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April 24, 2008 2:38pm by David Farrar

Tom Scott on form

So true. Original from Stuff.

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roger nome

That’s sick DPF.
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April 24, 2008 2:50pm
toby1845

yes roger, you’re quite correct.

Those nasty righties should stop trying to whip up a frenzy by flogging a dead horse.
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April 24, 2008 3:08pm
David Farrar

I agree it’s sick, but she just won’t sack Williams.
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April 24, 2008 3:11pm
big bruv

Another example of Absolute power corrupting
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April 24, 2008 3:11pm
Gooner

I thought this cartoon was better.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/500814/index.cfm?c_id=500814
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April 24, 2008 3:26pm
Inventory2

roger nome – it’s not DPF’s creation – Tom Scott is the cartoonist in question, a long-time friend of the left. Maybe he has been waiting for the right time for payback after Clark’s attack on cartoonists, in particular the late Minhinnick a while back.
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April 24, 2008 3:27pm
Lee C

Well, I really can’t comment on what is ‘sick’ or not, but anyway… How long will Williams last? He already offered to resign this year, but wasn’t allowed. He’s hinted that Andrew Little might make a worthy successor, and few on the left have demurred. Even Tane is faint in his praise of Mike’s recent activities. . Do you think Williams will last until the election? By the way – look at how many fingers in different pies Mike has.
Talk about shady big business in politics….

!This from Linda Reid http://lindareid.blogspot.com/2008/04/mike-williams-should-resign-from-more.html
As Liberty Scott points out:
“Helen Clark rejected the idea, it is time for Williams to lie down on the sword and go. He has too many roles in too many government agencies that make his position in ALL of them untenable. This is his record:
– Board member of Transit New Zealand;
– Board member of Ontrack (New Zealand Railways Corporation);
– Board member of Genesis Energy;
– Board member of Auckland Regional Transport Authority;
– Director of the Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences Ltd.”Williams’ position on all these boards makes a mockery of good governance. He must go right now.

Says Linda…. I agree.

Lee http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/
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April 24, 2008 3:29pm
BlairM

I’m not quite sure Clark has that power DPF. Doesn’t he have to resign or be impeached somehow?
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April 24, 2008 3:32pm
Lee C

Regardless of whther it’s ‘sick’ or not, a good point is made, and satire when it is good tends to do that. SO when will he go? Will Andrew Little roll Williams. Even Tane is faint in his priase of WIlliams,
And look at all the fingers in pies Mike has. Talk about shady big business interests in politics. Makes the EB look tame.
This from Linda Reid http://lindareid.blogspot.com/2008/04/mike-williams-should-resign-from-more.html
As Liberty Scott points out:
“Helen Clark rejected the idea, it is time for Williams to lie down on the sword and go. He has too many roles in too many government agencies that make his position in ALL of them untenable. This is his record:
– Board member of Transit New Zealand;
– Board member of Ontrack (New Zealand Railways Corporation);
– Board member of Genesis Energy;
– Board member of Auckland Regional Transport Authority;
– Director of the Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences Ltd.”Williams’ position on all these boards makes a mockery of good governance. He must go right now.

http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/
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April 24, 2008 3:32pm
Bevan

That’s sick DPF.

Whats so sick about it? Are the nasty cartoonists upsetting you? Poor baby…

Wonder what you thought of the cartoon with the Nats dressed as gang members with swastika’s on their helmets? Maybe a search of the archives is in order?
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April 24, 2008 3:36pm
Buggerlugs

Given that she’s bound to have a signed resignation letter from him in her top drawer (along with all the other unemployables in her Cabinet and key Party positions), why hasn’t she used it? Money more important than everything, as usual?
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April 24, 2008 3:37pm
sonic

I see right-wing humour remains as innovative and hilarious as ever!

Helen as a schoolteacher caning an unruly pupil, where do they get these original ideas!
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April 24, 2008 3:45pm
big bruv

“Helen as a schoolteacher caning an unruly pupil, where do they get these original ideas”

Perhaps they get them from the member for Dunedin South
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April 24, 2008 3:50pm
Bevan

I see right-wing humour remains as innovative and hilarious as ever!

So Tom Scott is a right winger now?

Wow, I guess you do learn something new every day huh!
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April 24, 2008 3:52pm
virtualmark

Ah Sonic, this is where we look to the wise words of Helen Clark (“Diddums”) and Michael Cullen (“playing with the big boys now”).
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April 24, 2008 3:59pm
gd

The Left posters here are clearly under some post traumatic stress.

However it aint anything to the post traumatic stress they will be suffering after Election 08.

BYW It seems Mikey is coming under some pressure from his fellow directors on the various Gumint and other organisation Boards he is a member of.

Mutterings about behaviour undercoming a member and guilty by association are being heard from said Board rooms.

Will he go quietly or will he be pushed Doesnt matter really After election 08 hes a goner.
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April 24, 2008 4:02pm
helmet

Poor wodger. The silly widdle cartoon wuz too too nasty for him.
Idiot.
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April 24, 2008 4:11pm
Buggerlugs

sonic – two words, DBP, diddums
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April 24, 2008 4:22pm
Craig Ranapia

Nome & Sonic:

Please feel free to address you howls of outrage to Tom Scott, in care of the editor of the Dominion Post. If you don’t get a satisfactory response, you’re also entitled to lay a complaint with the Press Council.
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April 24, 2008 4:24pm
Lee C

So, will he go or not? Will he be rolled by Andrew LIttle – the left are very faint in their praise of Mike WIlliams at the moment and look at all the fingers in pies Williams has – talk about shady big busines back-room dealings in politics! Makes the EB look amateurish…
This from Linda Reid http://lindareid.blogspot.com/2008/04/mike-williams-should-resign-from-more.html
As Liberty Scott points out:
“Helen Clark rejected the idea, it is time for Williams to lie down on the sword and go. He has too many roles in too many government agencies that make his position in ALL of them untenable. This is his record:
– Board member of Transit New Zealand;
– Board member of Ontrack (New Zealand Railways Corporation);
– Board member of Genesis Energy;
– Board member of Auckland Regional Transport Authority;
– Director of the Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences Ltd.”Williams’ position on all these boards makes a mockery of good governance. He must go right now.
http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/

It’s all a bit Hollow?
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April 24, 2008 4:40pm
Redbaiter

“Helen as a schoolteacher caning an unruly pupil, where do they get these original ideas!”

From observing retards like you and Helen Klark and the behaviour of the Labour Party heirarchy.. If there was a part in the cartoon for a simpering little toady, you’d be in it too Sonic.
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April 24, 2008 4:41pm
Craig Ranapia

Anyway, I thought Helen’s disciplinary weapon of choice was the taser. 🙂
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April 24, 2008 4:42pm
Lee C

tahnks – third time today I have tried to post with no success – is it because the post contains links?
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April 24, 2008 4:44pm
Lee C

I’ll try again later………….
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April 24, 2008 4:45pm
sonic

Craig. I just said it was not actually funny, or indeed original.

I leave “howls of outrage” to you, and making silly complaints to your ideological chums.
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April 24, 2008 4:47pm
big bruv

“Wadda ya” mean it was not funny?…it is hysterically funny and extremely topical
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April 24, 2008 4:50pm
sonic

I have to agree that humour is a matter of individual taste big Bruv, but seriously I find that cartoon about as funny as a visit to the dentist.

Of course political humour need not be laugh out loud funny, but that has not even got a spark of originality.

[DPF: Funnily enough Tom Scott is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his cartoons, while Sonic’s well developed sense of humour remains well humourless]
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April 24, 2008 4:59pm
labrator

I laughed. Mike Williams exactly reminds me of a simpering little schoolboy being told off by their teacher so the visual pun is amusing. Additionally the ironic use of corporal punishment somewhat related to the Labour partys recently outlawing of parents using physical punishment is also funny.

If you neither see Mike Williams as dithering or naughty in his leaders eyes and agree with the “anti-smacking” law then you wouldn’t find it funny.
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April 24, 2008 5:07pm
Andrew Bannister

Gooner, that really was sick. Funny, but soooo sick.
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April 24, 2008 5:08pm
dad4justice

test
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April 24, 2008 5:22pm
Frank

sonic: “I have to agree that humour is a matter of individual taste big Bruv, but seriously I find that cartoon about as funny as a visit to the dentist”.

The purpose of a cartoon is to tell the truth. Truth is immediately recognisable and often funny.
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April 24, 2008 5:34pm
peterquixote

In my opinion pictorialist Tom Scott is getting old and weak,
for good picture which has relevance go here :

http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2008/04/american-loyalty-more-important-than.html

Your picture person, Tumeke [not Farra pictures].

.will tomorrow receive the Medallion of Quixote.
I have decided.
The medal itself will be redesigned to be simple and plain, as recognition of talent.
We like to give medals to people
with names, but in the event you do not supply name, we will give it anyway.
You should inform your picture person that just as Tim Selwyn did,
he/she will benefit and courage and resilience forever.
The medallion can never be rescinded and is a symbol of honour
and prestige among all of us.
Even I the formidable Quixote have not this medal.
This will be the sixth medal ever granted ..Spanish Gold.

google peterquixote tomorrow
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April 24, 2008 5:54pm
freethinker

Perhaps the caption – Smartarse is appropriate
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April 24, 2008 5:56pm
Ed Snack

You know Sonic, knowing that you don’t find this funny makes it all the more amusing, really. Now, run along diddums.
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April 24, 2008 6:28pm
sonic

At school we just to play what we called Cadder rules.

When someone from our place made a joke against someone from outside we always pretended it was the funniest thing ever (no matter how lame it really was)

It always baffled outsiders as we would be rolling about the floor at the weakest jibes, it was a reverse wind up.

My excuse, we were 12. Whats yours Ed?
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April 24, 2008 7:26pm
Ross Miller

Like Roger Nome and Sonic I too think the cartoon is beyond the pail … at the very least it contravenes our anti-smaking legislation but more importantly, it reinforces the view that its ok to promote the use of violence no matter how justified (BTW our daughters dog stole the meat from our BBQ tonite and our first thought was to try and reason with him!!!!) … of course we need to legislate against the likes of Tom S and his right wing cabal of fellow travellors. Never mind that inflation is spiralling out of control caused in part by Government fuelled expenditure; never mind that overseas investment in NZ is frightened off by a xenophobic government beholden to Winston First for its very existence; never mind the public hospital sector is in crisis; never mind that the Government respose to all of this is to fiddle while Rome burns ….. let’s back Roger and Sonic to the hilt in addressing the really important issues …… sigh
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April 24, 2008 7:30pm
Rex Widerstrom

By no means Ton Scott’s best work. And while his sympathies lie with what might broadly be termed left wing beliefs Tom’s never refrained from skewering whoever is in power – for that reason he’s someone I hold in high regard.

I recall having dinner with him one evening at the height of the 1995 controversy on NZF’s immigration policy and him admitting that – unlike many of his colleagues in the Gallery at the time – he’d carefully analysed it looking for anything on which a charge of racism could be hung, and found nothing. Therefore, while he produced cartoons which lampooned the policy, not one of them had the nasty overtones of racism or xenophobia which many so-called journalists (and Jim Bolger) were flinging around so carelessly at the time.

In short sonic, roger et al. Tom’s sympathies lie naturally with the Labour Party (and presumably other parties of the left) but he makes an effort to be balanced and fair (while getting away with some comedic licence, it’s true). When he produces a cartoon like this, it shows your political idols have alienated the moderate, intelligent, fair-minded support base and are left only with a few shrill acolytes such as yourselves.

Or, as gd, Red and others might put it – you’re in the shit.
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April 24, 2008 8:04pm
sonic

Whatever Rex, it’s still a cr*p cartoon.

And you can take that to the bank.
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April 24, 2008 8:11pm
big bruv

Sonic

Really, what is wrong with the cartoon? is it because dear leader is portrayed as the liar she is?
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April 24, 2008 8:16pm
Ed Snack

You never really grew up past that either, did you Sonic. Still about 11-12 it would seem. You just don’t have a sense of humour do you, which is a pity, you could use one as you troll the internet, posting links to anti-semitic websites and the like. What’s your excuse ?
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April 24, 2008 8:17pm
Buggerlugs

Ed – anyone that infatuated with Christopher Hitchens definitely has no sense of humour, or taste.
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April 24, 2008 9:18pm
dad4justice

Puts a new meaning in the song hit me with your rhythm stick, hit me slowly hit me quick. It’s a wonder panty slut boy didn’t offer to be whipped instead of rolly Mike.
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April 25, 2008 8:06am
Craig Ranapia

Craig. I just said it was not actually funny, or indeed original.

I leave “howls of outrage” to you, and making silly complaints to your ideological chums.

Dear Sonic:

Perhaps I was a little too subtle for you. You’ve been having a prolonged whinge about how horrible and tasteless the cartoon is — well, cartoons aren’t exempt from Press Council standards. And last time I looked, the Fairfax New Zealand groups is a member of the Press Council.

I don’t actually think ethical standards are “silly”, but your sanctimonious hypocrisy is. You’re entitled to your opinion, but please don’t expect me to take you very seriously when you get into Miss Manners mode.
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April 25, 2008 8:27am
sonic

“you could use one as you troll the internet, posting links to anti-semitic websites ”

Just making stuff up again, ah well the last refuge.

“Perhaps I was a little too subtle for you”

Well that would ben a first Craigy, however perhaps you could point out where I said this cartoon was either “horrible” or “tasteless”

I just said it was not funny, much like you.

Poor Craig, he can only ever win arguments against the imaginary left-winger who lives in his head. Faced with a real person he falls apart.
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April 25, 2008 5:12pm
the deity formerly known as nigel6888

well, another slow anzac day, sonic busy trolling this thread in case someone out there really believes labour isnt corrupt, and phillipjohn accusing everybody of being rapists over on the danish bikini girls thread.

Well I for one am grateful to my ancestors for fighting for my freedom, and I plan to raise a glass to them and remember them. Out of here.
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April 25, 2008 5:26pm
Ed Snack

Making it up Sonic ? Does “Harry’s Place” mean nothing to you. You even eventually, with bad grace, apologized, sort of.
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April 25, 2008 7:52pm
sonic

Ed, if you would care to provide an example of me promoting racism you might have a case, otherwise do us all a favour and deal with the issues rather than just smear.
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April 25, 2008 9:20pm

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