge bong. Cough, cough, went the chemist.
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April 27, 2010 6:46pm
Viking2

http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/HOOD_460x230.jpg
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April 27, 2010 6:52pm
Inventory2

D’you mean the chemist who got robbed Dad?
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April 27, 2010 6:52pm
dad4justice

Yes Inventory what kind of disturbed person robs a chemist shop?
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April 27, 2010 6:54pm
LeftRightOut

I’d like to see the commish justify that figure, too. Is the cost the $$ wasted by police in prosecuting this victimless crime?

Under the bridge downtown
Is where I drew some blood
Under the bridge downtown
I could not get enough
Under the bridge downtown
Forgot about my love
Under the bridge downtown
I gave my life away

There are far worse drugs than Mary Jane.
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April 27, 2010 6:55pm
philu

“.Tell that to the poor bastard you bashed..”

i have never ‘bashed’ anyone..you lying piece of shit..

phil(whoar,co.nz)
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April 27, 2010 7:28pm
philu

“..It’s just a shame that your brain is so PCP-addled ..”

i have never taken pcp..

(see what i mean about fucken liars..and the lies they peddle..?.)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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April 27, 2010 7:30pm
philu

at least i’m not an inbred/cross-eyed ginge..like yrslf..eh d4j..?

i took the ‘cure’..

for you there is no ‘cure’..

..eh..?

..(to paraphrase churchill..)

you’ll always be as ugly as fucken sin..

..eh..?

(cue banjo-sequence from ‘deliverance’..

phil(whoar.co .nz)
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April 27, 2010 7:37pm
starboard

youre sounding paranoid whore…” BOO “
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April 27, 2010 7:42pm
big bruv

” have never ‘bashed’ anyone..you lying piece of shit..”

Oh…so that makes it OK does it?

You robbed a Chemist if I am not mistaken, no doubt you used violence of some form because I doubt that the nice man would have handed over the drugs to you if you had just said “please can I have something to fuck my brain”.

I also note that you have never said you are sorry for putting the poor chemist through hell, you seem to brush it off as the desperate act of your friendly neighbourhood junkie and it seems that we are expected to all feel sorry for you.
Never have I read where you have said you were sorry, as usual, it is all about you and your “fuck everybody else whose life you happen to destroy” attitude.

I just wish the Chemist had a gun.
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April 27, 2010 8:13pm
dad4justice

“at least i’m not an inbred/cross-eyed” chemist shop robber.
Smack the jack you whacko. Ugly is not a term I understand. Bong some geli and be done with it.
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April 27, 2010 8:22pm
starboard

the whore used a shotgun I believe to rob said chemist.
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April 27, 2010 8:25pm
dad4justice

Addicts and shotguns is much like Helen with the Heathers.
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April 27, 2010 8:27pm
LeftRightOut

dad4justice, you are the slimiest shit I have ever had the misfortune to run across. Fuck off until you learn some manners. Maybe you need a good woman in your life, but I doubt any woman would have, even a mail order bride.
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April 27, 2010 8:38pm
dad4justice

How come you can change from fugley, to billy snorker now leftfartout? I wish I could change so I can con the demerit board!! You silly old twit. What a twat. I have more woman in my life than you have brain cells.
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April 27, 2010 8:40pm
expat

*pulls up chair*
*opens beer*
*grabs handful of pop corn*
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April 27, 2010 8:47pm
expat

oh, is leftrightout that c*ck billyborker?
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April 27, 2010 8:47pm
dad4justice

Of course billyborker is leftfartout. He was once fugley. Sick old chap.
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April 27, 2010 8:48pm
krazykiwi

Is there no end to the obtuse commercialization of alarmism …

Seed-Sprouting Face Mask Protects You from Pollution, Sequesters Your CO2

We thought we saw them all when the swine flu craze was at its peak, but in the weird and wacky world of face masks, there’s a new one to top them all.

The Green Screen by designer Robert Ortega is an anti-bacterial and reusable face mask that “sequesters the Co2 from every exhale.”

Made from pulp and embedded with seeds that actually sprout, the face mask is supposed to not only help keep your lungs safe from the world, but keep the world safe from the mini carbon dioxide emissions coming from your lungs.

Of course, like so much AGW alarmism, it’s all nonsense. The prospect of a few shoots absorbing liters of Co2 from my breathing is just not gonna happen.
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April 27, 2010 8:59pm
kaya

The bust on SOG is a soft bust, no different than popping people for doing 111kph on the motorway. Makes the stats look good eh crusher? They advertised on the radio ffs!
Thanks for saving us from all the fucked up drug addicts boys, time and money well spent! Tui.
The police in NZ really have become a bunch of soft cock, pencil pushing shiny arses.
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April 27, 2010 9:29pm
starboard

dad4justice, you are the slimiest shit I have ever had the misfortune to run across

BAHAHA!…pot meet kettle you shithead LRO
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April 27, 2010 9:39pm
jinpy

Malcolm,

First, there is really no such thing as race given that genetic variation within a proposed racial group is always much greater than that between groups. While each of us has a particular genetic lineage, categorizing into races such as caucasoid, mongoloid… etc. is arbitrary, historical and increasingly out of use.

As to your point, I dont think racism is necessarily ‘more evil’ than other prejudices, beyond the fact that it acts as a more powerful in group/out group distinction leading to conflict on a larger scale. Also, unlike some things, it does not relate to a perceived behavior (like homosexuality) or a characteristic that could be controlled (like being fat) but relates to things that no-one can change, nor should they want to.

While we can judge all people based on their appearance — blondes, people with glasses etc, racism acts on the group level and is more binary — in group/out group, and directly relates to historical power structures. Thus it is much more powerful within society to say ‘blacks are lazy’ when the divide is black/white and whites have historically been the colonisers/oppressors of blacks, than to say ‘people with glasses are stupid’ because we’ve never really divided power based on whether people wear glasses.
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April 28, 2010 1:30pm
jinpy

Cont…
It’s also OK to criticize cultures because cultures can be argued to have flaws in terms of their success in dealing with different issues, and because culture is not attached to an individual. Racism is not OK because it projects a set of pre-held beliefs (from our cultural background) onto someones skin colour, when in reality we know that such basic physical characterstics have no bearing on someone’s complex personality. Unless, you are simply saying whether you like black skin or white skin, which is not really the sort of thing racism is about. Personally, I like black skin in hot climes and white skin closer to the poles.
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