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October 17, 2009 9:34am by David Farrar

General Debate 17 October 2009

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big bruv

Greenfly

If you are not “outraged” then why mention it, or have you reverted to juvenile trolling once again?

Kirk, Rowling, Muldoon, Lange, Palmer, Moore, Klark and Key have all told lies and you know it.

If you are going to play the morally superior card then perhaps you would do well to go and clean your own house first, because as we all know, when it comes to bullshitting MP’s the Greens win hands down.
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October 17, 2009 10:15pm
village idiot

Bruv – morally superior? Hardly. I’ve not mentioned any other parties or politicians at all , other than Helen Clark and only to mention her painting-signing. I was, however, making the point that I believe Prime Ministers should tell the truth to the public. I didn’t embroil any lesser politicians at all. I wanted to know how supporters of Key felt about lying. You don’t think mine was a fair question? Again, my feeling is that Key lies casually and often.

[DPF: Boy was reversing that ban a big mistake. Once a troll, always a troll. 13 posts in one thread all just calling someone a liar is a prime example of trolling. And he should look up the definition of hyperbole one day]
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October 17, 2009 10:21pm
philu

one of his recent just-made-that-up exercises..

was where in defence of his nanny-stating of cough-pills..

he said that the ban ‘would stop ‘p’-crazed addicts turning up on law abiding citizens’ doorsteps..’

that his banning of cough-pills would end this crime-wave..

now..i’ve been doing that news aggregator thing whoar for a while now..

and i follow the news..(some could say obsessively..)

and i cannot recall one story of this nature..

(and i am sure it wd have made the news..had this happened..eh..?..)

so..it would be good if mr key could substantiate his ”p’-crazed addicts at punters’ doors claim..eh..?

and show to us that he didn’t just ‘make it all up’..

eh..?

clark was very careful to be not caught out lying..

key seems far more careless/less quick on his feet..

..and any credibility will vanish if such a casual attitude to the truth/accuracy continues..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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October 17, 2009 10:32pm
Fisiani

So what was the upshot of the VSM vote at Victoria. Was it just ignored by the Executiveof the VUWSA unconstitutionally ?
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October 17, 2009 10:38pm
Luc Hansen

hey reid

um, do you think God has got something against being called God?

I mean, what about:

1. “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

Let’s just ignore for the moment that the stuff about Egypt is fantasy, fiction, ie did not happen.

So, ignoring that, if God calls Himself God, why don’t you?
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October 17, 2009 10:49pm
MikeNZ

They lie it’s called politics BB
So there’s no one with integrity in the whole house?
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October 17, 2009 10:56pm
billyborker

Yeah, odd that its a “jewish convention” whereas the hebrew word for god is…?

Gotta love god though, because if you don’t, he does a Weatherston on you.
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October 17, 2009 10:59pm
MikeNZ

BB
What stab us 219 times and jump on our grave before we’ve woken up in the morning and eaten hot gravel and then to go work 27 hrs at the mill and pay the mill owner to employ you!
oops sorry wrong film.

Wasn’t it the Prince of Egypt or something?
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October 17, 2009 11:05pm
billyborker

yeah, that’s god for you
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October 17, 2009 11:07pm
pentwig

Big Bruv

I do agree with your sentiments but there is a bigger picture.

The recession is costing us $m400 a week to lessen the impact on us all by keeping as many possible employed. How this works I do not know, but this government I do trust.

You would expect the economic audit pre election to be truthful and realistic after all this is what both major parties base their election strategy on. It is obvious that Labour did not expect to lose the elections because the financial statements were falsified. An unexpected nasty surprise for National.

I prefer to wait for BE’s second budget before being too critical of the financial side.

However I believe Key made a mistake over the smacking bill. He also made a mistake giving Cullen, a now proven deceiver, employment. It is also unfortunate that he allowed the opposition to endeavour to embarrass BE without hitting back. Anybody with any backbone does not let the second punch hit them.

I am also not too sure if ACT has the complete answer either.
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October 17, 2009 11:37pm
Luc Hansen

if ACT is the answer…well, you know the rest. 🙂
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October 18, 2009 12:16am
reid

“um, do you think God has got something against being called God?”

Um, I don’t know.

The beauty of worshipping G-d is that one does so under the terms one understands is appropriate. A worship in a field is as acceptable to G-d as one in Westminster Abbey, for example.

One who worships G-d is not answerable to what man thinks is acceptable but to what that man understands that G-d would think is acceptable. And since G-d has designed man to have free will, that means that a man has to answer that question for himself.

One of my personal answers not commonly used amongst my Christian brethren is that convention I choose to use.
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October 18, 2009 12:46am
dad4justice

“if ACT is the answer…”

Haha how could ACT do anything other than blow hot air like the coward of the county big blouse.
Can’t wait until we post under REAL names eh big blouse. What a sick joke you are.
Regards
Peter Burns
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October 18, 2009 7:48am
billyborker

jesusonajetski peter, get some counselling for your anger. Its only a blog, not real life.

If this is what religion does to a person, glad I ducked the religion gene.’
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October 18, 2009 8:07am
dad4justice

I am not angry, only a blog, yeah right, real life is much simpler than blogging because you deal with REAL people not keyboard cowards. How is fugley these days or are you big blouse?
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October 18, 2009 8:13am
billyborker

come on Peter, we all know that’s not your real name, we all know you’re really Beelzebub.
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October 18, 2009 8:25am
kaya

Tell you what, after reading the moronic dribble from the idiot here, the chance of me ever voting Labour again just left the realms of this lifetime, what a sad fucked up person. No semblance of debate or discussion, just more of the shite that the left spat for 9 years that made me vote National/conservative for the first time in my life. At a time when I might have been a little disillusioned with the Nats VI turns up and reminds me what a pathetic, sad, fucked up group of people those on the left seem to be. Cheers.
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October 18, 2009 9:56pm

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