General Debate 27 May 2009

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toad

Seems that Agriculture Minister David Carter told us a bit of a fib about his knowlege of factory pig farming practices.
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May 27, 2009 8:22am
Glutaemus Maximus

With all the furore over patently fraudulent Parliamentary expenses in the UK, and the EU.

Has to be asked, could, would, is the same happening here?

Hope that the expenses here, are to be as transparent as the reforms promised in GB
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May 27, 2009 8:25am
Ryan Sproull

Seems that Agriculture Minister David Carter told us a bit of a fib about his knowlege of factory pig farming practices.

How do you figure?
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May 27, 2009 8:31am
wreck1080

The funniest thing on the radio today.

Annette King, worrying about the number of bureaucrats that are needed for the new boy racer laws. The irony, this coming from labour whose apparent goal was to employee everyone.

Secondly , doesn’t Phil Goff come across as a gormless figure? He is so predictably boring. Naturally he is condemning slash and burn budgets. Yawwwwnnnn!! Maybe he is referring to the dumping of labours million dollar “safe dog patting” campaign (this is absolutely true)?

Certainly labour were looking after the people. So much so, we were on the short path to bankruptcy.
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May 27, 2009 8:31am
Murray

Seems Sue Bradford lied her ass off when she said her bill was about protecting kids toad. The kids keep on dying and she keeps on smiling.

If we want someone to give lessons in honesty it wont be from within the ranks of the green party you can be sure.
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May 27, 2009 8:37am
Inventory2

Good to see that the Labour Party is still feeding its attack lines to Brian Rudman for him to publish

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2009/05/rudmans-latest-folly.html
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May 27, 2009 8:39am
mickysavage

Good to see you link to an interesting article Inventory2.

But which part do you disagree with? That English and Key promised tax cuts no matter what, that they said that Labour cannot be trusted to introduce tax cuts, that National are now resiling from the promise to cut taxes?

So do you think that we can trust the Nats?

It is a shame that the Fair Trading Act does not apply to politicians. If it did Key and co would be in considerable trouble.
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May 27, 2009 8:48am
fredinthegrass

Roll on the Budget – cant wait for Thursday!

Bill English will make the hard decisions
Labour will bluster and blow hot air.

What will DPF have to say!
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May 27, 2009 8:48am
sbk

mickysavage says

“It is a shame that the Fair Trading Act does not apply to politicians” ….yep, it would have saved us from nine years of Labour”s lies.Chewing Gum anyone….
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May 27, 2009 9:00am
Murray

Yes all hail mickey for his wisdom in pointing out to us that NATIONAL are dishonest because Cullen and Clark were able to hide just how badly they screwed the economy even better than anyone expected. Which by the way is actually illegal.

We clearly should trust socialists more.

Hint to the left, you might want to get your hand OFF the “honesty” lever for a bit. In case you missed it you were caught with your hands in the cookie jar so often that you got pink slipped recently. You’re sthrengths are lies and inuendo but playing to them as a tactic blew up in your faces.

Try something different for a bit, start with saying opps, we screwed up. If nothing else the novelty of it will be entertaining.
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May 27, 2009 9:02am
NOt1tocommentoften

Murray – what you’re saying is that Labour did it so we can do it too?
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May 27, 2009 9:10am
burt

DPF

So no mention of making it illegal for me to go around the block a few times looking for a park then?

Will the law of common sense apply if I’m just trying to find a park ?
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May 27, 2009 9:12am
burt

mickysavage

It is a shame that the Fair Trading Act does not apply to politicians. If it did Key and co would be in considerable trouble.

No. Labour would have rammed through enough retrospective amendments that National would be able to follow the same low standards.
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May 27, 2009 9:14am
NOt1tocommentoften

BUrt – these new boy racer laws are a joke. Window dressing at its finest. And a nightmare to police I bet. Just more populist legislation to feed the masses….
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May 27, 2009 9:15am
Inventory2

Did you read my blogpost on Rudman’s breathless “expose” micky? Lefties are welcome at Keeping Stock, and we’ve never had the need to ban anyone or moderate comments, unlike that bastion of the labour movement which you frequent. If you did, you’ll see that we commented on Rudman’s failure to mention an $11billion turnaround in the Crown accounts since the last budget. Then again, if Rudman was honest about that, it would kill the f=effect of his story. Which is precisely why we pointed that out 🙂
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May 27, 2009 9:16am
burt

mickysavage

Are you very very dim or just so partisan you cannot see what a twit you are? I don’t get how you can bag National for doing the same things you defended Labour over… I’m not saying it’s OK for National to do it because Labour did – far from it. But really you are making a complete fool of yourself with this “It’s OK when Labour do it BS”.
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May 27, 2009 9:20am
Murray

NO NOt. How many time do have to be told not to try to claim I’ve said something I haven’t. Seriously if I want you to talk for me I will let you know.

National were told what state the economy was in and they based their plans on that. Cullen outright lied while pissing away money as fast as he could. Opening the books was a holy shit moment without peer. If I owed you a hundred bucks and you made a commitment based on that then I didn’t give it to you does that make you dishonest?

English cannot give away money that isn’t there even if he was told it was. Thats called being a moron. Now if you think that you get some political milage by claiming that he failed to deliver on a promise, when the reality is that socialists lied cheated and FUCKED our economy for the bloody fun of it then you’re about as stupid as a human being can be without being life support.

By far and away the bulk of New Zealanders are fully aware of what has happened and the commies can sit in their little echo chambers and chuckle darkly about damn clever they are but the rest of are accepting the reality.

Cullen lied, English is cleaning up the skid marks left behind. Deal with it.

And by the way, there is no “we”. If spent as much time kicking Key as I did Clark. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
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May 27, 2009 9:20am
Glutaemus Maximus

So the fiscal fool Cullen, simply lied. Was proud to have used a scorched earth policy. Thrilled to have emptied the larder.

Gloating in having wasted money on a shitty little train set, and given the Aussies heaps of treats as well. Then MS comes on here

complaining about the lack of tax cuts? Annette King worries about the amount of Staff.

Just wicked really. The left have very short memories and no shame. The levers of power must seem very far away for them to be so cranky.

Missing Mummy are we?

Goff the Wooden!
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May 27, 2009 9:25am
NoCash

I wonder if the F&P and Haier deal was made possible by the FTA or not.
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May 27, 2009 11:18am
Chthoniid

NoCash- it was possible beforehand. Most countries including NZ allow for 20-25% of a company to be purchased by a foreign interest without needing approval. The idea is that this mark represents a controlling interest (not a majority interest). So, a lot of companies end up selling equity at say 20% or 25% or 49% to escape the various thresholds triggering Government intervention.

Such direct investments do at least, provide an offset on the current account deficit.
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May 27, 2009 12:07pm
big bruv

I see that California has decided to ban gay “marriages”, they will let the 18,000 “couples” have have been married in the last two years retain their married status however no more same sex marriages will be allowed.

Bloody good job!
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May 27, 2009 12:30pm
backster

The weakness of the boy racer laws are clearly that it leaves the crushing of the vehicle to the discretion of the Judge. That does indeed make it a farce and the Minister should be well aware of that, for the road scum most certainly will be. The law as proposed will be another strung out bonanza for the Legal Aid fraternity with delays and adjournments and appeals. It would have been a simp-le matter to make the crushing a compulsory requirement of a 3rd conviction and spare the judge the agony of deciding whether another final warning and 50 hours Community Service wouldn’t be a better option.
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May 27, 2009 12:45pm
dime

bruv – shouldnt gay people be allowed to go through the same hell straight people can? heh
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May 27, 2009 2:11pm
billyborker

Coming soon to New Zealand, courtesy of Jonkey and the National Socialists – the we don’t like waht you say so shut the fuck up law.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/may/27/daily-telegraph-libel-internet
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May 27, 2009 2:17pm
getstaffed

Check out the rhetoric in the article Arnie terminating payments to needy.

Far from ‘saving’ money, this is the reality of what happens when income does not meet outgoings. Cotton-wool clad chardonnay socialists – like the ones who write this crap – believe that endless cash flows from, well, um, somewhere… and any attempt to limit it’s wonderful visitation on the needy is simply rich-pick greed. I don’t have the figures on hand, but California’s financial woes are almost certainly due to a massive drop is state tax take which hasn’t been matched by a drop in expenses.

borker: keep posting. every time your finger hits the ‘submit comment’ button another labour voter shuffles to the right.
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May 27, 2009 10:46pm
paradigm

Congratulations to twevor the duck, first to feel the wrath of lockwood smith’s pimp hand and get kicked out of the debating chamber.

(how dumb is that – smith must be the most opposition friendly speaker we’ve had and mallard still manages to piss him off)
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