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Redbaiter

Damn terrible fate might befall the US if McCain gets elected and then he doesn’t die.
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October 14, 2008 5:36pm
RRM

America! Fuck Yeah!!!

(Beauty is still very much in the eyes of the beer holder around here then?)
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October 14, 2008 5:39pm
redeye

No need to worry Redbaiter. 10 points at the moment. Insurmountable.
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October 14, 2008 5:45pm
Strutta

check out the Daily Mail column by Melanie Phillips. RRM and redeye …an honest question… why do you think the MSM are highlighting any hint of scandal about Sarah Palin but ignoring those of Obama?
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October 14, 2008 6:20pm
John Ansell

That is funny.
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October 14, 2008 6:25pm
redeye

Stutta, what Obama scandal?

BTW Troopergate was more than a hint.
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October 14, 2008 6:28pm
RRM

Strutta – Because they are all dirty leftie sycophants. It’s all part of the global leftie conspiracy to smear and discredit the right and achieve world domination. The internet is awash with little op-ed pieces all about it. Just ask your Melanie, or Ratbiter here.

Or ask anyone else who trawls the internet looking for “non-MSM” media to tell them what they want to hear, and gets off on it!

All these accusations about Palin are called “dirty smears.”
Little anti-Obama diatribes like your Melanie launches into are called “the truth.” There’s a difference, apparently…
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October 14, 2008 6:29pm
RRM

Hint: Any time you read a piece that goes

“Obama/Biden good.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”
“Shocking revelation about McCain/Palin.”

that is a pretty clear sign that you are reading partisan bullshit.

What you need to do is learn that the opposite is also true, and that if you read

“McCain/Palin good.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”
“Shocking revelation about Obama/Biden.”

then that is also, probably, partisan bullshit.

Unfortunately, the vast, vast majority of Kiwiblog fans here don’t see it like this – one side or the other is always gospel, the other always merely “spin” 🙂

You can tell REAL journalism – it is either a short snappy report of what a real politician ACTUALLY SAID, or else it looks at one particular real-world issue and compares and contrasts what two opposing politicians say about that issue, in some sort of accurate and balanced way. Contrary to what the Kiwiblog Right will tell you, it is pretty easy to determine when you are reading partisan bullshit with a biased agenda, and when you are reading diligent presentation of the news in fact form!
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October 14, 2008 6:38pm
Fairfacts Media

But because she’s a tough leader, Sarah Palin is more likely to achieve world peace than Obama.
Talking of which, there are many scandals brewing around The One.
These include his birth certificate status, voter fraud via ACORN, and Tony Rezko shaping up to spill the beans.
Go to http://www.nominister.blogspot.com for details.
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October 14, 2008 6:38pm
Redbaiter

“Stutta, what Obama scandal? ”

So typical. So politically one dimensional. That’s why you’re a leftist Redye. You only know one side.
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October 14, 2008 6:41pm
Redbaiter

Fairfacts- not to mention extra -marital affair, drug abuse, really born in Kenya, forcing banks to make unsafe loans through legal action, friendly with child sex abusers, mentors who were killers and terrorists, never had a real job, working for gangsters and communists in Chicago, hidden membership of extreme left organisations, pro Saddam political views, wanted to wave the white flag in Iraq, undermined the US presidency, insulted US soldiers in Iraq, special relationship with Iran dictator. I’ll think of some more later…
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October 14, 2008 6:50pm
dad4justice

RRM – are you a leftist redyke? Did dad do the operation?

Edit;redeye – drink 10 gallons of clear eyes you wally.
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October 14, 2008 6:53pm
RRM

Ratty – I almost thought you were talking about Helen Clark in your usual way for a minute there!
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October 14, 2008 6:53pm
somewhatthoughtful

don’t tell me you support this crazy piece of work? I mean you guys can be pretty blind, but surely you can see she is a problem
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October 14, 2008 6:55pm
redeye

Do you mean I only know one side because I’m a leftist or I’m a leftist because I only know one side?

“I’ll think of some more later”. Ha ha ha ha. Don’t you mean you’ll think ‘up’ some more later.
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October 14, 2008 6:56pm
Redbaiter

“I mean you guys can be pretty blind, but surely you can see she is a problem”

Well I can’t speak for anyone else, but to me, there’s no problem other than the smears that have been beaten up by the left wing mainstream media and gulped down vociferously by every gape jawed belly flopping knuckle dragging dipshit leftist know nothing out there.
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October 14, 2008 7:05pm
Bevan

(Beauty is still very much in the eyes of the beer holder around here then?)

You just think shes ugly cause of her political leaning. Damn crying shame you think someones politics is a measure of hotness….
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October 14, 2008 7:09pm
RRM

No, I think she’s ugly because she’s ugly. Manly jaw, smile that is more of a sneer, some kind of horror fringe from the 80s and far too many highlights.

Political differences have never stopped me from extolling the beauty of the foxy, foxy Condoleeza Rice 😉
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October 14, 2008 7:13pm
Bevan

No need to worry Redbaiter. 10 points at the moment. Insurmountable.

Wasnt that also Kerry’s lead over Bush in 04? Look how that panned out…
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October 14, 2008 7:17pm
Redbaiter

“Do you mean I only know one side because I’m a leftist or I’m a leftist because I only know one side?”

The latter. That’s why you can’t ever win an argument and your discussions are so hollow. Your view on every issue is severely blinkered by a single dimensional political perspective. You never have all of the information. You only ever have half of it, and that is the leftist half.

(You saw the effects of that in the Harlem video I highlighted on the general debate thread.)
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October 14, 2008 7:21pm
RRM

“You can’t ever win an argument and your discussions are so hollow. Your view on every issue is severely blinkered by a single dimensional political perspective. You never have all of the information. You only ever have half of it”

And that, children, is what’s meant by the expression “Pot calling the kettle black”…
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October 14, 2008 7:25pm
Redbaiter

“No, I think she’s ugly because she’s ugly. Manly jaw, smile that is more of a sneer, some kind of horror fringe from the 80s and far too many highlights.”

That Helena Klarkovich is foxy tho right??
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October 14, 2008 7:27pm
lloydois

Cute husband though.
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October 14, 2008 7:37pm
Lee

There are far too many unusual elements and way too much volatility in the electorate to trust the polls. For one I strongly suspect that a large number of people currently claiming they are going to vote for Obama are going to do the opposite.

And “troopergate” is a joke compared to the serious scandals surrounding Obama.
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October 14, 2008 7:47pm
PhilBest

“Crush the Obamedia narrative: Look who’s “gripped by insane rage”
By Michele Malkin

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-obamedia-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/
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October 14, 2008 8:08pm
PhilBest

Obama’s Magic
Presto, change-o!

By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Wall Street Journal

“And now, America, we introduce the Great Obama! The world’s most gifted political magician! A thing of wonder. A thing of awe. Just watch him defy politics, economics, even gravity! (And hold your applause until the end, please.)

To kick off our show tonight, Mr. Obama will give 95% of American working families a tax cut, even though 40% of Americans today don’t pay income taxes! How can our star enact such mathemagic? How can he “cut” zero? Abracadabra! It’s called a “refundable tax credit.” It involves the federal government taking money from those who do pay taxes, and writing checks to those who don’t. Yes, yes, in the real world this is known as “welfare,” but please try not to ruin the show.
[Potomac Watch] Ken Fallin

For his next trick, the Great Obama will jumpstart the economy, and he’ll do it by raising taxes on the very businesses that are today adrift in a financial tsunami! That will include all those among the top 1% of taxpayers who are in fact small-business owners, and the nation’s biggest employers who currently pay some of the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world. Mr. Obama will, with a flick of his fingers, show them how to create more jobs with less money. It’s simple, really. He has a wand.

Next up, Mr. Obama will re-regulate the economy, with no ill effects whatsoever! You may have heard that for the past 40 years most politicians believed deregulation was good for the U.S. economy. You might have even heard that much of today’s financial mess tracks to loose money policy, or Fannie and Freddie excesses. Our magician will show the fault was instead with our failure to clamp down on innovation and risk-taking, and will fix this with new, all-encompassing rules. Presto!

Did someone in the audience just shout “Sarbanes Oxley?” Usher, can you remove that man? Thank you. Mr. Obama will now demonstrate how he gives Americans the “choice” of a “voluntary” government health plan, designed in such a way as to crowd out the private market and eliminate all other choice! Don’t worry people: You won’t have to join, until you do. Mr. Obama will follow this with a demonstration of how his plan will differ from our failing Medicare program. Oops, sorry, folks. The Great Obama just reminded me it is time for an intermission. Maybe we’ll get to that marvel later.

We’re back now. And just watch the Great Obama perform a feat never yet managed in all history. He will create that enormous new government health program, spend billions to transform our energy economy, provide financial assistance to former Soviet satellites, invest in infrastructure, increase education spending, provide job training assistance, and give 95% of Americans a tax (ahem) cut — all without raising the deficit a single penny! And he’ll do it in the middle of a financial crisis. And with falling tax revenues! Voila!

Moving along to a little ventriloquism. Study his mouth carefully, folks: It looks like he’s saying “I’ll stop the special interests,” when in fact the words coming out are “Welcome to Washington, friends!” Wind and solar companies, ethanol makers, tort lawyers, unions, community organizers — all are welcome to feed at the public trough and to request special favors. From now on “special interests” will only refer to universally despised, if utterly crucial, economic players. Say, oil companies. Hocus Pocus!

And for tonight’s finale, the Great Obama will uphold America’s “moral” obligation to “stop genocide” by abandoning Iraq! While teleported to the region, he will simultaneously convince Iranian leaders to peacefully abandon their nuclear pursuits (even as he does not sit down with them), fix Afghanistan with a strategy that does not resemble the Iraqi surge, and (drumroll!) pull Osama bin Laden out of his hat!

Tada!

You can clap now. (Applause. Cheers.) We’d like to thank a few people in the audience. Namely, Republican presidential nominee John McCain, who has so admirably restrained himself from running up on stage to debunk any of these illusions and spoil everyone’s fun.

We know he’s in a bit of a box, having initially blamed today’s financial crisis on corporate “greed,” and thus made it that much harder to call for a corporate tax cut, or warn against excessive regulation. Still, there were some pretty big openings up here this evening, and he let them alone! We’d also like to thank Mr. McCain for keeping all the focus on himself these past weeks. It has helped the Great Obama to just get on with the show.

As for that show, we’d love to invite you all back for next week’s performance, when the Great Obama will thrill with new, amazing exploits. He will respect your Second Amendment rights even as he regulates firearms! He will renegotiate Nafta, even as he supports free trade! He will . . .”
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October 14, 2008 8:10pm
PhilBest

October 13, 2008
America’s first far-left radical President? By Melanie Phillips

Daily Mail, 13 October 2008

“With all eyes glued to the collapse of global capitalism as we know it, attention has been somewhat distracted from the race to lead what still remains the most powerful nation on earth — the United States. We ignore it at our peril.

From the shockingly partisan presentation by the pro-Obama media on both sides of the Atlantic, you’d think this was a contest between twin pillars of rectitude and inspirational high seriousness on the Democratic side, and a joke Republican ticket consisting of an erratic old man and a brainless, wacko, gun-toting beauty queen, who in a fit of madness John McCain picked as his vice-presidential candidate.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the beauty queen in question, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, has struck an enormous chord with Middle America. As a result, Barack Obama’s media supporters are making a huge effort to destroy her.

Now the Left thinks it has shot its moose. It has been crowing that an inquiry by Alaska’s legislature has found Palin abused her office by firing Alaska’s Commissioner of Public Safety for refusing to fire in turn Palin’s former brother-in-law, Trooper Michael Wooten.

This really is a case of half-baked Alaska. First, the inquiry’s conclusions were ambiguous. It found that Palin had violated public trust through using official action for personal interest; but it also said the firing was a proper and lawful exercise of her authority, and that personal interest had only been a contributory factor in the Commissioner’s firing.

And just what was that personal interest? Palin wanted a state Trooper fired because he had assaulted his 11-year-old stepson with a stun gun, been caught drinking alcohol in his patrol car, and the Palins say was threatening to kill a member of their family.

Certainly, there was a conflict of interest because Wooten was the Governor’s sister’s ex-husband. But shouldn’t the real question be why such a man was not fired?

What is really astounding, however, is the hue and cry over this non-event in Alaska while a raft of disturbing evidence about Senator Obama’s connections is being either glossed over or not reported at all.

This may come as a shock to most people, but Obama is at the centre of a network of radical associations which he has tried to conceal.

Take for example his relationship with William Ayers, founder of the terrorist Weather Underground which bombed federal buildings in the 1960s and who has consistently maintained his radical views ever since.

Obama’s own political career was actually launched in Ayers’s Chicago house at a fundraising-event in 1995 which fired the starting gun for his run at the Illinois Senate.

Not only that, Obama and Ayers both sat on the boards of two organisations, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund. These organisations put into practice Ayers’s revolutionary ideology by channelling money supposed to fund regular educational projects into extreme radical groups instead.

Obama now says he didn’t know of Ayers’s terrorist past and never endorsed his views, simply working with him on an educational project. But it defies belief he didn’t know about Ayers, who was notorious in Chicago. In 2001, indeed, Ayers told a magazine: ‘I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.’

The crucial point was that this educational project was itself a vehicle for subversion; in the view of Ayers, its driving force, education was ‘the motor-force of revolution’. Moreover, Obama wrote a rave review about Ayers’ book on criminal justice, which compared America to South Africa under apartheid.

Through the Woods Fund, Obama also funnelled millions of dollars to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). Described by an academic sympathiser as ‘a uniquely militant organisation’, ACORN played a significant role in the sub-prime scandal – which detonated America’s financial crisis — by physically intimidating banks into lowering credit standards for poor and minority customers.

The Obama campaign has paid an ACORN subsidiary $800,000 to register new voters. But now, numerous states are launching investigations into massive voter fraud being carried out by ACORN activists who are being caught falsifying voter registration cards, registering fictitious individuals and hounding voters to register multiple times.

But Obama’s connections with ACORN go even deeper. Even though his campaign has denied this, for several years running he trained its activists and in 1992 even ran one of its voter registration projects.

Such radical links fit with other highly dubious associations Obama has made. We all know that, under pressure, he distanced himself from his longstanding mentor Pastor Wright, who infamously coined the phrase ‘God damn America!’

But Obama never distanced himself from the anti-white teachings of his church, which was heavily influenced by the philosophy of the black racist James Cone who claimed that ‘whiteness is the symbol of the antichrist’.

And after the controversy over Wright, Obama has become close to another preacher, Jim Wallis, who spews out the same anti-American message — once calling the U.S. ‘the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life’.

That’s not all. ACORN is heavily involved with a Marxist group called the Chicago New Party, whose strategy is to force the Democratic Party to the far Left by infiltrating it and ‘ burrowing from within’. In 1996, the New Party exulted that one of its members who had just been successful in the political primary season was — Barack Obama.

Whenever any of this surfaces, the Left tries to suppress it by screaming ‘guilt by association’. Not so. This is guilt by participation.

The left cries ’smear’ and ‘racism’. On the contrary — if Obama wasn’t a black Democrat, with this history his candidacy would have been toast before it got started.

Just consider if the boot had been on the other foot and McCain’s political career had been launched by an abortion clinic bomber, his mentor for 20 years had been a Ku Klux Klansman, and he had paid nearly a million dollars to far-right militias who strong-armed voters into fraudulent registrations.

Of course, there is no suggestion that Obama supports terrorism or intimidation. But the question is whether through expediency or ideological sympathy or a combination of the two, he has allowed himself to be associated with thinking that threatens the basic values of America and Western society.

This may sound too incredible for words. But what’s really incredible is that, with dozens of reporters feverishly combing Alaska for any evidence to tarnish Sarah Palin, the mainstream media has largely refused to investigate any of this.

What’s really incredible is that a man with such a background in anti-Western thinking can now stand on the verge of becoming the leader of the free world.

Please don’t get me wrong. I am not a particular fan of John McCain. I think he is indeed erratic, and has run a lousy campaign. And the exhausted Republicans deserve to lose. But the prospect of Obama in the White House as America’s first far-Left radical president is deeply worrying.

It would be a crowning triumph for the anti-Western ideology which has wrought such havoc on both sides of the Atlantic….”
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October 14, 2008 8:11pm
somewhatthoughtful

“he has allowed himself to be associated with thinking that threatens the basic values of America and Western society.”

This sentence alone proves that entire bollocks fest that you just posted to be bollocks. “Oh no, he has entertained ideas contrary to our own!! Not critical thinking………..arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…..it burns my retinas!!!!”

But seriously, how can that he is open-minded be a detraction? He clearly doesn’t buy most of it because look who’s funding him(big business), they’re not exactly looking for a high risk investment out of him. That’s as bad as how he was forced to denounce his pastor for saying (and i paraphrase): uh, hey guys, turns out our provocative foreign policy which pisses off and margainalises millions may have been a catalyst for a couple of people to blow up the twin towers, just saying. Criticism is always valid, and should be especially so in western societies even if its of ourselves. I know left and right are both sensitive, but we can’t afford to be. In everything you learn from your faults, a lot of people should learn that.
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October 14, 2008 8:55pm
Dazzaman

Palin is OK, looks wise & really good from the neck down! Seriously, she has had a shit of a time with the lib MSM who are ‘in the tank’, as they say stateside, for Hussein. The caught in the headlights reactions seem to have worn off judging by her speeches to the Republican faithful on the campaign trail. Don’t underestimate what she’s done for the Republicans, the base warm to her big-time. McCain would have been down by even more in the polls otherwise.

That said, Hussein will take it out, fuck up like that other ‘great’ socialist President, Jimmy Carter and the Yanks will kick him down the road. And good riddance too!
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October 14, 2008 9:58pm
grumpyoldhori

Fairfacts Media .
Oh a tough leader, up against Vlad the impaler also known as Putin.
She would have a confrontation with Russia in Russia ?
So she is another complete right wing idiot like Hitler.
The first two rules of war, do not invade Russia, do not invade the Asian mainland.
Think the Russians would not use tactical nukes to take out all that yank air power in Eastern Europe, think again.
I suggest you read the great patriotic war, think the Russians were fighting
for communism, nope, the Rodina.
And one thing about the Russkies, they did not give a damn about casualties,
as long as they were killing the enemy.
Threaten Russia with nukes, yep, that would bring on the rapture for all those
bible bashers.
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October 14, 2008 10:10pm
grumpyoldhori

If Obama wins I wonder how many of those yanks in their military will carry
out their threat not to salute him as CiC ?
Those who see the US military as gods military no doubt, after all how could a
Mormon see a black man as his senior.
But, the dog whistle racist terms are amusing, Arab=nigger , Muslim = bad nigger
Arab Muslim=terrorist nigger
Funny how so many so called kiwis have a problem with Obama’s suntan.
Why not be honest in why you do not want him as leader of the US, instead
of saying Bush mark three is better.
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October 14, 2008 10:23pm
Dazzaman

Well, your right about the Russians, ruthless bastards, that why the majority of their Muslims (yep, tons of ’em and growing like ants) are not uppity troublemakers. When they do cause strife, the Russians just kill ’em all! And they know that’s what will happen, keeps them in line.

By the way, when did she threaten Russia? She ain’t that dumb, despite what the MSM…..getting tired saying this.
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October 14, 2008 10:29pm
Dazzaman

“Why not be honest in why you do not want him as leader of the US, instead
of saying Bush mark three is better.” grumpyoldhori

Fuck, you obviously get all your American news from CNN, ABC, etc. All the old MSM outlets, all riding their favourite Hussein, home. Get into some mainstream or right-wing American blogs, no-one is against Hussein over his race, it’s because he’s a socialist with terrorist mates who was born in Kenya, maybe ;o)

Undertones of religious bigotry there too, hori.
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October 14, 2008 10:44pm
grumpyoldhori

Undertones of religious bigotry, I dislike all religions, the whole bloody lot are a
joke.
And since when did some bible bashers have the right to upset my German Shepherds by biking up my drive ?
The dogs believed they were an early lunch.
Hey, he must be a clever terrorist, you do believe he is a terrorist ? born in Kenya but has millions believing he has a yank accent.
Planting bombs when he was eight, he was a clever lad.
Define a socialist, US bankers ?
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October 14, 2008 10:57pm
grumpyoldhori

Palin and Russia, she stated quote, we must follow the mavericks advice and
have a confrontation with Russia over Georgia.
Now, maybe she was confused by the big words used by some like that bloke
asking what the Bush doctrine meant to her.
But, one would expect the Governor of a US state to know that suggesting a
confrontation with Russia is not that smart.
Not after the Russians had given Georgia a spanking for stepping out of line.

They will be busy, Iran and Russia.
Maybe Palin believes those IEDs are flowers.
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October 14, 2008 11:09pm
ISeeRed

grumpyoldhori, you might think that race card is your ace, but it’s more like the joker. And in a game of political banter, it’s considered the *gasp* white flag of surrender. It shows you have no argument or counterpoint to make. You’re out of ammo, out of steam, out of luck. YOU GOT NOTHING, just empty accusations of so called racism.
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October 14, 2008 11:10pm
grumpyoldhori

ISeeRed, sorry dear boy, but which side of the debate in the US has been stating that Obama is a Black born in Kenya.
You sound as slow as Key with his ideas over the Maori party.
Too bad if he ends up two short is it not ?
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October 14, 2008 11:30pm
redeye

“Matthew Dowd, a prominent political consultant and chief strategist for George W. Bush’s reelection campaign eviscerated John McCain on Tuesday for his choice of Sarah Palin as vice president.

Dowd proclaimed that, in his heart of hearts, McCain knew he put the country at risk with his VP choice and that he would “have to live” with that fact for the rest of his career.

“They didn’t let John McCain pick the person he wanted to pick as VP,” Dowd declared during the Time Warner Summit panel. “When Sarah Palin got picked instead of Joe Lieberman, which I fundamentally believed would have given John McCain the best opportunity in this race… as soon as he picked Palin, that whole ready versus not ready argument was not credible.”

Saying that Palin was a “net negative” on the ticket, he went on: “[McCain] knows, in his gut, that he put somebody unqualified on the ballot. He knows that in his gut, and when this race is over that is something he will have to live with… He put somebody unqualified on that ballot and he put the country at risk, he knows that.”

The other panelists were surprised, a bit, by Dowd’s bluntness. Not least because McCain’s well-known campaign motto is “country first.”

“No, I don’t agree,” said Mark McKinnon, a former McCain aide, after chiding Dowd for claiming particular insight into McCain’s soul.

“Well,” responded Dowd, “that’s even more disturbing than my thought” — the implication being that it would be truly frightening if McCain didn’t know how bad Palin truly was.”
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October 15, 2008 9:41am
graham

RRM:

You think Sarah Palin is ugly, but Condoleeza Rice is foxy?

To each their own, but – DAMN, I think you’ve got that around the wrong way.
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