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January 28, 2010 9:26am by David Farrar

General Debate 28 January 2010

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Steve

Oh shit, here we are pas 6pm and the devil dodgers are still talking shit.
Get a chatroom ffs.
General is general, not just religious debate
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January 28, 2010 6:23pm
Johnboy

Forget the crazy christians folks the new salvation has arrived to save us all and its prophet is Fool Goof.

Here is what he said on suffering the little children to come to him as recorded in the scriptures according to Eddie from the book of Standard.

“Phil Goff has just delivered his first major speech of the year to state what Labour stands for and where it is going.

I have to say, I’m impressed. You really should read it.

It sets out a clear agenda for Labour and that agenda is firmly rooted in Labour’s deepest principles – decent pay for a fair day’s work, good public services, a more equal society, community responsibility, and saving children from the conditions of deprivation and poverty that lead to lives of crime and underachievement. ”

Halelujah for we are saved sayeth the Fool!!!!

Hereth be the Fool text.

http://www.thestandard.org.nz/the-many-not-the-few/#comments
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January 28, 2010 6:51pm
dad4justice

Johnboy the standard is retard troll farm. Why bother with the insane creeps?
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January 28, 2010 6:55pm
Johnboy

Knowing ones enemy dad is the secret to ultimate victory.
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January 28, 2010 6:57pm
Kris K

Chiz 5:33 pm,

Kris k:The blood type of a child is determined by the father. The mother only provides nutrients and the removal of waste from the infant in her womb. Thus Christ, to have no taint of sin, had to have no earthly father – hence the virgin birth, and His being conceived of the Holy Spirit.

Blood type is determined by both parents kris.

While both parents influence blood type at the genetic level, the infant can have a different blood type to his mother. His blood/lymphatic systems are unquely his own and are independent to his mother’s. And so even though he gets nutrients, etc via his mother, there is no blood transference between mother and child. Thus he does not share his mother’s sin nature.

There is a scientific justification for the father determining the blood type of the child, but I can’t lay my hands on it at the moment.
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January 28, 2010 6:58pm
Dirty Rat

Im tryng still to find out what happened to the first page of the bible.

“all characters portrayed in this bo……………………………”
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January 28, 2010 7:33pm
big bruv

ha ha ha
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January 28, 2010 7:38pm
Guy Fawkes

Meanwhile in the UK, a certain Couple well known to Kiwis gets some recognition.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/benedict-brogan/7086643/How-the-charity-of-a-peers-wife-will-propel-Cameron-to-power.html
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January 28, 2010 8:45pm
Komata

So the wonderful Mr. Goff has said that labour qwantz: ‘decent pay for a fair day’s work, good public services, a more equal society, community responsibility, and saving children from the conditions of deprivation and poverty that lead to lives of crime and underachievement. ”

Me thinks a ‘Tui’ response is definitely called for – an obviously Helen couldn’t make her usual phone call.

But has anyone noticed the the person making these statement is a former teacher – a person who has not ‘worked’ in the usual ‘labouring-type’ sense, a person who has actually been a public servant, a person who’s avowed intention is to UNDERMINE New Zealand society, and to reduce it to the lowest level possible, to take responsibility FROM the community and keep it to itself.

And as for ‘saving children from the conditions of deprivation and poverty that lead to lives of crime and underachievement’. Evidently the fact that his government did everything possible over nine years to DESTROY families seems to have completely escaped him.

One day he may see the error of his ways and admit his responsibility, but somehow I don’t think this will happen any time soon – the arrogance is simply too ingrained.

Ah well, one can but dream. . .

Perhaps it’s ‘political amnesia’, but as Labour encouraged a climate of ‘no responsibility’ perhaps its not so surprising..
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January 28, 2010 8:54pm
Repton

No, because a belly button is the scar left behind from the umbilical cord.

Well, I asked because I read a book with an essay on the subject a few years ago. Apparently it was a subject of much debate amongst Christian scholars in (I think) the middle ages. The issue is this: they knew, of course, that the belly button is the scar where the umbilical cord drops off. And Adam was created, not born, which means he shouldn’t have had one. But man was created in the image of God. So if Adam was in the image of God, and Adam had no belly button, then it means every man who has come after was _not_ in the image of God.

But I’m not sure how, or if, the debate was resolved. So since Kris is here answering questions on theology, I thought I might see if he has an answer.
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January 28, 2010 9:24pm
big bruv

Have a gander at this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/3272744/US-woman-accused-of-having-sex-with-son

Now ask yourself what punishment the low life parent would have received if it had been the father having sex with his daughter.
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January 28, 2010 9:30pm
Repton

Now ask yourself what punishment the low life parent would have received if it had been the father having sex with his daughter.

I think you may have misread the article. The woman received 1 year probation for violating narcotics laws but she has not yet been sentenced (or even convicted, or possibly even charged) for having sex with her son.
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January 28, 2010 10:08pm
Alan Wilkinson

An excellent article here on the real issues affecting coral islands. Greenpeace deserve to be sued for the disgraceful way they have misrepresented the science to the islanders.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/27/floating-islands/
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January 28, 2010 10:31pm
pjje

I have only just begun contributing here, and I quite enjoy it. But it is already clear to me that it calls for real facility, or a good deal of time. For the estimable Mr Farrar, it doubtless has professional advantages, so that it is worthwhile to devote time to it or to pay others to do so. Other participants may be retired, or beneficiaries, or maniacal in some way. And I have to say that they perform a useful service who trawl the internet and serve interesting nuggets up here. It even reflects the utopian stories and forecasts that I read in my youth, of a future of plenty where one might choose whether to work.

But so often it seems like talkback radio.
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January 28, 2010 10:50pm
Guy Fawkes

The ‘Watermelons’, ‘Marxists’, and scamming opportunists are having a bit of a tough time at the moment.

Summed up in a very pragmatic way here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/dailypolitics/andrewneil/

EVEN the BBC is waking up to the utter FRAUD of the weirdy Beardy ones.
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January 29, 2010 1:25am
chiz

Kris k:While both parents influence blood type at the genetic level, the infant can have a different blood type to his mother. His blood/lymphatic systems are unquely his own and are independent to his mother’s. And so even though he gets nutrients, etc via his mother, there is no blood transference between mother and child. Thus he does not share his mother’s sin nature.

There is a scientific justification for the father determining the blood type of the child, but I can’t lay my hands on it at the moment.

The reason you can’t find it is because it doesn’t exist. Blood types in the ABO typing system are determined by both parents. There will be cases where the mother passes on the neutral allele to the offspring and it blood type will be determined by the father but there will be just as many cases where the father will pass on the neutral allele to the offspring and its bloodtype will therefore be detemined by the mother.
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