General Debate 17 September 2008

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wilhelmus7

I’ve started a new blog mainly on NZ politics, world finance and some European news thrown in for good measure: http://confessionsofanexlabourvoter.blogspot.com/
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September 17, 2008 8:18am
expat

Mr Farrar,

Can you tell Philu to shuffle off please, he’s threadjacking most discussions by posting circa. 25% of the responses (most of which are unintelligible and abusive).

rgds
expat.
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September 17, 2008 8:26am
goodgod

After suggesting yesterday that John Key was responsible for fluctuations in the American stock market, he then went on to say:

“”Finance Minister Michael Cullen yesterday said New Zealand’s banks were healthy.

“The important thing from our perspective is that our banking and financial system by and large is strong,” he said.

“Particularly the banking part of that system is very strong – we don’t need to contemplate what’s happened with Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch within New Zealand.””

Only the hardcore 20 percenters will believe that Key is responsible for everything.

Mr Farrar,

Can you tell Philu to shuffle off please, he’s threadjacking most discussions by posting circa. 25% of the responses (most of which are unintelligible and abusive).

rgds
expat.

Put my tick in the box for a posting limit by time or topic. Maybe a max of 3 posts per topic or one post per topic per hour. That’s for everyone.

Not only will it improve discussion, it will increase workplace production nationwide. 😆
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September 17, 2008 8:33am
WraithX

Why is ACT polling so low?
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September 17, 2008 8:35am
Patrick Starr

Can anyone tell me why do they put Katherine Rich on a radio debate with Shane Jones?
She had the perfect opportunity to nail him this morning, instead she defended the bastard….err, hullo, has anyone told some of these nats there’s an election in a coupla months.
All this nicey nice might make you feel morally superior,,,,but …..
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September 17, 2008 8:36am
WraithX

I would also like to see philu banish’d – but no limits on number of posts for people – it is usually just philu who wastes space.
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September 17, 2008 8:37am
stephen

Just don’t talk to philu then ya knobs!
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September 17, 2008 8:43am
Michaels

With Michael Cullen’s comments on John Key, would this make him the nastiest, most desperate person in government?
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September 17, 2008 8:44am
big bruv

Well said Expat, I support your suggestion.
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September 17, 2008 8:45am
Inventory2

Apologies for the shameless self-promotion, but it is a significant day for Keeping Stock

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/09/another-milestone-for-keeping-stock.html
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September 17, 2008 8:52am
polemic

What does Winston know about Helen Clark/Peter Davis that is causing her to hold on to him so desperately?????????????
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September 17, 2008 9:08am
Danny-boy

Are any other Irishmen taking offence at that poster at The Standard who’s pretending to be Irish? I don’t know if “IrishBill” is meant to be a parody of Bill English, but let me tell you something for free: we Irish are a hard drinking, hard fighting, working class, God-fearing kin. No true Irishman (sorry, Irishperson) would be caught dead apologising for this pantywaist, feminised, handwringing, politically-correct, feeble excuse for a “Labour” Party; a party that’s fighting this election with the cattiness and venom of high school girls. When Michael Cullen is the bitchiest bitch on a front bench of middle-aged harridans who were never picked for the dance, you know you got problems. Labour’s a middle-class party of girly men and shrill harpies forced into “alternate lifestyles” by natural selection. They represent no-one but themselves … and certainly not the Irish.

That’s how I really feel.
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September 17, 2008 9:14am
dave strings

David
Stick with free speech on here, please.

There is no doubt in my mind that PhilU is a bother (to be polite) but like everyone else in NZ he does have the right of speech. I almost never agree wit his opinions (there has been an occasion I must admit), however, I will defend to the end his right to express then as long as he does so without slander or libel. Your quite reasonable rules regarding acceptable behaviour have merit, and the punishments for breach appropriate, and should, of course, continue to apply.

Regards
Dave
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September 17, 2008 9:24am
philu

good morning..!..fans..!..

(esp xpat..and bruv..!..here’s looking at ya..!..)

here is one of the delights i found this morning..

and this one is especially for the grumpy ones..

..stephen colbert ‘does’ the meltdown..

(very funny..!..and we all need a laugh..eh..?

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/merrill-lynch-was-sold-to-bank-of-america-for-a-bushel-of-cornand-two-oranges/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:25am
philu

and..

“..# WraithX (51) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 1 Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 8:35 am

Why is ACT polling so low?..”

(the anguished cry of the non-understanding/uncomprehending actite..eh..?

..brilliant..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:28am
Dr Robotnik

As much as I think that phil is a shite spouting deluded fuckwit, I’m with dave strings.

After all, what fun is a zoo without monkeys?

hard session last night phil? lucky you’re on flexi-time ..eh?

..ugh.?()##$@#$%
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September 17, 2008 9:31am
philu

“..Michaels (342) Vote: Add rating 1 Subtract rating 0 Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 8:44 am

With Michael Cullen’s comments on John Key, would this make him the nastiest, most desperate person in government.”

cullens linking key to his ‘narrative’..merrill lynch..is very valid/relevant..

(how can it not be..?

..it is the main plank of keys’ claims to be fit to run the country..)

..and it’s biting/resonating..

..the last time i looked..it was top-ranked on the herald website ‘most-read’ stories..

..and keys’ attempts to just laugh it off..are laughable..

..and it is his ‘money-trading’ ilk that have brought us to this sorry position..

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/how-the-masters-of-the-universe-ran-amokand-cost-us-the-earth/

think on..!..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:36am
casual watcher

A simple Yes or No will do – is there a bigger cunt in this country than Michael Cullen ? I personally don’t think so. I would love it if there was any truth in the rumour he is going to try to roll Helen – it would be perfect !

[DPF: There are many other fine terms to be used to describe Dr Cullen. Please don’t use that particular one again]
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September 17, 2008 9:45am
philu

no robotnik..i’m pumping..!

up at 5.30 am..a brace of good stories up on whoar..

and i have just had my (vegan) super-energy breakfast..and am buzzing..

(thanks for asking..!..)

(large wholegrain porridge..(not/never that (foul) glucky muck..)

i banana

raisins

i apple

pinch of salt..

put one handful (and a bit) of big porridge flakes..

..one handful of raisins

1/2 chopped apple + half chopped banana..

and pinch of salt..into saucepan..

cover with water.

bring to boil..turn down very low..stir..

..the mix will thicken..

when all the water is gone..and everything is glucking together nicely..pour into a plate..

add other half chopped apple + banana..stir..

sprinkle soft brown sugar over the top..and leave to let that sugar melt to a brown runny liquid..

..and wait for the mix to ‘set’..

add whatever you desire..(berries are nice..the tart and the sweet go together well…)

and using your spoon..puncture holes in the set-mix..

..and drizzle in vanilla flavoured soymilk..

…and then take your taste-buds on a treat…

(this has been a vegan public service announcement..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:49am
PaulL

I think DPF has said before that whinging on the threads will get you nowhere – he doesn’t get time to read them all. E-mail him if you have a complaint. As for free speech – that applies in public spaces. This isn’t, it is owned by DPF. He makes the rules.

ACT is polling so low because Rodney lost his way. He’s getting it back, but only slowly. He needs to do better. They’ll be up a bit on election day – 3-4 MPs.

PhilU – if your version of a meltdown and the end of times as we know them is a 4% drop on the US stock market, then I think you need to get out more.
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September 17, 2008 9:50am
philu

paull..

..this is just starting..

..here is a stark fact for you to hold/contemplate..

..the sub-prime problem/driver of this crisis..will not peak until late 2009..

(got that..?..)

merrill lynch and lehmans have gone..

..goldman sachs..and morgan stanley..will be gone sooner rather than later..

i think you need to read more..eh..

still just relying on newstalk zb..and the local rags..eh..?

..guaranteed to foster a culture of willfull ignorance..

..and here you are..!

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/goldman-sachs-profits-dive-71but-john-key-cites-them-as-reason-not-to-panic/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:58am
PaulL

PhilU, the day I get my financial advice from you will be a cold day in hell. Markets go up, markets go down. It doesn’t really impact me all that much. If markets were all a one way street then there wouldn’t be such a thing as “risk v’s reward”. My view is that, once again, the stupid people have been caught out with low quality investments because they chased maximum return and forgot about that risk thing.

As for your Nostradamus like accuracy – care to remind me what you predicted the oil price would do this year? I think I predicted it would drop after the Olympics (the Chinese were stockpiling the stuff). I seem to recall you predicting the end of the world.
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September 17, 2008 10:03am
philu

ok paull..

..get back to me later..

..eh..?

and..”…I seem to recall you predicting the end of the world.”

any evidence of that..?

..or are you..as usual..just plucking that one out randomly..from a lower orifice..?

and..”..the stupid people have been caught out with low quality investments because they chased maximum return and forgot about that risk thing..”

seeing as the current problems at merril lynch have their origin from when key worked there/clintons’ time..

..when rubin..(who is now an exec at goldman sachs..go figure.

let loose the dogs of deregulation ..that d be key you talk about?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 10:08am
philu

“..# big bruv (1611) 1 1 Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 8:45 am

Well said Expat, I support your suggestion..”

aah..!,..the libertarian/extreme right..

..big supporters of free speech..eh..?

..(nothing fascist about bb..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 10:14am
Richard Hurst

The large number of nonsense posts philu is now putting here clearly shows he/she/it would like to be banned. But don’t do it. Or he’ll go even more bonkers without this outlet.

As for claims of a meltdown…

…end of world…

…end of days…

…well…

..my portfilo report shows 7 percent gain…

..as of..

6a.m today..

..commodities..

gotta love’m…

..keep eating/drinking your porridge philu..

..I own your flakes…
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September 17, 2008 10:28am
philu

“….my portfilo report shows 7 percent gain…

..as of..

6a.m today….”

and from when..?..what is the other benchmark..?

..without that its’ just another lower orifice pluckings..eh..?

and..

“….commodities..

gotta love’m…”

mmm!!..commodities..the next bubble predicted to burst..eh..?

(c.f..our dairy industry..oo-err..!..eh..?

especially for those who have borrowed big to become bubblers…

..eh..?

..should i give you the links/information..?

..nah..!..fuck ya..!

..go find it yourself..if you can..

a person as malicious/spiteful as you deserves to crash and burn..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 10:39am
OllieGI

Does any one know if I write a letter to the editor that explicitly states – “vote national” whether I need an authorisation statement?

[DPF: No]
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September 17, 2008 10:39am
Patrick Starr

Does anyone know how the Cullen Fund has stood up to the financial turmoil?
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September 17, 2008 10:40am
PhilBest

I’m looking forward to “the big crash”………

the gummint won’t be able to afford to pay bludgers for doing nothing anymore after that………

it will be a bigger shock to philuseless than it will be to the “rich pricks” he hates…….
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September 17, 2008 10:46am
ray

Sorry, sick of Philu work, I just moderated him

Anybody notice Ms Clark (in todays nat. radio interview) has decided that from now on she won’t mention John Key’s name
Flopped back to the old strategy

It is all about trust now…yeah right
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September 17, 2008 10:54am
labrator

Philu, while you’re giving out economics advice, have you ever noticed the fact that we survived all of the last depressions we’ve had? I’m just not sure what point you’re trying to make. You just seem to be a little, nay a lot, like chicken little.

True capitalists know that markets go up and down. Personally I’m quite happy that some of these bigger firms have gone under as I had long thought that they’d got detached from the real market place. Now the market is saying agreeing with my hypothesis. This is a world of opportunities and here is a great big one.
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September 17, 2008 10:59am
Dock

When the heck are the bodies going to be unearthed????

Peter Davis(nee Clarke) must be coughing in his frillies waiting for the whistle to start blowin.
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September 17, 2008 11:31am
gd

Dock If you want to wipe the smile of Helens dial just walk up to her and mention LAX and diplomatic passports and watch the blood drain from her face
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September 17, 2008 11:56am
slightlyrighty

Please, no matter how badly you feel about the vitriol that Phil posts, do not under any circumstances give him negative Karma. It may make you feel good, but he thrives on it.

Ignore him and he may go away, and in any case it will make you feel better!

Leftie Trolls live on Negative Karma……Do Not Feed The Leftie Trolls!
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September 17, 2008 12:24pm
Richard Hurst

Sorry philu but diary an’t my bag.

..think..
..if you can..
..diversity…

gold.
copper.
steel.
timber.
silver.
rubber.
gas.
oil.
wheat.
rice.
sugar.
ethnol.

..commodities..
..boring..
..but safe..
..now..
..everyones running to them..
..form a line…
..no pushing..

..keep consuming philu…
..your keep’n me PIE sitting pretty..

..nice to get some..
..tax..
..back..
from you.
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September 17, 2008 1:09pm
bearhunter

Danny Boy – couldn’t agree more. They’re an appalling shower and no sensible Irish PERSON (thank you for reminding me!) would look crooked at them. And you’re bang on about not getting picked for the dance – if I had a garden full of mickeys I wouldn’t let them look over the wall. The friggin tide wouldn’t take them out. And I find it interesting that he claims to be Irish when Ireland has never elected a left-wing government since the inception of the state, which goes to prove that the working class don’t actually need a party of condescending academics who wouldn’t sleep under the same roof as a shovel.
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September 17, 2008 1:20pm
Richard Hurst

Cheer up Philu. No need for the “.nah..!..fuck ya..!..a person as malicious..” blah, blah blah.
Its not my fault your living on WINZ handouts and have not prepared for the future.
And sorry, but investing in cow juice an’t my thing.
The outlook for diversified commodities however is looking better than it has in years. Philu, if you do have any spare cash to invest for the future (although on a WINZ benefit you really shouldn’t have should you?) you can’t go past commodities and of course NZ and international govt bonds and nice quiet term deposits in NZ banks are always good places to put profits.

http://www.forbes.com/finance/2008/09/16/gold-mining-energy-pf-ii-in_ch_0916soapbox_inl.html

http://www.miningweekly.com/article.php?a_id=143210

http://www.citywire.co.uk/adviser/-/news/market-and-shares/content.aspx?ID=314455

http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/InvestmentGuides/Commodities/article/20080916/aaaea394-830c-11dd-9dcc-00144f2af8e8/Silver-to-step-out-of-golds-shadow.jsp

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYWYuqlWGQZkJaNVDS98DK64teVQ

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/16/news/companies/morgan_stanley/?postversion=2008091617

http://www.grandforksherald.com/articles/index.cfm?id=86737&section=News&freebie_check&CFID=87693930&CFTOKEN=95326496&jsessionid=8830e8c09b702c795a65

http://seekingalpha.com/article/95502-gold-is-set-to-regain-its-shinie

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200809121526DOWJONESDJONLINE000756_FORTUNE5.htm

I do feel a bit sorry for all those people who thought they were wealthy because the real estate agent told them they were or were so financially illiterate that they put any money at all into finance companies or even mortgage funds run by lawyers. But oh well hopefully some lessons have been learned.
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September 17, 2008 2:17pm
first time caller

Patrick – I’m with you on wanting to know how the Cullen fund is doing today…thought about that last night…

Cullen was an absolute donkey yesterday re Key’s previous place of work…to me perhaps it fell apart when John left????

Now more than ever we need Key as PM
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September 17, 2008 2:20pm
djg

Does no one see the irony in the election date chosen “Nov 8”.

Novate means to legally change one obligation for another.

I thought it was funny anyway.
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September 17, 2008 2:44pm
getstaffed

Anyone else tiring of ‘redbaiter_baiter’ (aka Bryan) comment bombing today?
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September 17, 2008 2:45pm
Redbaiter

Boring ain’t it? Not hard to guess what’s behind it.

As I said on another thread, he’s so frantic he makes Philu look like a two toed sloth on downers.
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September 17, 2008 2:55pm
getstaffed

Respectable sloths everywhere will be dismayed by that comparison.

Perhaps there’s a few polls due out soon?!?
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September 17, 2008 3:07pm
redbaiter_baiter

So Redbaiter, when I click on your name it doesn’t go anywhere ?
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September 17, 2008 3:08pm
redbaiter_baiter

“comment bombing”: brilliant another great T-shirt, along with “link whore”, “partisan moron” & “socialist lickspittle”. Keep it up chaps!!!!
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September 17, 2008 3:12pm
redbaiter_baiter

“Not hard to guess what’s behind it.” Do tell darling ?
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September 17, 2008 3:13pm
Michaels

philu (3183) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 3 Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 9:36 am

“..Michaels (342) Vote: Add rating 1 Subtract rating 0 Says:
September 17th, 2008 at 8:44 am

With Michael Cullen’s comments on John Key, would this make him the nastiest, most desperate person in government.”

cullens linking key to his ‘narrative’..merrill lynch..is very valid/relevant..

philu, how can can even dream up that crap is beyond me. It’s the same line that Labour use by STILL blaming National who haven’t been in power for 9 years!!!
However here is another thought if you can blame John Key for Merrill Lynch’s problems…. you could also say…. maybe it was because John Key left them 7 years ago they couldn’t cope without him?
And if what you are saying is right philu, maybe YOU can blame David Lange for the demise of Labour this election.
Or National can thank Rob Muldoon for winning this election with such a margin.
All relevent philu.
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September 17, 2008 3:26pm
redbaiter_baiter

“ok paull..

..get back to me later..

..eh..?

and..”…I seem to recall you predicting the end of the world.”

any evidence of that..?

..or are you..as usual..just plucking that one out randomly..from a lower orifice..?

and..”..the stupid people have been caught out with low quality investments because they chased maximum return and forgot about that risk thing..”

seeing as the current problems at merril lynch have their origin from when key worked there/clintons’ time..

..when rubin..(who is now an exec at goldman sachs..go figure.

let loose the dogs of deregulation ..that d be key you talk about?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)”

Oh I get it now, this is a piece of performance art. Somewhere in a large public art gallery there is bank of video displays with these posts and the responses to them displayed. The chap or chapess going under the name philu is sitting at a laptop crafting a virtual art work for a highly appreciative audience of intellectuals. Brilliant!!!
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September 17, 2008 3:34pm
redbaiter_baiter

“I’ve started a new blog mainly on NZ politics, world finance and some European news thrown in for good measure: http://confessionsofanexlabourvoter.blogspot.com/”

And your USP is ?
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September 17, 2008 4:59pm
dad4justice

Really great to see Liarbore suckholes pollute this blog. What else would I expect when the gutless media won’t lift the lid on the hold Winstoned has on Helloon. The Peter disgrace must come out before the election, please as Supreme Leaders nervous laugh is driving me insane. Nice too see phool had another productive day!! Typical from the bitch to bag the yanks again and again. What about NZ Miss !!!! face.
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September 17, 2008 6:08pm
redbaiter_baiter

“Really great to see Liarbore suckholes pollute this blog.” Isn’t the correct spelling “Labour” & “fool”?
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September 17, 2008 6:10pm
dad4justice

Grow up you moronic creep!
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September 17, 2008 6:18pm
getstaffed

ROTFLOL – Poor poor Helen. Just seen her on TV3 news.

No policy to talk about. So she peculated about what might have happened if National had won 3 or 6 years ago. Yes folks, 60 imaginary ‘back of the napkin calculated’ theoretical body bags would have come back from Iraq. Imagine and be afraid.

What a desperate loser she is.
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September 17, 2008 6:20pm
dad4justice

Hey expat she spoke of soldier body bags, oh yes Peter did well in LA!! Oh well I must sign a treaty claim as the mob and black power thugs can !! Only in cot case nutcase New Zealand !!!!
Proud to be kiwi – fuck off mate !!!
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September 17, 2008 6:22pm
slightlyrighty

By her Maths, Australia would have lost 300 soldiers! In reality they have only lost one, and that death was accidental.

Reality seems to be a place Helen is less familiar with!
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September 17, 2008 6:23pm
dad4justice

I am putting in a treaty claim as the natives ate the Moa and that hurt my feelings. I am only asking for 10 trillion smack a roos.
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September 17, 2008 6:27pm
Redbaiter

“Do tell darling ?”

So Mr. BLOG PRODUCER, why choose Kiwiblog to come out of the closet??
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September 17, 2008 6:28pm
dad4justice

Helloon’s dark closet is so jam packed Peter can’t shut the door much to the frustration of the teddy bears.
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September 17, 2008 6:30pm
redbaiter_baiter

“Grow up you moronic creep!” Bzzzzzz, must try harder. That was a pathetic insult. You should get some coaching from your mate Redbaiter.
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September 17, 2008 6:45pm
Inventory2

getstaffed – I am preparing a post on that at this moment – she is a shocker!
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September 17, 2008 6:47pm
redbaiter_baiter

“So Mr. BLOG PRODUCER, why choose Kiwiblog to come out of the closet??” You seem to be rather obsessed with homosexuality and homosexual acts. No women in your part of the world perhaps ?
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September 17, 2008 6:48pm
Redbaiter

“You seem to be rather obsessed with homosexuality and homosexual acts.”

Really?? You’re the one stalking other men with expressions of endearment and calling them “darling”. Don’t be embarrassed. Gay is perfectly “normal” today. Just be yourself.
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September 17, 2008 6:55pm
Lindsay Addie

What’s happened to Whaleoil’s website?

Anyone know?
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September 17, 2008 7:01pm
big bruv

Its back up now Lindsay, seems it was hacked by a low life pinko.
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September 17, 2008 7:09pm
dad4justice

Lindsay – I click on and get access denied. No doubt Klark and her bent judiciary have something to do with it.
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September 17, 2008 7:11pm
Lindsay Addie

still cannot get through to the whaleoil’s site
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September 17, 2008 7:19pm
Patrick Starr

Just disgusting the Prime Minister implying our Armed Forces are useless
Clark telling a Grey Power meeting today that if our army had been in Iraq we would have lost approximately 60 soldiers.

The Aussies have had thousands of troops there and only had 1 death – so why does she believe ours would be so incompetent?
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September 17, 2008 7:24pm
Inventory2

It’s going now Lindsay – he’s been moving!

Anyone else notice this nasty business from the PM?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/09/back-of-helens-envelope.html
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September 17, 2008 7:25pm
Inventory2

Just posted about that Patrick – she worked out the figures on the back of an envelope FFS!
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September 17, 2008 7:26pm
Patrick Starr

Inventory – I only wish Key could come back with counter spin – trouble with being Tooo nice i guess.

Not like Cullen having to hot foot it away from from angry natives today up north. I nearly pissed myself – imagine what the blood pressure was doing to the sad fucker – running through paddocks
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September 17, 2008 7:43pm
Redbaiter

“Not like Cullen having to hot foot it away from from angry natives today up north.”

Great ain’t it. Should happen more often. Kullen and the rest of his slimy gang of totalitarian looters crooks and cronyists should be too afraid to go out in public.
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September 17, 2008 7:47pm
Inventory2

His face would be as red as a beetroot, and his veins would be a’poppin’ like Phil Goff’s do in the House!

As for Key – he doesn’t have to say anything on this – let Clark open her mouth and dig a deeper hole for herself.
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September 17, 2008 7:48pm
Alan Wilkinson

Some software lets you choose posters you want to never see. Works well if everyone uses it and doesn’t feed the trolls – otherwise you get to watch them being fed.
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September 17, 2008 8:02pm
georgebolwing

After only five days of the campaign, I am starting to feel much more confident of a crushing National victory.

My fear was that Labour would run an incredibly clever, albeit dirty, campaign, based on a single line that Key was not fit/ready to be PM. They would have carefully drafted lines ready for all their front bench and it would be day-in, day-out attacks that forced Key and National onto the defensive and into making silly mistakes.

They clearly are running a dirty campaign, based on a single line that Key was not fit/ready to be PM. But it is anything but clever.

Cullen yesterday was silly and pathetic. All Key had to say was that Cullen was silly and pathetic, which he did.

Clark today was also silly and pathetic. All she really managed to do was suggest that the Kiwi forces are grossly incompetent compared to their Australian counterparts.

Plus she continues to defy logic by refusing to sack Peters.

If this is all the great, professional Labour Party has, then bring it on!!
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September 17, 2008 8:11pm
labrator

Has Helen Clark done any back of the envelope calculations on our economy if Labour hadn’t been running it for the last 9 years?
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September 17, 2008 8:15pm
redbaiter_baiter

“Kullen and the rest of his slimy gang of totalitarian looters crooks and cronyists should be too afraid to go out in public.” You sound like you may be one of the Urewera 17 ?
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September 17, 2008 8:17pm
Lindsay Addie

georgebolwing,

Dead right! Your comments echo some I made on another thread here yesterday. They have no policies worth talking about so throw childish shit at Key on a daily basis.

First Helen confirmed she’s a weak little wussycat for not getting rid of the poodle yet again when she had the chance, Cullen runs away from the natives so that makes him a scaredy cat. Stand and fight like a man Cullen and stop being a big sook.
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September 17, 2008 8:23pm
Redbaiter

See where that damn controlling fool Trotter is complaining about the tone of posts on Kiwiblog (again.. I mean, when will these anti free speech commie dipshits ever stop their bitching and whining?) at the same time as he acknowledges it as the most popular political blog. You’d think he’d learn something wouldn’t you. People prefer real life to filtered verbal incontinence and tit wobbling hypocritical school marms.

(PS- Does Poppa Kwis know what an idiot you’ve made of yourself here today Bwyan? Can a highly visible professional writer afford to be in any kind of commercial association with a limp wristed loon who behaves in such an unbalanced manner?)
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September 17, 2008 8:31pm
slightlyrighty

An Observation.

Recently I have seen a number of posters on here with very low post-counts. The groundswell is growing and the overwhelming sense I get is that most of these new posters are very disaffected with the government and tend to support the swing to the Nats and ACT (Redbaiter-baiter excluded 😉 ).

November 8 is going to be a long night folks, remembering the All Blacks play Scotland that night as well!
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September 17, 2008 9:03pm
Patrick Starr

I’d imagine Mrs Cullen is doing a deep soak using all her Oxymagic tonight
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September 17, 2008 9:04pm
philu

gee george..i’d have thought keys c.v./raison d etre going belly-up..

..and that simon ‘all the way with bush’ power was slavering to unleash the dogs of war..

..and that had national been elected last time..we would have been eagerly/obsequiously offering up our young men and women..

..as cannon fodder in americas’ end of empire gyrations/convulsions..

..are eminintly relevant..

..and are hitting home with the punters..

..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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September 17, 2008 9:04pm
getstaffed

SR – same observation. It’s really good to see.

Kudos is due to DPF for helping change the way we engage with news
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September 17, 2008 9:08pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Patrick Starr says at 7:24 pm:

Just disgusting the Prime Minister implying our Armed Forces are useless
Clark telling a Grey Power meeting today that if our army had been in Iraq we would have lost approximately 60 soldiers.

Our army was in Iraq. She sent them there just like she sent them to Afghanistan. No doubt helped when she jetted off to Washington to shake George W Bush’s hand and get that photo opportunity.

No Free Trade Agreement though, unlike Australia.
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September 17, 2008 9:10pm
slightlyrighty

Has anyone else seen this story.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10532724

Winston wants to get his shovel out again!!!!!!

Whoopee! 🙂
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September 17, 2008 9:17pm
slightlyrighty

I see Winston wants another go at the Privileges Committee.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10532724

He’s spent so much time digging he should be the Minister of Works!
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September 17, 2008 9:21pm
RRM

In other news, I see that my favourite zealot still equates any criticism of a rightie’s writing style with being anti free speech:

“See where that damn controlling fool Trotter is complaining about the tone of posts on Kiwiblog (again.. I mean, when will these anti free speech commie dipshits ever stop…” etc etc
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September 17, 2008 9:29pm
slightlyrighty

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10532724

I see Winston wants another pop at the Privileges ctte. Hell this is the best show in town folks!
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September 17, 2008 9:31pm
Patrick Starr

How’s the Cullen Fund going Philu – heard anything?
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September 17, 2008 9:40pm
Redbaiter

“In other news,”

Yeah well check out the final post on Trotter’s Big Muddy thread for a laff.
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September 17, 2008 9:46pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

On Cullen’s economic management record, one question.

How many finance companies in New Zealand have gone bust in the last year while Labour was pursuing the “important” issues like the Anti-smacking bill, EFA and ETS?
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September 17, 2008 10:02pm
Southern Raider

About the tribe that signed the settlement with Cullen today.

“Ngati Kahu is located around Kaitaia, Taipa and Mangonui, and has between 8300 and 14,000 members.”

Is it too unreasonable to expect if your going to compensate a group that they would at least now how many members they have?

Thats like me saying I have somewhere between 1 and 10 brothers.
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September 17, 2008 10:08pm
Redbaiter

Yeah well check out the final post on Trotter’s Big Muddy thread for a laff.””

Well, corn mah pone and ham mah hocks.. its durn gone. Ain’t that a surprise. You’re lucky tho readers, cos when I read it, I took a copy of it-

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Live Free or Die Hard said-

“New Zealand’s most popular political blog is Kiwiblog, and I wouldn’t for one moment concede that Mr Farrar’s postings are bereft of inflammatory language, absurd illogicalities, and unjustifiable positions. To be sure, he is considerably milder in his comments than his many commentators, but that’s not saying very much.”

Well, yes some of Kiwiblog’s commenters are indeed over the top Mr. Trotter. You should take a look at the thread entitled “The Rule of Law on the Electoral Finance Act”, for a good example.

You’ll see where some faceless loon calling himself Redbaiter_baiter has comment bombed Kiwiblog with 50 odd comments this afternoon. Disgraceful behaviour, and something I wouldn’t think for one minute that you would condone. Surprising thing is, although he first denies it, he admits later to being an associate of yours.

I thought it quite hypocritical that someone who enforces such an outrageous level of moderation on your blog, [ example- “Comment deleted for being pointless trolling. Bryan Spondre Blog Producer”] can go to someone else’s blog and carry on in such a disgraceful manner.

I guess anyone truly concerned with behavioural standards in the blogosphere might care about such arrogant deceit and hypocrisy. However, given your predilection for making excuses for perpetrators, I can’t see you issuing any apology, (and I don’t think many readers would be surprised by that either.)

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Now, why on earth would such a civil and reasonable post like that be deleted do you think?? Completely inexplicable.
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September 17, 2008 10:42pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Good to see that Lefties are still all upset at the imminent reality that McCain is about to be elected the next president of the US.

Their latest hollow shrills are that Obama is somehow more competent economically to lead the US. What a laugh. What’s Obama’s economic policy other than the usual left solution of tax and spend, government knows best.

It’ll be great to see McCain win the presidency of the US and all these shrill Lefties convulse. 😀
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September 18, 2008 1:11am
DJP6-25

In my case you are correct slightlyrightly. I’m an ACT supporter. I live and work in Korea. I’ll make an absentee vote. I asked a Christchurch friend, who supports National about NZ blogs. He said this one is the best. He was right.
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