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January 16, 2009 1:17pm by David Farrar

David Irving

Lefthandplan has an interesting post on David Irving. It seems the holocaust denier is not just bad, but also mad.

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Murray

Keith Lockes missing twin.

I love letting him speak, makes the left look so rational and reasonable.

Not.
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January 16, 2009 1:47pm
stephen

I never cease to be amazed by the sheer number of blogs i’ve never heard of that DPF monitors – he’s a robot sent from the future to monitor our blogs, etc…
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January 16, 2009 1:56pm
goodgod

“Hitler himself said that for fifty years they won’t be able to write the truth about me.”

Well he got that right, and not just about Hitler. Hindsight gives many people a new clarity on historical events. Whether or not they’re automatically truer remains to be seen.

A lot of these “non-fiction” writers who redefine history in their own likeness end up talking the strange code of the subconscious that Irving uses.

The rest of the blog entry is as crazy as he accuses Irving of being. He sneers his contempt for an academic’s sneer in a sneery leftwing academic way. All the while he knows it’s happening too. I swear, it’s like watching a cat fight a reflection of itself in a mirror. 😆
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January 16, 2009 2:19pm
Ryan Sproull

Hahahahahahaha, that’s awesome.

“Yes, I’ve been expecting you. MEIN FUHRER HIMSELF HAS FORETOLD THE COMING OF THE PROMISED ONE.”

Fucking insane.
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January 16, 2009 2:26pm
Patrick Starr

He’s from the same group of people that believe Hamas are peace loving – and didn’t do this to Fatah when they took over Gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtsvjB8efKE
(warning explicit)

Insane – the lot of them
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January 16, 2009 2:30pm
Murray

Everyone seems to forget the Muslim SS unit.
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January 16, 2009 3:38pm
Ratbiter

I felt a strong sense of deja vu as read the following extract from the article:

“Irving is someone I’ve loathed for years (See my previous comments here (2)). It isn’t so much that he’s a Holocaust denier – they are mostly beneath contempt – but because of the attitude he brings to the business, the supercilious, sneering tone he adopts. Maybe they are all like that, and it is just familiarity that has bred this contempt. But he’s always stuck in my craw. Also, there is the intellectual fraudulance, the blatant, obvious manipulation and disingenuousness that taints almost everything he says. Add onto that the shrill ad hominen attacks he launches on anyone who disagrees with him.”

Thank goodness no-one here would ever adopt a supercilious, sneering tone, or launch into shrill ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagrees with him 😀
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January 16, 2009 3:46pm
AG

Ratty,

And I thought you were my friend. I’m hurt. Hurt and disappointed.
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January 16, 2009 3:54pm
Murray

I too am crushed.
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January 16, 2009 4:00pm
Ratbiter

Don’t be Murray – you’re a scholar and a gentleman compared to who I’m thinking of.
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January 16, 2009 4:26pm
Murray

Damn they must really suck.

And technically I am a scholar, but I stand by my right as an NCO to not be a gentleman.
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January 16, 2009 4:34pm
Ratbiter

What were you an NCO of? Genuine question. We’ve been abusing each other for months now but there’s not a lot of background to any of it.
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January 16, 2009 4:46pm
AG

I think it was the Starship Enterprise.

(Joke! Joke! I only kid ’cause I love!!)
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January 16, 2009 4:49pm
Murray

Noah was the finest skipper a man could ask for. Or an infatry platoon sergent if you prefer.

And the phrase “as dead as Star Trek” was somewhat lost on me last night since the film was playing after the trailer for the next Star Trek movie and I don’t see the Spirit II being in anyones future.
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January 16, 2009 5:03pm
Ross Miller

and Irving has actually managed to garner a living from his pen. Makes you think there must be a hell of a lot of quite worrysome people out there. But I guess there are not just a few who think Stalin was the best thing since sliced bread … Helen Clark too.
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January 16, 2009 7:52pm
TimG_Oz

Who could forget Iran’s Holocaust Revision conference.

Green Condemnations: 0
John Minto Condemnations: 0

Did I miss any non-commentaries? Helen Clark?
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January 16, 2009 8:01pm
He-Man

Israel are doing a real good imitation by burning the UN compound….
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January 16, 2009 9:13pm
big bruv

With all the bullets in the world you would think that at least one has David Irvings name on it
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January 16, 2009 9:24pm
Brian Smaller

I think he should be allowed to come here and have his say. i would like to listen and debate him, or laugh at him, or abuse him. I hate other people deciding who I can hear speak. Fuck, I have to put up with people like Minto, whose revisionism is no worse than Irvings.

I do have to say though that I thought Irvings biography of Rommel was quite good in parts.
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January 16, 2009 9:45pm
Brian Smaller

Patrick – that video was typical of ones I have seen of peaceful Hamas murdering their fellow citizens. I am sure that their internecine warfare has killed more palestinians than the current war and we heard nary a word of condemnation from the Hamas huggers. Except to say that Palis killing Palis is still Israels fault. THose guys really do, just like they say they do, embrace death.
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January 16, 2009 9:47pm
big bruv

Brian

To be honest I agree with you, it might be fun to go and listen to the idiot and debate the issue with him in an open forum.
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January 16, 2009 9:48pm
Ryan Sproull

Bruv,

I think this recent interview has established for once and for all that the guy is actually mentally ill. I doubt you’d get a reasoned debate, though I’m certainly in favour of open debate over locking people up or refusing them entry to a country because of what they believe or say.
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January 16, 2009 9:52pm
Ross Miller

Clearly Irving is mad but isn’t it one of the nice things about our society that they don’t necessarily put you away when you reach that state witness Minto, Locke, Bradford (Sue but open to persuasion on Max), Peters, Brown and at least one ex Governor General.
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January 17, 2009 1:04pm
Murray

The problem is its a circular argument. He says he shouldn’y have been convicted because hes nuts, this is clearly very true and therefore a rational argument, indicating hes not nuts and should have been convicted.
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January 17, 2009 1:48pm
Ross Miller

Murray … there is something quite logical about your logic.
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January 17, 2009 4:10pm
Ryan Sproull

The problem is its a circular argument. He says he shouldn’y have been convicted because hes nuts, this is clearly very true and therefore a rational argument, indicating hes not nuts and should have been convicted.

Murray,

Insanity can be far more rational than most sane people manage.
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January 17, 2009 6:38pm
Put it away

My ideal way of dealing with these nutbars would be through consumer protection legislation. If this guy is advertising himself as a historian but is, in fact, talking a load of steaming old poo-poo totally contrary to the facts, then he is fraudulently misrepresenting his product and should be liable for whatever civil or criminal penalties are available.
Ditto for creationists attempting to pass their nonsense off as science.
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January 18, 2009 10:27am
Murray

Its a classic catch 22, a sane man would want to leave but if your sane you have to stay, if you want to stay your insane but if you want to stay theres no problem.

Either way Yossarian doesn’t get to go home and Irving remains convicted. BTW I think the law they used was dodgey as hell and is not consistant with free speech.

Having said that its Irving so who cares.
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