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February 5, 2010 8:00am by David Farrar

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Chthoniid

Umm, it’s ignored because your inference that coal and gas ought to be averaged is just plain wrong. Such deposits depend on a combination of sedimentary rock-types and available biomass. Sedimentary rock types and vegetation types do not manifest a uniform distribution, hence no averaging in the crust would be predicted.

It may interest some readers to know that coal deposits (of significant size) are also found in the mountains of West Virginia. That would be one, very high low-point 🙂

Fwiw, Noah’s flood was abandoned under the weight of geological evidence two centuries ago. I see no reason to revisit a theory killed off so long ago.
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February 5, 2010 9:15pm
grumpyoldhori

Kris K What the hell is the matter with you god botherers, why are you not out stopping abortions.
Screaming murderer to young women going into abortion clinics will go well.
Hey, if your fairy father is so strong he will protect you from the wrath of the girls’ fathers when you block the doorways to the clinics .
Difficult to find good botherers who really believe these days.
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February 5, 2010 9:34pm
Jack5

New topic for a minute…

Ayn Rand groupies, such as the ZAP folk of Christchurch who pop up in these threads from time to time, shouldbe interested in the following review (link below) of the new biography of Ayn Rand (thanks Arts & Letters Daily for the pointer).

The reviewer of the biography is Anthony Daniels, who more frequently writes under the name Theodore Dalrymple. He gives an interesting analysis of Rand’s style and thought, placing her in the Russian polemicist tradition.

The link:

http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/Ayn-Rand–engineer-of-souls-4385
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February 5, 2010 9:38pm
Angus

Cheers Jack5. Great read.
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February 5, 2010 10:26pm
Angus

“Difficult to find good botherers who really believe these days.”

Well at least those honky God-bothering missionaries helped to dissuade you hori’s from eating each other.
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February 5, 2010 10:29pm
Redbaiter

Yeah thanks Jack.

I posted a link on Cresswell’s site. It was deleted in about 15 seconds. Objectivists- disgusting telephone box sized clique of petty tyrants and mind control freaks.
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February 5, 2010 10:30pm
Angus

Cresswell is a circlejerking objectivist religionist ( and narcissist)
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February 5, 2010 10:32pm
Hurf Durf

Some good news out of Australia.
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February 5, 2010 10:43pm
Angus

G’day Hurf Durf. Where have you been ?!!
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February 5, 2010 10:44pm
Redbaiter

“( and narcissist)”

The only blogger I know with his own photograph on his site. Proudly driving a fucking MG for chrissakes, a car made by British Leyland, a company that symbolized just about everything that was ever wrong with British socialism and IIRC, is now owned by the commie Chinese.
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February 5, 2010 10:44pm
Angus

It suits his elitist proclivities.
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February 5, 2010 10:46pm
Redbaiter

” It suits his elitist proclivities. ”

Yeah, and with his control freak zeal for censorship, he gives the commies at Red Alert a run for their money.

Libertarians- Pfft…what a laff.
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February 5, 2010 10:53pm
Angus

RB, I no longer bother going there. How it ranks at #4 in the blog stats is beyond me (ideological soggy biscuit in the comments threads methinks). How that progressive “Sex In The City” wannabe Cactus Kate gets to #3 is even more perplexing.
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February 5, 2010 10:56pm
Redbaiter

Damn right.
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February 5, 2010 10:58pm
Angus

Red, it’s quite refreshing to exchange a couple of comments outside of Crusader Rabbit without Pete George and those other leg-humping progressive mongrels following you around !
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February 5, 2010 11:13pm
Redbaiter

Quite. At the rate that obsessive Pete George is posting he’ll overtake me soon and its taken me since Kiwiblog was established to get my total. I dunno why such commies feel compelled to post so profusely on Kiwiblog, and its always about what he “thinks” or “feels”. Such whining empty of real content Progressive rubbish. All day every day.
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February 5, 2010 11:25pm
Ryan Sproull

Kris,

The reason I asked was, if you post-dated a cheque to me for 2030, you wouldn’t have to worry about it, right?
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February 5, 2010 11:44pm
Luc Hansen

For Kris K when he checks back in the morning: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/hansen-of-nasa-arrested-in-coal-country/

Briefly, it’s an article on climate hero James Hansen arrested while protesting at mountain TOP coal mining. Aside from hegating you theory above, the practice of such coal mining is environmentally disastrous in two ways:

1. The top is literally removed from the mountain to access the coal and can never be restored.

2. The coal, when burnt; releases CO2 into the atmosphere and is destined, if we burn much more of our coal resources, to plunge us into a world so changed as to presage the end of the human species.

For those who think this is alarming, you are right, it is. If you think it is alarmist, pejoratively, well, that’s just shooting the messenger.

Broadly speaking, it seems humans have been around for 60,000 years, give or take, but we only took off when we entered the Halocene period, which embodied the almost perfect climate for us to thrive. But it is only a blink of an eye in the historical time span of the planet (yes, a little more than 6 odd thousand years), and when it goes, so does most of us.

Kris, you really need to move on from tall tales. If you can’t, then understand that your God may well be lining up another, future species, for His attention. Perhaps He figures He will have better luck second time round.
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February 6, 2010 12:48am
Hurf Durf

Eh, out and about, Angus. Had some problems mounting up since the New Year that have needed sorting. The usual bunk.

lol look how late it is.
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February 6, 2010 2:07am
Pete George

Redbaiter, the whining kettle that keeps boiling over, – your last six posts have been whines. If you removed all your whines from blogs there wouldn’t be much left in the barrel.

Do you belong to the Labour party? Probably not, they have only been whining for the last eighteen months.

Try doing something positive, if you can remember how.
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February 6, 2010 7:46am
dad4justice

How about you do something positive for kiwiblog petey and go put your make up on – then take a long walk on the wild side.
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February 6, 2010 7:48am
Pete George

Plenty of positives in the Black Caps, Ingram starts well, as does McKay, Broom proves himself. Hopefully they and the likes of Oram can measure up when the Aussies get here. I may take a walk to watch them play on Monday.
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February 6, 2010 7:52am
dad4justice

You will be easy to spot in the crowd. That pink dress does you a huge favour.
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February 6, 2010 7:54am
MikeNZ

LUC
we are 2nd time round.
he destroyed all but Noahs family due to the inbreeding with the (gen 6) demons/angels.
Noahs line was the only unsullied line.
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February 6, 2010 8:53am
MikeNZ

# Johnboy (1936) Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

Perhaps DPF should have daily post called General Religious Debate and all the evangelists and anyone who wanted to pray for others could do it there.
Religious freaks who posted elsewhere could get 100 demerits for the first offense and crucifixion for any subsequent offenses. I suspect they would all commit two offenses just for the experience.
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I think it would be a great idea but only if the 100 demerits applied to the non God bothers when they make comments or side swipes that start the whole threads off in the first place.
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February 6, 2010 9:03am
Pete George

That sort of sounds fair Mike, but it gets a bit tricky. Does that mean any mention of things like evolution or science or pregnant women’s rights or hypocrisy would qualify as starting the threads off?
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February 6, 2010 9:09am
Johnboy

Always look on the bright side MikeNZ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
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February 6, 2010 9:11am
MikeNZ

Pete you bring up the very point KrisK has already made before.
worldview is part of one prism and all those areas you mention are adressed by worldview whatever your religion (athiest, agnostic as well) or not.
To exclude it is what the non God bothers want to do as they don’t recognise their own views being shaped by their religious worldview too.

my point is it is all well to penalise God Botherers 100 demerits for mentioning their faith/God/position in light of that but you must penalise the non God botherers who incite, denigrate or condesend toward the faithful in sideswipes or more open slather too.
I suspect that that will get rid of more non God bothers then God botherers but then I might be biased ;-).

So by all means have two GD one GGD (god general debate) and one GD (just general debate) and lets see.
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February 6, 2010 9:50am
MikeNZ

Johnboy
It remains one of the enduring memories of my teens.
Isn’t youtube wonderful.

A year ago I found it and we have collected a load of 70’s hits and other memories since into archive.
a great resource.
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February 6, 2010 9:50am
Johnboy

Glad thats all settled then. I’ll arrange the supply of posts and nails for the crucifixions then.
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February 6, 2010 9:52am
MikeNZ

Good idea and to be fair and impartial I’ll decide who we crucify!
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February 6, 2010 10:13am
Johnboy

Now just hang on a minute there mate.
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