General Debate 18 February 2010

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Pete George

The majority of people joining the various Tea Party groups are fed up with big government, and some don’t like having a black president (almost all Tea Partiers are white). Most mean well with their action. But it is also attracting extremists and radical groups. There are a number of reports of revolution and bearing arms, which could escalate into something major.

One group attending TP gatherings trying to recruit members is the Oath Keepers (members are current and former US military troops), whose motto is “Not on our watch!”, and their stated objective is to resist those actions taken by the US Government that it believes overstep constitutional boundaries.

They have been described as “concerned about a coming dictatorship, concentration camps and a ‘New World Order.’ And they regard President Obama as ‘an enemy of the state.'”

April 19, 1775 – Revolutionary War began
April 19, 1993 – Branch Davidian compound burned to the ground
April 19, 1995 – Oklahoma City bombing
April 19, 2009 – Oath Keepers formed

– Thomas Jefferson once said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” (this quote is used a lot by Tea Partiers)
– William Kostic appeared outside a health-care forum hosted by President Obama last August 2009 in New Hampshire with a gun strapped to his leg and carrying a sign that read, “It Is Time to Water the Tree of Liberty.”
– McVeigh carried out the Oklahoma City bombing with Jefferson’s words adorning his t-shirt.

There is little sign of anything like this in NZ – we don’t seem to have anywhere near the same proportion of extremist nutters.
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February 18, 2010 9:03am
LeftRightOut

Christian students permitted to harrass teacher. teacher fights back via facebook posts and may lose her job.

One MORE reason, as if one were needed, why America is being fucked over by religious bigots.

http://www.news-record.com/content/2010/02/15/article/teacher_may_lose_job_after_derogatory_comments_about_her_students_on_face
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February 18, 2010 9:14am
Brian Smaller

Pete George – why are you obsessed with the Tea party organisation? You sound like the type of guy who would have stood side by side with Cornwallis.
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February 18, 2010 9:16am
cha

Melissa Hussain committed Thought Crime!
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February 18, 2010 9:17am
gazzmaniac

Oh please let it be so!
Anna Bligh’s Queensland Labor government could bring down the Rudd Government according to the Courier Mail.
The Queensland labor government is going to start selling off some of Queensland’s assets (not a bad idea really – perhaps it could happen here) to pay for new infrastructure, and polling suggests that the federal labor government will be punished for it at the election later in the year! One might recall that Queensland was one of the states that the Rudd government won a lot of seats off the coalition – it’s pretty a crucial state for the federal government (well, they all are actually). Meanwhile the Bligh government will have another two years to start selling before they can get voted out. On top of that there is an unpopular labor government in NSW that should be out on its arse before long… interesting times!
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February 18, 2010 9:18am
LeftRightOut

“What’s the harm?” That’s the common refrain when woo is challenged. Homeopathy? What’s the harm? Herbalism? What’s the harm?

The harm is that people die from this shit, and the purveyors go free.

A practitioner of Chinese medicine has pleaded guilty to selling a banned substance to a woman who went on to develop kidney failure and cancer.

(…)

The judge said he accepted Ms Wu had not meant to harm, and that the case highlighted the need for regulation.

Ms Wu has now been given a conditional discharge.

Not measnt to cause harm? But harm was caused by a very stupid and greedy woman preying on the vulnerabilty of the sick and gullible.
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February 18, 2010 9:19am
LeftRightOut

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8520171.stm

Link for story
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February 18, 2010 9:20am
LeftRightOut

gazzmaniac, oddly enough, most Australian voters seem quite capable of distinguishing between State and federal issues. During Howards long, and wasted, Prime Ministership, Labor held most State governments, even while the very same voters kept returning a coalition Federal government. Even Queenslanders can see that.
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February 18, 2010 9:24am
Tauhei Notts

Somebody must do a post explaining why Hone Harawira was given the name “Walking Eagle” by the Native American people.
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February 18, 2010 9:25am
Pete George

Not obsessed Brian, it’s one of many things of interest I keep an eye on. But it does seem to be growing into something major – fifty tea Party leaders have just had a four hour meeting with Michale Steele (but he didn’t join them in their post meeting press conference). Tea Parties will probably have a significant influence on this year’s elections in the US – they are likely to have successes and failures.

There are millions of people there raising their voices, and more than a few openly talking about raising arms. Obama is a catalyst. If it all blows up it could have a significant flow through effect here and around the world.
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February 18, 2010 9:25am
Pete George

Somebody must do a post explaining why Hone Harawira was given the name “Walking Eagle” by the Native American people.

Did Sharples and Turia tell them they had clipped Hone’s wings?
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February 18, 2010 9:27am
cha

And the good news is that the Eustace Mullins, batshit insane anti-semite conspiracy theorist and Paulian hero has fallen off his perch.
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February 18, 2010 9:31am
stephen

significant flow through effect here and around the world.

As in ‘copy cats’ or what?
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February 18, 2010 9:37am
dime

Pete – the dems have plenty of far left whack jobs in their ranks too.

who cares if most tea party people are white!? its not like they are banning other races from joining.
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February 18, 2010 9:45am
Brian Smaller

Somebody must do a post explaining why Hone Harawira was given the name “Walking Eagle” by the Native American people.

Did Sharples and Turia tell them they had clipped Hone’s wings?

Good one Pete George.

Or did the native Americans not get told that the early inhabitants of New Zealand who became known as Maori killed off the prey species of our native eagle and drove it into extinction? Something to do with deep respect and spiritual connection with the natural world I suspect.
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February 18, 2010 9:48am
Johnboy

Walking Eagle eh. Could have been worse. Reminds of that old joke where the little indian boy asks his dad how he named the kids.

When your sister born I look out of tepee and see two clouds in sky so she called “Two Clouds”.

When your brother born I look out of tepee and see a bear so he called “Big Bear”.

Anyway why you ask Two Dogs F***ing?
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February 18, 2010 10:00am
Guy Fawkes

Twitter showing signs of becoming a double edge sword for those politicians trying to use it when perhaps they are ‘tired and emotional’, Bless.

All over UK political blogs.
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February 18, 2010 10:01am
scanner

On a recent trip to the U.S.A. Hone Harawira was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nations in Kitimat, B.C. due to his experiences in handling the New Zealand Indigenous situation in New Zealand

He spoke for almost an hour on his ideas for increasing every First Nation’s present standard of living.

At the conclusion of his speech, the tribes presented Hone with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name – Walking Eagle.

The proud Hone then departed with his entourage, waving to the crowd as he left. A news reporter later asked the chiefs how they came to select the new name given to Hone. They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit, it can no longer fly.

It should be true, even if it isn’t!
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February 18, 2010 10:04am
stephen

Oh dear

…to date he has more than 100 clients, each paying $110 for a 10-year contract ($15 for each additional pet.) If the Rapture happens in that time, the pets left behind will have homes — with atheists. Centre and a partner have set up a national network of godless humans to take on this mission.

http://notesfromthebartender.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/atheist-making-money-out-of-rapture-believers/

Not sure how they’d enforce the contracts, but whatever.
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February 18, 2010 10:05am
Pongo

Why has Tolley created yet another waste of money to monitor and comment on national standards. Harden up and get on with it and put the league tables on line, you keep pandering to the unions and they are making you look daft, wait till this waste of money says something negative (which it will) and you have set yourself up for another bashing from the left. Foolish woman. Oh and try answering a question in parliament without waffling on and preaching ad nauseum, makes you look like you dont know what you are doing. If Mallard who is dumb as ditchwater can get you on the ropes you need to alter your approach.
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February 18, 2010 10:11am
Pete George

Transcripts of statements on GST by Metiria Turei on Back Benches last night:

“Increasing GST will punish the poor”.
“…a transfer of wealth from the poorest families to the richest families.”

“..be hard on tax and make sure that people are paying their fair share, because at the moment the poor are paying more because of their low incomes and fixed incomes than the wealthy are”.
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February 18, 2010 10:15am
cha

who cares if most tea party people are white!? its not like they are banning other races from joining.

Tom Tancredo

The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and “the cult of multiculturalism,” asserting that Obama was elected because “we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country.”

The literacy tests Tancredo suggests should be reinstated.

As used by the states, the literacy test gained infamy as a means for denying suffrage to African Americans. Adopted by a number of southern states, the literacy test was applied in a patently unfair manner, as it was used to disfranchise many literate southern blacks while allowing many illiterate southern whites to vote. The literacy test, combined with other discriminatory requirements, effectively disfranchised the vast majority of African Americans in the South from the 1890s until the 1960s.
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February 18, 2010 10:23am
MikeNZ

LRO & Cha

Kids don’t go after authority figures unless they lose respect or are disempowered.
I think the truth is she drip drip fed these kids her NEA Humanist agenda and this is push back from them.
Sack her and all the rest of her acolyte chums.
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February 18, 2010 10:40am
Shunda barunda

“Christian students permitted to harrass teacher. teacher fights back via facebook posts and may lose her job.

One MORE reason, as if one were needed, why America is being fucked over by religious bigots.”

LeftRightOut just can’t help himself can he, it is not the Christians causing the problems on Kiwiblog it is these nutters with a pathological intolerance of anybody not like them. I think you have a psychological impairment my friend.

In any case in his linked story it is obvious that the teacher is not quite ready for the responsibility involved and should be sacked:

“Hussain wrote on the social-networking site that it was a “hate crime” that students anonymously left a Bible on her desk, and she told how she “was able to shame” her students over the incident. Her Facebook page included comments from friends about “ignorant Southern rednecks,” and one commenter suggested Hussain retaliate by bringing a Dale Earnhardt Jr. poster to class with a swastika drawn on the NASCAR driver’s forehead.

“I don’t defend what the kids were doing,” said Murray Inman, a parent of one of Hussain’s students. “I just couldn’t imagine an educator, or a group of educators, engaging in this kind of dialogue about kids.”

Any teacher upset over such a trivial issue is clearly in the wrong profession, she is the one guilty of bigotry.
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February 18, 2010 10:40am
MikeNZ

cha
a good many white folk would fail a civics and literary test in the US today.
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February 18, 2010 10:40am
MikeNZ

Thanks for reminding me of another reason to never vote Green PG
Metiria Turei
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February 18, 2010 10:42am
MikeNZ

Yeah Pete
There could be some upsets this year as the tea party people are getting organised at local level.
but that probably will be spotty unless they can get good funding and training.
Acorn anyone?
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February 18, 2010 10:46am
cha

There could be some upsets this year as the tea party people are getting organised at local level.
but that probably will be spotty unless they can get good funding and training.

Like this?.

A funny thing about the break-out session “How to Involve the Youth in the Conservative Movement” – not too many young people showed up. Mishelle Perkins, a 44-year-old mother of five children, worries about the paucity of young people at local meetings. The Rutherford County, Tennessee activist came Friday to get some tips. Jordan Marks, executive director of the conservative Young Americans for Freedom, suggested that activists use Facebook, volunteer to speak at high schools (“bastions of liberalism”) and simply do fun stuff that hooks high school and college-age kids. Marks described a bowling party he organized – “Knock Down the Pinheads of Communism.” A strike equaled Mao, a spare, Pol Pot.
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February 18, 2010 10:52am
MikeNZ

ooh cha Thanks for reiterating my last line.
why are you such a piss pot, always looking to denigrate and put down.
Is this just the polourisation or is it just the left?
do you think these people want to spend their family time doing politics?
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February 18, 2010 11:08am
LeftRightOut

Nah Mike, I don’t like Acorns, I prefer hazlenuts.

But I do agree its terrible how Obama is tearing up the Constitution.

GWB did everything he could to preserve and strengthen it, by claiming it didn’t apply to him, by enacting laws that removed freedom and liberty, by holding people without trial, by setting up a total surveillance network, by tarring those as “Not with us, against us” (that’s right, he never did get democracy). Thie list could go on and on, but the teabirtherpartiers don’t seem to care about the loss of liberty, the destruction of the economy, their only concern is “Tha Niggah in the Whitehouse”.

Do you know that teabirtherparties now refer to the Whitehouse as the Woodpile?
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February 18, 2010 11:18am
philu

mike nz said:..@10.42..”..Thanks for reminding me of another reason to never vote Green PG
Metiria Turei..”

mike nz said..@11.08…”why are you such a piss pot, always looking to denigrate and put down.

Is this just the polourisation (sic)..or is it just the left?..”

brilliant..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 11:31am
philu

this is also ‘brilliant’..

http://whoar.co.nz/2010/glenn-beck-loses-103-sponsors-as-his-uk-broadcast-runs-5-days-with-no-ads/

heh..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 11:33am
MikeNZ

LRO
I don’t think they all care about the nigger in the whitehouse.
they have woken up to big govt not listening to them and the fact that the GOP as well as the DEM’s trashing the constitution.

The Birthers have made that point very plain.
The constitution was written in such a way as to protect the people from tyranny and you are absolutely correct in that the GOP have overidden it and peoples “rights” too.
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February 18, 2010 11:38am
Redbaiter

” Pete George – why are you obsessed with the Tea party organisation? ”

He is scared shitless for he recognises the movement as the first rumblings of the civil disorder that tyrants and their acolytes always fear.

The US citizens are at last relating to their constitution and demanding an end to the soft tyranny that has peaked under the thug Obama administration.

Mr. George and others like him (Cha for example) will post the propaganda and lies of their mainstream media friends here as often as possible for the word is out that as Palin is to be personally destroyed, so must the Tea Party movement be discredited.

Attempting to paint them as racists is of course the same old strategy you would expect from such a gang of corrupt and morally bankrupt power seekers, but in fact black people are not under-represented and many have a key role as organisers and promoters.

Pete George and his fellow propagandists overlook of course the blatant racism that got Obama elected, Harry Reid’s racist out bursts concerning Obama, and the fact that many blacks in the US are the victims of the left’s political policies that deny them any chance of self fulfillment.

Black ghettos and the resulting social disorder are the price we have to pay for having a Democrat political party posing as part of the democratic structure but in reality working behind the scenes to bring that structure down and impose a totalitarian one party state. Obama and many others have expressed their disdain for the Constitution. They merely view it as an inconvenient obstruction to their totalitarian ambitions.

The Tea Partiers see it differently.
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February 18, 2010 11:41am
Pete George

“Washington, right now, is broken. I don’t ever recall a time in my career where to get anything done, you needed a supermajority, 60 out of 100 senators.”

“I’ve never seen it this dysfunctional,” he said.

On CBS’s “The Early Show,” Biden said he understood why people were angry. “We get it,” he said. But he said the White House was doing better than Congress.

It’s always someone else’s fault.
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February 18, 2010 11:43am
MikeNZ

Thanks for the link Philu
Interesting read of the lefts boycott of someone who tells the truth and is hurting the DEM’s, if he wasn’t they wouldn’t be actioning him would they?

Privately held Sargento told its media buyer not to put any of its ads in Beck’s show, said a spokeswoman.

“We market our products to people regardless of their political affiliations,” she said. “Yet we do not want to be associated with hateful speech used by either liberal or conservative television hosts.”

Looking forward to this lot bagging CNN’s Anderson 360’s anti nuclear family comments that he makes every now and then.
But what the hell, I hear it, think hes a dick and move on.
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February 18, 2010 11:48am
LeftRightOut

The Tea Partiers see it differently.

Yes, they merely view it as an inconvenient obstruction to their totalitarian ambitions.

Is this what it has become? A choice between totalitarian dictators? The King is dead, long live the King.

Where’s Palin’s birth certificate?

Why did Palin have to go 5 colleges before she found one that would give her a soft graduation?

What’s the real reason she quit as Governor? Corruption? Stupidity? Lack of staying power? All three? Is it true she was negotiating a deal for Alaskan oil with the Russian Mafia?

Who’s the real author of “Going Rogue”?

What was the pork bill in Alaska in her short tenure as Governor? Bridges to nowhere?
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February 18, 2010 11:48am
MikeNZ

yep you’re correct Pete, it always is someones else’s fault isn’t it.
That’s what OB1 keeps saying 🙂
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February 18, 2010 11:51am
Pete George

The Tea Partiers see it differently.

The many Tea Party groups see it quite differently to each other too. There are a lot of common and opposing ideas behind it all. There is currently a lot of scrambling to try and harness the collective power, but there is not much collective happening.

He is scared shitless for he recognises the movement as the first rumblings of the civil disorder that tyrants and their acolytes always fear.

Getting a bit confused? The tyrants are usually the ones instigating the civil disorder. That’s how Hitler got himself into power.

And why would I be scared shitless? Wishful thinking? Watch out, here’s crusader bunny, hoppity hop!
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February 18, 2010 11:51am
LeftRightOut

Pete George (3845) Says:

February 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

It’s always someone else’s fault.

In the US, that is generally true. The founders were so afraid of the dictatorship of a King that they established a three part government – President, Congress, Judiciary with each part being able to veto, or at the least, slow the other two. Congress was then additionally comlicated with the House and the Senate being able to go against each other.

It may have been a way to stiffle a new dictaorship, but it does lead to a constipated government.
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February 18, 2010 11:52am
MikeNZ

I read you LRO, think you’re a dick and move on.
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February 18, 2010 11:52am
cha

The lunatics have taken over the asylum MikeNZ and where the original tea party demonstrators had a valid point, no tax without representation, the 21st century version, who have representation, they can vote, is nothing but a clarion call to all manner of disaffected loons. The opportunity to challenge the status quo, the existing two party system, has been hi-jacked, or, perhaps, astroturfed, by anti intellectual anti science commonsense touting theocratic fundamentalists.
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February 18, 2010 11:54am
philu

“..I don’t think they all care about the nigger in the whitehouse…”

are you just another vile racist rightwinger there..mike nz..?

just lowbrow/knuckledragging racist white trash..?..are you..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 11:57am
MikeNZ

funny you should ask that philu, my sons african.
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February 18, 2010 11:58am
philu

so (doubly) why use ‘nigger’..?

which is just a vile/racist insult..to those it is directed at..

do you call him/his mother ‘nigger’..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 12:01pm
MikeNZ

Philu
I was replying to LRO.
If you’re gonna go all spastic do it somewhere else.

LeftRightOut (143) Says:
February 18th, 2010 at 11:18 am
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February 18, 2010 12:04pm
philu

‘spastic’..?

got one of those at home too..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 12:10pm
LeftRightOut

this is tooooooo funny.

MikeNZ (1215) Says:

February 18th, 2010 at 11:58 am
funny you should ask that philu, my sons african.
philu (7257) Says:

February 18th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
so (doubly) why use ‘nigger’..?

which is just a vile/racist insult..to those it is directed at..

do you call him/his mother ‘nigger’..?

Not EVERY African is BLACK!

But Phil, get off your hobby horse. I wrote“…the teabirtherpartiers don’t seem to care about the loss of liberty, the destruction of the economy, their only concern is “Tha Niggah in the Whitehouse”.

Notice the attempt to write the way a southerner would talk, and most of the teabirtherpartiers seem to be illeducated, bible believing drones from the South or Alaska.
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February 18, 2010 12:11pm
philu

how about jews..?..mike nz..?

are you anti-semitic as well..?

or..will you also fuck them..?

(you are really shaping up as quite a ‘sweetie’..aren’t you..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 12:15pm
Pete George

Most of those who have been to actual tea party protests report that it’s largely a decentralized, middle-class movement focused chiefly on taxes, deficits, and the nature of representation in Washington. (A new CNN poll finds that tea party activists tend to be male, rural, upscale, and overwhelmingly conservative.)

Despite recent successes, the tea party movement is likely to suffer if middle America sees it as a violent rebellion looming in the wings.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0217/Does-tea-party-populism-verge-into-extremism

BILL O’REILLY: Some of these Tea Party people are nuts. They are. They’re crazy. I mean, we sent Jesse Watters down there, and he puts the number at about 10 percent that are just loons, out of their mind. Every group has that.

But the Tea Party people themselves should be careful. Most Americans are not ideologues. They are just folks who want a fair system and a noble country. Every time a Tea Party person threatens to overthrow the government or other nonsense, the brand gets hammered.

That being said, the Tea Party movement is at a disadvantage. There’s no central authority. Every Tea Party group is different. There’s no party platform other than disenchantment with big government.

So many Americans simply oppose those things, and you are not an extremist if you do so; you’re a concerned citizen.

But if you threaten violence, if you traffic in racism, if you call the president of the United States a communist, those are extremist positions.

In the end, the Tea Party will rise and fall on well-thought-out policy and being able to persuade their fellow citizens they have solutions to complicated problems.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586325,00.html
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February 18, 2010 12:20pm
dime

“and most of the teabirtherpartiers seem to be illeducated, bible believing drones from the South or Alaska.”

nice analysis.

the far left seem to be sad little victims of sexual or physical abuse. they want the world to be as miserable as they are. they dont think its “fair” that some people are rich, when they themselves are not.

lets play the stereotyping game all day!
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February 18, 2010 12:32pm
starboard

so (doubly) why use ‘nigger’..?

which is just a vile/racist insult..to those it is directed at..

..its ok whore…filthy racist harawira open the floodgates with his racist white mo/fo comments…we can say nigger now , in fact we can be as racist as we want because harawira has set the benchmark and got away with it…
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February 18, 2010 12:45pm
Murray

Tauhei, because Takahae was too hard to spell and most Americans don’t understand the word Wanking.
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February 18, 2010 1:21pm
gazzmaniac

Whatever happened to RIP?
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February 18, 2010 1:34pm
Pete George

It’s being pointed out one way the Florida Family Policy Council could have found the photo they posted by “mistake” was by searching Google images for: ugly lesbian
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February 18, 2010 1:37pm
JDA

Quite appropriate that Helen Clark should be granted a Doctorate of Law, as she surely spent 9 years doctoring laws to fulfill her socialist ambitions. Credit must go to Leighton Smith for the above summation
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February 18, 2010 1:38pm
MikeNZ

philu
Please take your meds !
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February 18, 2010 1:39pm
MikeNZ

PG
In the end, the Tea Party will rise and fall on well-thought-out policy and being able to persuade their fellow citizens they have solutions to complicated problems.

good point.
It will also be a stalking horse to clear out deadwood and those who don’t fit in the GOP possibly.
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February 18, 2010 1:40pm
Pete George

In the end, the Tea Party will rise and fall on well-thought-out policy and being able to persuade their fellow citizens they have solutions to complicated problems.

If that’s what the Tea Party ends up wanting to do of course. It’s hard to know what direction it will take and who will keep with it.

It could shake up both the GOP and the Dems a bit, but a big unknown will be whether it splits the GOP vote or promotes it – I suspect it will play out differently in different electorates. There will probably be successes and failures.

Same could be said of: Sarah Palin will rise and fall on well-thought-out policy and being able to persuade her fellow citizens she has solutions to complicated problems.

Except that if she just chooses the celebrity route substance doesn’t matter.
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February 18, 2010 2:09pm
wreck1080

I see, Key and English are being very quiet on the tax front, preferring to defer most details until the budget.

English skirted around the topic today…
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/full-tax-alignment-may-not-be-possible-english-118760

The true reason they have not said more is that the Australians have not announced their new tax rates yet.

If Aussie has a 27% company tax rate, then NZ simply has to match or better that. And, we obviously cannot afford to align rates at 27%.

I reckon key and english would like to make the max rate 30%. Probably dropping them over a 3 year period (tax increases are always immediate, cuts are staggered, why is that? ).

I’d also like to see inflation index thresholds. But, the politicians know the average kiwi (skooled locally) has no idea taxes increase every year due to fixed thresholds. Good way to screw the tax payers without them even knowing it.

When you look at the overall picture, Helen Clark and the history teacher (wassis name?) damaged the NZ economy, by increasing taxes and government spending during an economic boom. The country is now less able to dig itself out of the pit now. Thanks Helen, you’re just lucky you are able to escape from the damage you wrought.
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February 18, 2010 2:22pm
Redbaiter

“The opportunity to challenge the status quo, the existing two party system, has been hi-jacked, or, perhaps, astroturfed, by anti intellectual anti science commonsense touting theocratic fundamentalists.”

Of course to portray them this way is the objective of the propaganda plan, and as usual, Cha is doing his best for the puppet masters pulling his strings. (like Pete George)
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February 18, 2010 2:29pm
Redbaiter

Well, as Pete George is also doing his best is what I actually meant.
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February 18, 2010 2:30pm
simo

“A cost-cutting directive from the Government to Radio New Zealand (RNZ) has been taken by unions and opposition MPs as political interference and a blow to the public broadcaster’s ability to maintain standards and independence. The Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union (EPMU) and Public Service Association slammed what they say is a move to threaten the viability of RNZ. “Radio New Zealand is a premiere broadcaster and its ethos of providing a quality service to the public is ingrained in its culture,” said EPMU national secretary Andrew Little. “It is astounding this Government is not just willing to cut that service but threaten and bully the board in order to do so.”

So there was no political interference from the previous Labour government, hello!!!!!! NZ suffered 9 years plus of socialist diatribe, I love this, great to see these suckholes grovelling to justify their existence on the state tit.
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February 18, 2010 5:07pm
nickb

Just got back from an interesting day’s cricket at Seddon.

But three runouts in an innings? Soft soft soft.

And lets see if Guptill, Mcintosh, and McCullum can bully the Australian attack round like they are doing to Bangladesh… me thinks not
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February 18, 2010 5:28pm
Repton

When you look at the overall picture, Helen Clark and the history teacher (wassis name?) damaged the NZ economy, by increasing taxes and government spending during an economic boom. The country is now less able to dig itself out of the pit now.

They also paid off a lot of public debt…
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February 18, 2010 5:37pm
philu

“..Whatever happened to RIP?..”

he got torn..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 18, 2010 6:56pm
Steve

Missed on Kiwiblog by the Duck.

Tracey says:
February 18, 2010 at 2:59 pm
““Roger Douglas is fond of recommending that we follow the Swedish model – but is careful to avoid mentioning that the top tax rates in Sweden are 60%, which means they have money to invest in ensuring every school is well funded and effective, not the winners and losers system he prefers,””

http://www.ppta.org.nz/index.php/resources/pptanews/943-school-choice

ghostwhowalksnz says:
February 18, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Have you noticed Nationals Greek chorus is absent from the comments here for the last week?
Has a fatwa gone out to find more profitable areas for their time

Roflcopter says:
February 18, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Tracey,

I believe we should all spend more time following Swedish models

Spud says:
February 18, 2010 at 3:49 pm
“I believe we should all spend more time following Swedish models” – Growl, me too

Trevor Mallard says:
February 18, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Ok boys that is the end of that line. And I’ve deleted a couple of those that the moderation system caught.

Big Trev deletes again, the thread was going to smut, heaven forbid, we just can’t have that can we?
Or is your Bot potatoe man out of control Trev? or Swedish models not good enough for you?
“Ok boys that is the end of that line” headmaster is in control here
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February 18, 2010 7:08pm
kaya

Repton – Clark and Cullen set this country back 10 years at least. Mind you Key and co are looking to add another 10 years to the bill, under much more difficult circumstances mind you.
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February 18, 2010 7:46pm
Hurf Durf

Another GD ruined by brainsrightout, cha and delirium’s evil nasty teabagger obsession, possibly brought on by their meth and mutual masturbation sessions. Doooooodgy.
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February 18, 2010 8:14pm
gazzmaniac

Time to install RIP again methinks, and not just for philu (who was fairly tame today).
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February 18, 2010 8:47pm
Johnboy

Whats RIP? (Other than the normal meaning of course).
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February 18, 2010 8:51pm
gazzmaniac

Remove it permanently. It’s a plugin for firefox that filters out commenters you don’t like. Look in the GD for mid december I think for details.
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February 18, 2010 8:57pm
Johnboy

Thanks Gazz. 🙂 I’m getting a bit old for this techie shit.
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February 18, 2010 8:59pm
Michael Moore

Who else has seen the case that sprung to widespread US attention about an college student wants “IM GAY” on his Oklahoma car registration plate.

He is suing to force state tax officials to approve his request. Keith Kimmel says he’ll appeal if a judge rules against him.

HOWEVER, can somepone please confirm that this is NOT David Farrar with a Southern American accent…. (watch the video)

http://feeds.newsok.tv/services/player/bcpid4659235001?bctid=66343739001
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February 18, 2010 9:02pm
Johnboy

“HOWEVER, can somepone please confirm that this is NOT David Farrar with a Southern American accent…. (watch the video)”

[DPF 100 demerits for even suggesting I would wear a hat like that]
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February 18, 2010 9:12pm
Michael Moore

I read one of the southern American (Baptists no doubt) anti-homo brigage – who suggested the “Keith Kimmel” looking like Michael Moore (not me) and Susan Boyle got together and had a baby!
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