General Debate 15 October 2008

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big bruv

I see Rochelle Rees is upset about the infiltration of her precious left wing protest groups, she is disgusted that anybody would infiltrate their organisations and pass on secrets to the Police, no doubt this informant was privy to many private conversations and I image he even secretly taped one or two of them……

The funny thing is that I cannot remember the left screaming quite this loud over the Bill English secret tapes….
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December 15, 2008 9:09am
Yvette

Why are suitable plantings not made on unused Crown Land for biofuels by prison chain gangs? Or in fact is do biofuels use more fuel to produce than their use saves?
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December 15, 2008 9:20am
expat

The commies are setting up a smoke screen (or attempting to in a cack handed way) – because Labour are getting pasted with factual slappings of fucking the economy and not submitting the fuckings in PREFU.

And this week its a billion more in off balance sheet treaty liabilities.

Thats on top of the 3 billion last week in ACC off balnce sheet liabilities.

Plus the armed farces funding shortfall on teh Navy, plus the Air Farce plus teh Army – that must be up there at 2 billion at least.

Plus plus plus, sounds like a Singapore hotel.
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December 15, 2008 9:46am
expat

And whats with all the Commie Filth from the substandard etc hanging around here with new handles?
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December 15, 2008 9:58am
CraigM

The NE coast of the USA would like some global warming sent their way. Anyone have some to spare?

I see it was -81 in Siberia last week. They might like a few 000 tonnes of carbon sent their way as well.

On a brighter note; local politics is boring as hell, which means that they are all too busy doing, instead of talking. Amen.
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December 15, 2008 10:24am
bharmer

DPF, not a point of debate, but a technical issue … I wonder if others are finding, as I am, that Kiwiblog is increasingly slow to load. I am using Firefox in Windows XP, but I often get just the heading banner loaded and the note on the bottom of the sceen that it is waiting for adsfac.net. The delay is measured in minutes, not seconds.
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December 15, 2008 10:49am
chfr

It is not just you bharmer but I was blaming my sattelite connection for being so slow.

I have also noticed that when you are loading new items that I can’t get the site to load at all.
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December 15, 2008 10:59am
David Farrar

There was a problem with the Scoop ads loading but fixed now.
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December 15, 2008 11:06am
baxter

CRAIG………..That temperature in Siberia proves Global Warming. The Russians used to produce more carbon prior to 1990 with their outdated factories, now that they have embraced capitalism they produce less thats why we have to pay them for out livestock farting and also why their climate is gettin colder…..Elementary Sir.
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December 15, 2008 11:54am
PhilBest

The Libertarianz Trevor Loudon has been posting a bit lately on the subject of anarchists and NZ security:

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/12/why-libertarians-should-support.html

“…….a libertarian is someone who believes that every individual should be free to do as they please as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.

That is-no stealing, murder, rape, fraud, breach of contract, libel, slander, assault, blackmail or coercion. No crime, in other words.

To guard against these threats, libertarians, are willing to support a state run justice system and a police force.

There is a third legitimate role of the state-security of the nation. That consists of armed forces to protect us from foreign invaders, pirates, fish poachers etc.

That also means that the state has a right and an obligation to establish some form of intelligence service.

The role of intelligence is to monitor foreign armed forces, terrorists, spies, subversives, armed radical groups etc.

I have no objection to the security services monitoring Annalucia Vermunt and was pleasantly surprised that they took her seriously enough to check her out. If this was done inappropriately, that is another matter and she has every right to complain.

I would have no objection to the SIS, or other services monitoring Sam and his mates, Tame Iti’s Urewera “terrorists”, Kyle Chapman’s weekend warriors, Student’s for Justice in Palestine, Save Happy Valley Coalition, Paul Bruce, Julie Webb-Pullman, Jeff Sluka, Geoff Karena etc etc etc……”

Well said, Trevor…….
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December 15, 2008 11:58am
PhilBest

And there is THIS also from Trevor Loudon; he does a wonderful job informing us what the radical Left are saying to each other:

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/12/paranoia-fury-outrage-revenge-panic.html
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December 15, 2008 12:00pm
Lee

“Student’s for Justice in Palestine”

Otherwise known as Jew-hating terrorist supporting scum. Or Neo-Nazis’s for short.

ANY individual or group supporting “Palestinian” (Arab) terrorists should be monitored by the police.
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December 15, 2008 12:33pm
grumpyoldhori

Phil, the SIS LOL, they could not arrange a piss up in a brewery.
Tame’s terrorists heh, the cops who had watched too many videos of the Princess st incident, would have had people believe Tame and co had automatic weapons.
No wonder the cops do not get automatic weapons.
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December 15, 2008 12:43pm
Murray

You have intimate inside knowledge of the SIS operations do you hori?

I recall that Hager made similar claims about the SAS and once the army had looked at his clims and decided he was full of shit they ignored and he went away.

If they decide to crawl up your ass with a microscope what will they find? A dangerous nutter who knows things she shouldn’t or someone else full of shit who can be ignored?

I for one would be happy to place money on the latter.
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December 15, 2008 1:19pm
PhilBest

It is heartening news to me that the NZ Police has been “doing its job” regarding these groups. If you follow Trevor Loudon’s site, where he keeps a watch on what NZ Radical groups members are saying to each other and the kinds of associations they keep internationally, you too would take this seriously. If these people assure us publicly that they have purely peaceable democratic intentions, well, “they would, wouldn’t they”……

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/
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December 15, 2008 1:28pm
cha

ZAP and Trevor Louden, barking.
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December 15, 2008 3:40pm
big bruv

Not sure if this has been covered over the weekend or not but did anybody else shudder at the news that Chris Kahui has fathered another child?

CYFS MUST keep that kid on a very close watch.
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December 15, 2008 4:32pm
AG

“The NE coast of the USA would like some global warming sent their way. Anyone have some to spare?
I see it was -81 in Siberia last week. They might like a few 000 tonnes of carbon sent their way as well.”

I saw a thin person in the street today. This proves the NZ population is not getting fatter.
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December 15, 2008 5:07pm
expat

US regulators “systemic failure to regulate hedge fund” leads to $50 billion USD black hole

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7783236.stm

Good times they roll on and on and on.
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