General Debate 4 May 2009

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Grant Michael McKenna

Maori Party co-leader Tariana Turia wants to send a delegation to Fiji to meet Commodore Frank Bainimarama; a perfect chance for a bit of a rethink on the issue as being ‘forced’ by alliance partners. Sticking to the sanctions route without flexibility simply means that the coup continues.
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May 4, 2009 8:06am
RainbowGlobalWarming

With the weather closing in NZ an entreprenuerial politician looks for any opportunity for a paid tropical visit.
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May 4, 2009 8:22am
cha

Jack Kemp, Bob Dole’s running mate and New York congressman dead at 73.
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May 4, 2009 8:22am
gladstone

David – a couple of questions, (if you would be so gracious)
Is it standard practice to receive 20 demerits for implying that an MP is fat?
I ask because I read far worse things said about the likes of Helen Clark but you take no action there. Does demeriting only apply when National Party Mps are taunted? It seems hypocritical and I’m sure you don’t mean to be a hypocrite!
Secondly, I noticed that yesterday, you threatened to give greenfly (annoying arse that he is) demerits if he ‘impersonated’ you, which he then proceeded to do. You then banned him for life. There seems to be a disconnect with what you said you would do, and what you did do.
I looks very inconsistent and smells like bullying to me!

[DPF: As you are posting from the a similiar e-mail address and same IP address as Greenfly, you should not talk about him in the third person. And your deliberate ignoring of my warning was enough to convince me you are a troll whose only intention is to disrupt. The demerits are a guide, not a straitjacket for me.]
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May 4, 2009 8:27am
CraigM

Bloody Vodafone. USELESS.

Daughter had her cell phone stolen on saturday night. Sunday morning call to Vodafone to have the account cancelled was a joke. Automated response that says it is out of hours then lists the times to call etc..after a long wait there is finally a “push ###” if you have had your phone lost or stolen….yay..but not quite..

Some nice young chap in India tells me I can’t call, my daughter has to, even though I have her pin and she’s at work. She calls during a break but nooo, she needs me to call as I own the account, which I told the nice man in India in the first place. So back I call to be told my daughter needs to call…..on and on we go for an hour.

Once it was sorted the nice man from India had a polite parting comment “you know you will charged for cancellling your contract early”…
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May 4, 2009 8:28am
RainbowGlobalWarming

Dear gladstone,

Go away you pinko commie troll.

love
xxx
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May 4, 2009 8:31am
Tuija

I guess if Vodafone is that bad the “market” will sort it out
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May 4, 2009 8:31am
CraigM

Heard on the news this morning that Roger Douglas has said that Clark begged him to come back as Finance Minister.

I hope this doesn’t get ignored in the media as it shows just how two-faced, hypocritical and dishonest she is.

My only concern is that Douglas should have said something much earlier! Publicly they treated him like a leper, why did he protect her & Cullen? (I am assuming Douglas is being honest, never know him to be otherwise)
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May 4, 2009 8:34am
RainbowGlobalWarming

Like elections, you toss out the useless twats.
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May 4, 2009 8:34am
dad4justice

Wow! Jack Frost has nuked the place and stuffed me tomatoes. Anyway galdstone, are you greenflee’s ugly fat twin sister?
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May 4, 2009 8:41am
Murray

The important issue is the question of whether greenfly is actually claiming three salaires from the greens for his paid trolling activities by having a mutliple personality disorder (along with just plain having a generally shit personality).

And yes toad, Wussle Noman Voted For Me does have a profile, you guys provide it. Good advertising as the nasty party. We expect the results of your dumpster diving research shortly.
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May 4, 2009 8:57am
RainbowGlobalWarming

NZX farm media buy sparks competition complaint
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10570230
New 9:40AM Monday May 04, 2009

NZX’s acquisition of farming publisher Country-Wide has sparked a complaint to the Commerce Commission.

The complaint was made by Max Bowden, publisher and editor-in-chief of Trans Tasman, The Main Report and an agricultural newsletter, who said he believed the acquisition breached the Commerce and Fair Trading Acts.

He said he was deeply concerned that NZX was trying to act both as a regulator and a player in the rural publishing market, The Dominion Post reported today.

Bowden said he was particularly worried about an internal memo sent to staff on Tuesday by NZX business acquisitions manager Rachael Cross.

“The acquisition will enable us to corner the market as the provider of agri information, news and media on NZ agri sector for farmers and corporates alike,” Ms Cross said.

NZX chief executive Mark Weldon described the criticism as “bonkers”.

“It is desperate balderdash to suggest there is any conflict of interest,” he said.

It sounded like typical responses from competitors, he said.

– NZPA

** Sounds like the NZX has some problems in reconciling its dual role as regulator and market participant. Perhaps the commerce commission should be taking a closer look.
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May 4, 2009 9:59am
RainbowGlobalWarming

Estate agents leaving industry
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10570216
New 9:30AM Monday May 04, 2009

Real estate agents are giving up on the industry, as the recession continues to make life tough.

Figures from the Real Estate Institute show 19 per cent of sales agents have dropped out in the past year (ending in April) – which means nearly 4,000 people have left.

President Mike Elford says the bottom line is there has been a dramatic downturn in sales. He says while no one is making the kind of money they once were, those left are still doing alright.

– NEWSTALK ZB

** Poor lambs.
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May 4, 2009 10:01am
PhilBest

RainbowGlobalWarming;

If there is one subject that really sets a thread on fire at interest.co.nz, it is whether house prices in NZ are going to come down further or go up again. All their record longest threads are on that subject.

I argue that the economic fundamentals show that NZ is in exactly the same monetary trap as all the other countries that have had a catastrophic bubble collapse.

http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2009/05/01/property-listings-fall-as-average-asking-price-remains-steady-realestateconz-says/

But the subject doesn’t seem to get the Kiwiblog crowd excited much in comparison – we seem to get our longest threads when global warming or Israel come up.
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May 4, 2009 10:17am
NOt1tocommentoften

DPF – any idea what happened to the Tailor of Panama Street’s blog? It offered fairly informative updates on the goings on at MFAT. One could even speculate an insider… I wonder if they were caught?!

[DPF: Not done by an MFAT insider but not sure why it has stopped. It was good I agree]
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May 4, 2009 10:20am
gazzmaniac

I guess if Vodafone is that bad the “market” will sort it out

Yes, if a cheaper and higher quality competitor comes into the market, I guess they would be sorted out.
Over here in Aussie we have 4 (at least) networks with their own infrastructure to choose from. At present only Telstra (incumbent) have regional 3G coverage (which is excellent but dear). Regional coverage for the other 3 is via the patchy Telstra GSM network.
I had heaps of trouble dealing with Telstra, they had really usesless people in their call centre (not all of them Indian either). Last year I went on contract with Hutchison3 (the ones who sponsor the cricket) and their service is truly excellent. I came over to NZ for a few months and instead of insisting that I pay for the full contract I signed up for they reduced it to a minimum for me with no fees. While I was in NZ I lost the SIM from my phone (I was using the NZ Vodafone network which is slow as a wet week and expensive as) and they replaced it free. They also unlocked my phone free of charge so I could use it in NZ – Telstra charge you $50. Basically they are there to help. Also when I signed up, the girl in the 3 shop told me that when I call up I’ll get to talk to Indians – “but they’re good Indians!” Which they are. And much cheaper than Telstra too.
Contrast that to Telstra. When I cancelled my 3G internet account they would not put the credit on my (postpaid) account into my bank account, despite the fact that even the tax office do that nowadays. They insisted on a cheque, which is inconvenient for me as I use an internet banking only account and it would have cost me $3 to bank a $20 cheque. I offered for them to credit my prepay Telstra phone – they wouldn’t do it. In the end I got it credited to a family member, as I’d rather them have it than Telstra. I find it highly unlikely that I will be using Telstra’s services again.

So yes, Tuija, the market will sort it out.
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May 4, 2009 10:20am
RainbowGlobalWarming

You didn’t know that the Israeli’s caused global warming and the house crash?

I agree that NZ is due for continued house price correction as affordabilty and lack of money are affecting demand while demographics will soon push supply up.
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May 4, 2009 10:23am
Right of way is Way of Right

Happy International Star Wars Day!

May the Fourth be with you!
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May 4, 2009 12:48pm
gd

Looks like the taxpayer is going to have to stump up big time for the governance stuff up at NIWA. Seems the scaking of Dr Jim Sallinger was a case of personality politics.

Even thou I have never agreed with Sallinger he does have an international reputation.

When are we going to get some decent governance into these government organisations. The problem is they are run like Mannies Music Parlour with liteweights who lack the ability to govern and manage

And so we will all be paying for the incompetence when the Court determines he was unjustly dismissed.
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May 4, 2009 1:14pm
racer

Welcome back all, another week!

So many calls for us lefties to be banned, anyone would think you have something to hide when confronted with dissenting opinion!

And what about that Gareth Morgan fella, bugger eh?
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May 4, 2009 1:18pm
Murray

No one calls for lefties to banned.

Just fuckwits.
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May 4, 2009 1:22pm
racer

hilarious Murray, I guess you got me there!
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May 4, 2009 1:27pm
Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left

Is this the worst reporting ever?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2382322/Bain-trial-Wife-worried-about-shooting

The statements implied from the title and first paragraph were never actually said by the witness. Instead the defense insinuated it.
Seems pretty desperate from the defense in the first place!
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May 4, 2009 4:23pm
side show bob

Racer, what do you think of that crap they served up last night on “Sunday”, wasn’t it a nice bit of lefty “lets scare the peasants” they are starting to question AGW, how fucking dare them. Some beautiful shots of nice smoking chimneys and the commentator breathlessly preaching fire, brimstone and damnation. Throw in Gareth Morgan, who proves vast sums of money can be piss up on bullshit. And don’t forget, throw in a drowning inland for good measure. God these AGW lovers are full of it.
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May 4, 2009 4:57pm
Banana Llama

I don’t know Side Show Bob i am scared to go outside these days.
One minute the planet is going into a new Ice age and we will have to live in Igloos, hunt wooly mammoth and shag the missus to stay alive.

Now it is about learning to live in the desert like the Bedouins, jallah infidel!
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May 4, 2009 5:15pm
Ryan Sproull

Yeah, if those AGW people are so right, then where are all the volcanoes they’re warning us about? And where are all the earthquakes? I don’t see any volcanoes erupting and I don’t feel any earthquakes.

AGW lovers are crazy.
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May 4, 2009 5:17pm
Patrick Starr

………..what a bitter and twisted economist will do to keep his ugly mug in the media.
Just how many times has he spent half a mil – a told everyone about it?
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May 4, 2009 5:55pm
racer

“side show bob

Racer, what do you think of that crap they served up last night on “Sunday””

What do I think? I think your a retard who just walked straight into a trap. The book isn’t out yet, so you can’t possibly have disproved the claims in it, in short, your full of shit.
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May 4, 2009 7:09pm
Tauhei Notts

Okay, I have some excrement on my liver and I am going to get rid of it here on Kiwiblog.
1. Greenfly. The person is typical of the scum that supported Clark, Cullen & Co. It is important that reptilian slimeballs such as Greenfly appear on here. Otherwise readers will forget what a despicable species of mankind they are. Please reinstate that contributor. Readers are free to overlook what he/she/it writes.
2. Aussies; An Aussie supermarket chain used the Resource Management Act for 20 years to stop a New Zealand company opening a supermarket in Wairau Road, North Shore. I will wager huge money that if a New Zealand owned company tried the same trick in Cabramatta, that after one year the Aussie court would tell them to get stuffed.
3. Aussies; I was a Randwick races in New South Wales on Anzac Day. The race book cover had two flags in colour. The Aussie flag (it is Aussie) and, I could not believe it, the Union Jack. Anzac is acronym and those sons of sheep stealers studiously ignore the second and third letters of that acronym.
4. Aussies; I have been trying to get an Aussie Tax File Number for two New Zealanders and a N.Z. IRD number for an Aussie. Those Aussie bureaucrats are absolutely impossible. Dunedin tax office processed the Aussie in a prompt and polite manner.
5. Aussies; their bureaucracy is unbelievable. I transferred AUD13,500 from MY Aussie account to MY N.Z. account( with the same outfit) and they rang from Sydney because I usually sign A.B. Sea, but on my fax message requesting the change I signed Archibald B. Sea. For Christ’s sake it was going from MY Aussie a/c to MY N.Z. a/c.
6. Aussies; Try setting up a cheque a/c in Aussie for a N.Z. owned company. It will drive you nuts.
7. Radio News. They mention the Act candidate as a millionaire as if that is derogotary, but omit to mention that the only candidate that approves of privatised mercenaries is the Labour candidate.
8. I feel better now.
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May 4, 2009 7:47pm
side show bob

My, my, we are touchy tonight, haven’t you had your tea yet, biting like a hungry shark. You started it “what about that Gareth Morgan fella, bugger eh?. I really don’t care if he is for or against AGW one only had to the watch the standard dribble (propaganda) put out by the drones at TVNZ to see which way his dick hangs. I very much doubt Mr Morgan is going to call you lefties out given the crap served up last night. Just imagine the breast beating and consternation should Gareth turn dog and turn on the retards ( note, a good use of your word) at socialist TV and the crooks promoting this con.
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May 4, 2009 7:54pm
racer

How do you know its a con, you haven’t yet seen what evidence he is presenting, he could have proved it, but I guess your probably of the persuasion that no matter what the evidence you’ll deny it forever.
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May 4, 2009 8:51pm

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