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Captain Crab

Why is it Dairies in Auckland dont display prices on their goods?
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November 19, 2009 8:04am
tom hunter

…..there will be storms and droughts and floods….

I almost lost my coffee when I read Pete George’s painfully earnest comment from yesterday’s GD thread.

It reminded me of a great skit that is even more appropriate today than it was originally, when you think about what it lampoons. Take it away Marty Feldman
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November 19, 2009 8:06am
Razork

Is it wrong that I’m in lust with Nadine the part time business girl on TV1 breakfast?
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November 19, 2009 8:13am
big bruv

Razork

Is that because she is only four foot ten?
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November 19, 2009 8:17am
Murray

No its not wrong, shes hot.

And they’re all the same height laying down.
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November 19, 2009 8:18am
Pete George

painfully earnest

I must have used the wrong font, it was meant as painfully obvious with a dose of sarcasm.
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November 19, 2009 8:21am
Murray

I see Lucy Lawless was under the impression that the Prime minister should be on call for her when ever she rocks up to parliament with her latest green party stunt.

Remind me how many votes Lucy got to represent us someone.
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November 19, 2009 8:21am
Yvette

Why is it Dairies in Auckland dont display prices on their goods?
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Because it is a greater commitment towards buying the item to ask the price, instead of just seeing a hugely inflated price and going Oh bloody hell and walking out
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November 19, 2009 8:22am
Simon

“With nearly 97 percent of all companies now reporting earnings for the second quarter, the S&P 500 PE ratio sits at 129. This is by far the most over hyped rally in the world.”

http://www.mybudget360.com/sp-500-over-priced-with-97-of-companies-reporting-q2-earnings-the-pe-ratio-is-now-at-129-the-most-over-hyped-market-rally-ever/

This is history. America to crash and too take everyone else out as well. It is game over it is just a matter of time.
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November 19, 2009 8:24am
Simon

Nick Smith is running a secret government and the opposition are useless. David Lange would be chewing Smith apart. Labor 2009 an empty husk wanked out by nine years of Clark anti-democratic corruption.

This is Helen Clark legacy to NZ.
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November 19, 2009 8:25am
starboard

that weather girl alison pugh is a piece of ass as well
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November 19, 2009 8:26am
Luc Hansen

Morning glorys on display, I see. 😉
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November 19, 2009 8:29am
Richard Hurst

Federated Farmers President, Don Nicolson has thrown a hand grenade into the ETS mix
Read his speech here:
http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/n1761.html

Johnny Key- ignore at your peril.
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November 19, 2009 8:37am
Redbaiter

The Progressives have so destroyed the economy of Kalifornia, there’s not even enough power to run larger than normal TV sets there any more.

Check it out and remember that if we keep listening to the Progressives, they’ll do to NZ what they have done to Kalifornia.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091118/D9C1S1080.html

(Not that they haven’t damaged us enough already)
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November 19, 2009 8:43am
nickb

Easily the most disgusting article I have seen for a while:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10609888

If the left are so deranged about the anti-smacking law then there really is no point in saying what I am going to, but here goes:

1. Rudman acknowledges the child abuse problem. Yet he wishes to solve it by criminalising the 99% of good parents who rarely touch their kids, at worst give them a light smack. Presumably he believes the Kahui’s and Jonny Joachim’s of this world are going to get out their Crimes Act before deciding to put their kids in dryers, punch them in the face etc etc

2. Rudman claims the march is a sad day for democracy. Let’s get this striaght. One, sole MP in Parliament is ideological enough and with a big enough ego, that she decides she is going to tell Kiwi’s how to raise their children Against massive backlash, she puts through a private member’s bill, which ends up being passed by a majority of our gutless wonders in Parliament, including the two main parties. A referendum is completed, showing that nearly 90% of Kiwi’s oppose the law. Then our strong statesman John Key announces he will ignore it. Then, on the other hand, some kiwis decide to use their democratic right to protest against such appaling totalitarian social engineering.
The former is democratic by Rudman’s own thinking, the latter is “mob rule”, and not.

3. Yet again, the left class those against the bill (including 90% of NZ parents) as “pro-beaters” and “those demanding the right to bash their children”.

Truly sickening. When will anyone say enough is enough to this kind of shit? John Key? Haha, what a fucking laugh. I agree with you now Redbaiter, throw the lot out and start again.
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November 19, 2009 8:55am
Redbaiter

“NBC, which is last place in network ratings, has decided to double down on their green propaganda push this week by putting environmentalist messages in five of its shows: 30 Rock, Heroes, Community, The Office and The Biggest Loser. NBC is owned by GE. GE has positioned itself to make loads of money if “green technology” becomes dominant, so they’ve not only invested a lot of capital in the Obama administration, they’re trying to get everyone on their bandwagon.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2389197/posts
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November 19, 2009 8:57am
Manolo

“Federated Farmers President, Don Nicolson has thrown a hand grenade into the ETS mix. Key- ignore at your peril.”

It seems Key doesn’t care. He appears aloof and detached, since is the incompetent Nick Smith who is in charge of the absurd ETS.

Political and economic reality is about to hit the spineless grinning man in the face. It’s about time.
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November 19, 2009 9:03am
Redbaiter

” I agree with you now Redbaiter, throw the lot out and start again.”

They no longer represent the people but are there to pander to special interest groups- Progressive lobbyists, racists, limp dicked academics, TOW thugs and environmental con artists and while they should be cutting government spending they’re increasing it and raising taxes, while they should be reducing regulation, they’re expanding it and except for better management of public relations, they’re virtually the same as the last lot.

We have to remove all of the encumbents and start again.
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November 19, 2009 9:03am
dad4justice

Indeed, enough is enough we must stop greedy-ego fuckwits running our country into the dirt.
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November 19, 2009 9:08am
Lee C

And my views on Rudman.

http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2009/11/praise-junkies.html

With thanks Lee – MWT
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November 19, 2009 9:11am
Captain Crab

Manolo
I’d guess that the majority of NZers dont believe that these schemes can do much about AGW or indeed that AGW is a major problem. Just like the majority is also against pollution and wants a clean country.
However the problem is what the consumers of our goods believe. And its pretty clear that Europe is full of those who want these schemes. The danger we have , is that if we dont go along, no matter how stupid it is, then we will get taxed anyway or worse boycotted.
Thats the reality we have to deal with. I reckon Key thinks its a crock but he also knows without trade we are truly fucked, because I’d wager that if the europeans do it then they will punish those who dont.
I’d also wager that theres a bit of a delaying game going on amongst some nations as they wait for the world wide public to wake up to what a farce this is. Just look at Copenhagen. Another conference for the troughers and will anything be achieved?
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November 19, 2009 9:15am
malcolm

GE has positioned itself to make loads of money if “green technology” becomes dominant, so they’ve not only invested a lot of capital in the Obama administration, they’re trying to get everyone on their bandwagon.”

Which GE is that? The world leader in steam and gas turbines for power generation, high-voltage power transmission and generation equipment, LV distribution equipment, aircraft jet engines, compressors and turbines for the oil and gas industry, etc? They’re going to make it all back on wind-turbines and energy-efficient light bulbs?

RedBaiter, you’re cutting and pasting the sort of misrepresentations and deceit you’re always warning us about.
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November 19, 2009 9:16am
Redbaiter

In an odd exposé that has left the worlds of politics and academia abuzz, a local homeless person revealed yesterday that he only blamed himself for his failures. The incident occurred near the dumpster behind the Shop Rite store in Brooklyn, when Willard Kookish, formerly of 435 Subprime Lane in Nutly, NJ, casually told a reporter that “my problems are my own fault.”

The veteran New York Times reporter Ken McLiar, who has been searching area dumpsters for a 3,785-part series on people who are homeless due to the evils of American capitalism, admits he was astonished by Mr. Kookish’s bizarre confession.

When asked to elaborate, Mr. Kookish went on to say, “I went through college drinking and smoking dope and never learned anything. I’ve had many job opportunities but didn’t bother to show up. My family left me a nice house to live in but I took out home equity loans on it and spent the money on hookers and gambling. When the housing boom collapsed I lost everything. I made bad decisions and here I am bearing the consequences.”

The startling revelation has left many in the community troubled by what it may portend for society at large. “It should be illegal to talk like that”, said Marge Stumpko, an angered low-wage waitress from Lower Skunkworks, NY. “Aren’t we all our brother’s keepers? Is that all you’re leaving for my tip, turdface?”

Floyd Grabbuck, a community organizer from Chicago, furiously described Mr. Kookish’s statement as “un-American and downright traitorous,” suggesting that “If that ungrateful rat-bastard doesn’t like how we do things in this country, maybe he should move to a place like Russia where the government doesn’t care for its subjects and see how he likes it there.”

Eddie Fuppish, a mismarked ballot corrector from Franken, Minnesota, sounded more conciliatory: “The poor man needs help. Anybody that takes responsibility for his own actions is certifiably insane. Just look at all the big businesses selling you stuff for money. Don’t tell me you are in control of your own spending or anything else for that matter. You’re not. That’s why I vote Democratic and make sure other people do the same, even if they didn’t mark their ballots that way. It’s the right thing to do. People need to be protected.”

Experts, on whom the incompetent depend to explain the complicated world they fail to understand, are unanimous. “It’s Reagan’s fault,” says Professor Wilton Chumpley, a consulting sociologist from the University of Twerp in Belgium. “Remember how in the 1980s that actor-president mislead people into thinking they could spend their own money and run their own lives without expert help? And then you had that crackpot economist Milton Friedman falsely claiming that the government shouldn’t be responsible for directing people’s existence. It made less sense than the UFO stories, at least for smart people like myself. But, tragically, some fools took it seriously; it ruined their lives.”

President Obama has not commented publicly on the controversy but has privately told aides that “former President Bush is not getting off the hook for the economy, the War in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina or Willard Kookish’s failures on my watch.” Sources speculate that Kookish’s mortgage default will be added to the list of indictable offenses against former Bush Administration officials.

Reverend Al Sharpton excoriated Kookish’s “arrogant fantasy,” calling it “blame the victim” rhetoric from the right and predicting that the incident would set race relations in the US back fifty years, even though Kookish is white. “It don’t matter who the victim is, it’s who’s doing the blaming that makes it wrong,” Sharpton said.

Regardless of the troubling short-term fallout from the incident, the long term trends are clear. “We need to make people understand they don’t matter,” stated House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. “Having become cogs in the huge state machine, they can’t be allowed to think independently and control their lives; that’s what we’re here for.” Pelosi stressed the inevitability of new taxes and government programs in order to liberate people from such delusions. “People like Willard Kookish better get this through their thick skulls: it’s not their fault, it’s society’s. And that’s why they need President Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress to subdue this country in order to fix it.”

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=4309
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November 19, 2009 9:17am
Redbaiter

I posted the whole thing because the web page is full of popups and other bullshit.
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November 19, 2009 9:25am
Pete George

It looks like you didn’t manage to remove the bullshit.
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November 19, 2009 9:29am
malcolm

RedBaiter, you should try writing your own parodies. They’d be great. There’s no need to cut-n-paste this witless and infantile crap off popup infested sites.
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November 19, 2009 9:35am
Redbaiter

Obviously Mal, you should try another shrink. Your present one isn’t doing anything for your RDS.
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November 19, 2009 9:37am
MikeNZ

RB
I say replace the original 112 who voted against Kiwi parents and any new ones who have not spoken up for us.

They broke the spcial contract and have now ignored us twice. The are not fit for purpose.
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November 19, 2009 9:40am
Spam

Today is day three of my head cold. I tried “Sudafed PE” (which is actually phenylephrine), and it did bugger all for my sinus pain. So I went back to the chemist, and they insisted that “Codral new formula” (also with phenylephrine) is what would fix me right-up. Still no luck, with sinus pain giving me headaches, watery eyes etc. I looked through our cupboard, and found a couple of old codral pills wtih pseudoephidrine. Took these, and within about 30 minutes, my sinus pain had disappeared. Of course, I can’t go and buy anymore. So here I am at home, cogested to hell, trying to do work to complete a submission. Thanks, Nats for denying me something that will actually give me some relief from my symptoms.
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November 19, 2009 9:42am
Pete George

I say replace the original 112 who voted against Kiwi parents and any new ones who have not spoken up for us.

How do you propose to do that Mike? And how will you ensure replacements are only those who agree with you on a single minor issue?

The NZ Tea Party will compete well with Bill and Ben.
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November 19, 2009 9:45am
stephen

OG’s back:

The $90,000 three-year scholarship for Maori PhD business students was announced at the Aotearoa New Zealand Maori Business Leaders Awards at the University of Auckland Business School last night.

It will be funded via a $1 million endowment fund with seed money from Mr Glenn, one of Sir Howard’s closest mates and the business school’s biggest benefactor.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10610215&pnum=0
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November 19, 2009 9:46am
Redbaiter

“The NZ Tea Party will compete well with Bill and Ben.”

Bill and Ben never managed to get 400,000 signatures on a petition.
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November 19, 2009 9:46am
malcolm

It’s not you per se Red, it’s your comments. They always make me think, and sometimes they make me think “that’s a load of misrepresentation and deceit” or “that would be funny if I didn’t think RedBaiter was actually serious.” So I comment. We’re all here for a bit of fun, enlightenment and debate.

I’m serious about the parodies. You could do much better than that one you dragged off the web.
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November 19, 2009 9:48am
3-coil

I hear on NatRad this morning that Witi Ihimaera, the Professor of Plagiarism at Auckland University, is now trying to buy up all the copies (sold and unsold) of his latest “novel” – to try and bury the recent unfortunate expose of his un-original/borrowed writing (which he had been happily passing off as his own work).

This must be why Witi “tea-leaf” Ihimaera will shamelessly pocket (and not hand back) the $50,000 grant from the Arts Foundation, but will it be enough to cover this unexpected extra cost he has to bear?
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November 19, 2009 9:49am
Redbaiter

Yes, Malcolm. Alcoholics can never admit why they need that next drink either.

(have you told this to your shrink?)
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November 19, 2009 9:49am
Pete George

Bill and Ben never managed to get 400,000 signatures on a petition.

No, they realised that you have to go in an election to get into parliament.
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November 19, 2009 9:50am
grumpyoldhori

Damn those septic conservatives are a giggle, to get purity in the GOP party they stand an idiot who forgets that all politics are local in a seat.
Then they suggest they only want those who are pure to vote for the conservative idiot.
Those who were not pure took their advice and sent a Democrat to Washington.
Now I see moderate Republican types stating it is better to throw the election to a Democrat rather than have complete Palin picked idiots in Congress
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November 19, 2009 9:52am
Brian Smaller

Morning glorys on display, I see.

Well righties are not afraid to say that they get a woody watching an attractive woman. Lefties get the guilts. Careful – a feminist might be watching.
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November 19, 2009 9:53am
Redbaiter

Here’s Grumpyoldracist with his one dimensional slack jawed regurgitation of Democrat talking points as usual. Yawn…
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November 19, 2009 9:55am
malcolm

..found a couple of old codral pills wtih pseudoephidrine. Took these, and within about 30 minutes, my sinus pain had disappeared. Of course, I can’t go and buy anymore.

Go and buy a chunk of ice from your neighbourhood P dealer. It’s never been cheaper and availability is great this season. Open 24/7 as well.
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November 19, 2009 9:57am
philu

fox news ‘does good work’..

(go figure..!..)

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/fox-news-if-youre-still-eating-meat-this-is-what-youre-contributing-to/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:00am
philu

here’s redbaiter with his one dimensional slack jawed regurgitation of far-right-blog talking points..(yawn..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:02am
Angus

One mention of P and philu shows up. Go figure.
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November 19, 2009 10:07am
Murray

And the third member of the tag team of stupid is with us.

Time to leave to pool now its being piddled in by the children.
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November 19, 2009 10:08am
pentwig

Phool

Just had a mixed grill breakfast. Bloody marvelous.
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November 19, 2009 10:08am
XChequer

Here’s Philu with his daily regurgitation of vomitous diatribe that was cut and pasted from another website (can’t recall now what the name is now) because that website has no following and no one will discuss his “posts” so he has to have the discussion on a blog that does show some signs of cerebral activity.

Jeez, Phil mate, give it a rest will ya?
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November 19, 2009 10:12am
philu

(sigh..!..)..angus…i have never used ‘p’..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:24am
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/melting-arctic-forget-polar-bears-worry-about-humans/

These are grim forecasts .. but they are also conservative ..

.. because they are based on models that aren’t keeping up with the terrible speed of the ice’s collapse.

In the far north, the biggest and fastest change to our planet ever caused by human activity is under way.

As the Earth warms, more and more of the frozen Arctic seas are melting away.

Each winter, the ice grows until it covers an area more than one and a half times as great as the US.

In summer, that ice used to melt to half the winter area.

Now, after a catastrophic collapse in 2007, close to two-thirds of the ice is vanishing.

Compared with a decade earlier, the Arctic is losing an extra area of ice each summer six times as large as California.

Estimates of when the ice will completely disappear each summer now range from 2013 to 2050..”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:28am
XChequer

And right on queue, he does it again.
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November 19, 2009 10:31am
philu

the word is ‘cue’..oh illiterate one..!

(it’s not a line of tea-baggers..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:42am
tom hunter

It’s great that we now have satellites and the web so can keep a closer watch on things ourselves.

Here’s the Arctic Sea Ice growth and shrinkage since 2002, courtesy of the AMSR-E satellite.

There’s also a CSV file download. Just a note to the warmists – remember your remedial stats courses.
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November 19, 2009 10:49am
Manolo

“…i have never used ‘p’.”

A truism that ranks high along the line “We all love Helen Clark”
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November 19, 2009 10:57am
Chthoniid

here’s redbaiter with his one dimensional slack jawed regurgitation of far-right-blog talking points..(yawn..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

Speaking of slack-jawed, one dimensional yawn-inducing posters…

Look, everybody here has worked out by now that you’re a pretentious little fuckwit with all the relevance to political debate as last weeks roadkill. Except roadkill has more respect and relevancy.

Nobody, not here, or in the Greens, or anywhere else, gives a shit what Philip Ure writes or thinks.
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November 19, 2009 10:57am
starboard

ya days are numbered whore.. heh
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November 19, 2009 10:57am
philu

tom..don’t you think the denialist-squeaks are being drowned out by the growing roar of ‘warmist’ consensus all around you..?

the rest of us have actually moved on/turned to..

w.t.f. are/can we do about this..?

your irrelevance is just compounded by each passing day..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 10:59am
Redbaiter

“Jeez, Phil mate, give it a rest will ya?”

You’re quite correct. His swamping of David Farrar’s website with stuff from whoar is a clear acknowledgement of what a dropkick failure he knows his own website is.
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November 19, 2009 10:59am
transmogrifier

One of the things that disappoints me in our country is the complete lack of common sense shown by people in positions of responsibility. Giving Ihimaera the $50,000 dollars just after he has been found plagiarizing is symptomatic of a country where people don’t even think about what they are doing, but rather tend to just robotically do what they are supposed to do, and generally along groupthink lines. “We decided to give him this award a while ago, and that’s what we are going to do.”

Whatever happened to common sense?
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November 19, 2009 11:01am
philu

clintoiid..i feel your anger/i feel your pain..

should i stop posting those aspirational (for you) nature-pics..?

would that help still your anger..ease your pain..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:02am
philu

yes star-bored..all our days ‘are numbered’..

(are you having an existential kinda morning..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:03am
Pete George

Here’s Arctic Sea Ice Extent over the last 50 years which shows a longer more meaningful trend:
http://nsidc.org/sotc/images/mean_anomaly_1953-2009.png

From: http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html
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November 19, 2009 11:04am
philu

“..is a clear acknowledgement of what a dropkick failure he knows his own website is..”

nah red..!

just trying to bring a little bit of illumination to that dark crevasse that is the mind of you..

..and those like you..

(those in the ‘right queue’..as it were..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:06am
transmogrifier

Also, I would just like to say that I have never replied to philu and never will, and after this post will never mention him again, and I would suggest that those of you who are likewise annoyed by his poorly formatted, repetitive, difficult to understand posts do the same, instead of whining that he should be banned. Isn’t it obvious he wants the attention and you are all pretty much moths to a flame?
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November 19, 2009 11:08am
stephen

Nobody, not here, or in the Greens, or anywhere else, gives a shit what Philip Ure writes or thinks.

Yet you keep talking about him.

*strokes chin*
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November 19, 2009 11:12am
Ryan Sproull

I see the topic of discussion in GD is once again Philu. You’d think people would get sick of it.
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November 19, 2009 11:16am
stephen

Here’s Arctic Sea Ice Extent over the last 50 years which shows a longer more meaningful trend:
http://nsidc.org/sotc/images/mean_anomaly_1953-2009.png

The thickness of the ice is also quite important Pete.
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November 19, 2009 11:18am
philu

manolo..if i have admitted to having used/been addicted to ..heroin/cocaine/w.h.y..

why the fuck wd i try to deny using ‘p’..?

i know it’s asking a lot of you to use basic logic..

but do try..!

eh..?

try to get some of the synapses in yr alcohol-sodden excuse for a brain..

to actually operate..

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:21am
Chthoniid

Tut, tut Phool, projecting your feelings on to me won’t work.

Let’s face it, you resent me, you admire me, and you want what I have.

Your rep as an environmentalist took a fatal hit when I turned up. You sit on a couch and watch the grass grow. I go to different countries, stop wildlife smugglers, influence conservation policy and put my arse on the line for endangered species.

You sit on a couch and hide behind a keyboard. Except of course, I’m not a ‘leftie’. I’m the ‘real’ environmentalist and you’ve been shown up as the spiteful, delusional, tiny shit-maker that you are.

You only started posting photo links when I started. Imitation my dear boy, is the sincerest form of flattery. Except you’re a talentless cut-and-paste merchant, with no skill or motivation of your own. And you still don’t get any recognition from that. Weird huh.

See, I have friends, talent, motivation and influence. All of these are beyond you grasp. So you resent me, and you secretly want what I’ve got.

I don’t care Phool, what you write or think because you have achieved a complete irrelevancy. I hold you in contempt as a fake environmentalist.

Now, if anybody would like to make an actual and valuable contribution to the GD, I would like to see something else.
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November 19, 2009 11:21am
Brian Smaller

Federated Farmers President, Don Nicolson has thrown a hand grenade into the ETS mix
Read his speech here:
http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/n1761.html

Johnny Key- ignore at your peril.

His analogy of the Dutch Tulip Bubble is so apt when discussing the inanity of trading carbon, one of the building block elements of life itself.
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November 19, 2009 11:23am
Ryan Sproull

Crikey dick, Chthoniid.
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November 19, 2009 11:24am
transmogrifier

Re: Chthoniid

“Now, if anybody would like to make an actual and valuable contribution to the GD, I would like to see something else.”

If anyone mentions climate change in here today, I’ll scream. Since I’ve been coming to Kiwiblog there has been a steady decrease in the diversity of issues under discussion, until these days there seems to be just two: the subject of your post above and climate change.

There is literally nothing more boring than reading a link war between laymen involving the science of the weather.
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November 19, 2009 11:25am
philu

“..You’d think people would get sick of it..”

aye..!

in my defence..i can’t help myself..

these knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers hove into view..

with great big fucken targets on their chests…

what’s a ‘shooter’ expected to do..?

but really..i would rather they discussed the serious shit that is going down..

but you can lead monkeys to knowledge..

difficult to stop them gibbering tho’..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:28am
bearhunter

“in my defence..i can’t help myself..

these knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers hove into view..

with great big fucken targets on their chests…

what’s a ’shooter’ expected to do..?”

Don’t stand in front of the mirror so much.
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November 19, 2009 11:31am
tom hunter

Trans.

Fair enough. Given my background in IT and interest in SF stories, I’ve been following the whole Singularity deal for a decade or two so here’s an article listing some of the things pushing us closer to it – maybe:

The Singularity is Coming-Now What

I admit I’m rather fearful of this, but then I never liked the finish of Childhood’s End either.
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November 19, 2009 11:34am
Glutaemus Maximus

So PhilU is getting to be ever more popular. “Napoleon’ of the Trolls.

Coming back soon PhilU. Remember my promise?

And you caused me to get 10 de-merit points. Only because you are a very bad egg, that has become more bitter and twisted than

is healthy. Healthy for us that is. So DF won’t ban you. But over time, even you must be getting the general message that you are

totally out of place here. Why not retreat to your invaluable news aggregation that no-body needs, reads or cares a toss about.
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November 19, 2009 11:34am
philu

“..You only started posting photo links when I started..”

um..!..darling..i have been posing links here for five and a half years..so ‘imitation’..?

and as for you..i couldn’t give a flying fuck about you..or what you may ‘have’..(?)

(psstt..!..hey..!..you are starting to get ‘really weird’ here..eh..?..)

for a while i ignored the attacks launched by you..(was it something i said..?..)

then i tired of ignoring..

so..if you don’t wanna ‘play’..don’t ‘play’..

..eh..?

(you strange little man..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:34am
XChequer

Phil, if we wanted our dark crevasse-like minds filled with your “illuminating” (?) intellectual radiance, we would go to your website.

As it is, we don’t.

And bugger all other people do either.

There is a reason for this. People don’t believe what you say. No one denies (and I’ll probably get crushed for this) that you are a moderately intelligent, sometimes witty blogger who points out some interesting pieces from time to time.

Great! Go for it – ON YOUR OWN BLOG! We congregate here at DPF’s for a reason. That same reason precludes us, in a general sense, from going to your blog. We don’t think that you have much to add to debate. Nothing personal.
I’m all for free speech, Phil and (paraphrasing Voltaire’s quote) will defend your right to say what you want – on your own blog. Thats the beauty of blogging.

Here you speak to your own agenda by seemingly re-posting your stuff from Whoar. If we were truly interested, we would go there and sign up. But we don’t. And probably won’t.

Stop trying to hi-jack this Blog with your own blather. It’s rude and why DPF has put up with you for so slong escapes me. You have your own place. Please withdraw back to it.
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November 19, 2009 11:36am
philu

look everyone..!..gluteys back…!

(with even more threats of g.b.h..eh..?)

why don’t you pull your foreskin over your head..

and try and whistle ‘dixie’..eh..?

you’d make more sense..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:39am
philu

x-check..

fact check:

yes..i ‘point out ‘interesting pieces’..

(two today…)

on what is ..as i understand it..an open forum..

(so..if you don’t want to read them..don’t..)

the rest is the usual knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers..(hi manolo..!)..

..with their !oh so unoriginal) ad hominems..

which i bat away..

and of course i am ‘speaking to my own agenda’..

who here isn’t..?

it’s a political blog..darling..

and..

‘it’s rude’..(?)

and hey..!..i just ignore your intermittant blatherings..

feel free to do the same..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:46am
Pete George

Tom, that link doesn’t work but I searched a bit on Singularity – potentially feasible SciFi for a change. Larger robots don’t scare me so much, a sledge hammer seems like it could still work (but yeah, drone aircraft are already a bit hard to wallop).

But nanobots are a different dimension, they could be ingested via food without you knowing, hmmm.
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November 19, 2009 11:47am
tom hunter

Tom, that link doesn’t work ….

Grrrrr. Serves me right for not checking before the 2 minute warning was done. Let’s try this again: The Singularity is Coming-Now What
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November 19, 2009 11:53am
XChequer

Whats with the “Darling” stuff, Phil?

And, since I’ve obviously given you to much credit on the intellectual standpoint, I’ll go over it again.

This is not your blog, Phil. You re-post everything from your blog over here. It wouldn’t be so bad if you just provided a link, but that would mean no one would ever read it. So you just sit and cut-and-paste all day.

If we wanted to read it, we would go to Whoar (I can’t believe you didn’t understand this the first time).

“fact check:

yes..i ‘point out ‘interesting pieces’..”

You think. We don’t.

“interesting pieces”, huh?. Have you ever noticed just how much debate your articles generate on GD? Slim to nil would be fairly accurate. Whats the point of having your own blog when you merely recreate it all here? This beggars belief!

“the rest is the usual knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers..(hi manolo..!)..

..with their !oh so unoriginal) ad hominems..”

Does anyone else see the irony in the above statement?
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November 19, 2009 11:57am
Pete George

Thanks, that’s the article I had found. Need time to check this out some more.

What about airborne nanobots that fly flat to reflect the sun, and change to side on to let it in, that could be a solution to the climate problems! Just joking, sort of.

Unintended consequences seems to raise it’s head.
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November 19, 2009 11:58am
philu

“..See, I have friends, talent, motivation and influence..”

and modesty..?

(but really..this is all about self-promotion..

you want to be the only self-promoter in the room..

eh..?)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 11:58am
Colonel Masters

@transmogrifier – you forgot the tedious religious threads too 😉

EDIT to add: And Obama’s birth certificate!
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November 19, 2009 11:59am
philu

“..You re-post everything from your blog over here..”

every day i do/find twenty plus stories/links..

..(19..so far..today..)

one or two come here..

so..no..

factually incorrect again/still..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 12:02pm
Pete George

To add: And taking over the government
To add: And world government taking over us
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November 19, 2009 12:02pm
tom hunter

Careful Pete – you’re getting close to mentioning the phrase that will make Transmogrifier scream.

I don’t like to imagine what will happen if he says it three times in front of a mirror. 🙂
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November 19, 2009 12:02pm
XChequer

And yet he still doesn’t see the point.

Whatever, Phil.
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November 19, 2009 12:05pm
philu

“..yes..i ‘point out ‘interesting pieces’..”

You think. We don’t..”

(sigh..!i was quoting you..darling..

(in this case..it’s not a term of affection..more impatience..)

are you really this thick..?

or is it an affectation you are developing..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 12:06pm
philu

you forgot the tedious endlessly-repeated ‘reds under the bed’ tape-loops from redbaiter..

(‘some call him redbaiter..we call him groundhog day..’..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 12:09pm
XChequer

Ad hominem attack there, perhaps, Phil?

Impatience, huh? I’m thick? I’m the one with the “affectation, Darling?”

I see I was being far to complementary in the original post.
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November 19, 2009 12:12pm
philu

it’s ‘too’..

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November 19, 2009 12:17pm
philu

“..Impatience, huh? I’m thick? ..”

great/biting rejoinder there..!

x-check..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 12:18pm
philu

“..Let’s face it, you resent me, you admire me, and you want what I have..”

really clintoiid…you should put that on a t-shirt…eh..?

it’s brilliant..!

and..

..(have you thought of applying for a job as a soap-writer..?

going on the evidence to hand..you seem to have a certain flair for it..

eh..?

and this..

“..So you resent me, and you secretly want what I’ve got..”

whoar..!..eh..?

a regular bodice-ripper..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 19, 2009 12:29pm
Chuck Bird

I wonder how many light years Al Baby thinks the sun is from earth.

Al Gore: Earth’s Interior ‘Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees’

By Noel Sheppard
November 18, 2009 – 10:27 ET

For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he’s peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC “Tonight Show” viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.

So egregious was his departure from reality that the following clip should be mandatory viewing for all his fans in the media who seem to be just as scientifically-challenged (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Hot Air):

Story Continues Below Ad ↓

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/18/al-gore-earths-interior-extremely-hot-several-million-degrees
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November 19, 2009 12:33pm
Ryan Sproull

I want an ignore function.

EDIT: An adequate use of my 3000th comment.
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November 19, 2009 12:34pm
Repton

In Copenhagen, all the world leaders will meet for a secret meeting in a hidden sub-basement. By the light of candles set in pentagrams, each will submit their darkest secret: Obama will offer his Kenyan birth certificate. John Key will supply his baptism records from the Exclusive Bretheren.

Once each is done, they will together pledge allegiance to the New World Government. A shadowy figure stands at the head of the room to receive their pledge. This is the puppetmaster; the spider at the heart of the web. With one arm, she controls the scientists of the IPCC. With the other, she manipulates the cultures of the world, twisting their children to her dark purposes.

“I accept your allegiance. Our first task,” says Sue Bradford as she steps into the flickering light, “Is to ban smacking world-wide.”
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November 19, 2009 12:35pm
Brian Smaller

sigh..!..)..angus…i have never used ‘p’..

phil(whoar.co.nz)

When he says that he has never used ‘p’ in his life, he is refering to ‘Personal’ responsibility.
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November 19, 2009 12:35pm
Pascal

The more you talk to him the longer he’ll stay here.
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November 19, 2009 12:38pm
tom hunter

Yep…… so apart from commenting, what’s everybody doing at this moment?

I’m proof-reading a 500 page history of the farming district where I grew up. I’m doing it for free of course!!

Later on I have to set up a new cable system for the hallway wall, where numerous pieces of our kids art will be hung (temporarily of course). Then finish off the last bits of a new fence and two gates.

Finally, if I have the time, I have to continue to edit our home videos, a process that has already taken me two years just to cover seven years of history – but the grandparents love it.
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