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philu

“..and still not have everything solved in clogged up courts by a horde of lawyers as in pre-ACC days…”

yeah..?..and how will you manage that trick..?

and..so we give the profit-making bits to the aussies..?

and keep the loss-making ones for ourselves..?

good one..!..eh einstein..?

how about one of you apologists/boosters of this..

explain how that is good for us..?

(and i fail to see how yr ‘life outside welfare’ comment..in this context..makes any sense at all..

maybe you could..?

oh..!..never mind..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 5:45pm
wreck1080

The ACC privatisation debate just illustrates the abject stupidity of the remaining labour supporters.

The argument from the likes of Phil Goff and mickeysavages, is that ACC privatisation will line the pockets of greedy Australian corporations.

I say, so what? If the aussies run a more efficient operation and can offer lower premiums then i gladly line their pockets. Phil Goff and mickey have this crazy idea that you should instead line the pockets of snivelling little kiwi bureaucrats who can’t get a job in the real world.

Phil and his dimwit drones such as mickeysavage just don’t get it.

If we take the philosophy of their arguments to a logical conclusion, then NZ will be building our own cars, TV’s and other consumer items. After all, we don’t want to line the pockets of other nations.
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October 23, 2009 5:45pm
Jack5

New topic for a minute if I may …

The Bridgestone tyre plant in Christchurch – the old Firestone plant set up in World War 2 as a strategic industry – is to close along with Bridgestone’s plant in Australia (link below). This will hit 275 Chch jobs, and with the multiplier effect that probably means about 1400.

The USA has slammed emergency tariffs to protect its tyre plants from Chinese dumping but that won’t happen here, especially with the free trade agreement with China.

The finance purists, and the media-dominating bank economists and other service industry analysts will say this is inevitable. If so, what will replace it both as an employer at that skill level and if not in exports, in import substitution?

NZ foreign exchange analysts and Government economists can keep lying to the world as in the outrageous claims that we have more mineral wealth per head than Australia (they were quoting not even unproven reserves but unfound reserves on the bloody ocean floor). This will help keep the kiwi dollar in the stratosphere and kill off more export and import-substitution industries and keep these NZ lying fuckers in sinecures until the country finally wakes up poor and bereft, near if not level with poor Western Samoa and Tonga.

As for the China NZ Free Trade agreement – it’s a crock. Fonterra’s Sanlu is being followed by disaster for remaining NZ manufacturing.

The link:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10605024
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October 23, 2009 5:47pm
Inventory2

@ Phillip Ure – cows, sheep and other animals have been – pardon my saying this at dinner-time people – pissing and shitting into streams and rivers since the dawn of time. It’s hardly a new phenomenon. And sheesh, how long d’ya reckon people have been milking cows?
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October 23, 2009 6:40pm
LUCY

Herald Tonight

“Lawless turns up at Salinger ERA hearing.”

“Actress Lucy Lawless, understood to be an acquaintance of Dr Salinger’s, turned up to watch the hearing today.”

Of course she did, he is her global warming guru.
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October 23, 2009 6:55pm
jackp

I like what Lucy said. Why is Philu mickeysavage screaming the sky is falling when ACC will be open to competition. If ACC is so good, then why not continue to go with them? Competition is good. Look at GM and Toyota. Without Toyota or Nissan, Honda, etc, GM would have continued to make cars that fall apart or are not in demand, only cars that make them money. Arrogance brought that company down along with compitition. If competition is brought in, ACC will have to meet the same demands. As far as workers being laid off, heck, they can work for their competition.
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October 23, 2009 6:55pm
malcolm

Jack, re the US putting tariffs on Chinese-made tyres.

Apparently there are no cheap tyres made in the US which compete with the imported Chinese tyres. The tariff will not create or save any jobs in the US. They’ll just force US tyres companies to import slightly more expensive low-end tyres from countries other than China.

It’s pure politics. And the Chinese are pissed and are threatening to put tariffs on the lucrative US to China trade in big chicken feet 🙂
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October 23, 2009 6:59pm
philu

so..inv is clearly a ok with more than 90% of our waterways being so polluted with cow shit/piss/farm run-off..

ok..

so we know where you are coming from..

you are a pro-polluter..

(what’s to say..?..to such a knuckle-dragging braindead fucken moron..?

spouting such imbecilic drivel..)

and of course..lucy just ducks/evades the questioning of her flawed logic..

and dishes up an ad hominem..

thereby identifying herself as the female version of her knuckledragging/moronic male compatriots..(c.f..inv..)

i’m still waiting for someone to tell me how giving the profitable bits of acc to aust insurance companies..

and us keeping the unprofitable bits..

is ‘good’ for us..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 7:09pm
malcolm

@ Phillip Ure – cows, sheep and other animals have been – pardon my saying this at dinner-time people – pissing and shitting into streams and rivers since the dawn of time. It’s hardly a new phenomenon. And sheesh, how long d’ya reckon people have been milking cows?

Intensive dairying is quite different from traditional pastoral farming of cattle and sheep. With traditional farming the waste is distributed all over the farm, and there is little problem. With dairying the cows are in the milking shed twice a day and there is a lot of washed-down effluent which then goes into settling ponds. It’s leakage/run-off from those ponds that causes the problems in water-ways.

Also dairy-farming is more profitable and can support more use of fertilisers, hence more effluent from a given area of land.

Not that I’m agreeing with Phil’s anti-farming rant. I suspect Phil is pretty ignorant of how farms operate.
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October 23, 2009 7:11pm
philu

i am not anti-farming..

i am for sustainable farming..

and this ain’t it..

on a raft of levels..

it has no future..

it is a sunset-industry..

slowly killing/eating itself..

(unforunately it is also killing our environment..and people..)

and yep..!..being a vegan/animal-rights person now is much like trying to argue against cigarette smoking in the fifties..

but just as they were proven ‘right’..

so will we..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 7:18pm
malcolm

Phil, what type of farming would you consider sustainable in NZ?
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October 23, 2009 7:20pm
BlackMoss

Privateers,

Maybe I’m too late to catch anyone but I really want someone to explain the logic of privatization to me. I can accept governments have inefficiencies and competition, and that in a true market situation with enough players and no price-fixing or cartel behaviour, prices should go down. But the logic for some of the privatization examples escapes me. ACC and insurance is a kind of middle case for me, my question is actually about private prisons:

How does a company make money off what is essentially a cost?
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October 23, 2009 7:33pm
Shunda barunda

And what would we be farming them for Phil?, I assume drinking milk is of the devil for vegans?
And phil unlike cigarette smoking humans are actually engineered to eat meat, I don’t see how you can link the two.
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October 23, 2009 7:33pm
BlackMoss

whoops — and competition was a typo
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October 23, 2009 7:37pm
LUCY

We had companies and the self employed opting for private accident insurance in the late ’90’s. And guess what the sky didnt fall, hoards of lawyers did not bog down the justice system with claims, those organisations and people that chose to stay with ACC did so (there werent many tho) and life went on.

I am talking from experience. I was one of those that monitored the private systems for the organisation I worked for AND their employees. The system worked there was better coverage, the service was definately more ‘user friendly’ (the user I refer to was the customer of the service ie the employee and not the funder ie the employer) and it was cost effective.

Profit is not a dirty word. When China despised profit millions of their people starved to death. Now they understand that profit is necessay they are booming. Russia despised profit and it collapsed. Now well for a while they were doing ok but Putin looks like he may take them in another direction but that is a different story. I could go on but you get the drift.

So what if ‘Australian” insurance companies make a profit? As long as they provide good coverage and service at a reasonable cost good on them. Its called business.
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October 23, 2009 7:50pm
LUCY

“and of course..lucy just ducks/evades the questioning of her flawed logic..

and dishes up an ad hominem..

thereby identifying herself as the female version of her knuckledragging/moronic male compatriots..(c.f..inv..)”

Aw shucks Philu that is so nice. I dont usually read your rantings but I saw my name. Thank you for treating me the same as you treat my “knuckledragging/moronic male compatriots” it convinces me Im on the right track.

Cheers!
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October 23, 2009 7:56pm
philu

“..Phil, what type of farming would you consider sustainable in NZ?..”

growing food..

not animals..

and lucy..and others..still haven’t explained how giving 200 million profit a year..

to the aust insurance companies..

is good for us..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 7:59pm
philu

“..And phil unlike cigarette smoking humans are actually engineered to eat meat..”

yeah..that’s why so many heavy meat/fat-eaters get bowel cancer..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 8:01pm
Southern Raider

Just saw the head of the Principles Federation on Close Up complaining that the Govt is dragging education back into the 19th Century.

He said although it would be good if children learned the 3 R’s its not the only reason they come to school. There are other reasons like wanting to have fun.

What a complete cock and is this is the kind of person leading the education industry we are in big trouble.
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October 23, 2009 8:11pm
Luc Hansen

LUCY

Like I said, I am not, in principle, opposed to competition. However, we should be clear about who gets the benefit of choice here – it’s not me, as these days I am usually an employee.

Only my employer gets the benefit of choice, as only the employer decides who the provider will be.

Now I actually don’t know the proportion paid vis a vis employer/employee, but I do know I have lately contributed about 1500 bucks per year to ACC, but, at least under the last bout of competition, my preference counts for nought.

What’s your take on that?

PS Are you a girl or not? I’m kind of old fashioned with the ladies, so it’s nice to know.
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October 23, 2009 8:12pm
Luc Hansen

It’s OK about the girl bit Lucy, just saw your reply to Phil 😉
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October 23, 2009 8:16pm
Patrick Starr

Phool

If you’re so concerned about polluted waterways why don’t you go and start cleaning them up?
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October 23, 2009 8:17pm
philu

some ‘deep thinking’ there..eh starr..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 8:23pm
Luc Hansen

SR

Do yourself a favour and go to http://www.primaryreview.org.uk/Press_and_media/Finalreportcoverage-Octob.html That page has links to media coverage of the recent report, surveying 12 years of concentrating on the 3Rs, that will probably guide Britain away from the direction we are just heading down.

Just stick your ideology into a holding pen and take a look.

I directed you to the media links page cos they do the thinking for you.
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October 23, 2009 8:26pm
Jack5

Further to my 5.47 post on Bridgestone pulling out of manufacturing in Christchurch…

The NZ dollar level is relevant, but the Chinese currency level is even more relevant, and that may be why the Americans are acting against Chinese tyre dumping.

Many Kiwiblog readers will regard American economist and commentator Paul Krugman as a bit leftist for their liking, but he is strong on currency, and demonstrated this with advice to Malaysia during the Asian meltdown in the 1990s.

In the link below Krugman discusses in his New York Times column how China holds down its currency. (No float there, no currency free market. This raises the question of whether you can have a perfect free trade agreement when one of the parties controls its currency exchange rates.)

The link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/opinion/23krugman.html?_r=1&th&emc=th
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October 23, 2009 8:33pm
Hurf Durf

Phool and Puke, you cretins. ACC isn’t being privatised, competition is being allowed in to make it more efficient (it isn’t doing well on its own – the command economy!). And it’s about time after the Klark-Kullen Ekonomik Katastrophe.
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October 23, 2009 8:40pm
MikeNZ

# BlackMoss (49) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 1 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm

How does a company make money off what is essentially a cost?

ACC is not a cost it is an insurance, therefore someone pays and others share the cost therefore premiums can and do go up as a result of the acturial loading due to a claims history.
One way to offset this is to make someone (where possible) at fault and recover all or some of your costs.
The present system is no fault therefore no one can be held accountable if they are at fault and everyone shares the cost equally supposedly.
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October 23, 2009 8:40pm
Patrick Starr

“some ‘deep thinking’ there..eh starr..?”

c’mon wanker, you wanted a debate……

Answer the question
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October 23, 2009 8:42pm
philu

and..why don’t you go and stick your head up your arse..

and whistle dixie..?

“..c’mon wanker, you wanted a debate……

Answer the question.”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 8:45pm
Patrick Starr

have you heard of ‘adopt a stream’ phool?, why dont you adopt the one that concerns you and clean it up?
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October 23, 2009 8:49pm
nickb

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10605024

Wonder if we can put this down to Obummer’s tarriffs.
Philu, your mate Obummer’s policies are doing wonders for the ordinary kiwi….

eh?…
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October 23, 2009 8:50pm
BlackMoss

MikeNZ,

As i said in my post, I regard as ACC as a kind of middle case — I’m not totally ruling out that privatization could make sense. My question related to privitization of prisons — I mean, how do you make money off what has to be viewed in the first instance as a cost to society. To guess at some answers, I would say you could: (i) get the prisoners to provide a service or a good, or (ii) you could reduce costs. The first option is similar to the work for the dole idea, you could get prisoners to provide their labour in the commerical arena, say doing laundery like on the movies, but this would push out the people that actually do this work in the first place, doable I spose. You could reduce costs in a number of ways, but in none of these ways can I see positive results, i.e. if you reduce labour costs you disenfranchise already stressed prison guards and open them up to even greater possibilities of corruption, you could cut down on any education, rehabilitation, but that destroys the principle of what prisoners are in the first place (not to some people, I know). I mean, I just think you’re naive if you think the private market is going to save you — the problems of private companies are obvious if you think about it — they have one, and only one, bottom line — profit. They will cynically and sometimes illegally, operate to that imperative. Just this week or two we have had Telecom for some anti-competitive practice. Companies aren’t what they portray themselves in flash marketing promotions. Just read LUCY post, apparently its possible to reduce costs, improve coverage and make a profit. Now I accept if insurance has just been an absolute gravy train, with all and sundry ripping off the system, then there is room for improvement, but why can’t the ACC be held to account for that? The reality is, is that the best way to make a profit on the insurance industry is to maximize premiums while being competitive with other providers (fine), and reduce the payouts you make by limiting coverage — its that step that could be problematic, and IMO the best post in today’s debate is wynkie at 10:48 pm and he raises some things that everyone should consider, lest something unforeseen happen to them and they find they’re in a bit of a situation. as usual for a factual based post, no-one comments on it and returns to their idealogical diatribes and general left or right propaganda. I thought it was obvious that the truth is usually to be found somewhere in the middle. anyway that’s my rant…
However,
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October 23, 2009 8:55pm
nickb

“Maybe I’m too late to catch anyone but I really want someone to explain the logic of privatization to me. I can accept governments have inefficiencies and competition, and that in a true market situation with enough players and no price-fixing or cartel behaviour, prices should go down. But the logic for some of the privatization examples escapes me. ACC and insurance is a kind of middle case for me, my question is actually about private prisons:”

I lean way to the right as well Blackmoss, but I don’t agree with private prisons at this stage. In my view, protecting citizens and running the criminal justice and courts system should be (and once was :() the main function of government. Everything the government gets into that causes problems and raises moral issues around taking other peoples money to pay for politicians’ pet projects.

Which is why I find it strange that some on the right advocate private prisons, yet still want the state to run their hospitals, schools, families commissions, welfare, cake decorating classes etc.. It seems like these people have it all round the wrong way, they are not focussing on what the government should be doing in the first place, rather HOW the government should do it (when the government shouldn’t have its nose in it at all).

As well as that, now don’t get me wrong I am all for harsh punishment for the violent thugs that roam our streets, but private enterprise profiting off rising crime does not sit too well with me; you can then end up with lobby groups popping up advocating for harsh sentences etc all while having vested interests in more prisoners.

If that rant makes sense to you Blackmoss, that is my thoughts on it anyway 🙂
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October 23, 2009 9:06pm
BlackMoss

nickb,

Good to hear there’s some nuanced ideas about privatization and that not everyone is rushing to a one-size fits all approach 😉
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October 23, 2009 9:10pm
Luc Hansen

Dwarf…you usual thoughtless and ill informed rantings, I see.

Our ACC system is very efficient, and it is doing well. It runs at about half the cost of the Australian scheme, so we keep hearing on the wireless. If your mate Don (Juan) Brash wants us to catch up to Australia, all he needs to do is tell Jonki to double the price of ACC and whammo!

Last financial year, as I patiently point out, often, ACC received in premiums more than it paid out, and it currently has 10 billion (not a misprint) in cash and investments. The shortfall was only as regards setting aside the funding for the tail, a contingent liability. The need for funding the tail is disputed, but both our major parties sign up to it.

As I said, I have no problem with competition, but I would prefer to stick with ACC, personally. But of course, if I was an employee, I don’t have that choice. Only my employer, under the same rules as last time, has that privilege.

So just calm down, stop looking for reds under your bed, and try to make a meaningful contribution.
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October 23, 2009 9:13pm
Steve

Phool,
This is a long weekend for some. Tell you what, you can have Monday off OK.
I mean just for once, have a holiday please.
Labour weekend is the start of summer, the start of BBQ’s. We get ready for the joining of families.
You and your vegan dogs can fuck off.
Once we laughed at your drug induced comments and stupidity.
Nobody cares about you now.
They did not care today, they did not care yesterday and they will not care tomorrow.
They did not care last week and they will not care next week.
They did not care last year, they do not care this year and they will not care next year.
You are a stupid prick.
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October 23, 2009 9:22pm
Luc Hansen

Steve

Why do you encourage him?

Now he will be even more energised!

Jeez…
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October 23, 2009 9:24pm
philu

aww..!!..steve..!!

deep down…you care..!!!

you really really care..!!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 9:25pm
Hurf Durf

Phool knows a thing or two about animal abuse. After all, it’s not like he asked to be born.
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October 23, 2009 9:25pm
philu

“..I mean just for once, have a holiday please…”

i can’t..

news never sleeps..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 23, 2009 9:30pm
Patrick Starr

that’s right phool..no answers..

just ad hominems..a bit of bluster..

answer the question numbnuts. Why dont you do something about the environment instead of just complaining- like adopt a stream? – If you think side show bobs stream is dirty, why dont you clean it up?
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October 23, 2009 9:30pm
starboard

whore..do tell..when are the yanks buying in to whore..heh heh snigger snort..
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October 23, 2009 9:33pm
Luc Hansen

LUCY has gone quiet.

I guess she is going off on a hot date…;-)
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October 23, 2009 9:34pm
joe90

LUCY has gone quiet.

Nah, cough!, gone for a fag before the lung transplant, cough!, fucking COPD cough!.
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October 23, 2009 11:31pm
Viking2

Where is Gen Debate when you need to get stuff out of your head??????
GRRRRRR

Certificates for pupils who stood up to Laws
By KAY BLUNDELL – The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 24/10/2009

KENT BLECHYNDEN/The Dominion Post
H IS FOR HONOURED: Otaki School kids received certificates from Joris de Bres after writing a letter to Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws about changing the name of Wanganui to Whanganui. From left, Rautini Thompson, Maria Logan-Richards, Amokura Rangiheuea gather round Mr de Bres.
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A group of Otaki primary school pupils have been honoured by Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres for acting with dignity in dealing with criticism from Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws.

The pupils, aged 11 to 13, at Otaki School’s kura kaupapa unit, were upset with an angry reply from Mr Laws, whom they wrote to in August urging him to insert the letter “h” in Wanganui.

Mr de Bres presented the girls with certificates yesterday to honour their stance.

“Your message to stand up for yourself is clear. You acted with real dignity and calm and quietly stood up for what you thought when dealing with such rubbish from Wanganui’s mayor.

“There has been a huge response from around the country for what you did. I hope the minister in charge of this issue will decide to correct the spelling,” Mr de Bres said.

He believed the way they had dealt with criticism was an example for everyone in New Zealand.

Ngarui Wihongi-Manukau, Rautini Thompson, Maria Logan-Richards, Amokura Rangiheueu, Teina Davis and Te Rangiamohia Nikora-Davis were disappointed Mr Laws had failed to respond to issues they had raised about the spelling of the town and asked him to apologise.

His reply had said: “There are so many deficiencies of both fact and logic in your letters I barely know where to start. When your class starts addressing the real issues of Maoridom – particularly the appalling rate of child abuse and child murder within Maori society, then I will take the rest of your views seriously.”

“He sounded angry, it was like he was not listening to us because of things happening with our people,” Maria said.

Mr Laws later asked the students to afternoon tea in his mayoral office saying, “If the impression was … I was somehow ‘bullying’ in my reply, I want to assure you it was the last thing from my mind.”

The girls declined the offer.

Although shy about receiving the honour, the girls said they were pleased they had stood up for themselves and would do so again.
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October 24, 2009 6:53am
EverlastingFire

‘honoured’ by Joris de Bres? Hardly an achievement. You’d gain more credibility declining an award from the hypocrite and moron.
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October 24, 2009 7:54am
LUCY

joe90 (54) Vote: 1 1 Says:

October 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
LUCY has gone quiet.

Nah, cough!, gone for a fag before the lung transplant, cough!, fucking COPD cough!.

Just for the record Joe I dont smoke.
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