General Debate 7 February 2009

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Glutaemus Maximus

So the fourteen year old that killed Karen Aim had what in his head when he bludgeoned her?

Some notion of Gang Membership? Perhaps?

He had done a quick wee trial on another young girl, and is was so horrible, that his mate threw up.

Then we have the ‘Security Man’ sharing the proceeds of Karen’s handbag, at $20 each. Then he tried to throw the scent off!

Just what is going wrong with the sensibilities of this Generation?

His proud Grand Parents must be devastated.

Something has to be done to criminalise gang membership? Or get the marketing message across that this life is not ‘Cool’
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February 7, 2009 8:56am
dad4justice

Gang membership is a huge concern, but so is the reluctance by politicians and police too eradicate the vermin.
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February 7, 2009 9:03am
billyborker

THIS is the future for NZ Internet users and ISPs.

In a landmark case that could stop pirates in their tracks, leading ISP iiNet has formally defended itself against claims by movie studios that it willingly permitted customers to download movies illegally.

In the Federal Court today, Australia’s third largest ISP – which could face millions in damages – argued the case was “like suing the electricity company for things people do with their electricity”.

iiNet filed its defence yesterday, claiming that the Copyright Act and Safe Harbour provisions introduced with the US free trade agreement stipulated that ISPs were not liable for copyright infringement by customers.

Today, Justice Dennis Cowdroy said the formal hearing would tentatively begin on October 5 and both sides would have two weeks to present evidence and make their case.

Late last year, seven major movie studios and the Seven Network filed suit against iiNet for allegedly allowing its users to download pirated movies and TV shows using BitTorrent.

The landmark case will determine the lengths to which an internet provider must go to prevent illegal downloading on its network.

A loss for the movie industry could leave it no choice but to go after individual downloaders, as has occurred in the US. However, if iiNet loses, all ISPs could be forced to disconnect customers identified by the movie studios as illegal downloaders.

Full article at http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/opening-salvos-in-landmark-piracy-case/2009/02/06/1233423481609.html
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February 7, 2009 9:16am
billyborker

Mrs Borker! I WANT THIS NOW!

Gotta be the greatest gadget E V E R !
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February 7, 2009 9:22am
billyborker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
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February 7, 2009 9:25am
Brian Smaller

Is it just me or does beating the Aussies twice in one night (7s and cricket) make today seem just that little bit brighter?
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February 7, 2009 9:34am
billyborker

Its just you.
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February 7, 2009 9:38am
Michael E

I’m with Brian, not the troll. Aussie are behind Wales (just like in 1987), and Brad Haddin and Ricky Ponting have motivated the Slack Caps into clinical cricketers.

Plus Wales comprehensively beat a NZ team that was determined to play stupidly – brilliant.
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February 7, 2009 9:58am
bringbackthebiff

Brian

What I don’t get is how Clarke can be MOTM when his side lost. There seems to be a disturbing trend in Aussie sport (well if you are an aussie you might be disturbed) toward giving lollies to losers. Lockyer at the RL world cup is another example.

The MOTM award last night flew in the face of Elliot’s composure or even Mill’s consistency.

PS
To all I enjoyed Waitangi day in fine style. I took an MDO from work, and joined kiwi mates in a hangi and a few beers.

It was choice.

BBTB
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February 7, 2009 10:06am
LUCY

Sweden is getting nuclear power (a cleaner greener energy source). Greenpeace is as mad as hell.
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February 7, 2009 10:13am
Sonny Blount

That Macbook wheel looks terrible.

45 mins for the reviewer to type and send an email, no thanks.
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February 7, 2009 10:24am
Glutaemus Maximus

Would love to see Nuclear power in NZ.

It is clean, and as long as the Chinese and/or Russians don’t get involved it will be fine.

Right now here in Northern England it is -2’C

So much for Global Warming, and all the money that Al Gore wants to make with his new Sect!!
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February 7, 2009 10:41am
Brian Smaller

BBTB – I didn’t see that Clarke got man of the match. Not only did his team not win, he choked and got out on 98. It is simple case of Aussie sports being unable to admit that a better side on the day beat them. And they say NZers have a chip on their shoulders and should ‘grow up’ when the ABs have the odd loss or patch of bad form.
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February 7, 2009 10:47am
Viking2

Lots more to come from Daniel and the boys yet. Will occasionally stumble just like the sevens and that’s ok.
We are still ahead.
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February 7, 2009 10:52am
3-coil

Great to see the Aussie cricketers buckling under pressure, and choking.

They’re reduced to cheating….and even then, they still can’t win!
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February 7, 2009 11:10am
Viking2

Thanks to Transit and its allies and the RMA et al we appear to have again spent humongous amounts of money for another stuff up. I refer of course to the new toll road. Two long weekends and two long queues, 17KM yesterday and no one was going anywhere.
I saw that Whaleoil was off to take a look and today haven’t been able to log onto his site so presume he has been lost in a tunnel. (now some might say good job, but it won’t be me.)
Anyone else willing to try the road this weekend. Lord only knows what it will be like tomorrow.
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February 7, 2009 11:18am
Hagues

3-coil “They’re reduced to cheating….”

I thought that was business as usual for them!
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February 7, 2009 11:31am
3-coil

Hagues – fair point.
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February 7, 2009 11:58am
dad4justice

Speaking of ocker dirty tricks is Ricky Ponting down at the local bowling club rolling down a few underarm balls?
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February 7, 2009 12:12pm
billyborker

Nope, he’s at home, polishing his shiny new Bentley.
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February 7, 2009 12:13pm
dad4justice

Another one for police billy.
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February 7, 2009 12:15pm
billyborker

d4j, you O know you can be charged with wasting police time?
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February 7, 2009 1:17pm
macdee

fyi, anyone stung by Dominion Finance collapse

Media Release: Saturday 7th February 2009

EUFA
(Exposing Unacceptable Financial Activities Inc Soc)

http://www.eufa.co.nz

It has come to the attention of angry Dominion Finance Investors, that the home of Hayden Butler, son and ex employee of Dominion Finance Ltd Directors Terence (Terry) and Anne Butler – is to be Auctioned on site by Kellands Real Estate this coming Sunday 8th Feb at 2.00pm. It is reported that the home is superbly decorated and provides luxury and full comfort.
The home situated at 17 Ventnor Road has a CV of $1,350.000.
The Title to this property clearly states that it is a ‘Butler’ property, in the names of:

Owner: Paul Winstone Forsyth, Abigail Louise Butler, Hayden Stuart Butler, Terence Maxwell Butler
Street Address: 17 Ventnor Road
Territorial Authority: Auckland City (7)
Certificate of Title: NA855/217
A second home situated at – 30 Allen Johnstone Place, St Johns Park Auckland, belonging to the daughter of Terence (Terry) and Ann Butler is being marketed by Harcourts of Remuera, and is to be Auctioned on site on March 1st 2009. The advertising says – Owners moving overseas!!!!

Again the Title clearly states that this is a ‘Butler’ property, in thre names of:

Owner: Terence Maxwell Butler, Paul Winstone Forsyth
Street Address: 30 Allen Johnstone Place
Territorial Authority: Auckland City (7)
Certificate of Title: NZ103B/42

The Parents of Hayden Butler – Terence (Terry) and Ann Butler were the founders of Dominion Financé Ltd, and Dominion Finance Group Limited, of which one was put into Receivership last year and the other was put into liquidation recently.

Terry and Ann Butler live near by in a very elaborate home which is well secluded from the public and is protected with security gates.
Victims of the troubled finance company are desperate for authorities to step in and freeze funds from asset sales including funds from house sales.

An Investor who contacted EUFA today stated

“All proceeds from sales of any of this family’s assets should be held in a Solicitors Trust account until a full investigation into the money trail is held. These people should be treated like the rest of us by the appropriate authorities and insolvency laws strongly enforced.”.

Both of these properties can be viewed on these respective links:

http://www.kellands.co.nz/pol/property/search.asp?f_propertyID=973403&xsl=4408

http://www.harcourts.co.nz/pcQSearch?qst=RM081203

Contact

Suzanne Edmonds

0274476976
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February 7, 2009 1:18pm
Komata

Apropos the Nuclear Power option raised ealier:

From memory, back in the mid-60’s, (1964?) the old NZED did a survey of the country to determine the best site/s for an atomic power station.

From memory, the best site at the time was on the Kaipara Harbour – specifically on the spit of land that forms the Southern side of the Harbour entrance (South Head).

It was felt that this site offered the best option in terms of location relative to Auckland, (and a consequently shorter transmission line), coolant water from the harbour, and ease of access from Helensville.

Interestingly, it was also the one site found nationally where, if there was an ‘accident’ (!) and radio-active gas DID escape, it would cause the least amount of damage to living beings and infrastructure as the predominantly SW-NW prevailng-wind would carry any emmisions across the North end of the Kaipara harbour and then over the narrow and relatively-uninhabited area of land, between the Eastern shore of the harbour and the Pacific Ocean.(remembering of course that this was before this before Whangarei and the Hibicus Coast et al became an area of intense urbanisation ).

It WAS recognised that the citizens of Maungatoroto, Waipu etc would be casualties if such an event did take place. This consequence was deemed to be unacceptable, and the project was dropped as a result.

IMHO, if the nuclear option ever was revived, the only area which would now be a contendor for such a site would be the Aupori peninsular ‘way up North’ and I doubt that local Maori would be exactly excited about the possibility.

Despite the yells and screams form the environmentalists and nimby’s, Hydro-generation will continue to be the best option for NZ – at least a lake LOOKS nice and doesn’t make nasty whooshing noises (or visually pollute the landscape) as it goes round, and round, and round and . . .
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