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EPMU

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/20/cru_climate_hack/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6926325.ece

E-mails allegedly written by some of the world’s leading climate scientists have been stolen by hackers and published on websites run by climate change sceptics.

The sceptics claim that the e-mails are evidence that scientists manipulated data in order to strengthen their argument that human activities were causing global warming.

The hackers appear to have accessed servers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit.The university reported the incident to police yesterday after the leak was discussed online across the world. The files were apparently first uploaded on to a Russian server and then mirrored across the internet.
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November 21, 2009 4:53pm
starboard

..at the end of the day whore no one cares a rats arse about your opinion on the march…you are bottom feeder who doesnt contribute……you are a taker..you take from everyone…be it robbing pharamacies or robbing the tax payer…leech-whore..
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November 21, 2009 4:55pm
Johnboy

The University of East Anglia is of course one of the worlds great seats of learning.

On a par I should think with Victoria or The University of Waikato.
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November 21, 2009 5:00pm
philu

aahh..!

feel the love..!

eh..?

(say after me now star-bored..)

‘1,000 ‘marchers for democracy’..

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 5:05pm
Inventory2

Chthoniid said “If you want to be more like me, I suggest giving up this drug thing and moving onto something less girly. Single-malt whisky perhaps.”

Wash your mouth out good Sir – single-malt whisky is far too precious to be wasted on the likes of Phillip Ure. Anyway, all that dope has likely as not munted his taste-buds 😉
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November 21, 2009 5:09pm
reid

Say after me, phil:

“A total of 1,622,150 votes were cast with 87.6 percent in favour of repealing the Bradford/Liarbore state-sponsored commie intrusion into our private lives”
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November 21, 2009 5:11pm
Nomestradamus

Chthoniid:

Tut tut Phool, three responses to my ‘you want to be like me- a real environmentalist’ gambit says otherwise. What happened Friday morning? Were you still upset and crying into your pillow? It’s okay to admit you cry- we all know you’re a girly vegan.

Phool is an abashed copy-and-paste merchant. You, on the other hand, take original photos and generously share these with the Kiwiblog audience. The fact that you have an obvious talent for cutting-edge photography, not to mention genuine environmental credentials, obviously gets to Phool – his whining is nothing more than sour grapes.
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November 21, 2009 5:12pm
Put it away

Nome – Yup I guess phool’s rise to blog superstardom has been going slower than he expected. I see that not a single visitor has commented on any of his posts since November 2nd. Can you imagine how depressing that would be to a sane person ? To feverishly work your fullstop key to the bone every day, searching for other peoples work to copying and paste with all your might, hopefully checking your site for some form of acknowledgement of your genius only to realise that absolutely no-one has cared enough to comment, AGAIN, for the nineteenth day in a row. Sad indeed.
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November 21, 2009 5:13pm
Johnboy

“not to mention genuine environmental credentials, obviously gets to Phool – his whining is nothing more than sour grapes.”

Hear hear! 🙂
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November 21, 2009 5:14pm
getstaffed

CRU Hack –

There’s evidence of dataset falsification, where Phil Jones tells a colleague that Steve MacIntyre (ClimateAudit.org) had discovered they’d switched Tree ring data (used for estimating past temperatures)

There’s an increasing sense that Phil Jones is waging war against the skeptics as the emails date closer to the present. (‘but I would ignore the so-called skeptics until they get to the peer-review arena‘)

There’s evidence of stacking peer review panels with like-minded scientists while excluding others (‘the last two on the list (w/ question marks) would be unwise choices because they are likely to cause conflict than to contribute to concensus and progress‘)

He cheers the death of a leading climate change skeptic. And there’s more …
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November 21, 2009 5:15pm
EPMU

JohnBoy, apparently it is up there in climate change research terms.
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November 21, 2009 5:17pm
Hurf Durf

5,000 marchers, phool. 5,000.

there are bigger things to worry about..

Yeah, like what we’re going to do with the pencil-necked bastards who bludge thousands off the benefit in the middle of a recession.
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November 21, 2009 5:21pm
philu

no hurf..1,000 marchers..1,000..

read it..and weep..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 5:23pm
Hurf Durf

Hang on, guys. We need to make sure Phool isn’t posting from a hidden Blackberry in a jail cell.

One person was arrested for being drunk and disorderly and attempting to leap onto the makeshift stage erected across from the Auckland Town Hall.
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November 21, 2009 5:24pm
getstaffed

Stuff headline still reads “Hundreds march over government inaction”, but they’ve updated the text to 5,000. Must really piss them off to report the truth, rather than their version of the truth.
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November 21, 2009 5:26pm
starboard

..and your website takes it up the arse whore…I viewed it and now I feel dirty and violated… you say the yanks wana buy in !!!….a big fat ppfffttt !!
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November 21, 2009 5:26pm
Steve

The bloggers are picking on Phool.
Go have another suck on the bong Phool, you will feel better.
Stack it up real good and destroy the few brain cells you have left. The spring oil is good this year I hear.

Quardle oodle ardle doodle

Whore(brain.fucked.forever.com)
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November 21, 2009 5:26pm
Nomestradamus

Phool:

(say after me now star-bored..)
‘1,000 ‘marchers for democracy’..
eh..?

(Say after me now Phool)
Bottom 1% of global blogs ranked by Technorati..
eh..?
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November 21, 2009 5:27pm
Johnboy

And Phool gets pissed and losses the plot on one beer as we know. Ask Cactus Kate!
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November 21, 2009 5:28pm
Hurf Durf

So, getstaffed, Stuff says 5000.

Private sector Herald says 4000-5000.

Private sector TV3 says 4000-5000.

Public-private TVNZ says 3000.

Public sector only RNZ says 1000.

Hmm…

You’ve gotta love the scumbag “counter”-protesters at the head of the march too. Stay classy, leftards. Maybe kill yourselves afterwards too.
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November 21, 2009 5:29pm
Banana Llama

A hundred dollars per person Hurf? that is about a days worth of laboring so much for being a fizz then, i guess it is hard for the usual suspects to comprehend.
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November 21, 2009 5:30pm
philu

i don’t drink alcohol..johnboy..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 5:31pm
Johnboy

Shit but what the fuck would we talk about if Phool wasn’t here?

Hey DPF can you put Phool up for a New Years honour?

What with your connections and all. –nudge nudge wink wink —–say no more!
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November 21, 2009 5:32pm
philu

no llama..

$500 per marcher..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 5:32pm
Hurf Durf

Phool enjoys creating his own alternate reality built around marijuana and social justice.
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November 21, 2009 5:34pm
Johnboy

i don’t drink alcohol..johnboy..

No. You just hold up liquor stores phool. Never drink on the job eh—–?
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November 21, 2009 5:35pm
Hurf Durf

No alcohol for phool, just the occasional speedball. Gotta stay clean, you know.
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November 21, 2009 5:36pm
Banana Llama

No Phillu

500000 ÷ 5000 = ¿¿¿¿
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November 21, 2009 5:42pm
Steve

DPF is a statistician. He compares idiots with normal people.
That is the only reason you are still here Phool
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November 21, 2009 5:43pm
Steve

Gotta go
Scotch fillet steak was on special and now it’s on the BBQ.
Just the steak, don’t want to spoil the taste with any fancy seasoning.
Gimme my steak!!
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November 21, 2009 5:46pm
Johnboy

“DPF is a statistician. He compares idiots with normal people.
That is the only reason you are still here Phool”

Whuck.

I never knew that.

I think I better whuck off now before DPF decides which group I am in.

See you later (never) folks!

Byeeee!
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November 21, 2009 5:48pm
Chthoniid

Shit but what the fuck would we talk about if Phool wasn’t here?

women, taxes, the economy, beer, whisky*, food, fishing, cars, inflation, trade policies, international relations, rugby, soccer, hockey, cricket, swimming, cycling, boating, travel, local government, roading, the contribution of the thong-bikini to NAFTA etc.

* Generally I’m quite partial to single malts done in the Island style. They’ve got a proper bite and flavour.
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November 21, 2009 6:01pm
Johnboy

Come to think of it you are dead right there Chthoniid. I have become single-focused.
The world is huge and it it does not involve Phool.
Perhaps we could create a new begining on DPF’s blog.
A beginning where men were free and did not rely on Phool for topics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg&feature=related

Lumberjacks –now they were real men!
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November 21, 2009 6:17pm
philu

“..Public sector only RNZ says 1000..”

yes..maybe they walked down the hill..and actually counted them..

i was there..

and any claim of 5,000..is a joke..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 6:35pm
Hurf Durf

Maybe cos you told them.

And no one has any faith in your maths skills, so I take your counting skills with a large pinch of salt.
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November 21, 2009 6:37pm
philu

now you are just making yrself look sillier than usual…hurf..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 6:42pm
Steve

10 years in standard 2 Phool?
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November 21, 2009 6:53pm
Manolo

I suggest we give the cops Whoar’s address, so the bludger’s kitchen can be raided and the scumbag sent to Paremoremo. It would be the best Christmas present Kiwiblog readers could get.

Those in favour, say yes.
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November 21, 2009 7:01pm
philu

the frothers are really getting worked up/engaged..

is it a full moon..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 7:06pm
Hurf Durf

Quardle oodle ardle woodle.

You fed your kid yet, or is he still curled up in a ball in the corner, starving?
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November 21, 2009 7:08pm
Angus

“You fed your kid yet, or is he still curled up in a ball in the corner, starving?”

Nah, phil left the kid home alone in dereliction of his taxpayer sponsored duties. The boy’s probably hangin’ out in a bus shelter sniffin’ glue or tagging someone’s fence.
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November 21, 2009 7:13pm
big bruv

Who cares how much the march organiser spent per person, it was HIS FUCKING MONEY!.

Bloody pinko’s, the bastards just cannot handle a hard working Kiwi making a few bob and spending it how he sees fit.
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November 21, 2009 7:18pm
Inventory2

POhillip Ure said “i was there..

and any claim of 5,000..is a joke..”

A joke Phil – not unlike your claim to be in the top 1% globally on Technorati – except in this case Phil, the joke’s on you 🙂
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November 21, 2009 7:33pm
Angus

“not unlike your claim to be in the top 1% globally on Technorati”

If you listen closely you can hear Arianna Huffington & Markos Moulitsas quaking in their boots.
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November 21, 2009 7:42pm
Steve

The kid is washing the dishes and doing the other housework.
The kid rolled up a beauty stoggie for his Dad Dad Dad, so the Phool can sit on his Arse arse arse
Stupid drug crazed prick, and we all pay for the tosser
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November 21, 2009 7:58pm
Elijah Lineberry

What would you chaps have to discuss without Phil?!?! he has been the main topic of conversation for hours! gosh!

http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com
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November 21, 2009 8:03pm
philu

why don’t you dicks go and read a book or something..

get a fucken life..!

play with yr dicks..!

do something..!

the drooling/gibbering is getting really infantile/monosyllabic…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 8:06pm
Steve

Probably we just want to know how a fuckwit’s brain works, or indeed if it does work.
Reason being that we want know the warning signs of how a deranged idiot goes from acceptable to needing a 12 gauge
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November 21, 2009 8:10pm
Johnboy

2 seconds!—-Chaps!
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November 21, 2009 8:11pm
Tauhei Notts

Steve at 5.46 p.m.
I hope you had a decent merlot with the steak.
Your comments about steak remind of the bloke who, when asked if he would like greens, replied;
“Greens is what food eats.”
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November 21, 2009 8:23pm
Steve

Phool the fuckwit went to the march, had some discussion and went home.
Wow! what a day, he got off his arse and went to the march.
Who paid for this? who gave Phool enough money to travel? He drove a car? He went on a bus?
Oh, I know the Government paid, well NO you parasite, the taxpayer paid.
You useless scumbag, you used our money to go to a protest.
Yeehaa, money well spent not
Won’t be long Mr Phillip Ure, your time has come
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November 21, 2009 8:32pm
philu

careful steve..!

blood pressure..!

you know you aren’t meant to turn all red in the face like that..

a man of your advanced years..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 8:47pm
Tauhei Notts

Steve,
Your 8.32 post suggests that you had some dreadful west Auckland claret with the steak. Let the moths out of your wallet and get some decent Gimblett gravels wine.
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November 21, 2009 8:59pm
Yvette

‘$500 per marcher..”

May seem a lot, but nothing like paying $ 9,000,000 for a referendum you take no notice of.
$ 9,000,000 of OUR taxes.
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November 21, 2009 9:04pm
philu

this is funny..!

a rightwing palinite crowd turn on their heroine..

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/when-rightwingers-go-badpalin-booed-by-book-tour-crowd/

(a crowd goes feral on sarah palin..)

“..The angry crowd turned on Palin as she returned to her “Going Rogue” tour bus.

Video below shows people booing and shouting at the bus, and shouting “Sign our books Sarah!” ..

.. as the engine revved up and Palin departed..”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 9:04pm
pentwig

This is the phool as reported by Whaleoil at a bloggers outing:

and one sole Green, Vegan obnoxious ass.

The aforementioned obnoxious ass proceeded to annoy a stroppy objectivist who told him to fuck off or step outside and get sorted. She was pretty formidable and I don’t think I’d like to go a couple of rounds with her. Her “crime” in the mind of the obnoxious ass was to mention that countries could legitimately invade other countries in order to protect their supply lines of important resources and as an added bonus deliver that same country from the clutches of an evil dictator and provide democracy to the region. The aforementioned obnoxious ass then proceeded on the basis of that to tell the objectivist that she had no morals. Well the ensuing screaming and yelling was a sight to behold and wonderfully spectacular. Cactus was enjoying herself immensely.

Talk then got around then the the evils of the empire building of Amerika, the evilness of the Jewish empire, the support of the evil Palestinian killing Jewish empire by the evil Amerikan empire, dirty farming, the perils of having a minimum wage, and evil finance company directors who “stole” the “life-savings” of greedy old fools.

Well it was pretty much all against one at this point

Cactus Kate explained the benefits of having no minimum wage and based it around how much an hour a maid is paid to clean her apartments ($2.50p/h). The aforementioned obnoxious ass thought that this was akin to slave labour. To which Cactus replied that his reasoning was rubbish. The Maid had a job, better paid than the one she wouldn’t have had in the Philippines, her bathroom got cleaned for about $5.00 which she was never going to do, the maid got to save some of her wages and send the money home to her village where her family could buy a house. All round a great winner. She then went on to say that the going rate for farm hands at the moment is about $25.00p/h and that if the Crafars had instead of employing one dimwitted fool for way above his pay grade, in the ideal world they could have had 10 Filipinos working for the same amount thus ensuring all the necessary jobs got done, employed third world people who otherwise wouldn’t have had a job and improve productivity of the farms at the same time, plus with the added benefit that the job would be done at a higher quality.

Well this raised the blood pressure of the aforementioned obnoxious ass who promptly changed the subject to something else while being lambasted for being racist because he didn’t want third world labourers in New Zealand. His next topic for discussion then centred around the minimum wage. Cactus Kate asked why he should sit on the DPB when he could easily get a minimum wage job. His answer was that he had a Masters Degree and thus was over qualified for minimum wage jobs. The howls of elitist and racist were by now being hurled by all across the table at the aforementioned obnoxious ass.

The aforementioned obnoxious ass then decided to rail against evil Finance Company Directors when the real guilty people were the advisors who took commission to put their customers into the dodgy investments in the first place.

At this point Cactus Kate pointed out to the aforementioned obnoxious ass that he was exactly the type of person that developers like Andrew Krukziener was able to take advantage of and that they deserved to be tucked. She then asked if “The Crook” came in and offered him a debenture at 15% would he take it? The aforementioned obnoxious ass for some reason didn’t know that Andrew Krukziener’s nickname around town is “The Crook” and asked who that was.

So Cactus Kate asked the question again like this “If the little jew offered you 15% on a debenture would you invest?

The reaction from aforementioned obnoxious ass was simply spectacular. He stood up called us all racists and anti-semites, forgetting that he had just 5 minutes before been telling how evil the Jewish State was for killing innocent Palestinians. He then stormed off muttering and screaming to resounding applause and high fives from all the rest of us.

Now this is the funny part. We had objectivists, libertarians, fundy Christians, Conservative Christians, atheists, agnostics, homos, dying people, National supporters, Act supporters, Cactus Kate who is a category all on her own and one leftist, green aforementioned obnoxious ass. Everyone but him got on fine with much hilarity for the entire night except for this humourless prick.

The only pity was the only other little jew I know (DPF) wasn’t there to see the fireworks because he resides in Wellington.

Todays shit from the phool

“and in the main..my encounters with the righties were relatively benign/good-natured..

one was actually quite intelligent..(mind you..there were a lot of knuckles dragging on the ground..from most of them..)

and he agreed with me..”

“i went there to jeer..to get a voyueristic wallow in the group ignominy..

and boy..!..did it deliver..”
the frothers are really getting worked up/engaged..

is it a full moon..?”

A coward,liar and insane

“
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November 21, 2009 9:07pm
Hurf Durf

This is for you, phool.

The liberal bloggers are going crazy over a video that purports to show a crowd angry because they couldn’t get their books signed at an event in Noblesville. So I did some research and this is what I came up with.

Unlike the liberal bloggers who are claiming she was only there for 30 minutes and then whisked off, in fact she was there from 5:30 PM until 9:00 PM

…

One woman hollering into a microphone, in what looks to be a staged event by some liberals to somehow prove some sort of point, does not an angry mob make.

I purposely am not posting the video, or a link to the liberal sites trying to make it go viral simply for the reason that I am not going to contribute to their attempts. You want it, visit any liberal blog and I am sure they will have it posted.

Oh, and there’s your “source,” the HuffShit. Good to know what taxpayers spend their money on: you looking at lefty shit.
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November 21, 2009 9:12pm
pentwig

Sorry about the above post but maybe DPF will learn that freedom of speech that is constantly obnoxius by one blogger who does nothing but denigrate his most excellence site, and his intelligent audience/commenters, can do nothing but damage his site and ruin his ratings.

Surely DPF must do something about the phool who who whores his site (whoar) on his site (kiwiblog)

I think even the reasoned must say enough is enough.
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November 21, 2009 9:23pm
philu

and look..!

pantywig is having a few meltdown moments..

and..

“.and his intelligent audience/commenters,.”

that is just ‘brilliant..!’..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 21, 2009 10:01pm
Hurf Durf

Hey phool, who’s gonna win the World Cup next year? I need to know who not to put money on.
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November 21, 2009 10:16pm
Luc Hansen

Some catch up replies called for here:

# Hurf Durf (959) Vote: Add rating 9 Subtract rating 2 Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

You ever considered having an original thought, Luc?

Answer: Descartes stole my best one. I was so pissed off when I got got uni and found out the thought I had been harbouring since I was about 14 was already taken. So sad. Mind you, I think (no pun intended) he was more succinct than what I would have managed. But as the ladies often say, it’s the thought that counts.

calendar girl (311) Vote: Add rating 5 Subtract rating 0 Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm

A post as deceptive as ever, Luc (3.21pm). But thanks for the link to the article itself.

The quote is not – as you imply – a statement by the NZ Herald (as in an editorial). It is a comment reported in the Herald and attributed to a little-know immigrant musician.

Answer: Sweetheart, I just never knew you cared that much. But picky, picky. You’re not related to getstaffed are you? And I am so deceptive I supplied the link to the article. Once again, on here, I don’t write PhD theses – generally just a quick chat and leave you to do your own follow up. Spoon fed, I don’t do. But by all means, tell me how you would have preferred the attribution to read and I will, as always, do my best to please.

And by the way, his side won.

Johnboy, I believe one of the reasons Murray got the boot was his potty mouth, the non stop double entendres.

Generally, it would be a pleasant change to find something factually based and tightly reasoned here; just once in a while, except from me and a few others. I learn a lot from those who do so, including those who oppose me – in fact, they are invaluable. And I am not saying all my posts are like that; I like to have fun too 🙂

But a bit less ad hominem and a bit more debate on the issues would be cool.

Maybe DPF could set up a separate, moderated GD and leave this for the racists, the Islamaphobics, the deniers, the conspiracy theorists…hmmm, on second thoughts, it might get lonely in there!
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November 21, 2009 10:19pm
muppet

General debate on kiwiblog = Phil and his fan club. Phil has done a good job hijacking this space. Well done Pied Piper Phil now could you please take your followers home to whoar?
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November 21, 2009 10:20pm
pentwig

phool

“.and his intelligent audience/commenters,.” that does exclude you of course.

Further, a couple of days ago you called me a moron and stated you would not reply to my posts.

Keep your word you hypocrite.
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November 21, 2009 10:21pm
Hurf Durf

A whole thread devoted to Puke Hansen throwing around his moral superiority? I’m not sure DPF has that much bandwidth to waste.
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November 21, 2009 10:25pm
kaya

Fed to be audited?

http://tinyurl.com/ydohew7

Holy shit Batman, looks like Ron Paul’s efforts to have the Federal Reserve audited are moving into the realms of possibility!!! Now this will be the largest turd to hit the poor man’s air conditioning unit for many, many years if it gets all the way through. I can’t wait. OK Ben, what have you been doing with the money?
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November 21, 2009 10:39pm
Jack5

Luc Hansen’s 10.19 posts clinches it! Luc Hansen is a ghost, a synthetic creation of one or more anonymous posters either having fun or out to rile us righties.

The evidence: no human has ever been so preposterously self-opinionated as the “Luc Hansen” personification, nor could any human conceivably be so self-opinionated. It is a physical/medical impossibility for so big a head to go up the same human’s arse, despite this being portrayed by Luc’s postings.

Thus “Luc Hansen” cannot possibly exist as a living, breathing human.

I hope the string pullers of the internet puppet known as “Luc Hansen” have had fun. They would have got a way with their game longer if they had made a just a fewer posts and had kept Loathsome Luc within plausible bounds.
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November 21, 2009 10:59pm
Jack5

Final thought for the night. Let’s give poor old Philu (Philip Ure) a break.

Let’s each chip in a few bucks and shout him to Australia with Chthoniid on Chthoniid’s next visit to the big salt crocodiles.

It would do all of us the world of good.
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November 21, 2009 11:11pm
getstaffed

CRU Hack – All the emails are online and searchable. There’s tonnes of routine correspondance in here, but some pretty desperate stuff as well, more so in the later emails.
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November 21, 2009 11:30pm
Rufus

I just feel sorry for Phil’s kid. The lad doesn’t stand a chance.

Rufus
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Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments
Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times
Health Target 2 – Immunisations

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