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August 14, 2008 6:22pm by David Farrar

ACT’s new law & order policy

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chrislaing

Why is this posted under “Humour”?

Surely a more appropriate tag for this post would be “Sensible Approaches To Law Enforcement”?

I must confess though, I am disappointed that the vehicle did not strike the suspect squarely. Fortunately such poor execution of the manoevre will, as the video states, be investigated.
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August 14, 2008 6:33pm
RRM

Yeah! Drive over ‘im with the truck! WE know he’s guilty.

You wait around for courts n’ hearin’s, some shyster lawyer’ll go’n get him off…
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August 14, 2008 6:35pm
chrislaing

(Just to be clear, my post was intended to sound facetious :D)
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August 14, 2008 6:43pm
Zarchoff

It’ll only be a matter of time before National steals it, then denies it, then says they are still working on it, then brings out a watered down version, then flip-flops and goes with the status quo.
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August 14, 2008 6:44pm
toad

Now, that’s naughty DPF. The Nats might just need ACT to form a Government after the election.

Especially given that any post-election arrangement between the Nats and the Greens to form a Government just got big-time more difficult today, given the unsustainable nonsense in the Nats’ energy policy.

So not a good idea strategically to take the piss out of ACT to that extent. The humour may not be appreciated by them (but I’m loving it)!.

[DPF: It will be a sad day if I ever have to subsume my sense of humour to strategic interests.

As for energy policy, you should see it as an opportunity. If you do a deal post-election you’ll get far more credit for getting an ETS implemented with National, than one with Labour!]
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August 14, 2008 6:53pm
big bruv

Toad

STOP IT!……it is rubbish for you to even suggest that you would consider a coalition with the Nat’s after the election, the watermelon element and Alliance refugees inside your party (a growing number I fear) just would not wear it and you are well aware of that.

The “maybe we will go with the Nat’s” line is simply a con to try and rope in a few center voters who think they might like the idea of John Key working with some of the Greens.

The Greens role in political life is to be Labours “bitch”, sure they will always make noises about talking to you if they are in a position to form a govt but the reality is that you will always be the last cab off the rank as far as they are concerned.
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August 14, 2008 7:09pm
Bryan Spondre

Toad: “given the unsustainable nonsense in the Nats’ energy policy.” Given that Labour has never made an “honest woman of you” by going into coalition you might have more luck with National. Why let one or two coal-fired power stations come between a match made in heaven ?
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August 14, 2008 7:13pm
Murray

Good job, I’ll vote for it.
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August 14, 2008 7:21pm
stephen

Can anyone else see ACT becoming National’s bitch? Moderate National + a less demanding UF…
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August 14, 2008 8:06pm
Patrick Starr

See if you can get the rego number of the truck!

We need that cop in Manurewa
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August 14, 2008 8:15pm
big bruv

Stephen

In a perfect world Key would have to go and BEG Rodney to form a coalition, I can only hope that is the case come November.

As for Dunne, one can only hope he is left right out of ANY coalition agreements this time around.
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August 14, 2008 8:17pm
Rex Widerstrom

Well if they subcontract the investigation to NZ’s PCA they’ll add “damaging police property, namely a bull bar” to the charges and declare their “investigation” closed.
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August 14, 2008 8:19pm
big bruv

Sounds like a bloody good idea to me Rex
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August 14, 2008 8:27pm
Murray

We have 96 M113’s doing nothing, lets reinstitute an seperate MOT.

None of that pussy ooo look out hes a got a shotgun crapola either. Eat tracked vehical puss face!

Nothing that can’t hosed off later.
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August 14, 2008 9:05pm
Strutta

OFFS!! what is the matter with all of you! David posted this under ‘humour’. RRM get a life…ACT no more supports this than you support placing an electronic chip in every child at birth. I dispair for this country if those who view this post are unable to see the humour or accept it as ‘the way to go’.

GAWD what a bunch of pillocks (esepecially those from the left who actualy believe ACT’s law-and-order policy advocates running over suspects…it was an accident FFS!)
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August 14, 2008 9:22pm
RRM

My mistake Strutta. I see now that it is hilarious!
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August 14, 2008 9:32pm
Shunda barunda

Notice how the cop blames the truck for hitting the purse snatcher.
“and as the truck was aplying its brakes it did slide striking the suspect”……….classic

Moral of the story, DON”T RUN FROM THE COPS IN THE USA!!!!!
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August 14, 2008 10:02pm
RRM

Shunda – heh, almost as classic as the bit where after Hurricane Katrina the US papers were posting photos of black survivors out “looting”, and identical photos of white survivors out “finding food”…

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/looters.asp
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August 14, 2008 10:12pm
Murray

Nah, run.

So much more fun.

I liked the picture of the several hundred buses sitting in water logged lot while mayor chocolate Nagan was bitching there was no transport for evacuation myself.
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August 14, 2008 10:29pm
PaulL

Toad, you’ve said here before that the Greens could never work with National. Why are you suddenly claiming that the (sensible and reasonable) energy policy was the straw that broke that camel’s back?
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August 14, 2008 11:06pm
3-coil

RRM/Murray – my favourite Hurricane Katrina clip was of the 2 black female police officers, looting the department store with a trolleyload of shoes and clothes…that was “classic”! I’m sure they got round to helping the public later on, after their little “shopping” spree…but heh, first things first!
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August 14, 2008 11:09pm
Brian (Shadowfoot)

Will he also be charged with damaging the truck, or interfering with a vehicle?
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August 14, 2008 11:30pm
Vinick

“Can anyone else see ACT becoming National’s bitch?”

Somehow I can’t see Sir Roger Douglas becoming anybody’s bitch.
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August 15, 2008 8:28am
stephen

Ahhh…compromise.
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August 15, 2008 8:34am
PhilBest

Seriously, the law enforcement brutality thing can be pushed back the other way, with the fairness being debatable to say the least:

From “Human Events”

“Officer Raymond Bunn and Officer Terry Mulkey were patrolling a tough nightclub area in Atlanta know as “Buckhead”. The bars in this area are open until 4 a.m., and the area experiences many burglaries, car thefts, break-ins, shootings and riotous drunken behavior.

Officer Mulkey was driving and unmarked police car while Officer Bunn was sitting in the passenger seat. They went into a parking lot and observed several vehicles at the back of the lot. They two officers then heard the breaking of car window and then an alarm go off.

Suspecting a car theft was in progress, the two officers parked the car and before getting out, they made sure that their flashing blue lights were on in the rear and front of their vehicle to identify themselves as police officers. The two officers were wearing pullover shirts with the words “Atlanta Police” in bold on the front and the back. Also, they were both wearing chains around their necks that secured their Atlanta Police badges.

A black male, Jamal Smith, was then seen jumping through the shattered window of a Buick Grand National SUV. Bunn and Mulkey got out of their police car, and shouted “police, police stop” as Smith then proceeded to jump out of the Buick and then into the back of a Chevy Tahoe SUV.

Driving the Chevy Tahoe SUV was Corey Ward. The two police officers stood about 25 feet in front of the vehicle, their weapons drawn, and again shouted, “Police stop, Police stop”.

Bunn and Mulkey then started to approach the vehicle. Corey Ward put the car into reverse, came to an abrupt stop and the two officers came closer. Ward then punched the gas pedal and came speeding towards the officers. The officer’s vehicle was sitting at a right angle with its front facing the Chevy Tahoe. The Chevy Tahoe was bearing straight down at the front right side of the cruiser. Officer Mulkey was on the driver’s side and escaped to a position on the left front of the driver’s side.

Officer Bunn was trapped between the front right side of the cruiser and the approaching Chevy Tahoe. When the SUV was about 6-8 feet away, Bunn jumped out of the way and in self defense, fired his service revolver at the driver. Bunn was seriously injured when his knee was caught between the left front on the SUV and the right front of the cruiser. Corey Ward was hit in the head by one bullet and died instantly.

Officer Mulkey confirmed that Officer Bunn fired his weapon before being hit by the Chevy Tahoe. The two officers stories were identical to one another. They both believe that their lives were in danger.

Officer Bunn was indicted on December 9, 2005 by a Fulton County grand jury. Bunn is being charged with murder, felony murder, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and violation of oath. Manny Arora of the firm Garland Samuel and Loeb represents Officer Bunn.

LELDF is the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. Our organization’s main focus is to assist law enforcement officers when it is necessary for them to defend actions taken in the line of duty to enforce the law.

The two officers clearly identified themselves as police officers. The two other occupants in the car, Jamal Smith and Rodriguez Brown say that they heard the officers identify themselves, saw their badges and saw the flashing police lights in the cruiser.

Corey Ward had over two ounces of cocaine in his pocket and a large knife was between the driver and passenger seats. There were also seven bags of marijuana discovered in the car along with two stolen cell phones, one from that same parking lot.

It is reasonable to conclude that Ward feared being caught with the cocaine and deliberately chose to go at the officers in an attempt to run them down and escape. There was plenty of room for Ward to drive out of the parking lot and avoid the officers.

A study of the incident showed that the car was traveling 26 MPH 5 seconds before the crash and at 14 MPH one second before the impact with Officer Bunn and the police cruiser. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) made an analysis of the trajectory of the bullets. The GBI determined that the distance between Officer Bunn and the Chevy Tahoe was less than five feet when the shots were fired.

The regulation in effect for use of force in July 2002 for the Atlanta P.D. provided that “an employee shall only use necessary force against another person to effect an arrest, prevent an escape…or defend himself or another from physical assault.”

Officer Bunn was not breaking any rules of the Atlanta P.D. Corey Ward was using the vehicle as a dangerous weapon against the two officers.

Bunn was only trying to defend himself and Officer Mulkey the way he was taught how. He was also trying to protect the public from these three men who could have been dangerous if they had gotten away.

The two officers truly believed that they were in imminent danger and Bunn acted in the best interest of himself and the public. Any officer would not have reacted differently if a suspect was pointing a firearm at them. A Chevy Tahoe at 25 MPH is deadly…….”
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