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September 5, 2009 8:35am by David Farrar

General Debate 5 September 2009

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Buggerlugs

I see it’s not just Kiwi unionists who love ripping off the workers:
“In an unusual move, one of the locals in New York City’s largest municipal union was placed in trusteeship late Friday after its embattled president was faulted for losing $1 million in members’ dues in the stock market and buying a $41,000 Cadillac for her predecessor as a retirement gift.

Pointing to continued corruption problems at the municipal union, District Council 37, its Washington-based parent imposed a trusteeship on Local 2054, which represents 5,000 administrative assistants at City University, City College and city-run community colleges.”
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September 5, 2009 10:28pm
transmogrifier

Okay, you’ve got me. I truly have no idea what you are talking about. The questions here are simplified versions and the results are the results, and I’m still not sure what, in fact, your point is about anything here. (Except for the sailing girl, where at least I can understand your opinion, if not agree with it)
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September 5, 2009 10:29pm
Patrick Starr

“Personally, if she knows the risks and her parents know the risks, and they all still want to do it, what has that got to do with me?”

because responsible governments in western democracies have laws to ensure innocent children are looked after properly and are kept out of harms way. FFS how would she truly realise the risks at 13? – you’re barking mad. Did you say you teach our children? (fuck me)
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September 5, 2009 10:34pm
transmogrifier

PS: If it was my actual daughter, I wouldn’t let her go at all. But that doesn’t mean I condone the government controlling the decision of other families on this matter.
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September 5, 2009 10:34pm
transmogrifier

Again, don’t confuse my personal beliefs and actions with what I teach in class (fuck me)
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September 5, 2009 10:35pm
Patrick Starr

IMO it would be like agreeing to a 13 year old child volunteering for a war? – because a 13 y.o girl on a 26’ boat in open sea on her own she probably has as much chance of being killed as she would fighting in a war
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September 5, 2009 10:38pm
transmogrifier

And because the war would be fought by the government, they would be right to politely decline the plucky little volunteer.
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September 5, 2009 10:43pm
Patrick Starr

“and actions with what I teach in class (fuck me)”

if you’re a female send a photo – and I’ll have a think about it
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September 5, 2009 10:44pm
transmogrifier

Now I feel silly having actually spent all this time actually arguing with a 13 year old.
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September 5, 2009 10:46pm
Patrick Starr

well being a teacher you’re probably quite skilled at it by now – (do they usually win?)
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September 5, 2009 10:48pm
transmogrifier

If I want them to. Playing Devil’s Advocate is a wonderful thing.
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September 5, 2009 10:52pm
XChequer

Has anyone read Rod Oram’s take on the ETS in the SST yet?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/2837990/Burn-after-reading

It’s a strange planet this “financial maestro” is on.
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September 6, 2009 10:49am
KiwiGreg

@ GRAVEDODGER “scotch whiskey both blends and single malts ” seriously – no one who drinks single malts should even touch blends.

Rod Oram is a moron.

Oddly enough the Chinese are quite concerned about the environment, and (on the face of it) plan to do some pretty radical things about it.
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September 6, 2009 11:24am
philu

no xchecker..it is you who are on’the strange planet..

oram noted that tho’ the select comittee report has no real answers..

the one thing it does do..is to marginalise you lot to the knuckle-draggers corner..

he pithily encapsulate you…and your denialist-ideas..as

..’the dark forces of climate change deniers, self-interest pleaders and business flat-earthers..”

that pretty much sums it up..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 6, 2009 12:08pm
big bruv

Where the hell is DPF today?
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September 6, 2009 12:43pm
Patrick Starr

Philu – serious question.
In this ideal carbon emission free world of yours, where presumably we are all vegans, and free to take whatever drugs we choose, etc etc.. do YOU actually have a paid job – or (if money doesn’t exist) do you equally contribute to the society?
– or can you just continue to sit back and live off the sweat of others?
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September 6, 2009 12:55pm
billyborker

Adding to the DIY casualty figures?

Maybe he returned from Hawaii with Obama’s birth certificate and has to hide out from Redbaiter.
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September 6, 2009 1:03pm
gravedodger

Kiwigreg It is sad I know but it is a quality/quantity/price thing where the quantity thing is quantified by the price thing and single malts ( I was introduced to by my then Dr gawd bless him ) just don’t fit with the pension thing. I guess however things could be a lot worserer, I thingk.
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September 6, 2009 1:03pm
philu

starr:.. ‘serious question.’

which of those three sub-species indentified by rod oram

“..climate change deniers, self-interest pleaders and business flat-earthers..”..

..do you fall into..?

..or is it a ‘blend’..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 6, 2009 2:15pm
Patrick Starr

Phool, I was going to describe your ideal world as your ‘Nirvana’…………. but then remembered the staff of the chemist shop whose lives you wrecked when you traumatised them with a weapon during your armed robbery
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September 6, 2009 2:26pm
philu

you mean 3o+ years ago..?

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September 6, 2009 2:54pm

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