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June 5, 2009 7:21am by David Farrar

General Debate 5 June 2009

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Chthoniid

Crikey, another early start for DPF…

Here’s a couple of lorikeet shots to start the morning all chirpy like.

http://chthoniid.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p53245499-4.jpg

http://chthoniid.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p445498873-5.jpg

Now…where’s that Sumatran coffee hiding.
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June 5, 2009 7:34am
Bok

Chthoniid
Get my email? It’s a great idea, you should have a crack.
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June 5, 2009 7:41am
jims_whare

I guess Dr worth(less) wont be listening to the lorikeets this morning………more like getting nervous each time he hears a police siren in the distance………For a bloke who has had considerable academic and business success you would think being part of a government that had a goal of cleaning up crap like this from happening……..you would think that he would engage his big brain(??) before trying to wave his little brain when ever he could…….The person I feel sorry for in this matter is Mrs Worth……..what a sleaze bag husband she ended up with…………Worth(less) needs to get a book of wedding vows over the next 2 weeks and study them to see what they actually mean.
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June 5, 2009 7:58am
toad

For those who are game, today is Dead Duck Day.

Have lots of fun at Trevor’s expense folks..
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June 5, 2009 8:07am
fredinthegrass

Thank you Chthoniid – a case of a little joy becoming a lot of colour.

Staying with the Arabica this morning as I start to write a blog piece
about the coffee houses I visit.
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June 5, 2009 8:19am
mickysavage

Toad

“For those who are game, today is Dead Duck Day.”

Do you really think that Richard Worth and the National party deserve their own day?
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June 5, 2009 8:39am
Murray

We’ve already had one of those, we called it the election.

Now you’re being shown how to deal with bad MP’s properly. Not by covering their asses for a year or two. That your way and one of the reasons you were tossed out on your collective asses last dead duck day.
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June 5, 2009 8:44am
getstaffed

Hey Chthoniid – great pics. I look for your post every friday. If you’re into coffee and, um as it were, animals then check our Kopi Luwak sometime. Tastes great so long as you don’t think were the beans have been.
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June 5, 2009 8:53am
stephen

Hopefully I don’t get fired for clicking toad’s link…
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June 5, 2009 8:55am
GJ

Anyone heard what is happening with the Taito Philip Fields case. It has been incredibly quiet and the court has been sitting for some weeks.
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June 5, 2009 9:26am
Inventory2

That’s easy GJ – it hasn’t been to the Privy Council yet, and it’s not as sexy as shooting your family – of course, that comment applies regardless of whether David or Robin dunnit!

Oh, and on further reflection – all the above, plus Joe Karam hasn’t written a book about TPF – yet 🙂
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June 5, 2009 10:11am
Murray

Theres another waste of our bloody time and money.

I don’t even care if he did it or not. He present as much danger to the public as a bad hair day and hes already done more time than most killers. This just expensive reality tv for the terminally myopic.
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June 5, 2009 10:16am
big bruv

Murray

DB killed five people, like you I am disgusted that we tax payers have to fund this piece of shits legal costs but the fact remains that he murdered five family members.

There is no way at all that he should ever be let out of prison, if I had my way he would be found guilty and then taken out the back of the court and shot.
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June 5, 2009 10:27am
Murray

BB have you gotten the virdict because I’m not aware of one yet.

If hes guilty then the justice system is responsible for the waste of time and money by running a crap prosecution first time round.

And as for not being let out well I’m all for captial punishment. But remains no threat to anyone currently alive.
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June 5, 2009 10:43am
Chthoniid

@fredinthegrass

Thank you Chthoniid – a case of a little joy becoming a lot of colour.

Staying with the Arabica this morning as I start to write a blog piece
about the coffee houses I visit.

Thanks- I figure by the end of the week it’s good to take a couple of seconds/minutes off to appreciate the natural world.

Parenthetically, where’s your blog located?
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June 5, 2009 10:57am
Murray

On the internweb.
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June 5, 2009 11:01am
Chthoniid

Hey Chthoniid – great pics. I look for your post every friday. If you’re into coffee and, um as it were, animals then check our Kopi Luwak sometime. Tastes great so long as you don’t think were the beans have been.

he he, after a couple of zoology degrees and being up to my armpits in a wide range of animals, I’m not particularly squeamish.

I developed a great addiction passion for coffee doing my PhD. And at the volumes drunk, you have to stick to the good stuff… Must give the kopi luwak a try sometime.
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June 5, 2009 11:08am
Colonel Masters

Why do people say Bain no longer poses any threat? The guy is an absolute whack-job.

I certainly wouldn’t want him staying in my house and the jury were mighty concerned about having a loaded rifle on the table near him!

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But remains no threat to anyone currently alive.

Now, why is that? Because he offed everybody else :-p
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June 5, 2009 11:09am
Fisiani

To all you hotheads claiming David Bain is the killer answer this fact.
The killer’s sockprint was 280mm. That is a proven fact and conceded by all. David Bain’s foot measures 300mm
No reconstruction by scientists employed by the police or Crown in all the years since the crime have ever found a way for a 300mm foot to make a 280mm sockprint. It is impossible!
Robin Bain’s foot (measured lying down, seriously, i’m not kidding, lying down) measured 270mm and could easily have made a sockprint 280mm long.
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June 5, 2009 11:18am
MT_Tinman

“# Murray (3327) Vote: Add rating 2 Subtract rating 2 Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am
And as for not being let out well I’m all for captial punishment. But remains no threat to anyone currently alive.”

Anyone who can kill/kills five people in cold blood is always going to be a threat to the community.
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June 5, 2009 12:57pm
backster

BRUV and MURRAY:…………Why worry about the cost of Justice…According to GOTLEIB from the Law Society the cost of this trial is twentyfive million.
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June 5, 2009 1:05pm
Portia

Fisiani – check your own foot – it is possible to contract the arch, squish your toes and therefore, change the size of your footprint.

Apparently, when someone runs or exercises regularly, the muscles in their feet can strengthen and the lower arch become higher and more taut (think a ballet dancer’s foot). So, when they walk, their footprint will be smaller. On the other hand, if that muscle slackens due to lack of exercise, then their footprint will be longer.

Bain used his paper run to keep fit and apparently used to jog through it. After a few years in prison, his feet muscles wouldn’t necessarily be as strong.

Also, the tests that showed his footprint was larger than the 280mm were done years after the event, and at a time when he knew what results were going to be of most value to him. So, in other words, he would have been as heavy-footed as possible, and stretched his toes out to the max.
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June 5, 2009 1:21pm
Fisiani

Portia

For goodness sake. What you say is true BUT your assertion of possibility has all been disproven forensically ad nauseam which is why the Crown never ventured such a possibility. Despite what you say you still cannot get a reading of 280mm even if you are employed by Cirque du Soleil. Remember that this was a sockprint that only showed on luminol staining and was invisible to the naked eye. ie. David was crouching his stealthy steps in a superhuman way yet still maintaining a normal sockprint with A NORMAL ARCH PATTERN OF INSTEP …….AND FLAT TOES. As I said yesterday. Slam dunk for not guilty 12-0
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June 5, 2009 1:59pm
big bruv

backster

I do not give a shit if it costs me another 25 million, when we waste so much more on DPB and associated benefits for bludgers 25 million for another trial is a drop in the ocean.

This low life killed five innocent people for reasons I suspect have more to do with his own depraved behaviour rather than the accusations levelled at his father.

I heard somebody on Radio Live this morning make the point that the evidence the defence used to lay the blame at Robins feet would never be enough to see the case come to court, in my opinion it is scandalous that they (the defence) can attempt to blame the father when the evidence against him is so slim.
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June 5, 2009 2:00pm
big bruv

Fisani

You desperately hold onto the one highly contentious piece of evidence that might (only if you want to believe OJ Bain is innocent) suggest that the father was the killer while turning a blind eye to the mountain of evidence that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that OJ Bain killed his family.

If the Jury has an open mind and judges the trial on the evidence presented then the ONLY conclusion they can come to is that OJ Bain is guilty.
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June 5, 2009 2:10pm
Fisiani

BB one contentious piece of evidence must equal NOT GUILTY. Which part of that do you not understand? You cannot ignore it. It’s the elephant in the room
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June 5, 2009 2:16pm
NOt1tocommentoften

Fisiani – you clearly miss the point – one you seem to make yourself. Contentious does not equal conclusive. You admit above that there is always a possibility that it could have been David. As BB mentioned, it is necessary to assess this piece of evidence in light of the rest of the evidence – both the evidence that points towards Bain as the killer and that which doesn’t.
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June 5, 2009 2:20pm
Fisiani

BB claims it is contentious. Forensics says conclusive. Not Guilty
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June 5, 2009 2:28pm
NOt1tocommentoften

Glad there is a jury deciding and not you then F.
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June 5, 2009 2:32pm
freethinker

BB – disappointed that you are so certain on your knowledge which is likely to be less complete than the juries who have yet to reach a decision. Usually I agree with your reasoning but in this matter you offer no reason just bias which demeans your otherwise sane postings – sigh.
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June 5, 2009 4:06pm
Fisiani

Thank God the jury saw sense
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June 5, 2009 4:48pm
big bruv

Saw sense?…they are obviously mind numbingly fucking stupid.

One thread of satisfaction I take from this is that the bastard is not going to get one red cent from the government.
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June 5, 2009 4:50pm
wreck1080

and bain must get a huge payout.

the cops lied and manipulated evidence to get the first conviction.

Pricks.
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June 5, 2009 4:52pm
MyNameIsJack

Hey big bruv

NOT GUILTY
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June 5, 2009 4:52pm
Fisiani

You will be as wrong in that assertion also by a country mile or in his case Million+
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