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August 13, 2008 9:13am by David Farrar

General Debate 13 August 2008

Opening the window so one can feel the hail on your hand is not one of my better ideas!

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big bruv

I see that poodle Dunne has waded into the debate about Nationals social welfare policy.

He would be the most annoying and sanctimonious wanker (Winston aside) in the house.

The only thing I want to hear from this prick is when he is going to pay back the money he stole from me.
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August 13, 2008 9:15am
first time caller

Agreed! I also hate the way he tries to forever be a commentator and leading authority. Another Cabbage.
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August 13, 2008 9:45am
Inventory2

Just for a laugh – and prompted by the “massive scandal” (to use Steve Pierson’s hyperbole) over the switch of the little girl singers at Beijing, Keeping Stock is hosting a contest to find the world’s ugliest musician!

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/08/ugly-muso-competition.html
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August 13, 2008 10:02am
llew

Phil Lewin has passed away! Anyone know what happened?
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August 13, 2008 10:10am
PhilBest

Inventory2, that’s interesting, given that the way the music industry has been working for the last couple of decades, it is looks and attitude and non-musical factors that make a “star”, not musical ability at all……..
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August 13, 2008 10:28am
dime

The Greens are starting their overseas campaign…

Dam these ex-pats that live in the UK that think “yea i wanna keep NZ green so ill vote greens”

then they come home and realised they will be taxed out of existance!

anyway, my question…

this electorial finance act thing – will they bust ya if you live in new zealand but spend a bunch of money advertising overseas? or a bunch of money attacking labour and the greens??

like, can dime take out a full page ad in a UK newspaper saying

“dont vote greens in new zealand! you will be voting for a ginger with a lisp”?

hell, isnt he an australian ginger with a lisp?
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August 13, 2008 10:29am
David Farrar

Llew, sadly Mr Lewin has died. I would rather people don’t get into the details of it on the blog.
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August 13, 2008 10:44am
stephen

dime, what is the Greens’ tax policy?
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August 13, 2008 10:57am
llew

Llew, sadly Mr Lewin has died.

Bugger, so it’s true. He’s an old schoolfriend.
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August 13, 2008 12:00pm
Buggerlugs

Spells, magical curses and voodoo dolls are all part of a new paper being offered at Massey University. Magic and Witchcraft, is a 100-level extramural paper offered this semester at the university’s school of history, philosophy and classics.

Oh, there you go – Maharey’s already setting up jobs for the female members of the Labour Cabinet (plus Sue Moronic and Jill Petty)
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August 13, 2008 12:08pm
Dock

What is it with the Greens?

How can a party with so little of the vote have such an influence in our lives.

Our electoral system in it’s present form is a crock of ‘dog do’.

I think the discussion John Key is starting to initiate on the future of voting variables needs much more emphasis.
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August 13, 2008 12:15pm
dime

stephen.. im gonna take a guess… ummm tax rich bastards
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August 13, 2008 12:36pm
stephen

I suggest ‘research’ might be in order dime – although it’s more ‘philosophy’ than ‘policy’ in this pre-election period that we’re in.

Dock, I think you’ll find that the Greens’ influence has been proportionate to their MP numbers. Funnily enough, Labour is the one with most influence on our lives!
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August 13, 2008 12:54pm
Dock

Stephen
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August 13, 2008 12:58pm
Dock

Sorry Stephen
Perhaps this time.

I may be thick, but with the Greens, what part of the anti-smaking bill result against the wishes of almost the entire voting population of this country reflects the influence of their vote of the last election.
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August 13, 2008 1:03pm
s.russell

The reason the “anti-smacking” bill became law was because Labour voted for it. Come to think of it, so did National in the end, so how come the Greens get 100% of the blame?
Stephen is right, the Greens’ influence has really been only proportionate to their MP numbers – possibly less.
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August 13, 2008 1:22pm
stephen

What s.russell said. “the influence of their vote of the last election” meant they got a small handful of legislation and amendments through, as one would expect from a party with at least a ‘confidence and supply’ agreement. The smacking thing was one amendment, just with a lot of potential to affect people. Sue Bradford basically makes every other MP look pretty human too, so that probably helped – she’s a machine!
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August 13, 2008 1:28pm
LC

Quickly went through the Grrens web site looking at their policies. I like their Treaty of Waitangi policy especially that the Maori version is the authentic text (which was how it was supposed to be).

Also they want it to be a living document – so when are we going to re-negotiate it?
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August 13, 2008 1:48pm
getstaffed

Have to say the quality of rational debate around here is massively improved as a result of ghostie, philu, nome, D4J on the timeout mat, and sonic otherwise unavailable. Yay!
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August 13, 2008 2:25pm
Buggerlugs

Moss burmester in the 200m final at the Olympics. TVNZ has a blank screen. At least they weren’t replaying the synchronised swimming heats…
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August 13, 2008 2:32pm
dave strings

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>>the Greens’ influence has really been only proportionate to their MP numbers

Correct
They have the MPs that get the “Labour Led Government” the majority in Confidence and supply, therefore, just like the two Mr Hairdos, each in a party of his own, they call the shots when they feel like it.

A confidence vote today would be interesting eh!
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August 13, 2008 2:41pm
JSF2008

How much money do you think GWB will put towards ossettia to help them rebuild after the greasy head winston look alike president,gets his billions, in his swiss bank account
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August 13, 2008 3:05pm
stephen

You’re right getstaffed, but as i’ve said somewhere else, it takes two to tango!
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August 13, 2008 3:09pm
big bruv

getstaffed

D4J has said over at Frogblog that he is not coming back to Kiwiblog and by the look of things that is good news for us, he seems to have become even more unhinged.
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August 13, 2008 3:25pm
Buggerlugs

Bruv –
It’s a bit like the obnoxious drunk who gets thrown out of his favourite bar and says “F*** youse all! I’m not coming back here ever again!” and then slopes in as soon as the ban is up…you wait…
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August 13, 2008 4:11pm
getstaffed

You’re right getstaffed, but as i’ve said somewhere else, it takes two to tango!

stephen – I’m a pretty bad dancer… but I’d have to lower my standards to dance to those tunes!
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August 13, 2008 10:04pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

I hear what you’re saying Buggerlugs at 12.08pm.

Steve Maharey has definitely lined up a teaching job for Hels after election defeat on 8 November 2008:
Helen Clark on syllabus at Massey University
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August 14, 2008 12:50am
stephen

please make sure you don’t getstaffed
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August 14, 2008 8:38am
getstaffed

Schools lag in helping gifted

The first step is identification of the giftedness. A while back giftedness was noted by advanced thinking strategies, complex problem solving and/or virtuoso-like musical skills.

These days giftedness is more aligned to being able to read acceptably. Sadly we have diminishing numbers of gifted children. Unlike China, or India, or …

edit: stephen – noted!
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