General Debate 17 May 2009

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Redbaiter

Get ya rocks off on a Sunday morning with Susan Tedeschi and her hubby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs50uz3a_-M

Little by little-

The way our freedoms are slipping away.
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May 17, 2009 10:37am
Owen McShane

Nice people on Hard News.
Some of these bloggers disagree with my endorsement of the Waterview connection.
Their response is interesting:

Everyone should just move to Kaiwaka.
Move and widen SH1 in the middle of it. then one could build a bridge and just get over it.:)

Joshua Arbury
From: Auckland
Since: May 2009
Posts: 74

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Posted at 4:54PM on 6 May 09. Permalink.
Find Mr McShane’s house and build SH1 right through it I say.

DeepRed
From: The southernmost capital city in the world
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 489

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Posted at 5:15PM on 6 May 09. Permalink.
Find Mr McShane’s house and build SH1 right through it I say.
Better still, drive the bulldozer through, while he’s asleep. And display the resultant trophy on the wall in Te Papa.

Of course driving a bulldozer through my house while I am asleep would kill my wife and my old dog.
Whatever happened to civilized discourse? Jarbury keeps good company.
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May 17, 2009 10:40am
dime

“Fire at will” Bill – is this in yet?

Toad promised me story after story of worker abuse.. havent seen any yet?
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May 17, 2009 10:52am
Rebel Heart

“They must find it difficult; those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority” – G Massey – discuss in relation to Christianity.
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May 17, 2009 11:12am
lofty

What ever happened to the thieving little labour scrotes who stole the piss????
Just wondering.
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May 17, 2009 11:16am
lofty

How come Steve Pierson is working in the parliamentary library??
He is a well known blogger from the strandard, who has accused the speaker of being a liar, amongst many, many other accusations against the National party & it’s representatives.
How does he get a job in a position that through it’s very nature demands non partisan staff, not political hacks.
Just wondering?
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May 17, 2009 11:17am
paradigm

Someone please explain the following:
Labour are upset that govt did not listen to royal commission on Maori seats and second tier of Auckland Council, but are upset that govt did listen to royal commission on “at large seats”?
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May 17, 2009 11:33am
Redbaiter

537,000 speeding tickets in a year???

$36 million collected in fines????

Obviously the limits are too low.

Vote yourselves into tyranny you wankers.

How can you tolerate this???

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/2405820/Cameras-record-incorrect-speeds
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May 17, 2009 11:37am
better

Speaking of the company Jarbury keeps, what a delicious sense of irony on display from Owen McShane.
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May 17, 2009 11:47am
Inventory2

lofty – obviously Clinton “Steve Pierson” Smith has followed Helen Clark’s example and “moved on”, naively think that all the slurs, smears and innuendo he has spouted in the past will not follow him. It will be interesting to see if the PSA goes in to bat for him when the axe falls, as seems inevitable.
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May 17, 2009 11:59am
backster

I was both surprised and delighted by the Minister of Justice thoughts and plans on Q&A this morning. His plans for a reform of the Justice system and to bring some integrity to the Legal Aid Scams are excellent initial steps. I just hope he can overcome the opposition from the vested interests who will endeavour to maintain the present lucrative chaos.
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May 17, 2009 12:15pm
lofty

Yes I2 it will be bloody interesting, who employs these hacks please, and why can, whoever it is, get away with it? Who are they answerable to?
I can assure you that he cannot just move on, anymore than the piss thieves can think that it is ancient history.
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May 17, 2009 12:56pm
billyborker

Parents of World Hide and Seek Champion of 2007, Madeleine McCann, are set to sue a top police officer involved in the search for her.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/madeline-mccanns-parents-to-sue-expoliceman-20090517-b70g.html

Maybe he knows who stole Don Brash’s emails and where Obama’s birth cert can be found.
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May 17, 2009 1:52pm
colinm

Hey Red,
That’s how they’re going to get your DNA. Dangerous speed (driving) is an imprisonable offence (I think), they only need suspect you of it and,… sit here whilst I get a sample of your DNA.
Along with the “you are a criminal as soon as you get behind the wheel” legislation over the years and you’re pretty well screwed if the state wants to get something from you.
Do you think national will change any of this?
I certainly don’t ( I wonder why I voted for them now). We’ll have to wait for the likes of ACT to get things like the corruption commision out of the wish list and onto the to do list.
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May 17, 2009 2:20pm
radar

“Vote yourselves into tyranny you wankers.”

Has Redbaiter ever posted a comment that didn’t include an insult or a swear word? Seriously, the school system in New Zealand failed this man.
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May 17, 2009 3:38pm
xyzzy

radar: Communists.
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May 17, 2009 3:53pm
jarbury

Was that my “Melissa Lee” moment Owen?

I find it interesting that DPF hasn’t blogged at all on the Auckland SuperCity issue…. especially as it consumed parliament for the past few days.
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May 17, 2009 6:15pm
Tui

Lofty: How come Steve Pierson is working in the parliamentary library??

We have a Human Rights Act in NZ and political opinion is one of the prohibited grounds of discrimination. I suppose as long as this person does his job satisfactorily, he has the same right as any one of us to work as a public servaant.

PS I’m no leftie but I believe everyone should have a fair go.
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May 17, 2009 6:54pm
Steve

Tui,
Everyone here has a fair go as long as comments do not become insults.
Left, Right, Center does not matter.
Some get uptight when faced with truth and get demerits. Look at the list of those who have demerits and get permanent bans.
Those who get demerits just come back and continue to create havoc. Don’t ask who because we all know who they are.
DPF puts up the subject and they bite.

Oh Rankin is on the case of some very dodgy public servants.
WINZ, or ACC and more.
Look out, arses are on the line.
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May 17, 2009 8:50pm
Owen McShane

Jarbury
I was actually more offended by Mr Logan O’Callahan who wrote:
“Mr McShane has had a serious bug in his bonnet about the RMA from when he was trying to develop his Kaiwaka lifestyle block.”
Actually I have been commenting on the RMA (mainly in its defence as originally written) since Don Brash as Governor of the Reserve Bank asked me to write report on whether the RMA was impacting on house price inflation in 1995.

“I once owned a block nearby. Nice area, great views, pleasant climate.
I’d like to say that proximity to Owen was one of the reasons we sold up. But that was only a beneficial side effect.”
Now this is outrageous. Because I have made several applications for me and others in Rangiora Road I have had to collect letters of support from “anyone who may claim to be adversely affected.” I know all my neighbours too. Mr O’Callahan is not on the list. He is obviously being economical with the truth.
Of course maybe he was farming the six marijuana cages I uncovered while clearing off the gorse and pampas grass.

I wonder what else might have offended?
Could it have been that the houses I designed have excellent insulation and solar heating?
Could it have been the 80 thousand trees and plants we planted?
Could it have been the five acres of native bush we protected from development?
Could it have been the high use of recycled materials in the houses?
Could it have been that he objected to my first sale being to a single woman for a total cost to her of $165,000. Maybe he does not like affordable housing?
Or was it the use of evapo transpiration fields to fertilize and irrigate areas in the public park area of the property?
I wonder in fact if he has ever been within miles of the place. He could have joined the gardening clubs and other groups who came from far and wide to enjoy this alternative to the normal and useless lifestyle block.

Maybe Jarbury you could post this for me. I have tried to register but have not been accepted.

And notice the hypocrisy: the local families are only a fly spec in time relative to this motorway, but the present generation should have the unconstrained right to exploit the worlds resources without regard to future generations.
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May 18, 2009 9:55am

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