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January 14, 2009 8:40am by David Farrar

General Debate 14 January 2009

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reid

Just because my comment does not meet your approval do not abuse me. I am not an apologist for Key, I just do not agree with a comment made. Likewise, whilst sometimes I agree with comments you make here I disagree with others, but I do not abuse you. So either behave in a civilised manner or go back to your cave.

Adam, IMO, one of the things that makes Kiwiblog what it is, is the ability to combine whatever it is you want to say with however it is you want to say it, including swear words. The freedom to say anything arises from a combination of the anonymity of the internet and the policy settings from DPF and I applaud both, personally.

I’ve just been vigorously debating an unpopular point of view on Gaza with some of the regulars here and some of the comments I’ve received were quite spectacular as were some that I gave back. One example was: “Reid. I’d cheerfully poke your eyes out and skull-fuck you.” Then he asked for a fight and I gave him my email address. Apparently, at some point, we’re going to a park somewhere – I’m taking my handy ACME 20mm Gatling Gun. The winner is the one who doesn’t die.

My point is, if you believe in the topic, give it back to them in kind if you wish, or not, in accordance with your beliefs. You could of course adopt the following:

Once while Gautam Buddha was teaching a group of people , he found himself on the receiving end of a fierce outburst of abuse from a bystander, who was for some reason very angry .

Buddha listened patiently while the stranger vented his rage, and then the Buddha said to the group and to the stranger , “ If someone gives a gift to another person , who then chooses to decline it, tell me , who would then own the gift? The giver or the person who refuses to accept the gift ?”

“The giver ,” said the group after a little thought, “ Any fool can see that,” added the angry stranger .

“Then it follows, does it not ,” said the Buddha, “ Whenever a person tries to abuse us, or to unload their anger on us, we can each choose to decline or to accept the abuse, whether to make it ours or not. BY our personal response to the abuse from another, we can choose who owns and keeps the bad feelings
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January 14, 2009 10:22pm
adamsmith1922

Big Bruv

In reality I could not give a toss for your opinion. Indeed, I suspect that you might have difficulty putting together a coherent sentence that did not contain a swear word or a spelling mistake.

Your constant references to soft cocks make me wonder about your sexual preference, are you fond of men BB or just sublimating your urges.

Adam
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January 14, 2009 10:32pm
adamsmith1922

reid

Thankyou for your advice.

Adam

By the way take an extra long belt for the ACME
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January 14, 2009 10:33pm
Patrick Starr

Gotta say reid, on this one I agree with you “is the ability to combine whatever it is you want to say with however it is you want to say it”

like I could have taken offence to being told to “get with it”

BTW your being told, “poke your eyes out and skull-fuck you.” (which DPF gave 30 dem) was under some pretty heavy provocation from you, and your response was totally disproportionate
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January 14, 2009 10:49pm
adamsmith1922

disproportionate, now is that in the context of Just War Theory?

BTW I agree with DPF’s policy settings, but that still does not excuse BB’s stupidity
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January 14, 2009 10:56pm
Patrick Starr

“disproportionate” Yep, the one reid uses when it suits his apologist rants for hamas
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January 14, 2009 11:05pm
reid

BTW your being told, “poke your eyes out and skull-fuck you.” (which DPF gave 30 dem) was under some pretty heavy provocation from you, and your response was totally disproportionate

As I recall Patrick, my response to that was: “Golly.”

How was that disproportionate?

The “provocation” that led to him saying that was yours and his and others interpretation that what I was saying was anti-Jewish. Look at every single post I made on Gaza. Every single one. Not one of them ever criticises anything except the actions of the Israeli govt and the IDF. If you or he or anyone else choose to read something else into that, that’s not my problem.

I might add that you can go through every single post again, and look for any statement I ever made supporting Hamas. There isn’t one, for I never made any.

The fact that you and others chose to interpret my criticisms of Gaza for criticisms of the Jewish people and support of Hamas, is not my problem.
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January 14, 2009 11:11pm
Patrick Starr

yeah, “Golly” followed by “How about this? I give you my address, and we go down to the local park, and we have a rumble, mamalover? email me anytime on xxxxxxxxxxx.co.nz”

Israel reacted to physical violence, not idle threats
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January 14, 2009 11:24pm
reid

I usually try to dis-spell agression with humour, Patrick, lest I get medieval on their bottom.

Do you know what he said to me the next morning on the next thread after that one Patrick, after which, I said I’d bring my Gatling gun and made ‘the person who doesn’t die is the winner’ comment?

I think that person and I understand each other a bit better now, and I suggest both he and I now consider the incident closed, at least I do. So butt out – I don’t care about it, I didn’t care about it then and I still don’t.
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January 14, 2009 11:30pm
Patrick Starr

yeah I do, I’m pulling your chain

fuck reid – I think you’d even argue over the time

I make it 11:35pm?
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January 14, 2009 11:35pm
reid

Only when I really really believe it’s only 11:34 Patrick.
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January 14, 2009 11:38pm
Patrick Starr

well check your post time. you’re 4 minutes out
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January 14, 2009 11:39pm
Banana Llama

No please go ahead and argue, i can’t sleep because the missus caught a very nasty bug and i will be dammed if i am catching it sleeping next to her, so i am in need something besides caffeine to keep me awake.
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January 14, 2009 11:41pm
Patrick Starr

Lol BL She probably needs a good shaggin, now get back to bed!!!!
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January 14, 2009 11:43pm
Banana Llama

Lol

It is fucking gastro or something, half the family spread their contamination amongst the household and i am the last one left who isn’t infected, i locked myself in the study and have repeatedly told them to fuck off.
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January 14, 2009 11:46pm
Patrick Starr

Eewwww. yep, suppoze it’ll have to wait
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January 14, 2009 11:49pm
Glutaemus Maximus

Well reid, back in the land of the ‘long grey continuous cloud’

And it’s cold!

Your challenge to the park meeting was perhaps unsurprising.

No worries, I am back soon.

I just find it strange that you are keen to support putting Kiwi lives at risk in Afghanistan.

And for those troops to use maximum and deadly force to quell Islamic Radicals.

Double standards laddie.
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January 15, 2009 6:19am
reid

Try reading my 11.11 again, Glutaemus.
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January 15, 2009 6:44am
getstaffed

Anti-Semitism here in NZ.

Two women were shocked after being kicked out of an Invercargill cafe yesterday because they come from Israel.

Can we expect socialist’s outrage today? Not holding my breath.
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January 15, 2009 8:20am
Patrick Starr

“Mr Tekinkaya, who is Muslim and from Turkey, said he was making his own protest against Israel because it was killing innocent babies and women in the Gaza Strip.”

so he takes it out on innocent babies and women in NZ.?? must be the muslim way i guess. Hope they shut him down and deport him
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January 15, 2009 8:56am
getstaffed

Hope they shut him down and deport him

Indeed. Can you imagine the frenzy if this were a white cafe owner in Wanganui refusing to serve local Maori
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January 15, 2009 9:11am
philu

bradford won’t be the next female co-leader of the greens..

..(she cashed in her chips with the repeal of sec 59 campaign..)

..metiria turei will get the job/nod..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 15, 2009 9:36am
philu

“..Can we expect socialist’s outrage today? Not holding my breath..”

yeah..shortly after your ‘outrage’..

..that from all the years of rockets fired at israel…twenty israelis have been killed..

..put that alongside what israel is currently doing to the civilians/children in one of the most highly populated places on the planet..

..a place where the people have nowhere to flee from the bombing/shelling/indiscriminate killing..

..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 15, 2009 9:39am
AG

getstaffed …

Feel free to lodge a complaint with the Human Rights Commission about a breach of the Human Rights Act 1993 … if you feel comfortable taking action against a private business owner for exercising his right to choose who to serve in his own property. That must be a bit of a conundrum for you, huh?
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January 15, 2009 9:44am
wikiriwhis business

“bradford won’t be the next female co-leader of the greens..

..(she cashed in her chips with the repeal of sec 59 campaign..)”

That prediction warms the cockles of my heart friend,,,, But the Greens are a strange beast

More imptly,,

Garth Georges article this morning…… absolute relevance to the irrelevant.

We got our own problems. National doesn’t want to know about Gaza…. hear, hear.

Relevance plse. We are socialist no longer!

Look in our own mirror and our own business.

Also, the new National Samoan MP had a great story to tell this morning in the Herald.

I could even put a tick next to David Bennett’s name next election!
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January 15, 2009 1:11pm
PhilBest

# MyNameIsJack (132) Vote: Add rating 4 Subtract rating24 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

“Ah yes, Don Brash – the man who nearly fell off the gangplank; the man who couldn’t sit in the driver’s seat of a car; the man who would have had us all beholden to the whims of the exclusive brethren. Yes, *HE* would be so much better. Maybe he could also teach us how long it takes to boil peas and how to keep a wife….”

What a twisted creep you are………guess what? If Don Brash HAD won the election in 2005, NZ would have had the only head of State in the world who actually saw the crash coming and knew what to do about it…….
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January 15, 2009 2:22pm
philu

“..What a twisted creep you are………guess what? If Don Brash HAD won the election in 2005, NZ would have had the only head of State in the world who actually saw the crash coming and knew what to do about it…….”

um..!..phil-the-inferior..

.brash was one of the key architects of this meltdown..

..wot with his ‘cheap money’ that was used to blow up the bubbles..

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)..a.k.a..’tlvatbotb’..
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