General Debate 7 September 2009

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Akaroa

– ‘Morning All!
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September 7, 2009 7:46am
kaya

US unemployment figures at their highest since 1983, yet the market got excited because it was the smallest loss of jobs in a month since the decline began! The casino is rigged.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lost $100 billion between them even with almost $100 billion in federal bailouts. Still over the past few months Fannie Mae as much as 266% in August and Freddie Mac climbed 300%.

The fundamentals of the US markets are screwed, the next couple of months will be interesting.

Right, time to cast off the sack cloth and wash off the ashes, got work to do!!
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September 7, 2009 8:40am
starboard

..they pickin the dollar at .80c against the US by the end of the year…sweet..time to buy lots of Thai baht…
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September 7, 2009 9:24am
wreck1080

Vodafone and Telecom have been given a final chance to sort out mobile termination rates. And, they are complaining.

If I am the boss of all , i’d legislate termination rates to actual cost (2c / minute??).

Then I’m perfectly happy for vodafone /telecom to increase their tariffs to compensate for the lost revenue. At least, the pricing will be transparent and competitive.
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September 7, 2009 10:02am
gravedodger

Good morning Akaroa from actual Akaroa, if this takes off it will be much more interesting than most of the comments of Mr Ure and a whole lot easier to skim through.
Perhaps Mr Farrer could host a daily greeting post for those of us who don’t get out much. Goodnight Johnboy, Goognight Mary-Ellen then again, perhaps not. Cheers
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September 7, 2009 10:42am
starboard

..anyone got an update on 2degrees mobile…good /bad? Im lookin at switchin to them from vodafone.
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September 7, 2009 11:32am
big bruv

I note that Key has given his word that we will indeed have a BINDING referendum on the future of MMP.

MMP will be “gone by lunchtime”, the very best thing about the end of MMP will be seeing the Greens tossed out of the house.
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September 7, 2009 11:58am
big bruv

If you want to know the face of our Liberal media then read this pile of crap from somebody called Linley Boniface.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/opinion/2840467/Narcissism-least-of-Michael-Laws-sins/
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September 7, 2009 12:02pm
nickb

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2840914/Child-assaulted-for-wetting-bed-court-told

Good to see your law is working Sue, stopped this kind of stuff dead in its tracks.

Agreed with you bout the Laws article bruv, boniface is as wet as they come, a handwringer from way back
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September 7, 2009 12:07pm
Cerium

The old law and the Boscawen amendment would have done what differently Nick?

The crown alleged the mother “whacked him around the head a few times”. If this was an aberration for a normally good parent and if the whacking was deemed to be a type of smacking then it is possible it could be found to be not an offence according to the wording of the referendum.
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September 7, 2009 12:25pm
nickb

Nothing Cerium, as I have said before, that is the point.
It was Sue Bradford who contended the law was to stop child abuse. Why couldnt she have just admitted from the outset that this was more about social engineering and pushing the Greens crazy social agenda than stopping child abuse?

At least then se would have been being honest.
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September 7, 2009 12:45pm
tom hunter

Kaya

Check out what’s coming down the line at the Federal Housing Authority. The mortgage insurance on them has gone from $85 billion to $287 billion. I smell AIG II.

I especially liked this comment:

See, it turns out that the FHA, prompted of course by Congress, gave out a bazillion loans to people who were on the very edge of being able to pay them back. As long as our economy kept booming, they’d probably — probably — be okay. But if the economy wavered even a little bit, they’d be hosed and all those loans would come back to the FHA so fast you’d think they were attached by rubber bands. That’s exactly what’s happening now and the FHA is watching their cash reserves dry up like a shallow mudpuddle in the middle of Death Valley in July

Man-o-man. I’ve been battening down the hatches for the last 2 years and I still wonder if it’s enough.
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September 7, 2009 12:52pm
CraigM

If I was Paul Henry, I’d have a happy smirk on my face too. 🙂

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/image.cfm?c_id=1501119&gal_objectid=10595771&gallery_id=107262
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September 7, 2009 2:29pm
nickb

Anyone know when the 1st reading of the VSM bill is?
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September 7, 2009 3:05pm
big bruv

More pointless research, I could have told them that for a tenth of the cost.

http://lifestyle.msn.co.nz/article.aspx?id=858977
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September 7, 2009 4:46pm
Rex Widerstrom

Annual ginga celebration day in the Netherlands. Read ’em and weep, DPF 😛
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September 7, 2009 5:08pm
kaya

tom hunter – the next crash is gonna be a biggie.
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September 7, 2009 8:10pm
kaya

I wonder how long Kate Wilkinson will last? She would have to be the “weakest link” in the National Party today. Hmm.
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September 7, 2009 8:28pm
philu

our shameful child poverty stats/facts not worthy of comment/note there..dpf..?

‘cos fuck..!

any ‘solutions’ may involve you having to pay as bit more tax..eh..?

and we can’t have that..eh..?..

and aren’t all those who profess to care for children..(for ‘care’..read ‘smack’..

and who rail at sole parents and the like..

aren’t they all so silent/quiet on this issue..

..that you would think they would ‘care’ about..

..eh..?

and probably for the same reasons as you..eh dpf..?

(how does it go..?…n.i.m.b.p..?..not in my back pocket..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

[DPF: Best solution to child poverty is to get the parents off welfare and working]
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September 7, 2009 9:47pm
Hurf Durf

You have no right to talk about anyone’s contribution to the state while you continue to bludge off it, phool.

How about you donate a small amount of your bludge money to go to a group of people who actually need it?
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September 7, 2009 9:51pm
philu

shut the fuck up hurf..!

i’ll talk about whatever i want to talk about..

why don’t you answer the question..?..adress the subject..

we are near the fucken bottom of the list in caring for our children..

..we used to be at the top..

don’t you even have a spark of intellectual curiousity as to how this came about..?

as to wht ideologies/policies took us from te top..to the bottom..?

why so silent on this..?

and yet you will all scream for months on end for the ‘right’ to hit children..?

boy..!..are you some fucked up people..!

or what..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 7, 2009 9:56pm
Hurf Durf

Ooooh, someone’s stolen phool’s precious biscuit. What is it today, phool? You’ve been strangely quiet. Is it the referendum to smack, not hit, children? Is it the impending destruction of MMP? Is it Van Jones?
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September 7, 2009 10:04pm
philu

..DPF: Best solution to child poverty is to get the parents off welfare and working].”

and those children ..who thru accident of birth/w.h.y..are in that position..

they can just rot..eh..?

their lives hoisted on yr little rightwing cliche..?

and my question still stands..

this subject is not important enough for you to bother doing a post on..eh..?

bothy you and i know why you want this subject just closed down..eh..?

‘solving’ this .. to you..means beating up on the worst off even more..

and you know that any real ‘solutions’..will cost you in higher taxes..eh..?

(and you need every penny..eh..?

fuck the kids in grinding poverty..!

d.p.f. is a lot like roger douglas..

he must have his holidays..

..and more tax cuts..?

eh..?

oh..!..and where exactly are all these jobs..?..dpf..?

for these parents you want to ‘force off welfare’..?

once again..who gives a fuck..?..eh..?

they can just continue to rot..eh d.p.f..?

no ‘poor’ kids amongst those you ‘uncled’ to that island..?

eh..?

(fortunate ‘accidents of birth’ for them..?..was it..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 7, 2009 10:14pm
philu

you sneer from high on the hog farrar..

it just means you have a longer way to fall..

‘cos one thing we ain’t gonna need after the ‘crash’..

is polling/focus-groups..eh..?

your whole financial world is just gonna end..eh..?

you might even get a whole new perspective on poverty/hardship..eh..?

just how ‘secure’ is your government-money-fed/sustained house of cards..?

..anyway..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 7, 2009 10:20pm
Hurf Durf

Maybe if you started a business instead of bludged, those jobs would be there. Or maybe you could fuck off to Venezuela.

Though it’s interesting you talk of “accidents of birth,” considering you’re one of their number.
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September 7, 2009 10:20pm
philu

i mean..if you have half a brain..and one eye open..

you know that all this recession-is-over/’green-shoots’ talk is just absolute horseshit..

..and that we are headed for the mother of all crashes ..

(just one fact to ponder..the american govt fund used to prop up/buy failing banks..is nearly empty/tapped-out.

with many many more banks due to fail in the very near future..

and a ‘consumer-led-recovery’..?

that one is knee-slappingly ‘funny’..

why don’t you face up to all these realities/problems we all have ..as a country..in front of us..dpf..?

instead of just using your forum to peddle rightwing/govt propaganda..?

we are in deep shit..

and the longer we just ignore it..

the worse it will be..

wake up dpf..!

smell the depression..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 7, 2009 10:38pm
nickb

Wow phil, you’re even more hysterical and nonsensical today than usual, if thats possible.
Now can you please refute the obvious and proven links between welfare dependency and child abuse?
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September 7, 2009 10:53pm
Hurf Durf

you know that all this recession-is-over/’green-shoots’ talk is just absolute horseshit..

..and that we are headed for the mother of all crashes ..

I know. Thanks to left wing government intervention. “We’re all Keynesians now!” The growth that Australia’s gained is superficial and Britain’s going down the crapper soon.

..eh?..
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September 7, 2009 10:54pm
pentwig

Good grief!!

Have another hit of the bong phool, you are in fine form, ya social misfit.
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September 7, 2009 10:59pm
nickb

Haha agreed Hurf.
I sometimes engage with philu against my better instincts in the forlorn hope we may be able to make him see sense, unfortunately this is never successful and his hazy communist rants continue
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September 7, 2009 11:03pm
Patrick Starr

geez Phool you’re a joke.

why’s ‘accidents of birth’ my fucken problem. adopt them out – (or use protection)
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September 7, 2009 11:06pm
nickb

Philu, have a read of this:

http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=633

and

http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2009/09/time-to-do-nothing.html

Then telll us why you cant raise a child yourself and need other kiwis to pay for it, when many of us (myself included) who were raised by solo parents who just hardened up and worked hard to provide for us, isntead of being bitter, lazy and blaming everyone else
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September 7, 2009 11:09pm
Patrick Starr

“it just means you have a longer way to fall..”

so phool, what’s it like down there – can you show us all how to get a PC, internet and life long state support?

……and why are you so worried about the crash??? – you already did!
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September 7, 2009 11:19pm
starboard

shouldnt you be in bed whore..big day at work tomorrow…ppfffttt…
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September 7, 2009 11:27pm
kaya

Hmmmm apart from Philu’s personal attack shit in his last post I reckon the rest is pretty accurate. Hate to say it but the US economy and market has no clothes. It is only a matter of time before it implodes, or worse.
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September 7, 2009 11:38pm
kaya

I’ve got a HUGE day at work tomorrow, you know how it is – people to keep, tax to pay, bills to ignore.
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September 7, 2009 11:54pm
philu

heh..!..starr proves his ingrained ignorances..once again..

‘accident of birth’..dosen’t actually mean ‘illegitimate/unwanted…eh..?

numbnuts..!

(do you have anyone who could explain that ‘finer-point’ to/for you..?

(and i see treasury has announced (again!)..that ‘the recession is over’..

(who can forget their pre-election ;it’ll be all over just after christmas!’ howler..?

..eh..?

(how many times is that now..?..)

i guess if they just keep on saying it all the time..they will be ‘right’..once..

won’t they..?

(talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees…eh..?

these clowns can’t even see the thicket…)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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