General Debate 14 February 2010

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gravedodger

Great win for the Crusaders last night. So much more entertaining with the refs new interpretations, very exhausting to watch.
CRFU are getting the message, great curtain raiser and allowing the fans on the pitch at fulltime, brilliant.
Well done Hurricanes and the Chiefs.
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February 14, 2010 10:41am
mikeysmokes

Is it just me or is Paul Holmes a mug?
And did anyone else watch our Aussie neighbours attempt at reconciliation/rugby league last night, I dont think Ive seen Aussies doing that sort of “PC” gesture before.
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February 14, 2010 10:43am
mikeysmokes

Gravedodger are you worried we’ve changed the rules again to suit our ” running rugby at all costs” approach, putting us out of step with the rest of the world with a World cup around the corner?
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February 14, 2010 10:45am
TimG_Oz

What is it with all these kiwi rugby players sporting Taliban style beards? Has there been a mass conversion to Islam in the meantime? (not that there’s anything wrong with that [apologies Seinfeld])
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February 14, 2010 10:46am
mikeysmokes

Its usually a team building exercise TimG_OZ, but they normally dont start till they tour South Africa
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February 14, 2010 10:51am
bchapman

Notice the S14 crowds are very good this year. Imagine how good they would be if they played day games.
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February 14, 2010 10:55am
Barnsley Bill

What is eating Tiger Mallard?
http://gotcha.co.nz/2010/02/14/what-is-eating-tiger-mallard/
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February 14, 2010 10:55am
Redbaiter

Poor effete panty waisted Barnsley, like that other loser Philu, so unable to attract readers their main source of traffic is to link whore on Kiwiblog.
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February 14, 2010 11:03am
Barnsley Bill

Go and read it rodbeater. Be sure to let us know if you ever manage to start your own blog rather than filling those long lonely days taking a shit on everybody elses.
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February 14, 2010 11:09am
Redbaiter

If I ever did have my own blog I would not be such a shameless coward as to link to it here. People obviously don’t need your worthless ranting garbage Barnsley. Get used to it.
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February 14, 2010 11:18am
Yvette

The issue of name suppression takes an odd turn in a Christchurch murder case with media freely publicising the accused’s name while police search for him, but it is now suppressed, so in effect everyone is asked to forget something they already know.
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February 14, 2010 11:19am
big bruv

Given that Redbaiter and D4J are angry, angry men, one wonders if they are related?
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February 14, 2010 11:26am
dad4justice

Yvette the homicidal maniac was plastered all over our TV’s when the keystone cops wanted help from the public locating this hideous creature but some deranged judge on drugs ordered a name suppression for this piece of dog pooh. How can anybody with a braincell trust a judge or crown law.

PS edit – big blouse or Bob Dugan get a backbone you yellow livered coward.

Another example of how badly dysfunctional our justice system is, and with a Simon flower lawyer type jerk as Minister of Justice nothing will EVER change.
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February 14, 2010 11:27am
Redbaiter

What a piffling loser you have revealed yourself to be Bruv. To think I once granted such a small minded bore some actual regard.
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February 14, 2010 11:28am
big bruv

I wish the fishing was this easy in the Hauraki Gulf.
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February 14, 2010 11:30am
dad4justice

Get help big blouse for your deranged and rather creepy pathological disorder you creep. What a limp jerk you are. Got any balls. Your type make me vomit. F off you swine. I am laughing my head off at you. No anger here twister.

Hey blouse they tell me yellow cowards like yourself make good shark bait you dropkick loon.
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February 14, 2010 11:31am
dad4justice

big blouse plays the anger card. I hope the Dugan Family read his insane outbursts.
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February 14, 2010 11:35am
mikeysmokes

So no-one saw the Abbos V Honkys game last night? its the aussies new race relations stunner, how good would a waitangi day footy match be with the Honkeys V the Mowris
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February 14, 2010 11:40am
David Farrar

Okay people play more nicely or the demerits cookie monster will strike
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February 14, 2010 11:41am
dad4justice

David, when are we using our real names on here?
With respect
Peter Burns.
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February 14, 2010 11:42am
philu

“..Given that Redbaiter and D4J are angry, angry men, one wonders if they are related?..”

i have heard whispers that reddy is actually the bastard offspring of d4j..

..(abandoned in tauranga..(shudder..!..’tauranga’..!)

..the ‘genetic-pattern’ is somewhat obvious..

..if looked for..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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February 14, 2010 11:49am
dad4justice

“reddy is actually the bastard offspring of d4j..”

Below the belt but nothing will happen. What a cess pit of cowards.Say that to my face phool.
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February 14, 2010 11:51am
whalehunter

kiwiblog fight club!!??
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February 14, 2010 11:55am
big bruv

Not me whalehunter, I am a five foot two, eight stone weakling.

A lover, not a fighter.
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February 14, 2010 12:00pm
Redbaiter

Fancy the left wing/ communist mainstream media (Times On Line) writing stuff like this about Sarah Palin-

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I’ve never seen anything like it in all my years of reporting,” said Andrea Mitchell, who covered the tour for MSNBC. “All these people queuing at 4am or 5am in freezing mornings across the Midwest. She’s sold more than 2m books. That doesn’t happen easily.”

Last weekend, as the keynote speaker at the first national Tea Party convention of conservative activists in Nashville, Palin lampooned Obama’s 2008 election slogans. “How’s that hopey-changey stuff workin’ out for ya?” she asked the adoring audience, who had each paid $549 (£350) for a ticket. Her declaration that “America is ready for another revolution” provoked a standing ovation. As she left the stage the crowd chanted “Run, Sarah, run!”

The following day she made her debut on the Sunday morning television chat show circuit to announce she was considering a presidential bid. “It would be absurd to not consider what it is that I can potentially do to help our country,” she told Fox News. “I won’t close the door that perhaps could be open for me in the future.”

What seemed like madness a few months ago has suddenly become a distinct possibility, according to commentators. David Broder, columnist for The Washington Post, wrote: “The snows that obliterated Washington in the past week interfered with many scheduled meetings, but they did not prevent the delivery of one important political message: take Sarah Palin seriously.”

“I don’t think you can overstate the extent to which she is the dominant figure in the Republican party today, for 2010 and 2012,” agreed Mark Halperin in Time magazine.
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February 14, 2010 12:10pm
Viking2

World wide web of doubt

* Christopher Pearson
* From: The Australian
* February 13, 2010 12:00AM

The internet is allowing climate change sceptics to gain traction

PUBLIC confidence in the supposedly settled science of global warming is in free fall, especially in the English-speaking world. On Sunday a poll was published in Britain that compared the results from a new BBC phone survey with one conducted in November, the month the Climategate hacked emails were released.

Since November, the proportion of respondents who thought global warming was an established fact largely attributable to human activity fell from 41 per cent to 26 per cent.
more@;
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politic … 5829874281

Hint to the Nats, and of course our esteemed host.
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February 14, 2010 12:40pm
Whafe

Am enjoying the coverage of the Winter Olympics on Prime……
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February 14, 2010 1:08pm
Dirty Rat

or was it B for Brendan ?
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February 14, 2010 1:30pm
Tauhei Notts

What’s neat about this Blog is that if you are wrong lots of people will tell you.
So, here goes.
The Sunday Star Times reports today that life insurance premiums are higher in N.Z. than in Australia. These premiums are set by actuaries. The difference between an accountant and an actuary is that the accountant will look at your shoes when talking to you. But, silly jokes aside;
I understand that it is illegal in our country to quote life insurance premiums on a race basis. So all premiums on New Zealanders are taken across the board. But across the board includes the tangata whenua, whose life style shows up in the actuaries’ calculations. I suggest that that is why our premiums are higher than Australia.
I will be branded a racist to suggest this is just another way that the Maori people hinder development in our country.
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February 14, 2010 1:33pm
big bruv

Whoa who!

Be prepared for a backlash Tauhei.

Even if what you say is true (and i suspect it is) this will not stop the PC police from attacking you.
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February 14, 2010 1:41pm
Dirty Rat

shouldnt you be playing your banjo Brendan ?
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February 14, 2010 1:43pm
big bruv

Got no strings left rat.
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February 14, 2010 1:46pm
Redbaiter

More stuff you won’t hear or read about Palin if you’re a gullible gape jawed mainstream media junky.

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“In sum, Palinism is starting to emerge as a worldview that includes a comprehension of the nature of the war, a respect for the sovereignty of democracies, an understanding of the relationship between high taxes and high unemployment and low taxes and low unemployment, an appreciation for sound money and a strong dollar, and a tendency toward constitutionalism. We’re a long way from endorsing a candidate for the next presidential election, but if this is what is emerging from a woman so many like to set down as a lightweight, it’ll be something to see what basic ideas emerge from her competitors.”

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palinism-ii/86905/
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February 14, 2010 1:49pm
LeftRightOut

Redbirther, a couple of questions

1. What has Palin ever done for NZ?

2. If Palin becomes el presidente, what would she do fo NZ?

3. If Palin couldn’t stick it out as Guv of Alaska, and before that, couldn’t stick it out at college, how long would she last as POTUS?

4. Have you seen her birth certificate?
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February 14, 2010 2:11pm
nickb

oh dear, NZ’s most tired clapped out communist spits the dummy in todays Herald.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10625978&pnum=2

Again like all true communists, McCarten fails to mention the “rich manager” pays far more proportionately in taxes so that those on “Struggle Street” can receive their “entitlements” e.g accomodation supplements, benefits, healthcare, working for families, children’s education, etc etc.

The fact that so many people buy in to this kind of rubbish, as shown by Labour and Green voters, makes me both sad and concerned about the future of New Zealand
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February 14, 2010 2:18pm
LeftRightOut

oh dear, NZ’s most tired clapped out neo-con spits the dummy in todays General Debate.

Again like all true neo-cons, nickb fails to see that if the “rich manager” took less in wages, benefits, bonuses and the like so that those on “Struggle Street” can earn a reasonable, living wage, there would be no need for their “entitlements” e.g accomodation supplements, benefits, healthcare, working for families, children’s education, etc etc.

The fact that so many people buy in to this kind of rubbish, as shown by National and ACT voters, makes me both sad and concerned about the future of New Zealand.
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February 14, 2010 2:30pm
reid

LRO, if that’s how the world really works, then why do union officials and lefty politicians continue to oppress the people they claim to care about, by accepting in many cases, salaries far in excess of Mccarten’s $90k example?

Let’s face it, if you’re correct, then that’s the inevitable conclusion, isn’t it?

Those bastards.
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February 14, 2010 2:47pm
nickb

“Again like all true neo-cons, nickb fails to see that if the “rich manager” took less in wages, benefits, bonuses and the like so that those on “Struggle Street” can earn a reasonable, living wage, there would be no need for their “entitlements” e.g accomodation supplements, benefits, healthcare, working for families, children’s education, etc etc.”

LRO previously I thought you just a troll, but now you prove yourself a moron as well.

The manager is paid more because he is more qualified, harder working, and more valuable to the firm. Perhaps if the person on “struggle street” tried hard to better themselves and improve their life, perhaps one day they could aspire to these heights as well..

But then that would mean no voters for your party, wouldnt it?
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February 14, 2010 2:53pm
dime

just heard Key getting shit on the news. he owns shares in a company that mines uranium.. in australia! its not like the company is in Iran!

apparently key said he will sell the shares if thats what people want???

what the hell???
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February 14, 2010 3:19pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

New Zealand won any Gold Medals at the Winter Olympics yet?
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February 14, 2010 3:34pm
bill hicks

Before the wales scotland test match they had a bbc live report from the late bill mclarens rugby club….The things that happen on live tv.http://videosift.com/video/Scottish-rugby-fan-flashes-on-live-news-report
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February 14, 2010 4:02pm
Hurf Durf

So, Operation Together. The fact that they genuinely believed that Taliban fighters would run away in the face of a massive Coalition offensive, despite being, you know, die-hard fundie Islamists, means that the political class have no fucking idea what they’re talking about when they mention “moderate” Taliban. There may be moderate tribal allies who’ll probably switch sides when flashed enough cash, but “moderate” Taliban? Give me a break.
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February 14, 2010 4:08pm
Viking2

Graeme Burton challenges TV portrayal
By TIM HUME – Sunday Star Times
Last updated 10:25 14/02/2010

Double murderer Graeme Burton has taken umbrage at his portrayal in a recent episode of television series Beyond the Darklands, and is lodging a complaint with the Broadcasting Standards Authority.

Fronted by forensic psychologist Nigel Latta, the series profiles the country’s worst criminals, examining their backgrounds to attempt to explain how they came to commit their crimes. The Burton episode, which followed his path from a Hutt Valley childhood to his murder of father-of-two Karl Kuchenbecker during a 2007 shooting rampage, screened last month.

Burton’s lawyer, Peter Tomlinson, said the complaint would be lodged within a few days. Burton had watched the programme in jail, he said, and was “not concerned with the parts that were true”.

“But there are various factual matters that are inaccurate, just wrong, and a couple of serious ones.” He said he could not elaborate on the substance of the complaint without Burton’s permission.

The episode was initially meant to screen during the show’s 2009 season, but was pulled two days before its scheduled run when Burton’s lawyers sought an injunction.

They said the show would compromise Burton’s impending trial for stabbing Headhunter gang member and fellow Auckland Prison inmate Dwayne Marsh in the heart with a sharpened rod.

Burton was found guilty of attempted murder last November, following an unsuccessful defence that held that he had just wanted to hurt his victim, not kill him. He will be sentenced on Friday.

Philly Iles, the executive director at Screentime, which produces Darklands, said she could not comment on the substance of Burton’s complaint until it had been received. “We’ll see what he has to say for himself.”

It is not the first time subjects of the show had voiced their objections. Jules Mikus, who murdered six-year old Teresa Cormack in 1987, contacted Screentime with concerns during the production of the show about him.

And last year, RSA triple murderer William Bell complained to the BSA about his portrayal in Darklands, claiming the show had breached standards of privacy, accuracy and fairness, and rebutting claims he had been abused by members of his family and had worked as a prostitute as a teenager.

The BSA did not uphold his complaint.

So who funds these boreholes to make these complaints?
Better question, why the fuck do they get the privileged of having a tv. Lock them in a dark room and let them go fucking mad in the head. Oopps , that won’t happen they already are.
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February 14, 2010 4:57pm
MikeNZ

LRO

4. Have you seen her birth certificate?

I bet that she will bring it to the first debate to show everyone shes got nothing to hide.

Unlike Obama who has spent over $1million US dollars hiding his info!
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February 14, 2010 5:24pm
MikeNZ

Viking
I want to know why they shot him in the leg and not centre mass?
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February 14, 2010 5:25pm
LeftRightOut

Hey Mike, wanna have a go at the other 3 questions? Come on,its Sunday, time to think, if you can.
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February 14, 2010 5:33pm
MikeNZ

LRO
Come on,its Sunday, time to think, if you can.
You don’t know me so what you say isn’t a joke as we’re not confidents nor friends.
So stop being rude.

1. What has Palin ever done for NZ?
I’m happy to wait for her becoming president and inviting her and her family over again.

2. If Palin becomes el presidente, what would she do fo NZ?
What do we have to offer apart from a previous liar for PM and a flip flop Pm now who can’t be trusted.
The real question is what do we have to offer the USA and the world? ( a liar and cheat at the UN doesn’t cut the mustard).

3. If Palin couldn’t stick it out as Guv of Alaska, and before that, couldn’t stick it out at college, how long would she last as POTUS?
You are a liar and a cheat so fck off until you can tell the truth.
a. AS YOU KNOW – She stood down because the bullsht lawsuits (by people like you) were costing her state millions and she had $500k of legal bills to pay because of frivolous lawsuits.
b. AS YOU KNOW – She paid her own way through college by studying and working alternately to get her degree without leaving a big debt.
c. She will make a good president as she will want a good team of American patriots (not wankers that occupy most of the top of the DEMs and GOP now).
Whether she makes it in 2012 or 2016 (better) I don’t care, we all need leaders of principle and integrity not that the NZ Labour party knows what that means.

Lastly,
Have you read her book, do you actually know anything about her life through her eyes and story?
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February 14, 2010 5:49pm
LeftRightOut

1. So when did Palin visit you?

2. If you think political leaders are all a nation has to offer then you are a very sick and sad fuck and I feel sorry for you.

3. So Palin lied about there being no substance to the stories, there was no investigation and her hands were clean? And why did she need to attend 5 different colleges before she found one that would pass her? Was that a leftist conspiracy too?
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February 14, 2010 6:02pm
Rachael Rich

Why is Q & A ALWAYS used as a leading news item at 6pm.

Watching it this morning I knew what would be the lead item!

Also, Phil Goff is a tool!!
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February 14, 2010 6:04pm
Hurf Durf

Brainsrightout, your Paylun obsession is quite concerning. Consult a doctor. And a lobotomist.

Phool Goof whining that Key owns shares in some company that does uranium mining. Oh no! The horrors! This anti-nuclear ludditry shit pisses me off big time.
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February 14, 2010 6:04pm
Rachael Rich

Too right Hurf.

Also, solo mothers whining that the government does nothing for them pisses me off too. That women must get about $1000 bucks a week for 5 kids. And it is not the government paying for it, it is you and me. Ungrateful cow.

It will just take 200,000 people like me (the hated top 10%ers) to leave this country and she will definately have something to worry about when that happens.
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February 14, 2010 6:10pm
MikeNZ

Rachael
Its time people had to rely on their own family and friends for their benefit not the top 10% of taxpayers.
Then we’ll have sense and order coming back into the land as they have to think through and justify their life decisions with people who know them not some amorphous ATM machine of OPM.
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February 14, 2010 6:14pm
MikeNZ

LRO
your ideology leaves you ignorant.
This woman actually thinks about the consequences.
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palinism-ii/86905/?print=2721216621
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February 14, 2010 6:15pm
MikeNZ

LRO
I just love the internet but wading through the leftists crap that is the media is such a slog as I refuse to only look at conservative info.
here on the middle east the truth of why there will be NO PEACE.
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3959.htm

and why the PA and the Arab leadership is happy to leave their people struggling for decades.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=168375

what sort of leadership fetes the people who enable women’s rape to do this.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5653088.ece

and encorages their own to do this
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3847179,00.html
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1149079.html

will OB1 get real or is he stuck in his leftist ideology?
http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c55_a17852/Editorial__Opinion/Opinion.html
I don’t think we can reply on old Blighty to help him.
http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/26775/englands-not-so-pleasant-aspect

and certainly not the UN
http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=0&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=378&PID=1857&IID=3377&TTL=New_Revelations_About_the_UN_Goldstone_Report_that_Seriously_Undermine_its_Credibility
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1149044.html

Lebanon has just voted to go back to the stone age next time hizbullah attacks Israel.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gCHfAWAy_fYeedrL-WswqiDnyzyQD9DPBNQO5

maybe it would be better for the world if all the arab middle east was glass?

Goodnight.
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February 14, 2010 6:24pm
MikeNZ

or just Israel?
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February 14, 2010 6:29pm
MikeNZ

But would that stop the jihad?
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February 14, 2010 6:30pm
Steve

Graeme Burton challenges TV portrayal,

Why does the maggot get this?
“Burton’s lawyer, Peter Tomlinson, said the complaint would be lodged within a few days. Burton had watched the programme in jail, he said, and was “not concerned with the parts that were true”.

Who fucking cares? This maggot Burton has no rights. He killed twice. ACC gave him a $10K leg. They should have cut the other leg off instead.
Making plenty of money out of this Peter Tomlinson? “Pathetic” is my opinion of you pal.
Graeme Burton should be shot with a ball of his own shit.
Oh he has rights??? fuck off
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February 14, 2010 6:32pm
Southern Raider

Number one story on the news.

John Key owns about $3K worth of shares in a gold mining company that has recently merged with a Uranium mining company and Labour is going off.

Like a multimillionaire would know exactly what shares he holds and more importantly every change that those companies make.

How weak is the news in this country?
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February 14, 2010 7:22pm
Southern Raider

Just seen a new low in left wing protesting.

About 200 protesters smashing windows and cars in a rampage through Vancouver against the Olympics.

And where did the protesters come from? Yes climate change, anti globalisation etc groups.

What the hell do these pricks have against the Olympics and why do they think they can just run amok and get away with it. Only 7 were arrested. They should have shot the lot of them.
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February 14, 2010 7:27pm
alex Masterley

3K? From the way espineless was going on you would have thought he had a majority shareholding or something. Mining stocks are seen by professional investors as something you chuck the loose change at and if they come off well and good, pocket the profit and get on to the next thing. If they don’t then there is no loss.
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February 14, 2010 7:28pm
Pete George

“Sarah Palin will have to choose to be either the leader of a movement or the leader of a nation. She can’t be both,” said Republican strategist Alex Castellanos. “Right now, she is a figure like McGovern or Goldwater, two candidates who led the most intense movements in our country’s political history, but who couldn’t win the middle.”
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February 14, 2010 7:58pm
Pete George

Police probe online campaign against principal

Senior Sergeant Pete Stills said the comments could be defamatory, offensive and seen as inciting someone to commit violence. “People need to be very careful about what they say in a public domain.”

Facebook critics of principal to be prosecuted

Commentators who joined in a vicious online attack against a new Christchurch principal will be prosecuted, police say.

Burnside High School principal Warwick Maguire has spoken to police and those who posted defamatory comments on social networking site Facebook would face criminal charges and civil investigation, senior sergeant Pete Stills confirmed.

“Some of the comments are clear criminal offences. They are clear threats made toward Mr Maguire that cannot be ignored.”
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February 14, 2010 8:14pm
dad4justice

What a load of big blouse crap Petey Gal – have the silly keystone cops caught the Kahui baby killer yet!
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February 14, 2010 8:20pm
Komata

So the PM has shares in a gold miner that has merged with a uranium mining company. So what? To quote DL -‘Nothing to see, move along’

What I would like to know is who ‘discovered’ this sensational bit of news, why Mike Williams didn’t find it on his ‘dirty-Landry’ trip, and, most importantly, why the MSM has never bothered to make public the investments the Mr Goff (the ‘Peoples Champion’ and the Upholder of the ‘Poor and Oppressed Workers’) has.

Me-thinks another bit of rampant socialist hypocrisy is evident – but, of course, because Mr. Goff is the darling of the socialist MSM we never will be told will we?

Now if HE had ‘doubtful’ shares, wouldn’t that be ‘interesting’. . . ?
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February 14, 2010 8:23pm
Hurf Durf

But the Sierra Club wrote to the PM to say how shocked they were at some enviro-bollocks was being ended or something!

And here I was thinking the NZ left preferred to tell the evil Yanqui imperialists to fuck off.

Mine baby mine!
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February 14, 2010 8:31pm
Inventory2

Southern Raider said “Number one story on the news.

John Key owns about $3K worth of shares in a gold mining company that has recently merged with a Uranium mining company and Labour is going off.”

No mate; the number one story on the news was that the the wonderful, talented, good looking investigative reporters from TVNZ (with unblemished skin and perfect teeth) discovered that Key had shares in a vile, nuclear weapon producing uranium mining company. Upon confronting him with the evidence, he immediately resigned in shame.

OK – maybe that’s stretching things just a little, but TVNZ needs to get the message that its role is to REPORT the news, not to concoct it.
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February 14, 2010 8:41pm
Whafe

When is Paul Henry due back on Breakfast?
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February 14, 2010 8:50pm
Hurf Durf

Fuck, phool, you’re a planet killer. I hope you’re pleased with yourself.

Becoming a vegetarian can do more harm to the environment than continuing to eat red meat, according to a study of the impacts of meat substitutes such as tofu.

The findings undermine claims by vegetarians that giving up meat automatically results in lower emissions and that less land is needed to produce food.

The study by Cranfield University, commissioned by the environmental group WWF, found that many meat substitutes were produced from soy, chickpeas and lentils that were grown overseas and imported into Britain.

It found that switching from beef and lamb reared in Britain to meat substitutes would result in more foreign land being cultivated and raise the risk of forests being destroyed to create farmland. Meat substitutes also tended to be highly processed and involved energy-intensive production methods.

Whafe: March 1st.
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February 14, 2010 8:53pm
reid

“Some of the comments are clear criminal offences. They are clear threats made toward Mr Maguire that cannot be ignored.”

Are they real or are they childish teenage blow-hardery.

Secondly does the medium they used have clear boundaries and rules clearly spelt out in suitable terms for the 13-17 year-old mind or is it just a case of childish enthusiasm, pushing the boundaries in much the same way as Huck Finn did all those years ago? And what harm did Huck ever do?
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February 14, 2010 8:55pm
Whafe

Thanks Hurf, appreciated….

Will this little extended break have broken his spirit so to speak?
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February 14, 2010 9:08pm
dad4justice

reid – Poor Mr Maguire the keystones will just love arresting school boys meanwhile the Kahui baby kiiler is doing another P session! Banjo got another new hammer!
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February 14, 2010 9:08pm
Viking2

Sunday, 14 February 2010
More on the tale of two offices

Gosh a week’s a long time in politics. But I haven’t forgotten that last week I pointed out that there was a big problem with National List MP Jackie Blue’s explanation to the Herald about Joan Nathan’s job drying up. You may recall that Blue had told the Herald that Nathan’s job ended because of an office merger with new National MP Sam Lotu-Iiga, when actually they both still have separate offices, in different suburbs.

more@; http://thehandmirror.blogspot.com/2010/02/more-on-tale-of-two-offices.html
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February 14, 2010 9:09pm
Ryan Sproull

Hurf Durf,

Clearly that article does not say that becoming a vegetarian is worse on the planet than eating meat, except in its sensationalist attention-craving opening lines.

It says that tofu and similar highly processed meat substitutes “could” increase the land necessary to supply the diet.

It also says that one of the reasons increased vegetarianism in the UK could prove a problem for the environment is that the UK would import more meat, probably from countries that don’t grow cattles as cleanly as they do in the UK. In other words, if enough Brits switched to vegetarian diets, the environmental damage caused by the remaining meat-eaters would increase.

That’s a bit like saying that if enough people in the US quit smoking, American tobacco plantations would shut down and American smokers would have to start smoking far less healthy imported cigarettes – and then blaming this sudden drop in cigarette safety on the non-smoking movement.

Nothing in the article disputes that becoming vegetarian without replacing all of your meat with highly processed “meat substitutes” reduces the amount of arable land required to supply your diet. And the fact is, most vegetarians do not simply replace their steak with big slab of soy-based Not Steak.

Then again, maybe Phil eats nothing but highly processed soy-based meat substitutes.
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February 14, 2010 9:58pm
Hurf Durf

Correction: highly processed soy-based meat substitutes and methamphetamine.
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February 14, 2010 10:39pm
MikeNZ

can’t sleep.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/a_further_inquiry_into_obamas_1.html
I don’t think this is going to go away, just as well Hilary Clinton is getting on the job experience I think.
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February 14, 2010 11:20pm
Luc Hansen

Mike, I will say this as politely as I can:

you are a fucking idiot!

Arnie for president! Right?
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February 14, 2010 11:51pm
Brian Smaller

Arnie for president! Right?

He is a white Obama – big spending, big government, big ego.

They could almost be twins.
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February 15, 2010 6:38am
MikeNZ

LUC
you’ve read me for enough time, why would I want a democrat liar in the white house?
and please don’t tell me he is a republican, he’s not hes a businessman democrat.
brian is correct.
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February 15, 2010 7:55am
Kris K

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