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General Debate 7 August 2009

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Falafulu Fisi

Nickb said…
Not sure, think you mentioned you worked at a Manukau law centre? Think I might have got confused here Fisi.

Nick, I think you’re talking about this person, Fale Andrew Lesa from another thread. If you search Kiwiblog for his name, it will bring up the message where he mentioned that he works at a Manukau Law Centre. He is a leftwinger, while I am a rightwinger, so not the same person or he might be Phil U or Sonic in disguise.
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August 7, 2009 2:13pm
nickb

Oh ok sorry Fisi. Good to see haha.
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August 7, 2009 2:16pm
nickb

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10589295

How was this able to happen?

An electrical contractor overcharges by $150,000.00 and no one notices?
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August 7, 2009 2:17pm
Kris K

Loco Burro 1:34 pm,
“Sotomayer confirmed by the US Senate as a Justice of the US Supreme Court – 68 Ayes 31 Noes”

… and the Obama express train to destruction continues to gain momentum.

Funny how many consider Obama to be the Messiah. I think most of his traits, beliefs and values are more akin to those of the Anti-christ.
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August 7, 2009 2:22pm
philu

“..Raising the minimum wage will not help us close any gap with Australia. The gap widened under labour in spite of their minimum wage increases..”

um..!..we had relative parity with australia until roger douglas..and his ‘great experiment’..

..where smashing unions..and keeping workers pay rates suppressed..was a key profit-factor./ideological-pillar.

..hence..the minumum wage rose by 87 cents..in the last nine years national were in power..

(and yes..labour also..(thru fear?) also embraced that ideology..

..and did little better..

now paradigm..if that isn’t how that wage gap happened..cd u enlighten us all as how it actually came about..?

..and how you would ‘solve it’..by not raising wages as part of any real formula..?

“..if you increase consumer costs and at the same time increase wages, you achieve nothing in real terms…”

not true..more money in at the bottom..churns straight back into the economy..

..thus ‘stimulating’ said economy..

“..In the long term nothing is “absorbed from profits”, either a firm can make a normal profit, or it will shut down..”

once again..cd u explain how those aussie firms..with their nearly 40% higher wages..

..how on earth do they keep their doors open..?..d’yareckon..?..

“..Australia did the hard yards to get their country into a position that their current wages are affordable. .”

um..!..no..!..their union movement/leaders had testicles..

..and stood up and said..”..no..you’re fucken not..!”

(as i’ve said before..ours just cowered into submission..

..and scuttled off into a corner..

..to await their knighthoods..for ‘services rendered’..

..(if ya didn’t laugh..you’d cry..eh..?..)

“..You might not understand this, but you cant just wave a magic wand and cure societies’ ills..”

no..but changes in direction/policies..and reducing inequalities..

..goes a reasonable way towards those goals..

“..interestingly all of this socialist policy philu advocates will only increase wage disparity: we have to pay people in demand an internationally competitive wage or they will bog off to another country, so failing to increase our country’s wealth will ultimately just reduce what is leftover for the drones, widening wage disparity..”

that’s a curly one..!..(as they say..)..eh..?..

..setting new benchmarks there in convoluted-thinking/reasoning..?

you have not successfully challenged any of the arguments i proffered..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 2:23pm
senzafine

303 New staff for WINZ.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2730836/Govt-boosts-number-of-Winz-staff
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August 7, 2009 2:28pm
Wanderer

Increasing the minimum wages does put more money into the hands of people who are more than likely to spend it, but the increased costs to the employer is very quickly passed onto the consumers.
Increasing the minimum wage may give them more money in hand, but will not necessarily increase their real wages as the cost of living also rises at the same rate and results in a money go round. We than have the reserve bank trying to control the rate of inflation and increasing the cost of borrowing again penalising the business and the consumer.
The only real way to increase real wages is to gain increase in productivity which will result in reduced costs and increase in profits and wages.
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August 7, 2009 2:41pm
paradigm

philu, i haven’t bothered to read past the first couple of lines of your illiterate scrawl and won’t. Neither I suspect will anyone else. Skimmed a bit and saw something about testicles, but thats not really my thing.

did see this bit:

um..!..we had relative parity with australia until roger douglas..and his ‘great experiment’..

More correctly, we had relative parity with Australia before the socialist economics of rob muldoon put us into enormous debt, we lost our preferential access to England’s markets as it looked to europe, and the rest of the world started to outstrip us with superior policy. Then we decided to strangle business with redtape.

and this gem:

you have not successfully challenged any of the arguments i proffered..

There has to be an arguement in order to challenge it 🙂
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August 7, 2009 2:43pm
Cerium

KK: “Funny how many consider Obama to be the Messiah. ”

You know that’s just a put down by his opposition. Which obviously includes you. (BTW I’m not an Obama fan)

GW actually said he thought he was the chosen one.
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August 7, 2009 2:46pm
Kris K

Cerium 2:46 pm,
You just need to look at the way ‘those in the crowd’ hold him in worshipful awe to see that, at least for them, ‘He’ approaches Messiahship.
It’s not a put-down, it’s just reality for those with eyes to see it.

“GW actually said he thought he was the chosen one.”
The obvious questions is, ‘chosen for what’?
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August 7, 2009 3:08pm
Rick Rowling

philu : rick rowling..are you bryan spondre..?

Nope. Never heard of him. Just googled him. Still rings no bells.
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August 7, 2009 3:08pm
Cerium

It might be the American way Kris – Palin gets that sort of attention too.

“The obvious questions is, ‘chosen for what’?” – for the crusade, chosen by the big dick.
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August 7, 2009 3:14pm
Cerium

Rick, philu seems to think anyone new might by Brian Spondre. I’m not sure if he has lost him or what the fascination is.
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August 7, 2009 3:15pm
philu

“..I’m not sure if he has lost him or what the fascination is..”

‘fascination’ may be too strong..

spondre admits using an ever changing number of troll-names.

..and paradigm..

thought you’d cut and run..eh..?

..wise..

those ‘freemarket/low-wage arguments don’t stand up to much scrutiny..eh..?

and..

that you didn’t understand the ‘illiterate scrawl’ of the first couple of lines..is understandable..

..the frst two are a direct quote from you..eh..?

bye..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 4:24pm
lukas

How to lose a poll on your own site in one easy step by Chris Carter!

http://lukewebster.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/poll-fail/
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August 7, 2009 4:58pm
paradigm

spondre admits using an ever changing number of troll-names.

Others just keep using the same one, perhaps they realise they’d be given away due to their posting style.. ..eh..

..and paradigm..

thought you’d cut and run..eh..?

Some of us do occasionally have to get on with work every now and then philu. Got to bring home the bacon as it were. Otherwise there’d be no tax to give you benefit money.

those ‘freemarket/low-wage arguments don’t stand up to much scrutiny..eh..?

They haven’t been scrutinised yet. Unless by scrutiny you mean writing a line of gratuetous punctuation, then making an inept comparison with Australia.

Philu likes to bring up the minimum wage in Australia, as if it is the cause of Australia’s wealth. He seems to ignore the fact that Australia taxes its people less overall and has a proportionately smaller government sector than NZ. Maybe that has something to do with its success. Maybe less RMA style regulation also helps. Perhaps Austrailia can tollerate a higher minimum wage because it is more productive, rather than being more productive because it has a higher minimum wage.
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August 7, 2009 5:02pm
philu

oh .!..right….!

..’had to get the bacon..’

so..did the bacon kill yr brain..?

i must have missed it..did you tell us how you would close the wage gap..without raising wages here..?

do you have a plan to lower them there..?

do tell..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 5:15pm
paradigm

so..did the bacon kill yr brain..?

No but I hear iron deficiency and substance abuse can. For several obvious examples, search for “philu”.

i must have missed it..did you tell us how you would close the wage gap..without raising wages here..?

Raising productivity will allow our economy to be able to support higher wages. They would then be naturally pushed up by the wage negotiation process.
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August 7, 2009 5:26pm
joeAverage

Poor old chris carter and the flak he is getting on NewstalkZB as he takes his partner/boyfriend along for carters MANY trips , you STUPID tax payers must understand carters EGO has to be stroked every night, remember after every hard day on every trip the ego has to be stroked HARD every night but this ego stroking makes you go bald, but then?????if thats your life style isnt it chris , ps enjoy the sweat of my brow chris and your male partner, trip on , spend more mate, the country dosnt need it PARTY ON
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August 7, 2009 5:28pm
Hurf Durf

..the simple reason being..that that money just churns straight back into the economy..spent on food etc..

Or, phool, it gets spent at other places and there’s no corresponding rise in business

I know you love jerking off theory a lot, but there’s only one empirical: that the free trade of goods and services at competitive prices set by the business owner to a consumer with the means to acquire it is the only real way an economy can work.
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August 7, 2009 5:52pm
Bok

Am I the only one that gets creeped out when a lowlife beggar leach and parasite starts ranting about Bill English?

It is a bit like listening to Graham Capill giving lectures on child rearing, only less honest. At least Capill is paying
for his crimes.

If it was not so damaging to some-one else (taking valuable support resourses away from those who really need it,
it would be funny to watch the halfwit rant on about the economy, But alas some poor child is suffering because he is
to lazy to work.

And “did the bacon kill your brain…”
From a dickhead who smokes pot and was a heroin addict.

Now that is funny.
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August 7, 2009 5:57pm
Hurf Durf

GW actually said he thought he was the chosen one.

Of course he was – chosen by the electorate. 😀
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August 7, 2009 5:58pm
philu

“..there’s only one empirical: that the free trade of goods and services at competitive prices set by the business owner to a consumer with the means to acquire it is the only real way an economy can work..”

and where does the worker/person providing the service the ‘business owner ‘ is able to ‘free trade’..?

where do they fit in..?

or do they not feature at all in yr equation..?

(don’t they and those ‘buy’ the products/services..?..

..are you not able to join those two dots..?)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 5:58pm
starboard

And “did the bacon kill your brain…”
From a dickhead who smokes pot and was a heroin addict.

Now that is funny.

..dont forget armed robber as well…eh whore…armed robber….
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August 7, 2009 6:03pm
Bok

I have just worked out why the fool is so “worried and concerned” for the welfare of animals. He wants to feel that he brings something to the world.
Every-one else he has “supported” has told him to fuck off. Even the greens for god sake!!!!!!

And the greens are happy to have the likes of Hager and Keith Locke!

At least the animals cannot tell him to piss off and must suffer in silence.
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August 7, 2009 6:04pm
philu

and when did you stop funnelling that coke up yr hooter..?..there..bok..?

and..any progress on the ‘food-issues’..?

..and..

..a friend is doing a period-piece movie..

..and needs an extra-extra-large short-pants karitane-yellow safari suit..

..have you finished with yours yet..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 6:05pm
Hurf Durf

Tax cuts and raising the minimum wage both fulfill the same basic principle – raising the amount of money in your pocket. The former does it by reducing how much you have to pay to the state, therefore everyone gets a least a small amount back. Raising the minimum forces small business to pay its employees more which forces it to raise its prices if it doesn’t want to have to sack any employees which results in the costs being passed on to the consumer so the consumer has the same amount of money as before anyway, and some businesses will have to cut its workforce considerably to survive anyway or close altogether.

You really don’t understand cause and effect, do you phool? I know it’s easy to say what the state can do with taxpayer’s money when you’ve never had to handle your own money anyway.

and where does the worker/person providing the service the ‘business owner ‘ is able to ‘free trade’..?

I’d answer that if it made any sense.
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August 7, 2009 6:09pm
Bok

Is that really your best?

Wow, the greens really lost a sharp wit when they
told you to take a hike. Luckily they have that rotten organic apple that
was sitting in bradfords lunchbox..

At least you had manners back then… I believe you asked the bank teller to hold your gun while you put your balaclava on…..
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August 7, 2009 6:11pm
philu

hurf..

of course a tax cut..(ie..for the lowest-paid..)..willl /wouldhave the same effect..

making the first 15 grand(?) tax-free..would also help a lot of low-paid people..

..and..didn’t understand..?

try again..”..

..and try reading it all in one breath..eh..?

“..and where does the worker/person providing the service the ‘business owner ‘ is able to ‘free trade’..?

where do they fit in..?

or do they not feature at all in yr equation..?

(don’t they and those ‘buy’ the products/services..?..”

ok..?..got that..?

and..bok..got anything else except insults..?

and as a self-confessed obese/ex-coke-snorting white sth african..

..who starts every sentence with ‘i’..

..has a ‘serious’ helmet-haircut..

..and has a penchant for that funniest of fashion-crimes..the karitane-yellow short-pant safari suit..

..you are really hurling from a glass house..

and..is that it..

i’m about to re-add you to my custom-built ignore-function..

..if i’ve got any questions about your (above listed) areas of expertise..

i’ll get back to ya..!

..eh..?

(hint:..eat less..!..and move more..!..

..make that yer mantra..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 6:32pm
wikiriwhis business

Anyone covered the night class funding loss yet.

Protest in Garden place today

Bit of a low blow really

People need to upgrade in a recession and education is being scuttled

That’s not a coincidence

Just wish people knw who John Key takes his policy decisions from.

Its not his cabinet btw.
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August 7, 2009 6:33pm
joeAverage

I thought,why bother posting my little rants about legal rorts when Philu opps/ the nut(opps thats not nice) a special poster rules the blogg way,Um philu do you use a flash drive to install your daily rants ,it seems like hours work do you use a 3 GB what brand and if you are unwaged as it seems,why you are wasting your little talent boring the great unwashed posters, get a job in the gummit, ripping us off philu, your posts sound like gummit speech
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August 7, 2009 6:35pm
Hurf Durf

“..and where does the worker/person providing the service the ‘business owner ‘ is able to ‘free trade’..?

where do they fit in..?

or do they not feature at all in yr equation..?

The employee (worker is such an unprofessionally Marxist word) offers his services to the employer and in return pays the employee a wage which the employee then uses to acquire goods and services off another business owner. It’s the three-layer employer-employee-consumer system. Is that not the basis of a natural, working economy?
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August 7, 2009 6:39pm
starboard

Anyone covered the night class funding loss yet.

..good job..you want pottery lessons or group hug classes pay for it yaself…
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August 7, 2009 6:46pm
Chthoniid

@davidp

I was using a Minolta 300/4 G lens (G lenses were Minolta’s top-tier lenses, like the L lenses of Canon) with a Sony 1.4x TC. It’s basically that level of quality that allows me to resolve very fine detail on the subject.

Quick clarification- this is a telephoto prime lens not a macro. A lot of wildlife photographers have (at least) one telephoto prime, as it delivers optimal sharpness at the long end. Zooms have a bunch of compromises inherent to the design, and typically yield softer images at the long end than a prime.

Macro lenses are also very sharp, but have a ‘long throw’ on the gearing. This makes them ideal for fine tuning close-up subjects (especially with manual focus), but the long throw makes them too slow to focus on moving subjects.
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August 7, 2009 6:52pm
philu

“..It’s the three-layer employer-employee-consumer system. Is that not the basis of a natural, working economy?..”

so why have a culture/ideology that actively supresses those wages/incomes..?

when we end up with what we have now..

..a low-wage economy..

..of working poor..

..unable to buy the goods/services on offer..

(doh..!..eh..?..)

gee..!..that ‘great experiment’ of roger douglas didn’t work out that well..eh..?

(except for him..of course..

..did you see that smirk on his face when he said the (almost) free-travel for life perk..

..was ‘negotiated’ ..during wage-negotiations for m.p.’s..?

..he had a good eye on ‘the long game’..eh..?)

phil(whoar.co.n)
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August 7, 2009 6:59pm
Hurf Durf

Like I said: it is the basics of an economy. Anything after that (taxation levels, minimum wage levels, freeness of trade) is up to the fuckwit theorists such as yourself.

..a low-wage economy..

..of working poor..

..unable to buy the goods/services on offer..

Don’t worry, that’s why we have the benefit! You seem to enjoy its provisions heartily.
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August 7, 2009 7:03pm
Steve

..sentences getting longer..
..got some commas some exclaimations..
..some mixed in the same sentence..
..must be top up time..
..to settle the fudge..
..eh..?
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August 7, 2009 7:11pm
philu

don’t forget that the moron hurf is on yr shit/ignore list..!

(repeat..!)

why..?

low-brain-wattage..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 7:24pm
getstaffed

phil, you should have looked at that ‘long game’ .. instead on languishing into your old age dependent, bludging, envious, and left with few life options.

if/when you become bitter you need only look in the mirror to find the source of your distress
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August 7, 2009 7:25pm
philu

ha ha..!..you know nothing of the intangibles that make a good life..

..that are in my life..

so..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 7:28pm
Hurf Durf

That’s lovely, phil. Truly yours is an intellect that would challenge Keynes, Krudman and Chumpsky.
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August 7, 2009 7:32pm
getstaffed

as yes – intangibles. the sense of self worth that comes from providing for my family. the knowledge that i’m contributing to our society rather than sapping from it – like you. the respect that comes from friends and peers who know about my charity work. the joy of providing (ok, previously provided!) employment for 100’s of kiwis. the satisfaction from setting a bit aside for my eventual retirement. ah, what would i know about intangibles.

stop living the life of a parasite phil. get a job – the income you earn will be irrelevant when compared with the dignity and self respect that you would gain.
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August 7, 2009 7:38pm
philu

wow..!..you really bought into that ‘arbeit macht frei!” myth/control-tool..eh..?

how about..

dogs..?

love..?

children..?

friends..

books..?

music..?

the country..

a healthy/’good diet..

yoga..

writing..

..just for starters..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 7:43pm
thedavincimode

Paradigm

“Was silly enough to be bothered reading philu’s link re minimum wage.”

Not at all. Its the ultimate test of mental disciple. Take a bow for getting to the end. I hope you didn’t cheat by taking sea sick pills or wearing those little wrist bands. How long did it take for the room to stop spinning?

And good to see the Big Magpie entering the minimum wage debate after all he he is on the minimum rate for the exchange of labour: zero.

NOW THEN PHIL. AHOY THE BIG MAGPIE. CALLING THE BIG MAGPIE. THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.

Phil, your shitlistometer still seems to be having problems. That’s a couple of times for me now in the last couple of days and I seem to recall it slipped up on someone else the day before that??

If its a hardware fault, then its a bit hard to tell from this end whether its one of those impossible to find intermittent faults. On the other hand, it might be operator error. Check if the chimp has started licking the ashtrays again, or worse, decided to cut out the middleman.
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August 7, 2009 7:49pm
getstaffed

sure phil. they’re all intangibles of the value of life. but they’re ranked lower than dignity and self-respect, which are mutually exclusive of your life of elective welfare dependency.
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August 7, 2009 7:50pm
Hurf Durf

You can have them and have a job, phool.
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August 7, 2009 7:57pm
Nomestradamus

Philu:

From Wikipedia:

“Arbeit macht frei” is a German phrase meaning “work brings freedom” or “work shall set you free/will free you” or “work liberates” and, literally in English, “work makes (one) free”. The slogan is known for being placed at the entrances to a number of Nazi concentration camps.

I’ve highlighted the key word just in case it has some kind of magical genie-bottle effect on you.

Now why do you say arbeit macht frei is a “myth/control-tool”? Is this yet another lame excuse for your stay-at-home lifestyle?
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August 7, 2009 8:00pm
philu

how are you stuffed..?

are you stuffed..?

are you old/breaking down..?

you are retired..we know that..

how’s it going..?

thriving..?

or sinking rapidly into dotage..?

how is spending some years to ensure the best is done for a child..lacking ‘dignity and respect’..?

know the cost of everything..and the value of very little..eh..?

(my condolances..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 8:02pm
philu

“..So why do you say arbeit macht frei is a “myth/control-tool”? Is this yet another lame excuse for your stay-at-home lifestyle?..”

no..i was referring to stuffed apparantly defining/valuing his life..by work/his work..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 7, 2009 8:08pm
getstaffed

phil, you’ve lied to yourself for so long that I genuinely believe you can’t comprehend the foolishness of your life choices.

Your elective welfare dependency is the very worst modeling for a dependent child. It’s not loving, nor is it kind or reasonable. So stop pretending that your disgraceful laziness is in the best interest of your son.

Just on that, when you are shortly thrown off the DBP, will you jump across to the unemployment or sickness benefit?
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August 7, 2009 8:23pm
thedavincimode

now now Phil … I know that was you …
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August 7, 2009 8:34pm
nickb

any small business ownders out there?

Hows business holding up in the recession?
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August 7, 2009 8:49pm
getstaffed

nickb – I’m [currently] an independent consultant/IT contractor. It’s pretty tough out there right now. I don’t have a contract so am busying myself with a charitable trust I work, and the ocassional rant here. When I apply for a role flipping hambugers and am declined then i’ll consider welfare. Not a nano-second before.

I was speaking with a c-level exec at a telco today. They said all contractors where wheeled in recently and told to trim 10% off their rate, or have their contracts terminated in 14 days.
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August 7, 2009 8:57pm
nickb

Sorry to hear that staffed, hope things get better for ya.
It sounds like you guys were in massive demand a while back, hopefully when things pick up you’ll have them banging your door down for work
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August 7, 2009 9:23pm
getstaffed

thanks nickb. these things go in cycles. work hard and put a bit aside for the lean times. right now i have time to commit to other things which is really cool. oh, and mrs getstaffed is happy… i’ve upped my housework quota significantly (and that has benefits!)
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August 7, 2009 9:52pm
nickb

haha good stuff. Yea hope things do pick up sooner rather than later. I’m studying but have a pretty safe job, but worry about my parents and relatives who are doing service and labouring jobs and the like, only takes business to turn sour and they’re out of a job.
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August 7, 2009 10:02pm
getstaffed

Govt boosts number of Winz staff

Another 303 frontline staff will be hired by Work and Income to help people find jobs, the Government said today.

Social Development Minister Paula Bennett said an extra $17.2 million was being invested to pay for them because of rising unemployment.

“Work and Income agreed it could manage numbers on the unemployment benefit up to 60,000,” she said.

“However, as that figure grows closer, extra staff will be required.”

There were 55,272 people on the dole at the end of July, documents released today showed

Anyone else confused by the two statements in bold? If WINZ could manage up to 60k, and there are 55k on the books … then why are more staff required? Could the $17m be used to help create jobs rather than deal with the absence of jobs?
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August 7, 2009 10:13pm
Patrick Starr

I’ve got a pretty good idea what Phool gets, its around. $636 per week, made up of $316 DPB – plus accommodation supplement, all his uni costs, community services card subsidies & home help worth at least $320 per week.
He’s previously said he has two kids so I’m anticipating he’s been on the DPB at least 15 years, so about $496k on todays $$
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August 7, 2009 10:20pm
nickb

haha nice Patrick
Fuck phil, almost more than all MP;s expenses combined when they were released.

Whos troughing again?
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August 7, 2009 10:38pm
Patrick Starr

and the MP’s actually contribute in some way – phool on the other hand………..?

(phool ‘l be up for long service leave soon)
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August 7, 2009 10:42pm
Nomestradamus

Patrick Starr:

I suppose, at a stretch, we could say Philu makes a community service contribution (that’d be Kiwiblog readers’ amusement) with comments like this:

btw..i am an active member of the ’stop mowing your lawns..!..for fuck sake..!” movement..
and haven’t mowed mine for over a year..
(you wait untill it is long enough..then you just walk it down/flatten it..
..the walked-down/broken stuff then breaks down..
..and a self-composting lawn develops..
..and a micro-environment..full of bug/insects/w.h.y..has developed..
..and the birds love it..!

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August 7, 2009 10:55pm
Patrick Starr

ha – i missed that one. I must do a drive-by with some roundup
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August 7, 2009 11:05pm
nickb

Haha yes nome, that was a classic alright
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August 7, 2009 11:08pm
paradigm

LOL Nomestradamus. Something worth mentioning. Much like the forrests at maturity philu’s lawn is doing little to combat greenhouse gas emissions. Having all those little creatures rushing around will be pumping copious amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere.

As such an ardent greenie, you’d expect him to control the fauna spawning in his lawn – for the sake of the planet.
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August 7, 2009 11:44pm
thedavincimode

Patrick

Your numbers need to be updated given that WINZ have just hired 303 people to try get the indolent little git back to work.
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August 8, 2009 5:43am
thedavincimode

er whoops, did I actually say BACK to work? Silly me.

and btw Patrick, roundup doesnt work on human weeds
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August 8, 2009 5:45am
Chthoniid

@paradigm

As such an ardent greenie, you’d expect him to control the fauna spawning in his lawn – for the sake of the planet.

Phool isn’t a greenie.

It’s just one more gratuitous attempt at seeking attention. It might press someone’s button if he claimed to be a greenie, just like he hoped that being a drugged-out parasite and ex-con would press buttons.

He’s an irrelevant poser who has no more claim to be a greenie than Joseph Hazelwood, captain of the Exxon-Valdez.

Much as I appreciate a good round of Phool-baiting, the guy is just a sad, pathetic fool; unable to discern his own lies from reality and has wasted what little talents he has.
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