General Debate 23 August 2009

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starboard

When’s Graeme Henry and co gona resign…
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August 23, 2009 7:10am
Whafe

He will not resign starboard, so wish he would, but the win has bought him a get out of jail free card……

It doesnt take away the fact that he is a hasbeen…..
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August 23, 2009 7:28am
Whafe

Awesome to see that the PC brigade / BSA has not pinged Paul Henry for his MOUSTACHE comment………

I love his staunch stand on this stuff…….
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August 23, 2009 7:30am
Patrick Starr

“When’s Graeme Henry and co gona resign…”

yeah, Robbie Deans may soon be available – he’s just lost 3 in a row!
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August 23, 2009 7:34am
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Top stuff from the BSA for once. Good on Paul Henry.
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August 23, 2009 7:38am
paradigm

When’s Graeme Henry and co gona resign…

More pertinent question might be when Joe Rokocoko will resign/get dumped. He still can’t recieve passes, and made some pretty big defense mistakes. Were their wingers able to catch passes, AB’s would have probably got 2 more tries at least.
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August 23, 2009 8:21am
Patrick Starr

watching Rokocoko last night he seems to be playing the league style battering ram, which clearly isn’t his game. (Its obvious he’s listened about isolating himself) Agree that Wayne Smith needs to do some hard work on both fijians sets of hands.
What should have been an easy game became a hard game to watch
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August 23, 2009 8:39am
hj

“Mana whenua” and the super city.

Our New Zealand Correspondent, Gillian Bradford, has been speaking to the head of Maori Studies at Auckland University, Professor Margaret Mutu, about why Maori believe they have a special claim on some waterways.

MARGARET MUTU: For centuries now, Maori have considered themselves to be what we call mana whenua, mana moana, which includes the European concept of ownership. So we do consider ourselves to have been the owners of the foreshore, the seabed and all of our lands.

And what the Crown is proposing here is to remove our ownership. Effectively, the Crown is proposing to steal our foreshores and seabed off us.
http://abc.net.au/common/copyrigh.htm
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August 23, 2009 9:06am
Adolf Fiinkensein

I had not known this shit stirrer from Up North now hides behind the respectability of the title ‘Professor.’

Let her stand for a seat on the Auckland City Council, put up a referendum for Auckland City ratepayers to see what sort of mandate there will be for special ‘Bro Seats.’

In the meantime, what about sending your correspondent to speak with some ordinary New Zealanders about why they believe such claims are spurious.
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August 23, 2009 9:20am
Glutaemus Maximus

As much as it pains me to say it.

I feel that I have to withdraw from posting on this wonderful website. I tried to do the same before, and I got the ‘harden up speech’

Tried it again, and unfortunately the useless tosser that is Philu got even more active!

Some other posters mentioned that I should start my own blog.

Not a chance. How would I ever compete with David’s amazing energy, insight, and panache?

Or many of the other smart Bloggers like Cactus, and WO.

I am just an ordinary hard working bloke with some attitude.

There are some very clever folks posting here on a regular basis. I even find Redbaiter amusing.

Even MS, although a mindless drone, he is amusing.

But the pond life that is Philu has far too much influence. Far too much ‘share of voice’, and I have zero respect for a bludging,

clever shit.

Can you imagine what his house looks like? When he spends all his time on a keyboard.

So folks, this is the real Adios, Bye, Au Revoir, Sayanora, Wiedersehn, and Fare ye Well!
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August 23, 2009 9:40am
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/more-evidence-that-marijuana-prevents-cancer/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 9:58am
Glutaemus Maximus

philu (5431) 0 1 Says:
August 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
http://whoar.co.nz/2009/more-evidence-that-marijuana-prevents-cancer/

phil(whoar.co.nz)

I will make it my mission to try and get all of your benefits stopped. Of that you can be assured.

Lazy, useless, tosspot!

Bye scumbag!
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August 23, 2009 10:06am
andrei

Glutaemus Maximus @ August 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am

So folks, this is the real Adios, Bye, Au Revoir, Sayanora, Wiedersehn, and Fare ye Well!

Glutaemus Maximus @ August 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am

I will make it my mission to try and get all of your benefits stopped. Of that you can be assured.

So Goodbye forever lasted exactly 26 minutes by my reckoning
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August 23, 2009 10:11am
paradigm

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/more-evidence-that-marijuana-prevents-cancer/

philu’s continued existance seems to contradict his latest entry title..
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August 23, 2009 10:13am
Glutaemus Maximus

Thanks Andrei!

You have no idea how much it upsets me to have a filching shit like Philu dominating a very good website.

You are a bit of a clever twat anyway, so I am hardly worried!
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August 23, 2009 10:21am
philu

this explains it paradigm..

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/7-delicious-meat-alternatives-and-not-a-lick-of-tofu-in-sight/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 10:27am
Redbaiter

Thought this post from the “Flopping Aces” blog was worth repeating here. This is only part of it. Full text at-

http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/08/22/thank-you-fox-news-reader-post/

THANK YOU FOX NEWS

Thank-you, Fox News. Thank you for reporting the news other networks ignore. Thanks for not condescending to the great unwashed by informing us how we should think on a given subject.

Thank-you for not adopting the patronizing, elitist attitudes that have become de rigueur on most other networks. Thank-you for recognizing that Americans have the right to information from both sides of the aisle and are fully capable of making up their own minds on issues, given enough facts.

Thanks, Fox, for actually questioning the incessant spin coming from Camp Obama. No one else is. If not for your reporting, most Americans would still be unaware of the depth of ‘change’ our president is proposing. Even though the old media succeeded in getting Obama elected, thanks to you, Americans are finally being given access to information they should have had before they voted. Better late than never.

Thank-you, Fox, for caring more about journalism than about access to self-anointed elites, and cocktail party invites from the inside the beltway crowd.
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August 23, 2009 10:35am
wikiriwhis business

Glutaemus Maximus,

I understand your frustration but I will reaffirm your own blog

It’s not just you, it’s everyone. I know you’ll get the support.

I mean, how can Philu have so much influence that your voice is lost forever on the internet.

Its just not rational.

But I won’t harp on, you’ve made a deeply thought decision, so be it.

I am though very curious how you are going to go about disrupting philu’s benefits.

wompeys@hotmail.com if you want to give me some insight.
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August 23, 2009 10:47am
Redbaiter

“You have no idea how much it upsets me to have a filching shit like Philu dominating a very good website.”

Always knew you were a quitter.

What would the real Gluteamus do?

You are a disgrace to the name you assume.
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August 23, 2009 11:00am
Repton

@Glutaemus: If you use Firefox as your web browser, I can show you how o silence PhilU so you never see his poss again.

(alas, is a little harder to hide posts responding to him)
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August 23, 2009 11:01am
Glutaemus Maximus

Thanks Red, made feel so much better! It’s comments like that, that make me feel frustrated.

Repton, I do use Firefox from time to time! Please tell me more!

You are never alone with Shcizophrenia!
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August 23, 2009 11:07am
Redbaiter

Gluttonous, if you’re going to write anti-collectivist, anti-socialist, anti-Progressive stuff on the internet, then you just have to learn to live with-

Lies, smears, arbitrary post deletion and partisan censorship, banning, mockery, false allegations, sneers, cowardice, deceit, being swamped by truckloads of opinion from arrogant brainwashed uninformed socialist troglodytes and generally being disparaged and hated.

If you can’t hack all that stuff, then sure, go away you gutless loser.

This after all is just boot camp.

Best the sheep are sorted early in the piece.
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August 23, 2009 11:11am
Glutaemus Maximus

There is a thin line between compulsive, and obsessive.

It is called a hyphen!
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August 23, 2009 11:11am
Glutaemus Maximus

So Red, what constitutes success for you?

I may be a gutless loser in your eyes, but do I give a shit?

Done 3 doses of boot camp. Bet you haven’t. The last was the hardest.

CTCRM is a bit hardcore. Still got through it!

And you?
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August 23, 2009 11:16am
Redbaiter

“And you?”

I’m not the one childishly cutting off my nose to spite my face.
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August 23, 2009 11:18am
Repton

@GM: First, you will need to install the Greasemonkey add-on. Go to Tools->Add-ons, search for it, and install it.

Then, go to Tools->Greasemonkey->New user script. It may ask you to choose a text editor. Pick your favourite.

For the name, enter something like “Kiwiblog killfile”. Namespace is a URL; it should be my website but I don’t have one, so maybe http://kiwiblog.com/ will do. The most important field is the Includes; enter the next four lines:

http://kiwiblog.com/*
http://www.kiwiblog.com/*
http://kiwiblog.co.nz/*
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/*

Finally, when you get a chance to enter the script itself, copy-and-paste the following:

// start here
var killlist = /Redbaiter|philu/;

var comments = document.getElementsByTagName(’li’);

if (comments.length) {
for ( var i = comments.length – 1; i >= 0; i– ) {
var comment = comments[i];
var cites = comment.getElementsByTagName(’cite’);
if (cites.length) {
var cite = cites[0];
var title = cite.textContent;
if (killlist.test(title)) {
comment.parentNode.removeChild(comment);
}
}
}
}
// end here

This will silence Redbaiter (since I don’t care about American conspiracy theories) and philu. Add more or less as you wish; separate the names with | characters.

The process looks complicated but it’s not too bad, really.
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August 23, 2009 11:24am
philu

(slight re-edit..)

“..if you’re going to write collectivist, humanist, Progressive stuff on the internet, then you just have to learn to live with-

Lies, smears, arbitrary post deletion and partisan censorship, banning, mockery, false allegations, sneers, cowardice, deceit, being swamped by truckloads of opinion from arrogant brainwashed uninformed rightwing troglodytes and generally being disparaged and hated..”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 11:28am
philu

but but repton..!

what about the responses to those killed commenters..?

it could make threads quite surreal..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 11:32am
Manolo

“This will silence philu.”

That “killer” routine is worthy of inclusion. The notion of getting rid of the bludger / parasite is too good to pass.
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August 23, 2009 11:50am
Redbaiter

Of course you could all post on Crusader Rabbit.

http://crusader-rabbit.blogspot.com/

Phil would last about a nanosecond there.

NZ’s only real right wing blog.

KG don’t feel any pathetic PC need to share his platform with Progressives.
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August 23, 2009 12:22pm
Redbaiter

“This will silence Redbaiter (since I don’t care about American conspiracy theories)”

Guess what retard. Neither do I care for the waffle of ignorant narrow minded and parochial hillbillies like you, who would be better off posting letters to Woman’s Weekly than commenting on blogs, but I merely choose not to read them, and I do not need any automated device that seems primarily designed to counter compulsion.

Make sure you implement your system, but rest assured that if I ever find you responding to a Redbaiter post or participating in discussion on a subject I have initiated, I will most forcibly remind you of your rancid and ignorant hypocrisy.
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August 23, 2009 12:40pm
tom hunter

Repton

Installing Greasemonkey and building the script was very easy – but it does not work – I can still see Philu’s comments. I see the Greasemonkey site only refers to Firefox 3.1 and I’m already on 3.5.2, which has had problems according to many users.

Javascript is enabled of course but apart from a simple Works/Doesnotwork I can’t tell if the script is executing or not.

Am I missing a step here, or am I doomed, Sisyphus-like, to rolling the tracking ball forever?
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August 23, 2009 1:26pm
nickb

Thanks Repton, good stuff
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August 23, 2009 1:27pm
Repton

@Tom: One thing you can try:

Go to Manage User Scripts, edit the kiwiblog script, and add this line to the end:

window.alert(‘Done!’)

If the script runs, that will pop up a dialog box saying “Done!” when it finishes running. If that doesn’t happen then you know the script is not running.

Another thing you can do is go to Tools->Error console and look for error messages relating to the script.

Also make sure that Greasemonkey is enabled 😉
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August 23, 2009 1:40pm
tom hunter

Repton

Thanks for that. Looks like the script is just not working as the dialog box did not appear. I just tried this on a Powerbook running only Firefox 3.1 and got the same result.

The error console showed:

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception… “Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsILocalFile.normalize]” nsresult: “0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)” location: “JS frame :: chrome://greasemonkey/content/config.js :: anonymous :: line 478” data: no]

Anyhoo, I will regard this as yet another mundane debugging task and move on for the moment.
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August 23, 2009 3:06pm
philu

um..!..you cd try just not reading my comments..?

they are easily recognisable..

just steel yr eyes..

..and let them slide past..

or..let scroll be yr friend/guide..

(just trying to ‘help’ here..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz
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August 23, 2009 3:12pm
philu

i mean..i find it easy to scroll past those boring screeds posted by say..tom hunter..?

much as i used to do with ..say..kiwinamerica/bird..

.eh..?

it’s easy..!

if you really don’t like someones’ writing..

(mind you..if you are are fighting a strange fascination/’compulsion’ to read my every word..?..

eh..?..

welll that’s a whole other story..

..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 3:20pm
kaya

Interesting view of the US economy….

http://dailyreckoning.com/no-recovery-not-now-not-ever/
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August 23, 2009 3:37pm
Patrick Starr

“it’s easy..! if you really don’t like someones’ writing..”

yeah, I tried something similar last summer with blow flies. As much as I try to ignore them they still piss me off
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August 23, 2009 3:44pm
KiwiGreg

LOL US economy is already in recovery. Leading indicators have never been so positive for apost-war recession. Froget the unemployment stats as they will continue to worsen, employment is always a lagging indicator.
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August 23, 2009 3:55pm
Ruth

The Daily Reckoning is never interesting – they have been permabears for the last 20 years and missed every bull run. They are losers of the highest order. Meanwhile my USD1 bank shares are looking good. I have never had such a good year in investing.
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August 23, 2009 4:00pm
KiwiGreg

@Ruth As I tell our most bearish analyst (you need at least one for balance) – even a stopped clock is right twice a day, it still doesn’t make it any use.
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August 23, 2009 4:01pm
kaya

Ruth – hope your shares keep performing. I know little about economics but that article seemed to make logical sense.

KiwiGreg, the only recovery in the US is on the back of billions being thrown at it by the Fed, they can’t keep doing it. Sooner or later they have to address their debt.
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August 23, 2009 4:30pm
Owen McShane

Research shows farm soil is absorbing greenhouse gases at a greater rate than cattle produce them.

When will we joint the real world?
>
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/200908/s2649292.htm
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August 23, 2009 5:02pm
side show bob

“When will we join the real world”, when we vote in a government with a set of nuts and half a brain.
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August 23, 2009 6:36pm
Michaels

A far smarter move would be for DPF just to ban a few people.
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August 23, 2009 7:01pm
Michaels

And would you cry baby Robbie Deans fans please quietly STFU!!!
Henry’s win/loss means he stays. Long live SIR HENRY!!!!
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August 23, 2009 7:03pm
philu

and hey..!

you all just keep on knecking that ham..and bacon..eh..?

we don’t want to lose our top global ranking in the bowel cancer stakes..

eh..?

(just ignore the fucken hippies..!..eh..?..)

bacon and eggs for breakfast..?..eh..?

and make sure the kids get some..eh..?

(cf..our global bowel-cancer ‘record’..eh..?)

..and some ham sandwiches..?

for lunch..?..

and for the kids school lunch..?

..and aren’t we all looking forward to those weeks of xmas ham..eh..?

roger ‘it’s my holiday..!..and you’ll pay for it!’ douglas used to peddle dead pigs..

..didyaknowthat..?

..c’mon..!..eat up..!

yer doing it for noo zeeland..eh..?

the foul muck should come with cancer-warning signs ..

..like cigarettes have to..

..eh..?

(and then there is ‘white-death’..milk..(yech..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 7:23pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

David, Jesus Christ himself used to hang out with lepers and prostitutes but even he, eventually, got the whip out.
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August 23, 2009 7:29pm
philu

et tu adolf..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

and i missed that part in the bible..the ‘whip’ bit..

gotta reference..?
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August 23, 2009 7:42pm
Repton

David, Jesus Christ himself used to hang out with lepers and prostitutes but even he, eventually, got the whip out.

Yeah — to use on the moneylenders..
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August 23, 2009 8:17pm
wikiriwhis business

philu,,

Matthew 21:12
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August 23, 2009 8:36pm
philu

is that the bit where he doth smote the sole-parents..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 8:41pm
Hurf Durf

I’ve eaten ham and bacon all my life. It’s delicious and filling. I will not stop eating it. Why? Because I don’t care. Life’s too short to worry about potentially getting cancer when I could be wiped out tomorrow by some dickhead texting while driving.
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August 23, 2009 9:18pm
wikiriwhis business

Philu,

there were no sole parents or solo parents.

there were no teen age parents unable to support themselves and there were no child murders.

there were no abortions and there were no PC Green’s/socialists.

and if three witnesses saw you kill someone you died, no q’s. Three people saw you do it.

so simple, should be how it is today. I would surmise Nia Glassie would be alive today if such was the case

CYF’s would be completly un needed. Most bureaucracy would be. Stupid Romans/Washington.
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August 23, 2009 9:22pm
philu

right-oh..!..hurf..

carry on..!

and..just so we are clear here..

you will give bacon/ham to your children..?

..even knowing the bowel cancer causing connection..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 9:37pm
philu

wiri..where/when exactly was this child murder-free ‘paradise’..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 9:40pm
getstaffed

He’s concerned about others’ kids eating bacon.. while he models drug abuse to his own son. Go figure.
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August 23, 2009 9:40pm
Hurf Durf

Considering I haven’t had cancer yet, yes, I will. I assume you’ve never exposed your children to Marijuana?
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August 23, 2009 9:41pm
philu

did you hear over the weekend..?

new scientific proof that marijuana helps prevent cancers of the head/kneck..

http://whoar.co.nz/?s=cancer

and no..my son is not exposed to marijuana smoke..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 23, 2009 10:14pm
transmogrifier

I’m not sure what it is about philu that gets everyone so riled – he writes in a format that makes his drivel super easy to skip when scanning through a thread. Ignore him and he will wither and die on the vine; have a hissy fit and ban yourself over him, and give him all the justification he needs to keep posting here.
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August 23, 2009 11:19pm
RAS

Sadly, Repton’s script didn’t work for me either 🙁
Is there some way David could add a killfile to comments in WordPress?
…and would he do it if we asked nicely?
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August 24, 2009 1:16am
ophiuchus

I second RAS’s request
I managed to get Greasemonkey installed and enabled but I couldn’t get the script to function.
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August 24, 2009 1:49am
MikeNZ

where is John Keys brains?
Has he got no fkng integrity?
I don’t want reassurance, I want the law changed!
I do not want to break the law if I give my kids a smack on the bum.
how hard is this to understand?
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August 24, 2009 8:35am
wikiriwhis business

“where/when exactly was this child murder-free ‘paradise’..?”

phil(whoar.co.nz)

In an age the Fabian Socialists across the board took away.
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August 24, 2009 9:10am
philu

so..must be ninteenth century..?..(given the ‘fabian/socialist’ timeline..eh..?

(um..!..have you ever done any reading on the social conditions of those earlier ‘golden eras’..?

do you read..?

maybe you could ease yourself into those realities..

..by reading some charles dickens..?

..to begin with..?

so..you think it started all going wrong around about the time of one of the early fabian socialist ‘victories’..?

..getting ‘wimmen’ the vote..?

..eh..?

(you really haven’t got a clue about what you are trying to talk about..eh..?..

..save for some yearnings for a halcyon time when ‘men were kings’..

..eh..?

(heh..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 24, 2009 10:46am
KiwiGreg

I see the main difference between scaremongering to control our lives over swine flu and global warming is that we find out the swine flu was a beat up before lasting damage has been done.
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August 24, 2009 11:04am
Hurf Durf

Because there’s no 24th August General Debate yet, I shall post it here.

The 19th of August, last Wednesday, was a momentous day 20 years ago. It was the day a non-Communist government took office in Eastern Europe since the end of WWII and another step in the day of the totalitarian empire, the Soviet Union. You’d be surprised, though, considering the total lack of any press coverage. TV3, on the other hand, chose to commemorate another anniversary this month – the 40th anniversary of Woodstock. No, not political bias there, no Sir.
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