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April 9, 2009 4:46pm by David Farrar

God’s Facebook

Got sent this by email. Very good. Especially like the fake dinosaur fossils album.

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Christopher

Facebook updates go from newest to oldest, so it’s all the wrong way around 🙁
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April 9, 2009 4:56pm
dime

HAHAHAHA funny
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April 9, 2009 5:04pm
getstaffed

Genesis is all about the story of creation… about Gods creativity. And just look at the creativity at work on this mocked up facebook. Totally excellent!
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April 9, 2009 5:19pm
fishe

getstaffed: wow you really twisted the positive out of that one, good effort!
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April 9, 2009 5:33pm
fishe

I like the “Stay away from apples. Seriously” in the note. Reminds me of the Ricky Gervais piss take of genesis…
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April 9, 2009 5:36pm
getstaffed

fishe – what’s not to be positive about? I guess some Christians might be offended at its sacrilegious angle. Their choice I guess. FWIW I think it’s pretty clever.
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April 9, 2009 5:58pm
dave

Yeah, Its good isnt it.

I got Jesus on Facebook by email recently. Here it is.
http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/facebookpassion.pdf
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April 9, 2009 6:53pm
ophiuchus

Awesome lol
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April 9, 2009 7:04pm
KiwiGreg

God doesn’t like humour. You all going to hell
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April 9, 2009 8:39pm
Inventory2

Of course God’s got a sense of humour – how elese do you explain the hippopotamus and the aardvark?
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April 9, 2009 8:59pm
Rebel Heart

[DPF: Far far too long. Demerits next time]

Right, let the religious debates begin. I’ll start it off by posting this:

Does God answer prayers? According to believers, the answer is certainly yes.

For example, at any Christian bookstore you can find hundreds of books about the power of prayer. On the Internet you can find thousands of testimonials to the many ways that God works in our lives today. Even large city newspapers and national magazines run stories about answered prayers. God seems to be interacting with our world and answering millions of prayers on planet Earth every day.

God’s power often can be quite dramatic. Take, for example, this story from Marilyn Hickey Ministries:

Prayer is a communication system we have available to fellowship with our heavenly Father and which activates His promises in our lives. No one can beat this system. It’s quick. It’s efficient. And it’s available to you right now! Prayer reaches our heavenly Father instantly. Years ago my mother’s doctors found a tumor in her brain. When I heard the news, I was out of town so I could not lay my hands on her. That night as fear swept over me, the Lord quickened Psalms 107:20 to my spirit: “He sent his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.” I sent God’s Word long distance to my mother’s brain. When she was X-rayed again by her doctors, there was no evidence that any tumor had ever existed! Hallelujah! Our prayers are swifter than any medical technique. Only born again believers who have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord can have a relationship with the Father and prayer is the communication method you must use to develop that relationship. [ref]

Stories like these can be easily found all over the Web.

How Prayer Works

For believers, it is obvious why so many prayers are answered. In the Bible, Jesus promises many times that he will answer our prayers. For example, in Matthew 7 Jesus says:

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Ask and you will receive. What could be simpler than that?

In Matthew 17:20 Jesus reiterates that same message:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

Since a mustard seed is a tiny inanimate object about the size of a grain of salt, it is easy to imagine that the faith of a mustard seed is fairly small. So, paraphrasing, what Jesus is saying is that if you have the tiniest bit of faith, you can move mountains.

Jesus says something similar in Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.

The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:

Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:

“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it.

In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says it again:

Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Jesus is actually in our midst and God answers our prayers.

The miracle of Jeanna Giese

There are so many examples of the power of prayer, but one in particular deserves special consideration because it is so well documented. In December of 2004 a girl named Jeanna Giese survived a bite from a rabid bat through prayer. Hundreds of newspapers (including the Raleigh News and Observer in my home town) ran stories about the miracle of her recovery with headlines such as “Rabies girl in miracle recovery.” In Raleigh, the headline was “Web weaves global prayer circle – Petitions circle the world as girl beats rare case of rabies.” [Source: by Sharon Roznik, Raleigh News and Observer, December 17, 2004]

The summary of the story goes like this. Jeanna was in a church service in Wisconsin when a brown bat fell into the aisle. She picked the bat up and carried it outside. No one gave it a second thought.

A month later it was obvious that something was wrong. Soon Jeanna had a full case of rabies. No human has ever survived this disease without being vaccinated. Up until 2004, full-blown rabies had been 100% fatal.

According to the article, a global prayer circle helped Jeanna survive. Once she got sick, Jeanna’s father called friends and asked them to pray for Jeanna. People around the world heard about her story through the press and by word of mouth. They prayed. They sent emails. They passed the word along. Millions of people heard about Jeanna’s plight and they said prayers for her.

And the prayer circle worked. Through the power of God, Jeanna recovered. Jeanna was the first human to survive rabies without the vaccine.

Dr. Charles Rupprecht of the CDC in Atlanta called Jeanna’s case a miracle. The family and everyone in Jeanna’s huge, global prayer circle know that God heard their prayers and answered them.

This is amazing stuff. The dictionary defines a miracle as “An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God.” [ref] So we must ask a fundamental question: Did an all-loving, all-powerful God hear the prayers from Jeanna’s worldwide prayer circle and then reach down from heaven to help Jeanna? Did God actually interact with Jeanna’s body, making the impossible happen and curing her case of rabies through a divine miracle?

Or did something else happen?

We can actually answer this question with a simple experiment….

A simple experiment

For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout veteran of the Iraqi war, or a person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.

Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier’s legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey’s mother.

If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.

What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once — he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.

And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.

No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written — there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.

Isn’t that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:

* God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.

* God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.

* God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.

* God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.

* God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna’s every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.

Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.

What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.

Understanding amputees

You can see that the amputee experiment reframes our conversation. No longer are we talking about “religion” or “faith”. What we are talking about here is more fundamental.

At the beginning of the chapter we highlighted a number of promises that Jesus makes about prayer in the Bible. Summarizing, here is what Jesus promised:

* If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. [Matthew 21:21]

* If you ask anything in my name, I will do it. [John 14:14]

* Ask, and it will be given you. [Matthew 7]

* Nothing will be impossible to you. [Matthew 17:20]

* Believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. [Mark 11:24]

The question, therefore, is simple: Are Jesus’ statements in the Bible true or false?

For example, in John 3:16 Jesus says, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” People take that at face value: if you believe in Jesus, you will have eternal life. So when Jesus says, “Believe that you have received it, and it will be yours,” isn’t it the same thing? Can’t we take that statement at face value as well?

By looking at amputees, we can see that something is wrong. Jesus is not telling the truth. God never answers prayers to spontaneously restore lost limbs, despite Jesus’ statements in the Bible. Accepting this piece of factual information, rather than denying it, is the first step in understanding something extremely important about how prayer really works.

Even if you take a liberal rather than literal stance on the Bible, this feels strange, doesn’t it? You may not literally believe that “nothing will be impossible for you” nor that “faith can move mountains,” but I think we can agree that there is something very odd about the way that God treats amputees. No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing happens when we pray for amputated limbs. God never regenerates lost limbs through prayer, even though Christians believe that God is answering millions of other prayers on earth every day.

Does God answer prayers? If so, then how do we explain this disconnection between God and amputees? What should we do with the piece of empirical data that amputees represent? We need to somehow explain why God would answer millions of prayers on earth, yet completely ignore prayers for amputated limbs. Let’s examine the possible explanations one by one.

Key Point
No matter how many people pray, no matter how often they pray, no matter how sincere they are, no matter how much they believe, no matter how deserving the amputee, what we know is that prayers do not inspire God to regenerate amputated legs. This happens despite what Jesus promises us in Matthew 21:21, John 14:14, Mark 11:24, etc.

Rationalization #1

Here is an explanation that you might have heard or used before:

The reason God cures thousands of cancers, infections, etc. each day but never intervenes with amputees is because it is not God’s will to do that. It is not part of God’s plan.

This explanation seems a little odd. Amputees really do seem to be getting the short end of God’s plan if this is the case. If God answers prayers as promised in the Bible, and if God is performing all of the medical miracles that we read about in inspirational literature, then God should also be restoring amputated limbs. Why would God help cancer victims (e.g. Marilyn Hickey’s mother) and people bitten by rabid bats (e.g. Jeanna Giese), but discriminate against amputees like this? (See Understanding God’s Plan for an in-depth look at how “God’s Plan” works).

Keep in mind what Jesus promised:

* If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. [Matthew 21:21]

* If you ask anything in my name, I will do it. [John 14:14]

* Ask, and it will be given you. [Matthew 7]

* Nothing will be impossible to you. [Matthew 17:20]

* Believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. [Mark 11:24]

There is no indication from Jesus that amputees will be ignored when they pray for medical help. The fact is, all five of these statements are completely false in the case of amputees.

The five quotes in the previous paragraph are all simple, straightforward statements. Doesn’t “nothing will be impossible for you” mean “nothing will be impossible for you”? Jesus is God, and as an all-knowing being God knows how humans interpret sentences. If Jesus did not mean “nothing will be impossible for you,” it seems like Jesus would have said something else. He also would not repeat that sentiment so many times. And Jesus is supposedly answering millions of prayers each day, so prayer-answering seems to be his intent (See this short video for a more in-depth discussion).

Rationalization #2

In a similar vein, many believers will say, “God always answers prayers, but sometimes his answer is ‘no.’ If your prayer does not fit with God’s will, then God will say ‘no’ to you.” This feels odd because God’s answer to every amputee is always “no” when it comes to regenerating lost limbs. Jesus says, “If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.” He does not say, “If you ask anything in my name, I will do it, unless you are praying about an amputated limb, in which case I will always reject your prayer.” Jesus also says, “Nothing will be impossible to you,” and regenerating a limb should therefore be possible. The fact that God refuses to answer every prayer to regenerate a lost limb seems strange, doesn’t it?

This short video offers a perspective on the “no” response to prayers.

To understand how strange it seems, compare God’s treatment of amputees to the concept of God described in this article.

Rationalization #3

Here is another explanation that you might have heard: “God needs to remain hidden — restoring an amputated limb would be too obvious.” We will discuss this idea in more detail in later chapters, but let’s touch on it here. Does God need to remain hidden?

That does not seem to be the case. In general, God seems to have no problem doing things that are obvious. Think about the Bible. Writing the Bible and having billions of copies published all over the world is obvious. So is parting the Red Sea. So is carving the Ten Commandments on stone tables. So is sending your son to earth and having him perform dozens of recorded miracles. And so on. It makes no sense for a God in hiding to incarnate himself, or to do these other obvious things. Why send your son to earth, and then write a book that talks all about his exploits, if you are trying to hide?

In the same way, any medical miracle that God performs today is obvious. The removal of a cancerous tumor is obvious because it is measurable. One month the tumor is visible to everyone on the X-ray, and the next month it is not. If God eliminated the tumor, then it is openly obvious to everyone who sees the X-ray. There is nothing “hidden” about removing a tumor. So, why not regenerate a leg in an equally open way? If God intervenes with cancer patients to remove cancerous tumors in response to prayers, then why wouldn’t God also intervene with amputees to regenerate lost limbs?

Key Point
If God intervenes with cancer patients to remove cancerous tumors, then God should also intervene with amputees to regenerate lost limbs.
Another example is seen in Jeanne’s rabies case discussed earlier in the chapter. Tens of millions of people are aware of the Jeanna’s rabies miracle. Personally, I read about it in a big article in my morning newspaper. That is pretty obvious. What is hidden about her recovery?

Why, then, does God ignore the prayers of amputees? (see Chapter 19 for a complete discussion of the “hidden God” theory)

Rationalization #4

Some people might say, “Everyone’s life serves God in different ways. Perhaps God uses amputees to teach us something. God must have a higher purpose for amputees.” That may be the case — God may be trying to send a message. But, again, it seems odd that he would single out this one group of people to handle the delivery. To quote Marilyn Hickey once again:

No matter what has happened in your past, no matter what is happening in your present, seek out your heavenly Father in prayer as often as you can. Take my word for it — He loves you and wants to answer your prayers. [ref]

You see this logic all the time in inspirational literature and hear it every Sunday at thousands of churches: “God loves you! God hears your prayers and will answer them for you!” See this article for an example. Yet, for some reason, miracles never happen when it comes to regenerating lost limbs. It does not seem to make sense that amputees would be cut off from the blessings that Jesus promises in the Bible. And it also does not mesh with all of the prayers that Jesus seems to be answering for other people.

Rationalization #5

Some people ascribe the problems that amputees face to free will. They will say, “Well, if you go into a war zone and get your legs blown off, that is your own free will. God gives us free will. You made a free choice to be a soldier. It is not God’s fault, and therefore he has no obligation to repair the damage.” This logic is fascinating. What about all the people who are born with missing limbs, or the people who lose limbs to diseases through no fault or choice of their own? How are these people any different from cancer victims, who, supposedly, are constantly being healed by God?

We know that God ignores all amputees, regardless of the cause of the missing limb. Why doesn’t God heal thalidomide babies, who are by definition completely innocent? Or the innocent children who lose their limbs in mine fields? Why would God heal millions of other diseases, but completely ignore any disease that results in a lost or missing limb?

Rationalization #6

Some believers say, “God does help amputees – he inspires scientists and engineers to create artificial limbs for them!” This logic is interesting, especially if we look at other examples. Take the case of smallpox. Millions upon millions of people died of smallpox until the vaccine was invented in the twentieth century. If God is the one who inspired the scientists, why did God wait until the twentieth century to do it? Why would God want to be the source of the massive suffering that smallpox caused prior to the twentieth century? And why do we pay the scientists, given that their work is simply God’s inspiration? (we will discuss the question of divine inspiration in more detail in Chapter 7)

Rationalization #7

Someone might say, “Thou shalt not test the Lord. It says so in the Bible.” This is hard to swallow because every prayer is a test. Either God answers the prayer or he does not. There is no difference between praying for an amputee and praying for Jeanna Giese and her rabies.

Note also that many believers track their prayers with prayer journals. See, for example, prayer-journal.com. Why not pray to God to heal an amputee, and then track the results of the prayer in a prayer journal?

Rationalization #8

Some people might say something like, “Jesus never says when he will answer your prayers. Maybe your prayer will be answered in the afterlife.” But that seems uncomfortable. Jesus is answering millions of prayers for everyone else in the here and now. Clearly that is what he means with all his verses in the Bible. Why single out amputees for treatment in the afterlife when Marilyn and Jeanna get their prayers answered almost instantaneously?

Rationalization #9

Someone might say, “God will answer your prayers, but not immediately. You must be patient.” They will point to a situation like that found in Mark 6:47-51:

And when evening came, the boat was out on the sea, and he was alone on the land. And he saw that they were making headway painfully, for the wind was against them. And about the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. He meant to pass by them, but when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost, and cried out; for they all saw him, and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said, “Take heart, it is I; have no fear.” And he got into the boat with them and the wind ceased.

A person might say, “you see, he came in the fourth watch (generally understood to be 3AM to 6AM), not in the first or second or third. You must be patient and wait for the Lord to answer your prayers.” This is just as uncomfortable as the previous explanation. God does not answer the prayers of any amputee to restore lost limbs.

Rationalization #10

A believer might say, “You are taking the Bible literally.” But how else are we supposed to take it? Jesus clearly says, “If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.” When Jesus says that, what does he mean? Presumably, Jesus means that if you ask for anything, he will do it. What else could he possibly mean?

Believers often respond with, “Look, Jesus was using poetic embellishment when he said, ‘nothing will be impossible for you,’ and ‘faith can move mountains.'” Which leads to the following question: What prayers does God answer? It is the response to that question that is fascinating. Because the response inevitably is, “God is omnipotent, so God can do anything.”

Which leads us right back to the question, “Why won’t God heal amputees?”

Rationalization #11

Finally, there is this oft-used chestnut: “There is no way to understand the mysteries of our Lord. People have believed in Jesus for 2,000 years, and there must be a very good reason for it.” This feels like a sad point in the conversation. On one side of the conversation is a person who is defending the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe. This person’s position should be unassailable. Yet, if God exists, and answers prayers as described in the Bible, there is no explanation for what we see in the world around us. The Bible is silent in this case. God is silent. There is not a good, comfortable explanation for the situation faced by amputees except to say, “We cannot understand the mysteries of the Lord. We have no explanation for why God refuses to answer prayers to regenerate lost limbs.”

Explaining the case of amputees

Just for a moment, I would ask you to consider the possibility of another explanation. If you believe in God, then this explanation will initially appear to be complete nonsense. However, it is interesting in light of the conversation we will be having in this book.

One explanation for the evidence that we see before us is this:

God exists, and God answers prayers, but for some reason God chooses to ignore the prayers of amputees. We don’t have a good explanation for why God acts this way, and it does seem to contradict what Jesus teaches about prayer in the Bible, but clearly God has his divine reasons.

Now let’s look at the situation with amputees from another point of view. This explanation is more straightforward:

God is imaginary.

Let’s look at what happens when we consider this explanation and see how it stacks up.

Assume that God is imaginary. The beauty of this explanation is that it fits the facts perfectly. In the case of amputees, it is a valid way to explain the reality that we see in our world. The logic goes like this:

If God is imaginary, then he does not answer any prayers. Therefore, the prayers of amputees would go unanswered too.

The thing that is so appealing about this explanation is that there is no hand waving. There are no contradictions. It is completely fair. There is no paradox. This explanation makes complete sense in light of the evidence we see in our world.

Key Point
If God is imaginary, then he does not answer any prayers. Therefore, the prayers of amputees would go unanswered too. The thing that is so appealing about this explanation is that there is no hand waving. There are no contradictions. It is completely fair. There is no paradox. This explanation makes sense in light of the evidence we see in our world.
Interestingly, this explanation also happens to cover the case of Neva Rogers in Chapter 1. And Steve Homel’s subdivision in Chapter 2. And Ranika in Chapter 4. If you assume that God is imaginary, then the paradox of God evaporates in all of these cases. Why did Ranika die? Because there was no all-powerful, prayer-answering God to save her. Why did Neva die? Because there was no all-powerful, prayer-answering God to save her. Why did Steve’s house remain standing while 39 others burned to the ground? Because there was no all-powerful, prayer-answering God to save any of the houses (and Steve’s house was a fluke). Why did 200,000 people die in the tsunami? Because there was no all-powerful, prayer-answering God to save them. And so on. It explains amputees too. The paradox of God vanishes completely.

In response to this proposal, a thoughtful person might say, “Just because God never answers the prayers of amputees, it does not mean that he does not answer other prayers. I agree with you that it is unfair to amputees, and I agree with you that it contradicts what Jesus teaches in the Bible, but God has his reasons. For some reason, it is not part of God’s plan to help amputees by regenerating their lost limbs. There is no way to understand the mysteries of our Lord, but he does have his reasons and they will become clear to us when we die and go to heaven.” That is one possible explanation, but words like “unfair” and “contradicts” feel, somehow, uncomfortable. They do not fit with our mental image of an all-loving and perfect God, nor with the words of Jesus in the Bible. Why would God have such a problem with amputees that he completely ignores their prayers to regenerate lost limbs, while at the same time he is answering all of these other prayers millions of times a day? When it comes to amputees, why would Jesus renege on his promises to answer prayers in the Bible?

You can see that what we have here is a paradox:

* On the one hand we have an all-knowing, all-loving God who has made very clear and specific statements in his Bible about the power of prayer. We have billions of people who believe that their prayers are being answered. We have thousands of examples of the power of prayer published in inspirational literature. We have prominent doctors at the CDC declaring that God is reaching down onto earth and performing medical miracles. We have major newspapers and magazines reporting on the power of prayer and prayer circles.

* On the other hand, we have a piece of explicit evidence that does not make any sense if God exists. No matter how many people pray, no matter how sincere they are and no matter how much they believe, God does not answer the prayers of amputees to regenerate their limbs.

There are two possible explanations for this paradox:

* Many people believe that God answers millions of prayers every day, using his love and power to bless people all over the globe. They express their belief in articles like this, published in magazines read by millions of people. But they also believe that God ignores the prayers of amputees for a divine reason that is unknowable to human beings. In that case, the situation with amputees is a mystery.

* Many other people believe the opposite. They believe that God is imaginary, and therefore he cannot answer prayers. In that case, the situation with amputees makes complete sense.

Who is right?

The thing about amputees is that the evidence is rock solid. This solidity is what makes this example so compelling.

A cascade of problems

It’s not like I am revealing some hidden truth here. The funny thing about amputees is that this evidence is obvious to everyone. We have all seen that God ignores the prayers of amputees. This evidence has been plainly visible for centuries.

Amputees are not the only ones either. For example:

* If someone severs their spinal cord in an accident, that person is paralyzed for life. No amount of prayer is going to help.

* If someone is born with a congenital defect like a cleft palate, God will not repair it through prayer. Surgery is the only option.

* A genetic disease like Down Syndrome is the same way — no amount of prayer is going to fix the problem.

Or what about this. What if we get down on our knees and pray to God in this way:

Dear God, almighty, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe, we pray to you to cure every case of cancer on this planet tonight. We pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus’ name we pray, Amen.

We pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways. Will anything happen? Of course not. If prayers like this worked, Christians would have prayed every disease on the planet into extinction centuries ago. But if God were to exist, why would he ignore such a worthy prayer? [We will discuss this particular question in much more detail in chapter 6.]

It is also easy to find corroborating evidence outside the medical arena. At the global level, we see the evidence every day in many different ways. For example, we all see the millions of children who die every year from the tragic effects of poverty. Unicef puts it this way:

Every year, more than 10 million children die totally preventable deaths. Some are directly caused by illness – pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles – and others are affected by indirect causes such as conflict and HIV/AIDS. Malnutrition, lack of safe water and inadequate sanitation are contributing factors to more than half of these deaths. [ref]

Jesus is supposed to love all the little children of the world: “Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight.” So we can ask this straightforward question: If children are precious to Jesus, then why is he killing 10 million of them every year with abject poverty? That’s 27,000 dead kids every day — more than 1,000 dead children each hour. If Jesus answers prayers as he promises in the Bible, then why haven’t the prayers of billions of people to end world hunger caused Jesus to solve the problem of global poverty? (We will discuss this situation in more detail in chapter 22.)

Key Point
27,000 children die every day for preventable reasons like malnutrition and unsafe drinking water. If Jesus answers prayers as he promises in the Bible, then why haven’t the prayers of billions of people to end world hunger caused Jesus to solve the problem of global poverty?
We all know that holes like these exist. It is easy to find them. The holes suggest that something very odd is going on.

Ambiguity and coincidence

The question, “Why won’t God heal amputees?” probes into an extremely interesting aspect of prayer and exposes it for observation. This aspect of prayer has to do with ambiguity and coincidence.

Imagine that you pray for something — It does not really matter what it is. Let’s imagine that you have cancer, you pray to God to cure the cancer, and the cancer actually does go away. The interesting thing to recognize is that there is ambiguity in your cure. God might have miraculously cured the disease, as many people believe. But God might also be imaginary, and the chemotherapy drugs and surgery are the things that cured your cancer. Or your body might have cured the cancer itself. The human body does have a powerful immune system, and this immune system has the ability to eliminate cancer in many cases. When your tumor dissappeared, it might be a coincidence that you happened to pray. Drugs, an immune response or a combination of the two might have been the thing the cured you.

How can we determine whether it is God or coincidence that worked the cure? One way is to eliminate the ambiguity. In a non-ambiguous situation, there is no potential for coincidence. Because there is no ambiguity, we can actually know whether God is answering the prayer or not.

That is what we are doing when we look at amputees.

When we pray to God to restore an amputated limb, there is only one way for the limb to regenerate. God must exist and God must answer prayers. What we find is that whenever we create a non-ambiguous situation like this and look at the results of prayer, prayer never works. God never answers prayers if there is no possibility of coincidence. We will approach this issue from several different angles in this book, but Chapters 6 and 7 are particularly important.

The fact that prayers are never answered when the possibility of coincidence is eliminated meshes with another fact. If we analyse God’s responses to prayers using statistical tools, what we find is that there is never any statistical evidence for prayer. In other words, when we statisically compare prayer to coincidence for explaining any situation, they are identical. For example, this article points out:

One of the most scientifically rigorous studies yet, published earlier this month, found that the prayers of a distant congregation did not reduce the major complications or death rate in patients hospitalized for heart treatments. [ref]

It also says:

A review of 17 past studies of ”distant healing,” published in 2003 by a British researcher, found no significant effect for prayer or other healing methods.

No scientific study has ever found any evidence that prayer works.

There are two possible conclusions to draw from these statistical studies and the situation with amputees:

1. God somehow detects every non-ambiguous situation (like amputees) and every situation where a statistical study will be done and he “refuses” to answer prayers in those situations.

2. God is imaginary and does not answer prayers at all. In every case where it appears that God “answers” a prayer, it truly is nothing more than a coincidence.

One problem with the first explanation is that it contradicts what Jesus teaches about prayer in the Bible. Jesus says that he answers payers. He never says, “don’t pray to me unless the situation you are praying about is ambiguous.” Another problem with the first situation is that it is possible to analyse any prayer with statistics, meaning that God cannot answer any prayer.

In other words, we reach the same conclusion: God is imaginary.

Incredibly Interesting

Whether you are religious or not, you have to admit that what we see here is incredibly interesting. Despite the fact that billions of people around the world believe in God, in this chapter we have seen a credible piece of evidence that indicates that God is imaginary.

We also have many other pieces of evidence that indicate the same thing. Let’s step back and look at several of them.

First of all, we have this fact: there is no scientific evidence indicating that God exists. We all know that. For example, God has never left behind any physical evidence that shows that he is real. None of Jesus’ miracles left behind any physical evidence either. God has never taken over all the TV and radio stations and broadcast a message to mankind. There is the Bible, but as we will see in Section 2 the Bible has problems of its own. And so on. So let’s agree that there is no empirical evidence showing that God exists:

* If we had scientific proof of God’s existence, we would talk about the “science of God” rather than “faith in God”.
* If we had scientific proof of God’s existence, the study of God would be a scientific endeavor rather than a theological one.
* If we had scientific proof of God’s existence, all religious people would be aligning on the God that had been scientifically proven to exist.
* Etc.

Second, we have the fact that there is no statistical evidence that God answers prayers. No non-fradulent scientific study has found any evidence that prayer works. For example, if we have a prayer group pray for certain people in a hospital but not for others, the people who were prayed for don’t get better any faster or live any longer. The prayers have zero statistical effect. We will discuss this in much more detail in Chapters 6 and 7.

Simply think about the world around you. First, if there were conclusive statistical evidence that God answers prayers, that would provide scientific evidence that God exists. Second, we can see that there are not two laws of probability — one for Chistians who pray and one for everyone else. There is a single law of probability that applies equally to everyone. Prayers have zero effect in any statistical study.

Key Point
There are not two laws of probability — one for people who pray and one for everyone else. There is a single law of probability that applies equally to everyone. Prayers have zero effect in any statistical study.
Third, we have quite a bit of daily evidence that also suggests that God is imaginary. For example, there is the paradox of Neva Rogers from Chapter 1. In this case Neva prays openly to God and then gets shot in the head four times. There is the paradox of Steve Homel’s house, where Steve prays and his house is saved. Unfortunately, the 39 other houses on his street are cursed and burn to the ground. That 97.5% failure rate for prayer makes it feel like the survival of Steve’s house is pure coincidence rather than a miracle. We see paradoxes like that constantly, and they all point to the fact that God is imaginary.

Fourth, we have the fact that all of the gods of the past truly were imaginary. We all know with certainty that the Egyptian gods, the Roman gods and the Aztec gods were completely fictitious. Otherwise we would not have started to worship Jesus. We would be worshiping Ra or Zeus rather than Jesus if Ra or Zeus were real.

Now we can start adding pieces of new evidence showing us that God does not exist. For example, we have the case of amputees as described in this chapter. If God is real, it is apparent that there is something very odd about amputees. God is supposedly answering millions of prayers on earth every day, but he completely ignores amputated limbs and refuses to restore them. That makes no sense according to the Standard Model of God and Jesus’ statements in the Bible. God’s treatment of amputees is inexplicable if God exists, but makes a lot of sense if God is imaginary.

We have all of this evidence to show that God is imaginary. If we were in a court of law looking at this question, the judge would quickly rule that God is imaginary. There is no concrete evidence that God is real and lots of evidence that he is imaginary.

If you are a thoughtful, curious person, the case of amputees really makes you wonder: Is God real or is he imaginary? Let’s try looking at another example and see if it sheds any light on this situation…

http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com
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April 9, 2009 9:01pm
side show bob

Bloody hell Rebel Heart, You must be a lefty. You use to many electrons to promote your cause. I have no beef if you do not believe in God, it’s fine with me, I do. Why do those that feel they are so right in their values or ideas have to print out the “war and peace” just to make their case. I’m happy to state that I believe in God, if you are not happy write to your MP.As for the rest, I believe there is a passage in the bible( yes I know you probably don’t give a fat rat’s toss about the bible)that goes something like this “not all is revieled to mankind” I suspect a great deal is not revielded .
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April 9, 2009 9:56pm
goonix

tl;dr
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April 9, 2009 10:00pm
jarbury

I kinda hope Rebel Heart spent all afternoon typing that out, but I am worried it’s just a rant copied and pasted from somewhere else.
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April 9, 2009 10:01pm
hayek

It is a rant copied and pasted from somewhere else. At first it seems like something an obsessive person did, and I found the though of some nerdy first year philosophy student sitting around typing it out hilarious, but then I skimmed it and it says stuff like “we will talk about that in chapter 19” etc

This time of year I celebrate religion for the marshmellowy chocolate and sweet-spiced-bread goodness. I wonder if rebel heart is abstaining on principle?
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April 9, 2009 10:06pm
Rebel Heart

Why are you Christians always so angry?
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April 10, 2009 1:45am
ophiuchus

It’s just a joke rebel.
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April 10, 2009 2:48am
OECD rank 22 kiwi

What happened to Adam and Steve? Ho ho ho.
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April 10, 2009 4:08am
sbk

“Why are you christians so angry?.”

Why,

1)it’s allways hard to turn the other cheek
2)getting tossed to the lions is truly a spectator sport
3)the spanish inquisition
4)Jesus was a Jew
5)left wing bloggers

need i continue ..
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April 10, 2009 7:05am
Barnsley Bill

Blasphemy abounds here. For the real meaning of Easter in a respectful way might I direct you all to this;
http://barnsleybill.blogspot.com/2009/04/easter-fairy-tale-youtubing.html
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April 10, 2009 12:45pm
burt

The facebook page is great.
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April 10, 2009 1:42pm
wikiriwhis business

“The facebook page is great.”

haha
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April 10, 2009 2:33pm
burt

OK, so who’s got the balls to put one up for Muhammad?
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April 10, 2009 3:16pm
Matthew Flannagan

Rebel Heart

Ok so your major argument boils down to this:

[1] The Christianity teaches that that God will always give people who pray what they ask for [2] God does not always give people who pray what they ask for. Therefore, [3] Christianity teaches at least one falsehood.

The obvious problem is [1]. I know of no form of Christianity or any Christian Theologian of any standing who taught what you spell out in this premise.
You try to avoid this glaringly obvious point ( or at least obvious if you bothered to study the positions you attack) by suggesting the scriptures teach [1] the problem is your exegesis is flawed, it largely consists of quoting single lines out of context. Given the length of your post and the fact David does not want to repeated I can’t give a detailed exegesis of every point. Here I will limit myself two your first to examples, but the same could be said about the others.

1. You cite Matt 7:8 “ask and you shall receive” and assert without argument that this phrase means God will give you whatever you want. The problem with this is that in Luke’s Gospel Jesus uses this phrase again and explains what he meant by this phrase by it oddly enough he does not say it means what you said he mean’t. (Luke 11:9-13). Moreover if you bother to read the passage in context, instead of citing it out of context, you’ll see the context does not support the unqualified reading you propose. Matt 7:1-7 Christ exhorts his disciples to gain the moral integrity and discernment to make constructive moral judgments, its in this context that Christ tells them to “ask and you shall receive” funnily enough the contextual reading fits well with Christ’s own explanation of what he meant.

2. You cite Matt 17:20, suggesting that the reference to a mustard seed and moving mountains means Christ is saying that if you have a tiny amount of faith you do anything. Three problems here first the phrase moving mountains is a common Semitic proverb for “overcoming obstacles” second, Christ explains the mustard seed metaphor a few chapters earlier and its clear the force of the metaphor is that a mustard seed, in the future grows into a large tree. Third the context is about the disciples asking to overcome evil not a general statement about anything.

3 You cite Matt 18 where it refers to “two or three being gathered” and assert that this teaches that Christ is present in our prayers. In fact the context of Matt 18 has nothing to do with prayer. If you bothered to read or cite the context you’ll see in fact its talking about a quasi judicial setting, Christ has just said that accusations require “two or three” witnesses to substantiate them before an assembly, and in that context talks to being present when two or three are gathered together.
I am sure that if I grabbed some posts you had written, pulled comments out of context I could attribute to you almost any position I choose. But that would not be an honest assessment of your claims
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April 10, 2009 5:19pm
getstaffed

God created the universe in 7 ‘days’. It would have taken longer if He’d had to read rebel heart’s rant first!
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April 10, 2009 9:38pm
Patrick Starr

“God created the universe in 7 ‘days’. It would have taken longer if …………!” he needed to get a resourse consent

But the premise always begs the question: What was God doing before he created the heaven and the earth?
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April 11, 2009 9:39am
Madeleine

Assuming of course there was a before in the sense of before in time. Augustine of Hippo actually discussed this point in The City of God some 1600 years ago. It’s still widely discussed amougst Christian Philosophers of time today. So its not like question is really begged is it?

Its more that many people publically state a question and ignore centuries of scholarship on the issue and then claim its always been begged by Christian authors.
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April 11, 2009 3:39pm
Patrick Starr

Okay Madeleine I’ll play your game – I beg the answer? do you have it? did Augustine of Hippo find it?

I dont want to ignore centuries of scholarship on the issue, I want to know what the answer is?
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