General Debate 13 March 2009

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Glutaemus Maximus

There is something very, very wrong when the Mother of J Broughton.

The cold blooded killer of Karen Aim, is on TV, and in her interview she states that he is really a good boy.

How the whole thing was tragic, but had brought the family closer to-gether.

Not a huge amount of embarrassment, or contrition.No sincere regard or reflection on the victims family, friends, or township.

She conveniently skipped over the fact that the little shit had had a trial run, less than 2 weeks before.

Using a rock to bash the head of an innocent young girl. And in a shocking way that made his mate vomit.

Like the odious Victoria Stevens, and her antics.

It occurs to me that stopping the benefits of immediate family might make them a little less laissez faire about the evil acts the little shits perpetrate.

Just like the hoarding scumbag on the TV last night. Would love a panel of Military doctors to thoroughly assess that retard.

Last, but not least the young couple on ‘Fair Go’ squeeling about being charged for drinking the Penfolds Grange was another story of beligerent entitlement culture.

How about not drinking at all? They were a couple of chancers, blaming everyone but themselves.
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March 13, 2009 8:21am
tvb

Whale OIl has picked up on a letter from Margaret Wilson decrying the re-adoption of courtesy titles in our honours system. She states that it is “so yesterday”. What she misses is that not everything about our colonial heritage is bad and there is nothing wrong in having ancient titles brought back that recognises talent. I assume she will not be adopting the title of “Dame” while she swans around an ancient English University of Cambridge. I trust she is enjoying that “so yesterday” institution.
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March 13, 2009 8:34am
Pascal

DPF, can you talk to Rodney and John Key and see if you can get this entrenched nanny state Labour created out of our lives? Here is the scenario.

A fellow on Kiwibiker was wanting to sell his motorcycle. He tried on Trademe and was unsuccessful, because it is primarily a track-day bike. (No registered for road use, it’s for track time) So, he conceived of an idea. He would sell posters at $50 a pop, and those would all go into a lucky draw. The winner of the lucky draw would get the option to win the bike for $1. The names were all to be on tickets and drawn, in front of everybody who could attend, in Pukekohe next weekend. He was selling 250 tickets, which would cover the cost of the bike. He was also adding a second prize of a LCD TV and a third prize of a hard-drive recorder.

It is an innovative way to dispose of his private property and it had a lot of us fairly excited about the prospects. But what happens? He gets a call from a government department who tells him he cannot proceed and that they will make an example of him if he tries it.

WTF?!?

This is private property. People have chosen to accept his conditions and to buy tickets. Why the fuck is the government involved in this at all? This, in my mind, is utterly disgusting. Yet, just a few posts below you see the story of a drink driving mother to be and I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts the government won’t interfere because of (x), (y) or (z). You see that type of bullshit time and time again. Do something criminal and the government looks the other way. Try to do something with your own property and you have three thousand page documents to read, four years of red-tape and then you’ve managed to reach somebody who could talk to you about it.
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March 13, 2009 8:40am
Neil

Watching Channel 94 Parliament yesterday I have started getting nervous tremors about how things are transpiring in the House of Representatives.
Gerry Brownlee is certainly not a success as leader of the House. He is caught out so much of the time by Dr Cullen(An artful oppopnent)that he seems to be like a bubble at sea. He needs to do a lot more homework, the best I can see is that he should resign all his portfolios to concentrate on leading the house.
The Speaker Lockwood Smith has developed unfortunate habits where he seems to be making responses on the hoof, finding they are not working, apologising and looking very weak. Cullen and Brownlee both indirectly criticised him yesterday. He looks weak and instead of being fair seems to in a constant dither with that “schoolbnoy caught with his hands in the cookie jar look”. The opposition,especially Cullen,Mallard and Darren Hughes are having a field day.
I also wonder whether Nick Smith has gone too far with the ACC thing. His response at the select committee meeting yesterday was bizarre while in the house he reacts strangely.
A special plug for Chris Finlayson. I respect him greatly for his efficient but tongue in cheek answers. Well done !
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March 13, 2009 8:47am
WebWrat

“so yesterday”

Klark
Kullen
Labour
Socialism
Commos
Che
Goff
Winston
Magaret Wilson
Etc
On and on.
Ad infinitum.

Hang on!

She probably thinks all that is still relevant.
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March 13, 2009 8:48am
peterwn

Pascal

1. Tademe do not need to accept any item.

2. What the guy did was try and run a lottery and these have been regulated in many countries partly for moral reasons and partly because they were a common vehicle for rip-off merchants. For example it is very tempting to sell the tickets including one to a friend and rig the draw.

Kirks, Wellington’s premier department store got ‘pinged’ by the authorities years ago. They baked a birthday cake containing sixpences (as was common with Christmas puds until Reserve Bank changed the alloy which reacted with the ingredients) and offered each customer a piece – this was regarded as an unlawful lottery.
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March 13, 2009 8:56am
goodgod

Yes but pascal, he is doing something “criminal”. The trick here is to not engage with the government dept. and carry on regardless. He cannot be absolved of his crime until he is a criminal.
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March 13, 2009 8:59am
TimG_Oz

Only a few weeks ago one poster here suggested there was no such thing as anti-semitism in New Zealand:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/2257166/Right-wing-party-not-recruiting-in-schools

“As Colin King-Ansell, he once led the NZ National Socialist Party and stood for Parliament under its banner. He was jailed for 18 months for his role in an arson attack on an Auckland synagogue, was involved in the pro-skinhead group Unit 88, and has been convicted on a charge of publishing an anti-Jewish pamphlet. He declared he had renounced Nazism 25 years before, in 1981. He said he had been “young and foolish” when he led National Socialist Party rallies wearing a Nazi-style brown uniform and black boots.”
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March 13, 2009 9:06am
jacob van hartog

isnt the bike that wont sell on Trade Me ( their success rate is very low about 15%) a ‘price’ problem. $12500 is on the high end for somthing heading into winter and a recession

Offer at a dirt (pun intended) cheap opening price to generate lots a bids, make sure the finish time is about 8-9PM ( not Friday) to catch lots of punters at home and get a few friends to make dummy bids to generate interest towards the end.
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March 13, 2009 9:11am
John Ansell

The point with knighthoods is that you can recognize the person who’s been recognized.

More to the point, that person feels recognized.

Under the old system, no one recognizes who’s been recognized.

Still, I’m quite happy that the Clark gang won’t be knights and dames.
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March 13, 2009 9:12am
wreck1080

Finally got around to watching police ten-7 recorded a couple of weeks ago on to mysky. (what a great machine by the way).

A cop suspected a someone inside a house had been drink driving (no chase, just a tip off).

He knocked on the door, and asked the woman why there was a dent in her car – she said that it was an old dent, perfectly plausible.

The cop then demanded a breath test and the woman refused . Then the cop told her she must take the breath test and she assumed by law she was required to do so. No guesses what would happen if she refused, the cop would have bailed her up and dragged her down to the cop shop, or , charged her with failing to provide a sample (which is as bad as being guilty of drunk driving I believe).

This case, is very similar to the senior cop who recently required a breath test but refused.

I can’t believe the cops get away with this thing, but joe or jody average can’t .
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March 13, 2009 9:14am
Glutaemus Maximus

Just occurs to me that there should be a 50% tariff load on any individual in known GANG membership or association, found guilty of violent crimes, or crimes that violence is used.

Conversely, and more controversially there could be a 50% discount when those violent crimes are against another GANG member or associate. Particulary murder/manslaughter.

In any event the cessation of all benefits to immediate family or co-dwellers should be immediate on any conviction.

That would make Gang activity a lot less trendy.
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March 13, 2009 9:17am
Glutaemus Maximus

‘I can’t believe the cops get away with this thing, but joe or jody average can’t .’

Wreck, Billy Broad Bunter said that there were very special circumstances in that Top Cop situation. However it is a secret.

Just accept that as a fact, and don’t draw any comparisons.

Like Mallard assaulting folk in Parliament. The Police look after Labour, NZ1, and their own hierarchy.

Corrupt? I think so.
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March 13, 2009 9:21am
campit

Can anyone in the know explain what Steven Joyce is on about here?

Transport Minister Stephen Joyce told the Herald yesterday that the Government was concerned about the combined cost of the regional fuel tax and national fuel tax for drivers.

“We have been considering whether the regional fuel taxes are the right way to go,” he said. The Government was committed to the Auckland rail electrification, “but we’re not convinced regional fuel tax is the best way to fund it”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10561406

WTF? What is a fairer way than Aucklanders paying for electrification of rail than with a regional fuel tax? The price of petrol varies so much that I doubt anyone will notice a 2c a litre increase in July, or a 9.5c increase by 2011. Even people who continue to drive and don’t use the train will benefit from less road congestion when thousands of people move to the trains. The trains are about to be ordered for crying out loud.

Anyone know what he is on about here? Is this some sort of push for private sector funding? A PPP perhaps? Or will the Government just fund the entire amount, like they did for Wellington’s new electric trains?
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March 13, 2009 9:21am
Glutaemus Maximus

I am really confused about the huge TV campaign regarding Tax refunds from 2000 onwards.

The advert must have cost a lot of money to produce, and the airtime must have cost a small fortune.

The IRD must know who has been overcharged. They always know who hasn’t paid enough!

Why didn’t they just write to those likely to be eligible, or drop in a flyer in the next round of demands?

Frankly, I am amazed they want to pass back $700m, which is the price of a crappy little train set. Those people have obviously not even missed the money.

There should be a permanent area on the IRD website explaining the latest TAX Refund notification. In any event this latest fess up is only able to be claimed on-line.

Plus, I think the Labour Party should fully fund it, or Cullens pension plan. After all it happened on his watch!
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March 13, 2009 9:30am
expat

Margeret feeling a bit left out that she is a nobody in the UK?
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March 13, 2009 9:41am
side show bob

Been watching the Madoff circus outside the court. Many investors outside giving Madoff his pedigree. One is interviewed, “I lost 1 million, my wife lost 3 million, my mother lost 10 million, this greedy crook has taken the lot”. For shits sake, yes Madoff took the money, a lot of these investors should look in the mirror. Madoff wasn’t the only one that was greedy.
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March 13, 2009 9:41am
Murray

Be fair expat, she wasa nobody here too.
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March 13, 2009 9:44am
Murray

Yeah I was struggling to feel sorry for that guy myself side show. I should have such problems.
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March 13, 2009 9:45am
AG

Wreck1080 (@ 9:14)

“I can’t believe the cops get away with this thing, but joe or jody average can’t .”

Actually, joe or jody average can. If she has a decent lawyer, there’d be a good chance of the test being thrown out in court.

See O’CONNOR V POLICE HC INV CRI 2008-425-000012 10 October 2008
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March 13, 2009 9:48am
expat

“If she has a decent lawyer” ?
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March 13, 2009 9:51am
CraigM

“…………get a few friends to make dummy bids to generate interest towards the end.”

More words of wisdom from the socialist. What a dishonest/unethical little fucker. I doubt he even realises the moral ground he just dug up and sh*t on. What a waste of oxygen.
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March 13, 2009 10:03am
Chris2

Check out the following story, it involves a man who can not use his arms or legs suing MI5 for more than NZ$1 million because they turned down his application to become a “mobile surveillance officer” !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4960867/Wheelchair-bound-man-sues-MI5-after-application-for-spy-job-rejected.html
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March 13, 2009 10:06am
wreck1080

AG : She was convicted.

But, you are right. My point is, that the cops abuse of power (or lack of knowledge of the law) is common.

A friend (who has never been in trouble) had a really amazing run in with police, where he was continually harassed simply because a particular cop took a dislike to him. Things were sorted out eventually, with the threat of going public.
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March 13, 2009 10:07am
Murray

Indeed we have seen a few cases where individual cops have gotten target fixation for no apprent reason. Sometimes they get in trouble for it, sometimes they don’t.

I vote for fired myself. When a dog starts worrying sheep you shoot it.
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March 13, 2009 10:15am
expat

chris2 – fucking funny wasnt it. and i DID NOT comment on his ethnicity.
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March 13, 2009 10:15am
getstaffed

chris2 – the chap said “They should have interviewed me to discuss how to adapt the job to cope with my disability, not rejected me because I can’t do certain things.”. There it is in all it’s glory: Entitlement Syndrome
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March 13, 2009 10:22am
GMDI

anyone else notice the diary review of te standard in this morings Dom? short, sharp and to the point. “suffocatingly dull”
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March 13, 2009 10:30am
philu

f.y.i..dpf…

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/conservatives-are-blind-deaf-and-dumb-to-class-warfare/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 13, 2009 10:37am
Jack5

New topic:

You’ve got to praise the NZ Herald for one thing. It doesn’t try to disguise where it stands on the political spectrum.

Today’s online NZ Herald describes the Iraqi shoe thrower as: a “shoe hurling Iraqi hero” in its world headlines index. The story this index item points to says only that many across the Middle East … CONSIDER him a hero”

The NZ Herald unequivocally labels him a hero.

That’s debatable.
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March 13, 2009 10:40am
cha

The future of capitalism, a short article by Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the President of Brazil
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March 13, 2009 10:44am
greenfly

Ryan Sproull said (yesterday),
“Rights aren’t just rights when they’re used in ways of which you approve. That’s the first step down a dangerous road.”
I thought that was inspirational. The discussion around trees on private property made me think about the balance between rights and responsibilities . Y’ cant have one without the other. Your right to do as you will on private property, balanced by the responsibility to your community. I only seem to hear about the former here.
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March 13, 2009 12:03pm
Redbaiter

Redbaiter banned from the so called Libertarians again.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11906042&postID=8339448803578594631
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March 13, 2009 12:41pm
WebWrat

CraigM:

“More words of wisdom from the socialist. What a dishonest/unethical little fucker. I doubt he even realises the moral ground he just dug up and sh*t on. What a waste of oxygen.”

Ditto.
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March 13, 2009 12:56pm
Redbaiter

..and ditto again. So typical of the amoral leftist scum.
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March 13, 2009 1:00pm
Angus

“Redbaiter banned from the so called Libertarians again.”

I can’t understand why nobody has ever been held accountable for the continued abject failure of the Libertarianz party. [trounced 10:1 by Bill & Ben in ’08 for example] There are some good libertarian types out there, Blair Mulholland, Trevor Loudon for example but I don’t think they’d have the approved level of ideological purity required by the Cresswellian lot.
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March 13, 2009 1:06pm
llew

Redbaiter banned from the so called Libertarians again.

yes, seems ironic (not a shadow of flippancy in that statement).

What I don’t quite get, is that there’s been double bunking in prisons for years – I’ve seen 4 in cells at Rimutaka, and that was years ago. Maybe they’re the ultra low security inmates.

FWIW, I have no problem with it, so long as there’s some monitoring in the interests of inmate safety.
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March 13, 2009 1:10pm
MyNameIsJack

Jack5 (357) Vote: 2 1 Says:

March 13th, 2009 at 10:40 am
New topic:

You’ve got to praise the NZ Herald for one thing. It doesn’t try to disguise where it stands on the political spectrum.

Today’s online NZ Herald describes the Iraqi shoe thrower as: a “shoe hurling Iraqi hero” in its world headlines index. The story this index item points to says only that many across the Middle East … CONSIDER him a hero”

Where does that put the NZ Herald on the political spectrum? Pro democracy, by the look of it.

So jack5, what’s your take on his sentence of 3 years jail for this act? is this the “democracy”America brought to Iraq?

For standing up for his beliefs, for not swallowing the bullshit, I agree he IS a hero.
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March 13, 2009 1:30pm
Redbaiter

“I can’t understand why nobody has ever been held accountable for the continued abject failure of the Libertarianz party.”

Dead right. They actually have (or had) some good concepts yet continue to fail to get any political traction. In any real party, leaders would be fired for such dereliction of duty. Their lack of success has always been my main issue with them, and I believe this is why the current leadership seeks to muzzle me.
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March 13, 2009 1:35pm
tvb

I guess Wilson with not be adopting “Dame” in front of her name, but I guess she will adopt the title “Former Speaker” as she did in her letter.
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March 13, 2009 1:42pm
MyNameIsJack

Hey red, its a market, the libertarianz are a failed business, time for them to fold and leave the market to the better, more cost effective and more competetive players.
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March 13, 2009 1:42pm
MyNameIsJack

And here is the latest news on the “DEMOCRACY” in Afghanistan.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/student-facing-twenty-years-in-hell-1643069.html

Twenty years in jail for suggesting women have rights.

This is the truth of Afghanistan.

Elections? Pfffft. The Americans got the government they wanted, not the one Afghanistan needed.

Freedom? Yes, as long as you choose not to exercise it.
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March 13, 2009 2:31pm
calendar girl

campit says @ 9.21am: “WTF? What is a fairer way than Aucklanders paying for electrification of rail than with a regional fuel tax? The price of petrol varies so much that I doubt anyone will notice a 2c a litre increase in July, or a 9.5c increase by 2011.”

I don’t know Steven Joyce’s reasons for going cool on the regional fuel tax, but I’ll give you my view. It’s a crude policy choice to have motorists pay not only for the roads they drive on but also for the rail tracks that they choose not to use. An immoral cross-subsidy that has no place in our type of economy.

The most optimistic forcasts suggest that Auckland rail will be very lucky to carry 3% of the city’s commuters by 2020 if the system receives all the “wish list” investment that some would throw at it. So cross-subsidisation from road users won’t even be “effective” in achieving the desired ends.

So I suspect that Steven Joyce is probably reading the political signs accurately. Why go out on a limb with a highly unpopular leftie-type “punishment” tax when it won’t even result in moving commuters in meaningful numbers to what will still be a pitiful suburban rail system?
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March 13, 2009 2:31pm
llew

It’s a crude policy choice to have motorists pay not only for the roads they drive on but also for the rail tracks that they choose not to use. An immoral cross-subsidy that has no place in our type of economy.

I was about to say that if freight went by rail instead of those behemoth trucks, it’d be a great boon to motorists, but electrification is about passengers, isn’t it?
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March 13, 2009 2:41pm
Redbaiter

“Hey red, its a market, the libertarianz are a failed business, time for them to fold and leave the market to the better, more cost effective and more competetive players.”

Hey Jack, I need you on my side like I need a hole in the head. There’s good people who profess to care for liberty and they’re in ACT and the Libertarians and the Nationals. The need is for effective leadership and clear direction. No navel gazing distractions. No disunity over piddling doctrinal issues. We’ll have it one day, and that day, your arse is grass.
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March 13, 2009 2:51pm
MyNameIsJack

nah red, your day has been and gone. Ronnie Reagan is in the ground, The MAsters of The Universe are on their way to prison or penury and a new economy is being born. One where thieves and rogues don’t have a part to play. You’re yesterday’s men, nothing more.
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March 13, 2009 2:59pm
WebWrat

Hey Jack.

“For standing up for his beliefs, for not swallowing the bullshit, I agree he IS a hero.”

Are you talking about Red?

Good on ya.
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March 13, 2009 3:06pm
calendar girl

Ilew: Getting freight onto rail is a real hurdle at the best of times in a sparsely-populated country like NZ – it only ever worked when it was mandated by government through a ban on longhaul trucking outside a range of 150(?)km, and when it was almost impossible to import modern, efficient trucks.

Around the so-called Auckland suburban rail “network” (comprising one route south to Papakura / Pukekohe, and another west to Henderson / Helensville), freight is a non-starter. And so is a genuine passenger rail service with appropriate connections to bus services, unless new lines are built to the likes of:

– North Shore (with coverage to Devonport and Birkenhead, as well as northwards);
– Howick / Pakuranga / Botany; and
– Hillsborough / Mt Roskill / Blockhouse Bay.

It’s not going to happen. And I don’t want to pay a regional fuel tax on my car to subsidise the Greenies’ dreaming.
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March 13, 2009 3:39pm
Murray

Jerkoff likes his disenters like his Jews. Dead.

Go strap on a bomb belt yourself Genocide Jack. go do your part for driving Israel into the sea.

We’ll watch from here.
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March 13, 2009 3:47pm
MyNameIsJack

wtf are you on about Muzza? Been taking dad4justices meds, have you?’
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March 13, 2009 4:18pm
Jack5

MynameisJack at 1.30 on the Iraqi shoe thrower asks me: “what’s your take on his sentence of 3 years jail for this act?”

My take is that three years is a helluva lot lighter than the thrower would have got under the regime the Americans deposed. Not only would he have been shot, but so would most of his family. Any newspaper or electronic channel he represented would probably have been shut down.

More efficient bodyguards in most countries would probably have shot him down when he raised his shoe to throw it.

I’m not saying I agree with this reaction, but it’s fact.

Free speech doesn’t mean freedom to commit assault, either in Baghdad or even in good old NZ. I know lots of the NZ mainstream media lefties would like to throw objects at politicians to the right of far left, but they have a sense of decorum and a fear of fine/jail and being sacked. So they confine their missiles to words. Rightly so.
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March 13, 2009 6:08pm
Madeleine

Can anyone tell me what an “unfertilised” embryo is (as opposed to a fertilised one)?

I am afraid my “scientific knowledge” is not as onto it as Bill Clinton and CNN reporters.

/sarcasm>

I am speaking of the You Tube footage (I’ve linked to it on my site) of Clinton bemoaning the fact that if people just understood that human embryonicestem-cell research was only done on unfertilised fetuses (feti?) there would be no controversy.

Is he talking about ova?
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March 13, 2009 6:24pm
billyborker

I would maddy, but it is pointless since your view on anything and everything is coloured by your adherence to the myths of a bunch of very savage, very illeducated desert dwellers.

When you are prepared to drop your adherence to such myths and become an adult, you it may then be worth talking to you. Never know, you may ebven understand what us big people talk about.
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March 13, 2009 7:43pm
getstaffed

So borker what you’re saying is that you’ll only dialog with people who think like you? Sad.
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March 13, 2009 8:18pm
Inventory2

getstaffed – borker is just showing how open-minded and tolerant he is eh – now pass me a Tui 😉
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March 13, 2009 8:22pm
getstaffed

IV2 – indeed. He’s the type who screams “discrimination!”, “bigotry!”, “intolerance!”, “narrow mindedness!” with one breath, displays each of these attributes with the next, and then foams at the mouth when their hypocrisy is exposed.
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March 13, 2009 8:29pm
Inventory2

Correct getstaffed – and however much he looks himself in the mirror, he’ll never be able to admit to any of it!
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March 13, 2009 8:39pm
chiz

madeleine:Can anyone tell me what an “unfertilised” embryo is (as opposed to a fertilised one)?

A parthenote.
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March 13, 2009 8:51pm
billyborker

Ah yes, all the god botherers have come out to play….

getstaffed, neither you nor mad maddie needs to think like me, but as long as a perason clings to the dogma of religion, discussion is pointless a sthat person will never weigh the evidence and be prepared to change thier mind.

Humanists, such as myself, are always open to be persuaded by good argument and fact.

Now, be a good little troglodyte and bog off back under your rock..
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March 13, 2009 9:08pm
dad4justice

“Been taking dad4justices meds, have you?” No I don’t take meds for the Jack in the head, but billyborker alias fugley is addicted to them. Medication time fugley. Back into the locked cell you deranged headcase.
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March 13, 2009 9:12pm
billyborker

piss offf petey petey alemageety.

Aren’t you due back soon?
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March 13, 2009 9:15pm
dad4justice

One day your identity will be revealed fugley.
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March 13, 2009 9:19pm
billyborker

Since I am not fugley, who cares what goes on in your warped little mind.

I have an email from Alex, would you like me to forward it to you?
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March 13, 2009 9:22pm
getstaffed

borker-

you have a belief system.

so do i.

so does every commenter here.

that you pick and choose which belief system is acceptable to you in terms of engaging/disengaging in dialog is unspeakably shallow.

still, your call.
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March 13, 2009 9:24pm
billyborker

No, its not shallow at all. What’s the point in discussing issues with someone who always comes back to “But god says…”?

Like maddy, I don’t care if you want to cling to ancient myths, just don’t pretend they’re a guide to modern life.
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March 13, 2009 9:28pm
getstaffed

The problem, borker, is your arbitrarily discounting & discrediting everything someone says if you don’t agree with their world view. And that still qualifies for the shallowness tag I’m afraid.

If this is the way humanism works then there’d be quite a few readers here looking for alternatives I should think.
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March 13, 2009 9:42pm
Inventory2

Unfortunately getstaffed, borker’s belief system is one that tells him that he is right and there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that anyone else is. But the way he resorts to abuse and name-calling suggests to me that he’s not as con=mfortable with his belief system as he’d like us to think that he is.
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March 13, 2009 9:43pm
kiwipolemicist

The removal of DB’s porn billboard shows that the free market works and that we can safely get rid of the censors called the Advertising Standards Authority.

http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/dbs-offensive-porn-billboard-shows-that-the-free-market-works/
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March 13, 2009 9:59pm
sethpecekajus

to ChrisM

i’m sorry to burst your bubble but a lame little get best price on trademe is no different than get cheapest option when a contract is put out for tender (get best deal) i bet you do it your self when you buy a fridge or whatever, its called capitalism, maybe even try to buy a house 4 below GV if you want be prepared to pay the price simple.
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March 13, 2009 10:12pm
wikiriwhis business

Hmmm,

kiwipolemicist has a post about gang patches.

There may already be a law against them but I have yet to see a gangster apprehended for wearing one.

I have seen members covering patches in public when they are alone.

Neither have I seen anyone intimated by the sight of patch wearing members in public. Members are too easy to identify to commit aggresive acts in public. In reality it is teens vying for patches that are the danger. They will murder to get the respect a patch entails.

It used to be most patched members were capable strong men who attained their patches well short of murder. I can’t speak for today, but gangs are not responsible for random acts of violence in a consistent way. They too busy trying to drum up business, even involving former enemies. The size of this country has seen that happening sooner or later.

Black Power and HeadHunters are now business partners. That’s a gangland paradigm.

For the most part if you don’t cross adult gang members they will have no interest in you.

It’s the teens giving them the bad rap.

As for Wanganui, I will say that if the culprits who shot the baby through the house window had of been men, they would’ve kicked the door down and identified their target before shooting. The fact they didn’t showed their cowardice in the act.
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March 13, 2009 10:47pm
goodgod

Not good. Anyone else smell a slightly squiffy rat in respect of the increase being from more deaths being reported?!?

A strange premise indeed.

I would’ve guessed that a death certificate required by law would make all deaths officially reported. Are there a large number of people dying anonymously?

So is it that journalists are the ones who haven’t reported it?

Or is it that the Review Committee actively turned blind eye to it, leaving it our of T.O.R. of their reports?
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March 14, 2009 8:48am
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Once again the Master teaches the Apprentice:
It’s a recipe for poverty, Douglas says

The question has to be, “Why send a boy in to do a Man’s work?”
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March 14, 2009 9:24am
getstaffed

“Why send a boy in to do a Man’s work?”

Because it’s smarter than trusting a horse 🙂
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